ok so Oduduwa met some Yorubas in Yorubaland........ok so,they had a land,but somehow he became their King...........but they had a land. So their land cannot be a "no man's land" it can only be "some peoples" land with a ruling clan from another land.

italo:


No, brother. I didn't prove that both peoples have a common ancestry. I proved that Oduduwa and all his descendants, including Oranmiyan who was sent to rule Benin...have their ancestry in Benin.

As for the Yorubas whom Oduduwa met in Yorubaland...I don't know their ancestry.

What are the Yoruba names of Oba Akenzua's children?

THE MEANING AND ORIGIN OF EKO IN YORUBA

EKO IN YORUBA IS SHORT FOR EREKO WHICH MEANS FIELD, (EREKO ILE) MEANS ISLAND IN YORUBA.TO CONFIRM THIS YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A PLACE CALLED EREKO IN LAGOS ISLAND.IN ANCIENT TIMES (BEFORE COLONISATION) EREKO IN LAGOS ISLAND WAS A MAJOR MARKET TO WHICH YORUBAS USED TO GO FROM ALL OVER.IT WAS ALSO THE SEAT OF POWER OF PRINCE KOSOKO BEFORE HE ASCENDED THE THRONE TO BECOME OBA OF LAGOS IN 1845.THE POWERFUL PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO (EREKO WAS HIS CHIEFDOM AND BASE) WAS PRACTICALLY THE LORD AND RULER OF LAGOS ISLAND .HE WAS THE MAIN MIDDLEMAN BETWEEN THE YORUBAS AND THE EUROPEAN POWERS ESPECIALLY THE PORTUGESE .THE INTERIOR YORUBA INCLUDING THE IBADAN ARMY DEPENDED HEAVILY ON PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO AND HIS FELLOW EREKO (EKO)TRADERS(LIKE MADAM TINUBU OF TINUBU SQUARE ON LAGOS ISLAND FAME) FOR THE EUROPEAN ARMS, AMMUNITION AND GUN POWDER USED TO DEFEND YORUBALAND WHEN THE YORUBAS HAD THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL AND THE FULANI JIHAD WAS UPON THEM. IN RETURN THEY SOLD HIM THEIR SURPLUS WAR CAPTIVES (SLAVES) .AS PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO'S WEALTH AND POWER GREW THE NAME EREKO (EKO) CAME TO MEAN ALL OF LAGOS AS HE WAS IN CONTROL OF TRADE ALONG THE WHOLE OF THE LAGOS COAST .

IN TODAYS TERMS PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO WAS THE MAFIA DON OF LAGOS.

IF PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO EVEN AS MUCH AS SNEEZED,EVERYBODY IN THE SLAVE TRADE CARTEL FROM LAGOS ISLAND TO THE SOKOTO CALIPHATE IN NORTHERN NIGERIA TILL MARADI IN THE NIGER REPUBLIC WAS GOING DOWN WITH THE FLU LIKE DOMINO'S. QUEEN VICTORIA OF ENGLAND,THE KING OF PORTUGAL THE SPANISH FLEET AND THE GOVERNMENT OF BRAZIL HEARD THE NEWS.

IT WAS PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO AND THE KING OF DAHOMEY THAT SOLD THE ANCESTORS OF THOSE YORUBA SPÈAKING BRAŹILIANS.MANY OF THE GLOVERS HAUSA"S USED BY CAPTAIN GLOVER TO FORM THE FIRST POLICE FORCE IN LAGOS (THE PREDECESSOR OF THE NIGERIAN POLICE AND AR MY) WOULD HAVE ENDED UP AS PART OF KOSOKO AND HIS GANG'S (SLAVE TRADERS) CARGO TO BE SHIPPED OFF TO BRAZIL IF THE BRITISH HAD NOT RUDELY INTERUPTED THEIR BUSINESS.

PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO OWNED LAGOS

IN 1841 WHEN OBA AKITOYE OF LAGOS IN HIS GOD GIVEN WISDOM DARED TO BAN THE SLAVE TRADE, PRINCE KOSOKO OF EREKO AND HIS GANG DEALT WITH THE KING OF LAGOS AND EVICTED HIM FROM THE THRONE IN THE PROCESS.

AFTER HE INSTALLED HIMSELF AS THE OBA OF LAGOS IT WAS KOSOKOS UNRELENTING SLAVE TRADING ACTIVITIES THAT BROUGHT HIM INTO HEAD ON COLLISION WITH THE BRITISH WHO HAD ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN 1807 AND WERE THE MAIN SCOURGE OF THE POTUGESE SLAVE SHIPS THAT PLIED THE COASTS OF LAGOS AND DAHOMEY.EVENTUALLY THIS LEAD TO THE BOMBARDMENT OF LAGOS AND OBA KOSOKO"S DETHRONEMENT BY THE BRITISH IN 1851AND OBA AKITOYE"S REINSTATEMENT AS KING OF LAGOS.
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laudate:


Bros, if it is a Benin name, then kindly tell us the meaning. My friends in school said his name was a Yoruba name. And they translated it at that time. That is all I know.

Sadly, I can't recall the exact meaning now.

I dunno...just like you dunno.

Ovamboland:
ok so Oduduwa met some Yorubas in Yorubaland........ok so,they had a land,but somehow he became their King...........but they had a land. So their land cannot be a "no man's land" it can only be "some peoples" land with a ruling clan from another land.

Did I say Ileife was no man's land...?

...or is it that you just feel like saying irrelevant things?

italo:


This is the same intellectual dishonesty that Yorubas historians are known for.

1. I never said Yorubas had no ties with Benin. You said that because you have to lie to defend the lies you have previously told.

2. You have to misspell and mispronounce "Oshiomhole" for it to fit your Yoruba concoction...and you have to manufacture one single Yoruba that bears that name.

don't mind him.
Oshiomhole isn't even a "bini" name, mr adams who bears d name isn't a bini man. The name is not from the bini langauge, the name is actually an ETSAKO name. In etsako, oshio, osi, osinegba are all words for God, mhole means "to own", if i say me mhole in etsako is mean 'I own it or it belongs to me'. Oshiomhole means "na God get am", "GOD owns him" or "he belongs to God". It is not yoruba, it is not even bini, its etsako, d language of the afemia people where gov adams comes from.

italo:


I dunno...just like you dunno.

it is not yoruba, it is etsako the language spoken by the afemai people of edo state.

They way things are going, Ile-Ife will soon become a no man's land.....and infact all of the south west as the Igbos are responsible for the booming commerce,they have bought vast landed properties and now they know the history of Lagos,Ijebu, and all South western towns or what do you think?

italo:


Did I say Ileife was no man's land...?

...or is it that you just feel like saying irrelevant things?

laudate:


My Yoruba friend just told me that Oshiomhole could also mean "poverty does not know the thief!"

He also said it could mean "poverty has caught the thief," depending on the accent marks, you put on the vowels.

Hehehe.... what a funny language.

that is a totally different thing u are translating.

In yoruba to catch is 'mu', so poverty caught d thieve is osioMUOle.
Yoruba for dont know is omo, so poverty does not knw d thief is osiomo ole.
That is different from oshiomhole.

laudate:


Bros, if it is a Benin name, then kindly tell us the meaning. My friends in school said his name was a Yoruba name. And they translated it at that time. That is all I know.

Sadly, I can't recall the exact meaning now.

ur skul friends were wrong

Seriously,am a yoruba guy wishing the easterners will get their biafra freedom even sooner than some northerners expected.

But this one that Mr.Kanu is bringing up will surely slow down the pace of getting it done.I don't see how lagos or benin is affiliated with the long acclaimed biafra land that they were
fighting for.

Lagos is a made city and in my opinion biafra also have some cities(I.e Onitsha and even Aba) that have potentials to be one the best cities in africa.

I think what the igbos need to prioritize now is how fast they can achieve their long aim/mission and not dragging lagos/benin to the issue because that will really be a huge blow to them.


Since biafrans doesn't want to be part of nigeria, why are they interested in lagos or benin?




IF THE IGBOS ARE STILL ON ASSERTIONS THAT 'LAGOS BELONGS TO NO MAN'.THEN IT WILL BE MORE HARDER FOR THEM BECAUSE MANY ISSUES WILL BE RAISED.



That's my opinion tho.....WISH YOU GUYS BEST OF LUCKS.

Vicotex:

Dont come here and twist histroy.
there is no part benin that is Oduduwa decendant. Rather Oduduway is from benin (a bini prince).

Lagos is no man's LAND

y una no carry una property go there go claim am. ode lasan. the only reasonable kani I know is nwankwo. let's see where that arsehole lead imbeciles like you.

abeg make una help me answer this questions o!
1) if u buy land, and mango tree grow ontop, abeg na who get the tree?
2) Lagos happens to be in the southwest, who get am?
I pity for this kanu followers o! so if una messiah no get sense, why una no just fit tell am fact? well, I guess its bcuz u guys are as dumb as he is SMH

we all knw what became of the biafra u created in the past. why do u guys wanna shed blood? *in patience Jonathan's voice* for those of you who are planning to shear innocent blood, thereis godu oooooooo!

Eko is a Yoruba word from Ereko/Erekosu.
It seems Eko doesn't mean anything in Benin/Bini, because no one has been able to tell us What these are called in Benin/Bini?

War=
Camp=

We are waiting to see how Benin/Bini got "Eko".

Tell us the word you collapsed into Eko, if

E = War
Ko = Camp

Everyday during Yoruba news, you can hear EREKOSU = ISLAND being mentioned in the news.And what you hear first when "Erekosu" is pronounced is "Eko". So tell us how you came by Eko.

No one could answer this question in other threads, I really hope you here have answers.

GENTLENNAJI:
Answer this question from nnamdi kanu if you think lagos is not no man's land.

What is the Yoruba name for Lagos?
Eko is benin word
Tune in to radio Biafra Lagos, its airing now.

italo:


I dunno...just like you dunno.

"EYIGBEMI" means "this one supports me". Reading this page has been educative but a lot of people including you have been arguing over stories transferred through time that was not recorded but told by moonlight tales.This is so sad. We arguing over stories told by transferred down. Look at the bible before Gay relationship was legalized.There wasn't anywhere in there that supported the relationship but now Christian gay lovers can quote bible for you. It means the bible has been corrupted.This is the same way most of the stories our fore fathers told were/is corrupted. I am an Ijebu-man as you the tribalist would say Yoruba but first I am a Nigerian. #proudlynigerian.. Some politicians are sponsoring Kanu like The Boko Haram.Wherever Rebels reside and Chose the Revolt. Civilization is about to Rewind in such a place, ask the Yobeites and Bornuites. Some Places have not recovered from Ojukwu's madness.Meanwhile Ojukwu family is languishing in affluence. I wish you Good luck with Biafra.

Ovamboland:
They way things are going, Ile-Ife will soon become a no man's land.....and infact all of the south west as the Igbos are responsible for the booming commerce,they have bought vast landed properties and now they know the history of Lagos,Ijebu, and all South western towns or what do you think?

So you said.

boxiposhags:
"EYIGBEMI" means "this one supports me". Reading this page has been educative but a lot of people including you have been arguing over stories transferred through time that was not recorded but told by moonlight tales.This is so sad. We arguing over stories told by transferred down. Look at the bible before Gay relationship was legalized.There wasn't anywhere in there that supported the relationship but now Christian gay lovers can quote bible for you. It means the bible has been corrupted.This is the same way most of the stories our fore fathers told were/is corrupted. I am an Ijebu-man as you the tribalist would say Yoruba but first I am a Nigerian. #proudlynigerian.. Some politicians are sponsoring Kanu like The Boko Haram.Wherever Rebels reside and Chose the Revolt. Civilization is about to Rewind in such a place, ask the Yobeites and Bornuites. Some Places have not recovered from Ojukwu's madness.Meanwhile Ojukwu family is languishing. I wish you Good luck with Biafra.

1. Who told you I'm a tribalist? Some of you just type without reading or even thinking.

2. You have no way or proving that Eyigbemi is Oba Akenzua's child's name...or if it is, that the spelling is even correct. Try searching Google for Eyigbemi and tell me if you find anything.

wytecat:
Eko is a Yoruba word from Ereko/Erekosu.
It seems Eko doesn't mean anything in Benin/Bini, because no one has been able to tell us What these are called in Benin/Bini?

War=
Camp=

We are waiting to see how Benin/Bini got "Eko".

Tell us the word you collapsed into Eko, if

E = War
Ko = Camp

Everyday during Yoruba news, you can hear EREKOSU = ISLAND being mentioned in the news.And what you hear first when "Erekosu" is pronounced is "Eko". So tell us how you came by Eko.

No one could answer this question in other threads, I really hope you here have answers.

They have started lying again.

The same they said Oduduwa is from Mecca, Egypt, heaven, from Lamurudu, from Okanbi etc just to deny that he was from Bini.

Now first they said "Eko" was "Oko" meaning "farm." Suddenly it means "Ereko" and "Erekosu."

Stop lying. Even the Lagos State website claims "Eko - war camp" or "Oko - farm."

I guess you can manufacture Yoruba meanings for Idumota, Idumagbo, Eletu Odibo.

Go ahead. You go lie tire!

Ubenedictus:
don't mind him.
Oshiomhole isn't even a "bini" name, mr adams who bears d name isn't a bini man. The name is not from the bini langauge, the name is actually an ETSAKO name. In etsako, oshio, osi, osinegba are all words for God, mhole means "to own", if i say me mhole in etsako is mean 'I own it or it belongs to me'. Oshiomhole means "na God get am", "GOD owns him" or "he belongs to God". It is not yoruba, it is not even bini, its etsako, d language of the afemia people where gov adams comes from.

Thank you.

glassjar1:


YORUBA TRANSLATION IN IGBO OBA SLAVES

you mean the oba we feed?

You guys need to bury yourselves cos you make claims you can't back up.

We Yoruba have "Eko" in every word relating to Lagos, be it "bush strip, everglades, or island. What do you have to suggest that you have EKO as a word, NOTHING! I asked again what these words are in Bini, "Camp" and "War" you can't say cos they can't spell or mean Eko whichever way you put them. Btw, "ok" in Ereko is "oko" get it.

Next time, come with something convincing if you want to steal from others cos your case would be face down now if you were to be in ICC. Yoruba have every name Eko sounding for Eko, you have NOTHING again!

You guys are just lucky that my people have some MUMU traits that make others want to lay claim to the clothes on their backs.

italo:


They have started lying again.

The same they said Oduduwa is from Mecca, Egypt, heaven, from Lamurudu, from Okanbi etc just to deny that he was from Bini.

Now first they said "Eko" was "Oko" meaning "farm." Suddenly it means "Ereko" and "Erekosu."

Stop lying. Even the Lagos State website claims "Eko - war camp" or "Oko - farm."

I guess you can manufacture Yoruba meanings for Idumota, Idumagbo, Eletu Odibo.

Go ahead. You go lie tire!

wytecat:
You guys need to bury yourselves cos you make claims you can't back up.

We Yoruba have "Eko" in every word relating to Lagos, be it "bush strip, everglades, or island. What do you have to suggest that you have EKO as a word, NOTHING! I asked again what these words are in Bini, "Camp" and "War" you can't say cos they can't spell or mean Eko whichever way you put them. Btw, "ok" in Ereko is "oko" get it.

Next time, come with something convincing if you want to steal from others cos your case would be face down now if you were to be in ICC. Yoruba have every name Eko sounding for Eko, you have NOTHING again!

You guys are just lucky that my people have some MUMU traits that make others want to lay claim to the clothes on their backs.

Even the Lagos State Govt calls you a liar so I don't need to argue with you.

Very soon you will lie that Prince Ado of Bini did not conquer and colonize lagos...and that idumagbo, Idumota, Eletu Odibo are Yoruba names.

Afterall, Oduduwa, your god has five contradictory origins.

Omo-ale means bastard in English.

Does that mean we should start to say that omo means child And Ale means concubine so omo ale is not bastard?

Olodo.

Ask anyone you know who went to University of Ekosodin Village.

Hmm! It's clear to be now that Oshiomole is a Yoruba word. If it had meant other thing other than your explanation below, I wouldn't be sure or say anything. But this

When you hear the name "Oshiomole" the first things that will come to your mind are these as Yoruba

Osho = Wizard which can mean "Genius"

Oshi = right hand/confidant of a Deity.

Imole/Irumole = Deity

Now, whichever way you put it, Deity were gods back in the day, and they owned their subjects. Also, factor in how other cultures around them affected the pronunciation and spelling. The heck! Even Ilaje write differently from most Yoruba, and have NOT for once denied their ancestry, or have they?

Ubenedictus:
don't mind him.
Oshiomhole isn't even a "bini" name, mr adams who bears d name isn't a bini man. The name is not from the bini langauge, the name is actually an ETSAKO name. In etsako, oshio, osi, osinegba are all words for God, mhole means "to own", if i say me mhole in etsako is mean 'I own it or it belongs to me'. Oshiomhole means "na God get am", "GOD owns him" or "he belongs to God". It is not yoruba, it is not even bini, its etsako, d language of the afemia people where gov adams comes from.

italo:


Which words?

Which names?

Which incantations?

Since you know so much about Bini kingdom, your ignorance of their use of yoruba words in their incantations and bearing of yoruba names can not be excused.

What an easy way out Only people who have nothing to say or back up their claims call other liars. Back up your claims and stop being a nuisance.

Lagos state government doesn't put out trash, it's one of the fruits of your inferiority complex. How many false stories do you never do well post around only for them to turn out to be false.
There are many Yoruba with different accounts of how they got to be where they are today Most Yoruba don't even know they are cos we were all known by our different dialects first.

Bini never conquered anything, it's all myth, or what do you see today to suggest that they ever conquered even a poultry farm? The rumour probably started from one drunk Ogiso who was a Joseph the dreamer for a day.

All those area mean ANNEXES.

Ido = settlement

Idumota = Ido Imota
Idumagbo = Ido Imagbo
Eletu = Eletu

Worry about your origin, every Yoruba known where they came from.

Omo Ale is exactly what it says and more, you have to be Yoruba to know more, heck, you have to really understand Yoruba to know that, even we young Yoruba don't really understand deep Yoruba like our elders do, let alone some strangers who happen to hear and speak broken Yoruba.

The bottom line is you don't have Eko meaning in any language except Yoruba.

italo:


Even the Lagos State Govt calls you a liar so I don't need to argue with you.

Very soon you will lie that Prince Ado of Bini did not conquer and colonize lagos...and that idumagbo, Idumota, Eletu Odibo are Yoruba names.

Afterall, Oduduwa, your god has five contradictory origins.

Omo-ale means bastard in English.

Does that mean we should start to say that omo means child And Ale means concubine so omo ale is not bastard?

Olodo.

Ask anyone you know who went to University of Ekosodin Village.

otr1:

Since you know so much about Bini kingdom, your ignorance of their use of yoruba words in their incantations and bearing of yoruba names can not be excused.

Which names?

Which words?

Which incantations?

Vicotex:

Dont come here and twist histroy.
there is no part benin that is Oduduwa decendant. Rather Oduduway is from benin (a bini prince).

Lagos is no man's LAND

LOL... how did the Binis get the name OBA for their king? You guys are damn shameful...

ArodewilliamsT:


That you breed like rats and father million of bastards all over the place does not give you the right to rewrite Bini history. Bini colonized yorubas not the other way round.

Hear your miserable self. Do you think you sound intelligent with this rubbish you post right there?
So it's my father that sired those Binis bearing Bose, Temi, Ayo, Toyin...etc?
Bini colonized the Yorubas so much that the title of their King is a proper yoruba noun?
It is obvious that the Biniss copied from the Yorubas because the morphemes of the word, O (the one) and ba (rules) that make up the their title "Oba", are non-existent among them.
No beautifully concocted stories will change the facts.

wytecat:
What an easy way out Only people who have nothing to say or back up their claims call other liars. Back up your claims and stop being a nuisance.

Lagos state government doesn't put out trash, it's one of the fruits of your inferiority complex. How many false stories do you never do well post around only for them to turn out to be false.
There are many Yoruba with different accounts of how they got to be where they are today Most Yoruba don't even know they are cos we were all known by our different dialects first.

Bini never conquered anything, it's all myth, or what do you see today to suggest that they ever conquered even a poultry farm? The rumour probably started from one drunk Ogiso who was a Joseph the dreamer for a day.

All those area mean ANNEXES.

Ido = settlement

Idumota = Ido Imota
Idumagbo = Ido Imagbo
Eletu = Eletu

Worry about your origin, every Yoruba known where they came from.

Omo Ale is exactly what it says and more, you have to be Yoruba to know more, heck, you have to really understand Yoruba to know that, even we young Yoruba don't really understand deep Yoruba like our elders do, let alone some strangers who happen to hear and speak broken Yoruba.

The bottom line is you don't have Eko meaning in any language except Yoruba.

Shut up. Either you listen to the Lagos State Govt...or you take up your fight with them.

Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm" or Eko ("war camp", by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

Wrong comparison.

Whites have upper hand in the US and treat Blacks as second class citizens.

In Nigeria Yoruba have upper hand, and are everything Ibos want to be. Ibos are 4th class citizens in Nigeria.

Blacks pick on whites in America everyday and blame all their problems on them just as you are doing to Yoruba.

Can you see why he said you are jealous? Henheen!

new2020:


Igbos jealous yorubas? LOL....for what? Is akin to whites to jealous blacks.lol

2sex:
LOL... how did the Binis get the name OBA for their king? You guys are damn shameful...

They probably got it from Oranmiyan who was the son of Ekaladerhan who you call Oduduwa and falsely claim fell from heaven, trekked from Mecca, trekked from Egypt, born by Lamurudu etc.

Lies! Oduduwa was a Bini Prince who was banished. He trekked to Ileife and single handedly subdued your people and ruled them and was their god.