macof:



:-/ lie lie

bini and ludicrous claims are inseparable


sungbo eredo that was already left desolate before bini empire began?


bini empire never extended past akure. ...akure was in fact in constant battles against bini that I cannot safely say Akure was ever subjected

VirginFinder:


Let me break it down:

1. Yoruba language is to Binis what English is to Nigerians.

2. Agbada/Buba & Sokoto(Yoruba outfit) is to Binis what suit, shirt and trouser is to Nigerians.

3. Ifa/Ogboni(Yoruba religion) is to Binis what Christianity is Nigerians.

Got it?

macof:



:-/ lie lie

bini and ludicrous claims are inseparable


sungbo eredo that was already left desolate before bini empire began?


bini empire never extended past akure. ...akure was in fact in constant battles against bini that I cannot safely say Akure was ever subjected

scholes0:


I talk say Eredo, you talk say Oredo.
Read up about Sungbo Eredo.

http://www.wondermondo.com/Countries/Af/Nigeria/Ogun/Eredo.htm
http://www.cometonigeria.com/wheretogo/sungbo-eredo/

IkpuMmadu:
Did I hear you say mighty and medieval... Too much names is what kills a dog


Is it the mud houses in Benin
Is it the prostitutions ring and cartel
Is it giving us armed robbery.. Annenih and oisunbor
Is it bad government
Is it witchcraft
Is it fetish mentality till date

Is it exiled King
Us it defeated state by biafrans


What is mighty about them

Laor tota

VirginFinder:
Ancient Bini people saw Yorubas as big brothers to be proud of.
It's the modern ones that are trying to rub shoulders unnecessarily.
What a shame!

There are Yoruba traces (dressing/language/religion) in core Benin.
But you can't find any trace of Benin in core Yorubaland.

Also, many Binis can relate to Yoruba language.

However, the larger majority of Yorubas dont even know what the Bini dialect sounds like.

Come on!!

ycat:
It's because the great wall of China was real and still is. But the Benin own was imaginary and built in their mouths. There are walls like the ones mind1 showed all over Nigeria where they were built and still today though beaten up but standing.

Something a people never had can't magically appear just because they wish and believe their own lies.

macof:


the last pic is sungbo eredo not the wall of Benin

opal4real:


What a comical fellow.

yoruba is not spoken in Benin, agbada is not benin traditional wear neither is it yoruba's ask the northerners more about agbada and there i no ifa in benin but IHA OGUEGA and yoruba is not used as in ifa corpus mind you most ifa words are not even yoruba beg for more info and i will enligthen you were you parents couldn't.
Ogboni was a political tool used by the awolowo action group in the 50's and helped instead by the obaseki who was at logger head with the benin throne we all knew how he died.

texanomaly:


Which version of history are you talking about here? On this one thread few can agree on where boundaries were, who lived where, what they wore, what language was spoken first, which religions were here first and which tribe was most influential.

Imagine a history class where radical tribalists start physically fighting each other over perceived differences. Is Nigeria ready to collect it's various histories and become one nation? I often wonder. I've been talking to Nigerians for a few years now. Is it possible to write a history book that won't cause a riot? You tell me?

History is extremely important. If nothing else, so we don't make the same mistakes over and over. It is also important to know where we come from.


Those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

Mynd44:
This is nice. Real nice

Here are some pictures of that famous wall

erusen:
peace my dear is only found in developed countries where is employment for youth,sound education good amenities,places in the world where there is almost no excuse to commit a crime,places like Holland, Finland,Norway,usa,etc not really determine by the "opium of the people".

opal4real:


You cannot find any trace of Yoruba in core Beninland, the Yoruba's always call on the Benin for military support ask Ogendegbe of Ekiti Parapo it was the benin soldiers among them that renders the invading Ibadan army useless and they never dare any Benin land.

Religion nada comon kid grow up! What religion? There was NOTHING like Yoruba when BEnin Empire existed and Oyo was a garrison of criminals who were slave raiders hence the reason for the Kiriji war. Tell me one town outside the Yoruba speaking region was conquered by Oyo?

Kids with no knowledge of their history trying to disrespect the tribe who made them.

We gave you Oduduwa, we united you all with our support of the Kiriji war without Benin there is no Yoruba!

Obiagelli:

They had all those in Africa before the arrival external influence via religion

tbaba1234:


There were great Muslim empires in Africa that had great literacy, organization and military strength.
Examples are:
The Mali empire,
The Songhai Empire

The problem was not religion as you are trying to claim.

tpiar:
just to be certain, this is the comparison being made?



I am not sure, hence my question.

tbaba1234:
Benin City, the mighty medieval capital now lost without trace

[b]With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China


The Guinness Book of Records (1974 edition) described the walls of Benin City and its surrounding kingdom as the world’s largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era. According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China

Barely any trace of these walls exist today.

tbaba1234:


Scholars of history assert that the Benin wall was indeed longer than the wall of China. Yes.

codemaniacs:


Religion was a problem cos it turned people of the same tribe against each other. African countries did well with their own traditional religion.

tpiar:


hm, what are the measurements on both?

tbaba1234:


There were great Muslim empires in Africa that had great literacy, organization and military strength.
Examples are:
The Mali empire,
The Songhai Empire

The problem was not religion as you are trying to claim.

tbaba1234:


People of the same tribe have always fought each other.

Even in the Benin kingdom, some of the towns in Edo state were formed by people who fled from the Oba . (When they felt oppressed).

Throughout history, brothers have fought brothers for power.

Obiagelli:

My point that africa was doing relatively well even with their "devilish" religion before the arrival of external influence.

codemaniacs:


You're contradicting yourself, the article says they were peaceful and didn't have doors, that means they never fought each other. In your bid to defend and promote your religion you're talking from two sides of your mouth.

Brothers never fought each other. It was western and Arab religion that caused it. Africans had serious respect for morals and traditions.

Obiagelli:

My point that africa was doing relatively well even with their "devilish" religion before the arrival of external influence.

erusen:
Jesus Christ,wentin concern Bini man concern. agbada,IFA worship in Benin? my friend wake up,just travel to Benin city and stop saying rubbish,the deities in Benin tradictions are Ogun(iron god),oromila,ailala,do u know am a Bini person I have no clue on single sentence in Yoruba means,we Neva know our language finish na Yoruba we wan go learn,which kind inferiority complex dey worry you

ycat:
Foool, The original bini was a land with some Yoruba from Oranmiyan, not you impostors, and Yoruba was the first oba of that land. You probably just found about wiki. So how did you tell your story before now? The whole world can't see what wasn't there, only now you inferior schizophrenic people are just trying to make up history for yourselves, you didn't have any.

Obiagelli:

They had all those in Africa before the arrival external influence via religion

codemaniacs:


It wasn't devilish. The foreigners studied how Africans worshipped and wrote in their 'holy' books that it was a crime to worship objects.

dejavski:


Na we(ilajes) get am @ the bolded

dejavski:


Na we(ilajes) get am @ the bolded