Truckpusher:
No Rivers man nor Niger Deltan is against the agitation for a separate state by the Igbos but distorting historical facts and changing names of places and cities to sooth your movement is an insult taken too far - I think at this point our Igbo neighbors really need to sit down, think thoroughly what they want and how they wish to achieve it and if any alliance is needed , it should be solely based on mutual agreement and not some propaganda that smacks of insults that won't go down well with the minority tribes of the Niger Delta.


This same mistake was made in 1967 and it would be stupidity on anyone's part to make the same political mistake after more than 40 years.

Truckpusher:
On the highlighted I beg to disagree in as much as I have opined several times that we share a lot in common culturally but let me make it very clear that the Ogba Egbema Ndoni people of Rivers Sate are not Igbos but a distinctive tribe with their own distinctive culture and if we follow your line of argument we should be saying that Hausa,Fulani and Kanuris are all Arabs and possibly Fulanis.

I am not against self determination of any kind from any part of the country but deliberately spreading falsehood while masking it with all sorts cheap propaganda that smacks of land grabbing and regional annexation is another form of what is happening in Nigeria where the rest of the states wants the Igbos to remain despite their kick against the oppressive system of the Nigerian state.

Your deliberate distortion of historical facts to sooth your agenda will only alarm these people that you want to force into your struggle and there lies your downfall.

Truckpusher:
Your ugba brain has finally opened up to quote me directly?

You need evidence of acts that was orchestrated and perpetrated by your kin and kith ? I think you really know where to find your answer or better still you already know the truth.

My conscience can not be subjected to the existence any god,God or deity or whatever - You should have figured that one out by now.

Eastlink:
I'm sorry Truck pusher, but I beg to disagree with you. I speak for my people and them alone. Everyone in Rivers state see my people from ONELGA as Igbos. I could remember when then Governor Peter Odili aspired to represent Rivers state in the primaries for PDP's presidential ticket. He announced himself as a Riversman only to be called out by the likes of Edwin Clark and other Ijaw politicians as an Igboman representing the Igbos and not Rivers. That among many comments was responsible for what pulled him down during that period. Many of my kinsmen accepted that insult in good faith and moved on. We know who we are, even if we find ourselves in Rivers. And when the time comes we would gladly join our Igbo brothers in their new country as one people.

Truckpusher:
How can you build an empire when you never had a leadership?

You think empires are built through the back-doors and cunningly creeping up to your quarry, no way - Empires are built with steel,fire,and blood.

You didn't build an empire because you woke up late - You can build one now in harmony and mutual respect but certainly not by lies ,propaganda and the zeal to subjugate through the backdoor - That era is gone ,every man wants a name for himself and nobody is ready to play the second fiddle to another nation,people and tongue.

pazienza:



Is that why Ogba invited Oba of Bini, and your Ezes was rolling on the floor for Oba Bini, and ended up taken up the title "Oba" in place of your traditional "Eze".
Is it because Ogba never had an empire? Is that while you are now plaqued with Bini nferiority complex?

When is your Oba inviting Bini tutors to teach you Bini language? Don't you think it's time you stopped using your current Igbo sounding language and names?

When is your slow Oba changing his Igbo sounding name, Chukwumela to a Bini sounding ones? I think Akenzua will be a good name for him.

Azhi gbakwa! Bunch of inferiority complex plaqued mofos

obailala:
Please stop mentioning the great Ojukwu's name in the same sentence as the psycopath... That's an insult!

atlwireles:
By the way great protest, we need more like this

Truckpusher:
Keep repeating the same shiit - I already educated you on one of my last replies.

We will go for Biafra when our interests are well protected and we would not be hounded into another blind unity under any circumstances - Enough is enough.

pazienza:
[b] 1. The Igbo ran an organized democratic system of government where powers were vested on the people and /or their representatives as represented by age grade leaders,women leaders,cult leaders, titled men , priests of deities, the aged ones,etc. Before the Greeks knew of Democracy, before the savage caucasians knew of Democracy, the Igbos had already perfected it.

It is rather funny for someone to consider monarchical system of government, superior to Democracy/ republican system of government. Monarchy as a matter of fact represents a step lower in evolution of leadership and social organization, the exact reason much of the present developed world don't use them any longer or simply leave them as ceremonial vestiges.



2. Most Igbo societies were not built for conquest of neighboring groups and expansionism both of which are traits of savages and the greedy. Of course there were little fights between Igbo groups and their neighbours, but they were mostly for scarce resources and other minor issues and not for conquest and expansionism.

This to me, is a reflection of the Igbo believe in "Bili kam bili"( live and let's live), a trait not found in savage groups who were/are driven by primitive instincts of conquest and subjugation of neighboring groups.



3. The Igbo Economy was built to favour the strong and hardworking, the Igbo man was not hindered by beraucracy or useless monarchies, he had his fate in his hands, he was the king of his destiny and can aspire to soar as high as his hardworking can take him. The Igbo ancestors truly prepared the Igbo for the economic realities of the modern world. [/b]

On your empire rubbish, this was a reply I gave to your Yoruba co travellers months ago on that subject.

Truckpusher:

You're right.

The protest was a good one but the lies should be discarded because next time na flogging we go flog dem enter mile 1 market.

missgray:
You get time sha.Their eyes has always been on that city.

Am beginning to think there is a hidden diamond mine in that city we don't know about. Pls find it b4 they do

atlwireles:


I don't even waste my time replying them anymore. I just activate my ignore button, knowing most here on NL are impostors just spreading their hate and fear with a misinformation campaign.

Deltagiant:


@ the bolded, I see your attempt to show case how Ikwerre is/was a different language from Igbo. Even a long time Hausa or yoruba resident in Asaba or Enugu who speaks some Igbo would readily understand you.

'Dieli badu
Iktupuga nde ki onu' - is equal to Di ali madu, itupugara nde ka onu'.

I always enjoy seeing you and HopeAtHand entertain Nairalanders with your "ikwerre" comedy
Feast on boys!

Truckpusher:
I didn't deny the fact that I'm culturally affiliated to the Igbos and pro Biafra and would want to be with them than to remain with any other ethnic group in this false unity, because we share a lot in common and that doesn't also justify the bastardization of my identity as well.got it?

Eastlink:
Witty I must say! The same way an Ikwerreman cannot hide secret from an Igboman, its the same way an Igboman cannot do the same.

Truckpusher:
A democratic system without a figure head in an ancient civilization would falter and fall like pack of cards in the face of any serious threat be it famine ,war or plague - That was not an empire my friend ,it's a primitive harmonious living within a people that upholds one and the same culture over a long period of time over a particular place.

Come for lectures and stop mistaken gladiators for wrestling bouts in the village square.

pazienza:


And yet Igbo societies offered more opposition of colonialism than the mushroom empire called Bini empire you are suffering hard to link with.

Igbo ukwu and Nri arts were also more sophisticated than any your mushroom empires that crumbled easily before the Caucasians.

What is civilization without contribution to human knowledge base? What did your mushroom empires contributed to human knowledge base? You call a bunch of black savages running around the bushes of tropical west Africa looking for weaker African groups to subjugate empire and civilization?

I now see and know why your inferiority plaqued Eze Ogba will be rolling before Oba Bini and even went ahead to change the title of his throne from Eze to Oba, he simply was incapable of independent thought process.

pazienza:

When a well-packaged web of lies has
been sold gradually to the masses over
generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous
and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~

Truckpusher:
Lmao. bad girl.

They sure do have an agenda even as the moderate ones would always be moderate, but I'm afraid of these ones that stinks of expansionist tendencies miles away.

They are like the Islamic fundamentalists - You nip it from the bud.

You're a blabbering, senseless and frustrated Igbo scum and I don't reply such (ask arodetsolaye) but since you asked...

athaboi:
look @ how dumb u are, how do u think that a state under nigeria will come out to support such separation movement? Even the eastern states did not open the govt house gate for them. U are jst foolish to think state govt wld hv come out openly to support them. Go and sleep because u lack truth and am not suprise because propaganda is wat u guys are knw for. Never quote me back because i dont hv ur time

Shymm3x:


I hear that. As a guy who's also revolutionary minded and against every colonial and slavery institution/entity that has kept black folks in perpetual servitude and darkness, I'm a fan of the Biafran ideology. Albeit I don't like their approach.

They ought to probably copy how Radio Free Europe galvanised an axis in continental Europe - against the Soviet Union, during the Cold War. on how to run propaganda. Not by alienating everyone. They also need thorough planning cos those who hold the ace to their freedom aren't part of the five Igbo States. Freedom is divine and every human being is entitled to it. They can't achieve freedom by being suicidal.


Off topic a bit======

Anyway, how come all the folks I'm seeing protesting are the dark-skinned Igbos? Where are the light-skinned ones? If they end up killing all the dark skinned ones now, who will fight the war when it kicks off? We all know light skinned folks are natural soft...putting dark skinned nyggahs out there for target practice for AK47 is a NO NO lool.

missgray:
Honestly, am quite amazed at the work you are doing here. These people wouldn't relent when it comes to that city. We need more of you here to shut them up. Meanwhile keep on doing the good work

Truckpusher:
They had no King so who would be used as a scapegoat? To send a message to the entire Kingdom ,who would you execute to show them how brutal you're willing to go to make every man fall into line?

That's the way it is....

Which great and respected man will they subjugate to send cold shivers into the spine of all the men in the society and make them cower.?

Truckpusher:
Gerarahia here

you gimme work?

pazienza:


Lol,of what use is an empire that couldn't safe it's citizens from external powers, of what use is a king that couldn't guarantee freedom to his subjects mushroom power whose power started and ended in harassing surrounding undefended African groups. An empire that made no single contribution to human population?

Lol! Your Oba Ogba is a disgrace, he should hide his head in shame. Changing his title from Eze to Oba, if a king is this inferiority complex plaqued, I can only imagine what the subjects will be like.