BlackPencil:
Yesterday, it was Nkiru and Obi, Ahmed and Seun celebrated and screamed 'kill em all'. Today, it's ahmed. Tomorrow e fit b Seun.
Nigeria is a cesspit

today it will be you sonofabitch

Something tells me, we haven't seen the end of this.

Celebrating the birth of the prophet ?
Did the prophet or his companions did it?
They just have to stop this celebration of a thing because its an innovated tin.
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Every human life is so precious and islam is against violence and killing of innocent lives,
And i hope this wont lead to something else from both ends.
Rip to those who lost thier lives in innocent of this brutal event.

Come ooh, wat is happenin to Nigeria Military these days? so much innocent blood in their hands, senseless killings everywhere. Were they not trained? which kind yeye role of engagemnt??

Having read through both version of the story, I'll porch my tent with the NA.

I once saw this Shiite sect/group in a gathering in Zaria, any sensible have to be afraid of them. numbering in thousands along just b4 PZ in their all black attire and their faces covered like "egungun calaba". road was demarcated with burning tires and there was a little queue.

it cannot be ruled out that some element within the group might take advantage of that to attack the COAS. in such a crowded scene it won't be out of point for the military to protect their Oga @ d top.

This group has not really been in the news for violence and often times,they are found to be at the receiving end of some abuse nay overzealousness.

Yet, one wonders why they've always had runnings with just about every government that comes into power.

It's difficult for one outside their sphere of influence to understand their mission, motive, plight and desires.

The Nigerian Army has also been known to be sometimes overzealous, unprofessional and tactless.

I am simply hoping that for the sake of peace and humanity a proper investigation is carried out by those in higher authority to understand and manage whatever has transpired.

Rest in peace to those who died, especially if they were simply carrying out their religious duties in a civil manner. [/b][/quote]

The honest truth still remains that islam has been noted to be a violent and terrible religion ...they even kill thier own. I used to think that amongst thieves there used to be code if honour but in islam I do not think there is any thing honor unless you talk about honor killing where by a father kills the kid for converting to some religion or not marrying a particular spouse. This is done in Pakistan and Islamabad

But back to your topic ... Nigeria Muslim practise a form of islam called wahabism and they are the most violent Muslim ever known to mankind. It is the type they also practise in Saudi and these set of Muslim virtually take no prisoner and their level of indoctrination second to non. Inshort their indoctrination is akin to opium . if you rrmemebr Karl Max (that Jew) father of socialism ...he said that religion is the opium if people and opium is what they plant in Afghanistan. It is the crop that is used to make cocaine and other high things and you see Afghan is a Muslim country and these guys in North loves snuffing .

Forgive me for bringing Oga karl here because from the way the thing goes goes ....an average Muslim has been made to hate Jews and calling Karl here is am aberration but one thing is this

From my own analysis the Nigerian army seems to be filled with wahabism and these are like 70% of Nigerian population and they will not find it funny for any set of islam getting upper hand ask Shiite group or zazaky or whatever

The wars in Syria today is to some exteny fought on denomination ground one wahab which the HQ is Saudi and Shiite or other set of islam which the HQ is in Iran

The bottom line is that islam is just terrible, despicable and incorrigible. Take it or leave it.

I am off to church


Happy Christmas in advance ...we must and will celebrate this Christmas in peace .no amount of their bombing can make us give up on peace and above all Christianity


Christianity is the light and will always win . the way the Christian Europe has assembled to bomb these islamist to submission in middle East that is the way light will win


We can sing Noel and jingle bells in peace. My kids can visit Santa Claus .


Happy new year in advance

The honest truth still remains that islam has been noted to be a violent and terrible religion ...they even kill thier own. I used to think that amongst thieves there used to be code if honour but in islam I do not think there is any thing honor unless you talk about honor killing where by a father kills the kid for converting to some religion or not marrying a particular spouse. This is done in Pakistan and Islamabad

But back to your topic ... Nigeria Muslim practise a form of islam called wahabism and they are the most violent Muslim ever known to mankind. It is the type they also practise in Saudi and these set of Muslim virtually take no prisoner and their level of indoctrination second to non. Inshort their indoctrination is akin to opium . if you rrmemebr Karl Max (that Jew) father of socialism ...he said that religion is the opium if people and opium is what they plant in Afghanistan. It is the crop that is used to make cocaine and other high things and you see Afghan is a Muslim country and these guys in North loves snuffing .

Forgive me for bringing Oga karl here because from the way the thing goes goes ....an average Muslim has been made to hate Jews and calling Karl here is am aberration but one thing is this

From my own analysis the Nigerian army seems to be filled with wahabism and these are like 70% of Nigerian population and they will not find it funny for any set of islam getting upper hand ask Shiite group or zazaky or whatever

The wars in Syria today is to some exteny fought on denomination ground one wahab which the HQ is Saudi and Shiite or other set of islam which the HQ is in Iran

The bottom line is that islam is just terrible, despicable and incorrigible. Take it or leave it.

I am off to church


Happy Christmas in advance ...we must and will celebrate this Christmas in peace .no amount of their bombing can make us give up on peace and above all Christianity


Christianity is the light and will always win . the way the Christian Europe has assembled to bomb these islamist to submission in middle East that is the way light will win


We can sing Noel and jingle bells in peace. My kids can visit Santa Claus .


Happy new year in advance

when the same military opened fire on innocent Biafra Protestants, you people here said the biafrans were armed and also attacked them, now are you doubting the Shiites were armed and also attacked the toothless military? the BH are having a field day everywhere they go but the NA us busy fighting unarmed citizens, crushing the bones handed over to them to protect. what a country

This is what I deduced from the article:
1. It's a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time (for both sides) . The protocol unit of The Chief of Army Staff should or seems to know forehand that the Shiitees will be having such an event, but found it not worthy to change the itinerary of the COAS. The Islamic movement on its side were unfortunate to have their ritual (which is as old as time) coincide with the visit of the COAS.

2. The Movement MAY NOT have deliberately wanted to attack the COAS convoy, but rather were irked by the disruption his convoy was causing to their "Rites of passage" . But then, they should have also been wise enough to understand that the said convoy was that of Chief of Army Staff and not that of former President Goodluck Jonathan which even beggars, children etc on the streets can pelt with what ever they wish and go scot free .

3. Finally, I thank God that the COAS is a fellow Muslim and not Christian because they would have viewed it from another perspective (if you know what I mean).

In conclusion, BokoHaram just had a bouncing baby boy

iamhorlufemi:


there can never be peace in a country where Muslims and Christians have 50%-50% population.

Bros,dis ur statement worries me..wat exactly does the future holds?

One religion says it is of peace.....the other doesn't av extremists

And they still cant condone each other?

Which way naija?

phemierowl:

Its a known fact in zaria that these people do carry gun and weapon, just like their counterpart in okene kogi state, dey do brandish gun in broad day light during friday prayer around the mosque, its a truth you might not be able to swallow, islam knows nothing about peace

check my previous posts and see the level of my objectivity on this issue, I was and will never be in support of the Shiite Muslims action. was only blaming NA for their un-professionalism in handling the situation. normally, I don't meddle in anything religious on this forum, especially with the ever increasing number of religious bigots on here.

sir, if your little brother happened to steal a crow and was caught in the act, does that mean the whole phemierowl family is a thief? or better still, does that make every Christian a thief? the kidnappings by the then militants, does that make everyone from that region a kidnapper? where they pronounced ' Christian terrorists?' even tho we know majority are christians.

m sure you have Muslims around you, those you smile with every day. if you do and still come here to attack their religion, then I call you a hypocrite, one worse than your so called 'potential terrorist'

Think outside the box bro, don't get head-blocked by informations fed to you based on hatred. we are learned so as not to get manipulated..

peace be unto you.

So who do we blive nw?
And what's these Shiites ideology sef? What's wt trekking and walking about and celebrating Malud Nabiyy by trekking, this just reeks of bid'ah (innovation into religion).
Anyway the Nigerian army shld reduce their trigger happy nature lest they birth another BH

Onyocha:
Soldiers Attack at Husainiyyah: Seven killed

Saturday, 12 December 2015 20:19

Following the brutal attack by the Nigerian Soldiers on Husainiyyah Baqiyyatullah Zaria on Saturday the 12th of Dec 2015 the number of people killed has risen to seven (7) while 11 are seriously injured at various degree. The figure of the dead represents those in the possession of the Movement as the fate of those taken away by the Soldiers after they were shot is not known.

As at the time of this report, there is no acces to the Husainiyyah as all roads leading to it have been blocked by Nigerian soldiers; they also besieged the building while many brothers and sisters were locked inside.

In a move to cover up its attrocities, the Military, through its spokeman, said the convoy of Lt Gen Yusuf Burutai the Chief of Army Staff was attacked by the Muslims brothers and Sisters using arms. While in reality, the armless Muslims have gathered at Husainiyyah Baqiyatllah, Zaria for flag changing ceremony for the fall of the month of Rabiul Auwal- the birth month of the holy Prophet(SAWA). In almost 37 years of its activities, the islamic Movement in Nigeria has never attack anybody- be it soldiers, police, individual or group.

http://www.islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2229:soldiers-attack-at-husainiyyah-seven-killed&catid=41:frontpage

Its simple!

LET THE MILITARY SHOW VIDEO EVIDENCE, OF THE SHIITE ATTACKING THE MILITARY
.....That the military killed some of the Shiite (justly or not), is not in doubt so we wont even need a video evidence of that.

Things have gotten to a stage where we cant just swallow ANYTHING said by any Group, including the military,


Lastpage!


NB: As for that Politics section @MOD who does not always like to see my Post... Oya, ban me AGAIN o, food don done for U.
Just that you know, l have researched and identified you in person, in real life.

I hope biafra agitators are reading!
The army does not condole any threat to lives and property, so that when they start on your useless protest you wont scream genocide
this is a muslim group been dealth with in zaria now o!
A word is enuff for the person wey wan live

i think some of you are saying what you think, not what you no, becaus some of you dont have information. Pls let the soldiers do their work, this people have information and thy work with it.

At noon today, armed soldiers were seen in the precincts of Hussainiyyah Baqiyyatullah, Zaria, where members of the Islamic Movement were to carry out the hoisting of flag to usher in the new month of Maulud, the birth of the Holy Prophet of Islam.
Similar occasion was previously carried out on the same spot with free traffic flow under the supervision of the Movement’s traffic warders.
When some brothers met the soldiers to understand their mission of the soldiers was, they took position and opened fire indiscriminately, killed many and took away seven the casualty to an unknown location.

If the soldiers were not interfering with your programme, no point questioning them for their mission, i suspect your acclaimed quest to understand the mission of the soldiers was actually an attack on the soldiers

diportivo:

Bros,dis ur statement worries me..wat exactly does the future holds?
One religion says it is of peace.....the other doesn't av extremists
And they still cant condone each other?
Which way naija?

the note the Muslims the more the wahala.

[color=#990000][/color] I don't bilivit. Y? Simple. During GEJ they all said he was a Christian and an anti-Islam n anti-North leader so he send d military to attack their people. Now both PMB and the army chief r both muslims and northerners. Ma point is, this people are obviously anoda islamic sect.

sazeed31:
With this zakyzaky's recent act, they are apparently depicting they are another insurgency to watch out for. Can't their leader be arrested?

Arresting the leader of any sect has never be proven to be a viable solution anywhere in the world

Ghost01:
The confrontation between the military and the sect members is still on-going sef. I've been hearing the sound of sporadic gunshots and shouts of "Allahu Akbar" for more than three hours now.

Wielding weapons and shooting and shouting "Allahu Akbar" There is nothing to suggest islam is peaceful if any true muslims will search his/her conscience. How did they get access to such number of guns to be strong enough to face NA? Even as a student , MSN association were known with an aggressive posture.

Islam needs rebranding.

kings2013:
i think some of you are saying what you think, not what you no, becaus some of you dont have information. Pls let the soldiers do their work, this people have information and thy work with it.

Until a close relative or family friend of yours will fall to the bullet of an overzealous soldier that u will feel their pains..

This act should be condemned seriously and a committee should be set up to look into the activities of the military in recent times

Fawklicant:


When lastma messes up we all blame ambode. He is their oga. He appoints lastma heads. Or should I blame it on Fayose? So how is this different? Army messes up I blame the commander in chief of the ARMED forces, not senate president

You can only Blame Ambode because he fired the Experience MDs and Replace them with new guys that wants to now do trial and error, when the Old guys had 8years to Pefect it. But you can't Blame Ambode because a Lasma office Jump on your hood. You Blame their Boss for Not doing his Job by instilling fear and Discipline.

it seems some "robots", paid or otherwise, have taken over this thread and posting to spam the thread and spread either doubts or a pointing finger at one side.

the organization's website is down. it looks it has been taken down.

chinchum:
Wielding weapons and shooting and shouting "Allahu Akbar" There is nothing to suggest islam is peaceful if any true muslims will search his/her conscience. How did they get access to such number of guns to be strong enough to face NA? Even as a student , MSN association were known with an aggressive posture.

Islam needs rebranding.

Show me a religion that is peaceful and I'll show you a biological grandmother who is a virgin.

nyabinghi:
see this bastard, while muslims worship God you animals worship jesus a dead human being.

who is complaining here!

Muham-mad my ass

rusher14:
I'm not quite sure what to believe.

This group has not really been in the news for violence and often times,they are found to be at the receiving end of some abuse nay overzealousness.

Yet, one wonders why they've always had runnings with just about every government that comes into power.

It's difficult for one outside their sphere of influence to understand their mission, motive, plight and desires.

The Nigerian Army has also been known to be sometimes overzealous, unprofessional and tactless.

I am simply hoping that for the sake of peace and humanity a proper investigation is carried out by those in higher authority to understand and manage whatever has transpired.

Rest in peace to those who died, especially if they were simply carrying out their religious duties in a civil manner.

If only Nairalanders can comment like you just did. Nigeria would be a great nation by thinking like you.

you are blessed

Most Commenters here seem to justify the actions of the military by accusing the Sect memebrs of blocking Federal Roads.. my questions are as follows:

1. Is Kaduna State or even Zaria under Marshal Law?
2. Where in the Constitution is the punishment for obstruction of federal roads punishable by death?
3. Are Shiites world over persecuted or not?
4. Do Shiites hold well-publicized yearly processions or not?
5. Do Catholics hold Processions on some days ( Passover, Pentecost, etc) and block major roads without police or Army harassment?
6. Has the Council on Inter-religious affairs considered a meeting with zakzaky with a view of refining his processions and making them more acceptable?
7. Has the Army apologised for the death of Zakzaky's sons last year?
8. Do Shiites in Nigeria have the requisite numbers to pose a major security threat in Nigeria?
9.Does the Nigerian Constitution guarantee freedom of Worship?
10. Does a Sect that has endured hundreds of years of persecution in the hands of most Govts. and even non-state actors have the right to bear arms to defend herself?


Down with Religious Intolerance!

Ghost01:
Show me a religion that is peaceful and I'll show you a biological grandmother who is a virgin.

Probe/search your conscience , i wont get involved in back/forth with you.

Pa wole soyinka just talked the about horrible treatment on the civillians by the military. For them to carryout this, few days after condemnation shows their unproffessionalism. They are outrighly saying they will be killing the armless civillians when they vow to protect the deadly boko haram. Burati, don,t bring lie into this and leave zakyzaky alone, face boko haram.

nyabinghi:
see this bastard, while muslims worship God you animals worship jesus a dead human being.

Muhammad made his Allâh issue this command:  “Fighting is good prescribed for you, and you dislike it.  But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing, which is bad for you.  But Allâh knows, and you know not.” (Q. 2:216)

Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric explained that war was not Muhammad’s first choice: “He gave three options: either accept Islam, or surrender and pay tax, and they will be allowed to remain in their land, observing their religion under the protection of Muslims.” The Grand Mufti is right.  Violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam.  This is no credit to Muhammad.  Few armed robbers resort to violence if their victim peacefully cooperates.  Criminals only use violence if they encounter resistance.

Frankiss44:


Until a close relative or family friend of yours will fall to the bullet of an overzealous soldier that u will feel their pains..

This act should be condemned seriously and a committee should be set up to look into the activities of the military in recent times

I'm with you on this one. The only thing impunity and injustice breed is more violence. Imagine if the soldiers that murdered those worshipers last year had been subjected to the justice system, what's happening today won't be happening.

Radical islam is messed up