Insert QuoteI am not one to castigate Men of God- being a good christian.
But I must say this story does more harm than good for the revered Pastor Adeboye, it has Damage Control written all over it.
Coming out now to say the plane was bought by members of his church under the stated business plan leaves room for too much speculation.

I would have preferred the pastor maintained his Golden Silence on the issue, and like all controversies in Nigeria it would have simply died a natural death in a matter of weeks - leaving his integrity Kanpe!.

Kobojunkie:

The Pastor did not write the article, THISDAY did!

onye_ngbu:

Im sure the pastor did not write the article but the church officials shouldnt have allowed it.

They knew it was going to be written afterall they are the ones who provided Thisday with the accurate information of the plane bargain.

Kobojunkie:

@Binna,[b] if you say I SAID FOR SURE that the money was private money, [/b]then you are allowed to believe as you chose. At this point, I really see where this is going and understand now that no matter what I write, you will always come back with the same and pick out lines as you want. As for the bible, I suggest you pick up the book yourself to read. As for the pastor, you, as well as anyone else is allowed at the end of the day, to believe of him what you will. I have already pointed out earlier that I am also guilty of trying hard to find his faults and nail him for it, and so far, I am still working on it but making sure that even that judgmental spirit is brought subject to God at the end of the day for me. I have learnt not to argue religion with other judgmental Nigerian Christians because 9 times out of 10, it yields nothing. So you go ahead and hold the church to whatever rule you want. Have a nice life with that ! I on the other hand choose to focus on other priorities for me.

Falciparum:

When i first registered ere it was fun, I was kept fully updated on the issues concerning my dear country. But now i'm ashamed to even quote this site to people. I know its a forum in which we express our minds in a faceless society. But decency should not evade us since we have no faces. I have been on different forums on diff sites and they aren't half as bad as this. Strict rules need to be put in place to stop defaming other people. There are more sensible and intelligent ways of discussing issues. My heart bleeds cause the citizens are just as wicked as tiger leaders in their hearts. I pray everyday for the Nation and the people in it that we don't use our hands to destroy what others have managed to put together. Nigeria

Dr. Lorenz:

I think we should focus on more news that can better our life because no matter how much we deliberate on the issue, the truth remains that the church did not steal our money to buy the Jet.

Kobojunkie:

@MrMcrackles, I think the onus is on you to provide proof to show that is not the case!

See, the rule is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. I mean sure paranoid minds like to switch it around to say something like GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!!!

OMO IBO:

if you are saying negative things about a man of God, you are own your own.

all im after is how did someone arrive at this conclusion:
Well, regardless of whether names were withheld or not, be it church money that was spent or money put together by the 5 noted investors( possibly non-public officers), it is still private money. I mean you do know that a non-profit business is not PUBLIC business.

now, to be precise i am paying particular attention to the text in blue.

how is kobojunkie sure that the money is private money? you people defending kobojunkie should go through the thread before you spew jargon here. she has repeatedly failed to tell us how she arrived at that the text in blue and that is my wahala.

I am christian as well but when i see something that im not too sure about, i will point it out.

Good man

No concrete proof yet they conclude it is private money!

If we see something that is not morally and ethically right, we shouldnt defend it

I am an adult and i dont think the purchase is Godly and sensible!

Kobojunkie:

I happen to have a lawyer in the house @McCrackles. ( John Marshalls lawyer to be precise). The rule is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. No matter what our individual suspicions maybe, unless we can PROVE  the money did not come from the church’s coffers as you rightly pointed out, the church is ASSUMMED innocent. Lol
Same with the anonymous men who are said to have actually made the purchase, unless we have solid proof to show that the money was stolen, they are  ASSUMED innocent until proven guilty.

So @McCrackles, unless I have concrete proof it is not their money, I cannot STATE that it is not. If you want to debate it, we can step downtown and have a lawyer teach you how it works! Roflmao!!!

Dr. Lorenz:

@Omo Ibo
And how does it concern u if the money came from church coffers? Is your own money there?

@ Mr. Crackles
It seems you're crackling. The same goes for you. The ish here is not about private money. Then again, is it public money? If it's not private money, then it should be public money and when it's public money how does that relate to the Church? 'They say'. Who says? This Day or RCCG?

Mowire:

But Kobojunkie you dey try o!
See all the time and effort you put in to make stone hearted fellows like biina think straight [/b]on this issue. Don't you know how to just give up on such people and let them wallow in their own [b]ill thoughts.

Boy! you are trying! 3 pages of posts.

Dr. Lorenz:

@Omo Ibo
And how does it concern u if the money came from church coffers? Is your own money there?

@ Mr. Crackles
It seems you're crackling. The same goes for you. The ish here is not about private money. Then again, is it public money? If it's not private money, then it should be public money and when it's public money how does that relate to the Church? 'They say'. Who says? This Day or RCCG?

So why did i ask for proof from the Lorenzo that said they didnt steal money to buy the jet?

I dont think you understood where i am coming from, right from the start!

As it stands, i dont know the nitty gritty so i wont rule out the fact that it could have been from stolen funds (from Aso Rock and the Church or whatever)

OR

It could have been an innocent donation

OR

Daddy GO GO stole the church's money

OR

Whatever

MY CONCLUSION IS UNTIL I SEE ANY CONVINCING EVIDENCE, I WILL CONTINUE TO ALIGN MYSELF IN OPPOSITION TO THE SOURCE OF THE MONEY!