YOLO1:



I wonder which polythecnic gave u admission in the first place with this ur catastrophic grammar....... Now I think we now have a clue of what we are talking about. To me even a PASS in the university is better than being a HND holder

hotwax:


[size=15pt]You are right. It might be that your brain could not comprehend what I wrote.

The question you should be asking is:

Why can't BSC perform better than HND?

They were given the same task/project to complete. HND was able to deliver in a timely manner whereas BSC struggled.

How is that my fault? Get your little man sentiment out of here[/size]

Babysho:



LOL, I know that guy's written grammar and probably spoken too is formidable but you cannot generalize that all Polytechnic students are poor students.

Although, Universities have lesser amount of poor students than Polytechnics but there is always that Polytechnic student that is as good as the best University student.

Some people just get fucqed over in this Barbaric Nigerian Educational System.

I got 223 in Jamb i.e (when Jamb was Jamb o) but I flopped my post ume in UI. They delayed the exam and I fell sick. So, I had to go for the Polytechnic that gladly welcomed me.

Right now, I'm probably going to graduate with pass. Over 1,000 students in one class without microphone, sometimes they lose your exam script and that's the end, it's a permanent zero. So you can see it's not that some are not smart but the situation in Nigeria is just fucqed. It's freaking fucqed.

bozy4real:
Those in the university is just an opportunity to be thereis now as if those in tthe polytechnic at more brilliant.
Most polytechnic student that went back to university through direct entery are doing far far better than those the meet. His not my choice or our choice to go to polytechnic but when that was our best bet rather than wasting out time and been useless to our their nation n the world at large .
Am proud to be an HND holder if u have any problem with that go n join BH cheese,........,.

hotwax:


This is it.

[size=15pt]I personally will take an HND Mechanical Engineer, Computer Scientist over their BSC counterpart.

However, Law, Medicine, accounting e.t.c is for University no doubt[/size]

vickylala239:



So What is your point then

Cuz I Dnt understand you...

You also posted you picture how do we connect this...

Does that picture mean that you are rich or What?

Thats What I don't get...

TonyRoland:
bt I can be a PRESIDENT with SSCE. we people sha stay dere dey tell me story for d gods.

hotwax:


Says who? What are you talking about?

Fairgodwin:
I guess it all depends on the class of the HND (degree). If the HND is a distinction, then I will agree it is far better and more considerable/commendable than a BSc in the 3rd class category. But if it is lower credit HND (or even an upper credit at times) then I'll completely tell you the BSc 3rd class is more considerable/preferable to the HND.

Of course a distinction in HND is [supposed to be] better than a 3rd class BSc degree, but in any case, the average Nigerian person might not see it in that light.

My humble opinion, though.

PS there's a huge difference between 'being' and 'been' sir. The write up is very nice I must confess, but you used 'being' where you were supposed to use 'been.' I'm sorry I couldn't overlook it, because it always troubles me to see such mistakes.

Edubrazilnwa:
lol all these things still boils down to who you know.mehn but for me oo I rather have HND distinction than Bsc.3rd class..mehn shame ma sef no go dey gree me present d result

histemple:


Bros, you need brighter grammar. The book will help you to improve your understanding and use of English language.

I doubt if those arguing in favour of HND will be proud that you are one of them.

HomoSapiien:


Truth is, I have passed through the wall of polytechnic (OND precisely) and I never for once observe this practical and theoretical aspects that people shout about, as one of the merit of going to a polytechnic.

The lecturers mainly dictate the content of their handouts in class and repeats same questions every year in their examinations. Even project; you just copy and paste it, pay 5k to your supervisor and you will earn your A or B.

I swear to God, if you end up with anything less than upper credit, then I believe the winch in your village are playing kiddo in your head.

I'm not pestering you to admit this but you know this is the truth.

Fynestboi:
Most probably, contrary to your belief, this is no fight between HND and Degree, we are just here to check and balance. Having an HND and having a Third Class BSC Degree, which one is better concerning regards for each in the employment market.

First of all, Definition of Terms for some of us who might not be so sure of what HND and Third Class BSC are :

HND Holder is one who has completed a course program at a Polytechnic in Nigeria. The certificate awarded upon completion of the program is the Higher National Diploma (HND).

BSc Holder is one who has completed an undergraduate program at a University in Nigeria. The degree awarded upon completion of the program is a Bachelor Degree (BSc).

Now, my own opinion :
Since time past the HND has always being considered inferior to the BSc. This, at least, was the idea inculcated in us by the colonial masters and this mentality is what many of us still hold onto today, which is not supposed to be.

It is also important that we know that the university is an internationally recognized higher institution of learning all around the world. As such, a third class BSc holder may sometimes have the opportunity of furthering their studies in a way that the HND holder cannot because a BSc is recognized everywhere while same cannot be said for the HND. Besides, we look down on the HND ourselves in Nigeria, why then would international bodies regard it any more than we do.

Many employers today may not even include HND as one of the qualifications required for job vacancy positions. In light of this, HND holders may sometimes get automatically disqualified before even getting a chance at interview.

Another key point is, an HND holder may secure a good job real quick compared to a third class BSc holder, but the effect of this is that in the long run, a HND holder who fails to upgrade his certificate to a BSc may find himself bowing to that third class BSc holder (who has now added to his qualifications) whom he had left behind all those years ago.

Well, not to sound bias :

Over the years, Polytechnic graduates have proven themselves to be in no way inferior to their counterparts in the university.

Today, a polytechnic student can stand shoulder to shoulder with an undergraduate in the university and even surpass him/her. Besides, Polytechnics have being known to conduct more research and practical works than the university. This prepares the students adequately for what is needed to face the outside world.

In conclusion, it would be wrong of me to declare a third class degree as better than the HND.

So here we are, what's your view.

Graduating with an HND or a Third Class BSC Degree - Which is better?


SOURCE : http://eduregard.com/hnd-holder-vs-third-class-degree-bsc-holder/

IstandWitBuhari:

Check most international scholarships what you see there is 1st ,2. 1 or 2. 2 , you will never see 3rd class or Hnd so stop disgracing your self in public by saying hnd distinction is better than a 2. 2 University graduate. A cgp of 3.4 9 is still a 2. 2 graduate.

histemple:


Good Question!

If you are conversant with the Polytechnic environment and the curriculum, you will observe that the main focus is on technical expertise. However, some of these course can't stand alone as some element of management is required.

A mechanical engineering student for example, need to understand what is Project management and project financing. This was basically why you have those departments as Bus. Admin and Accountancy. If you check the course outline of any engineering student, you will find management and computer courses in it.

There are also other areas where technical assistance is required. Such areas are Zoology, SLT, etc but such graduates are only needed to provide technical assistance and not to head the organization or departments.

The foregoing notwithstanding, you can still find students of Mass Communication, Entrepreneurship, Psychology etc in the Polytechnic-------perhaps due to admission challenges or frustration.

vickylala239:


And you are an employer of labour and your here exchanging hate, abusive wrds..

You Jst came here to claim this or that,no one knw weda ur saying d truth or not..

Cuz u culd actually fabricate story so are to push praises to ur own hnd....

Jst as anyone culd cum here to claim same....

tosyne2much:
Dey dia dey deceive urself

tosyne2much:
I don't think there's a general rule that a university student will definitely be better than a polytechnic graduate. I think it has to do with individual differences and perhaps
, how you're able to develop and equip yourself


Though, I can't speak for others but I can at least speak for myself.. I have HND in view and to the glory of God, I can confidently compete with any university student (area of specialization apart) It without being sidelined. I have had the opportunity to do certain things with many university students and my influence is greatly being felt that it keeps them misconception they have for polytechnic students.

Both university and polytechnic students can both be half-baked, they can both be dumb heads, they can both be unproductive and unemployable in the labour market, they can both goof when put to test, they can both be grammatically deficient. In fact, an SSCE holder may even perform better than both of them

So, in a nutshell, a university graduate can be better than polytechnic graduate and vice versa

The fact that others were not privileged to attend a university is not enough reason to unjustly rule out discriminating conclusion just because you want to look superior in their presence. Only broke and jobless people bother themselves with such an uncalled juxtaposition in order to bring other people down just to feel superior.


My 2cent

olatunji390:


How did u do that?

EduRegard:
Having a third class degree doesnt necessarily mean one isn't brilliant.

I can't pass tru university n graduate with a third class, to me is n insult.

You might want to see : How A Nigerian Got A Job With His Third Class Degree

And it's not all about good grades, See : Reasons Why First Class Students Hardly Become First Class People In Life

And also as a thrid class graduate, See : 7 Solid Tips On How To Make It With A 3rd Class Degree


Thanks.

oloworulz:
am not saying bsc products are better than HND products. but the truth is u have to have what the society demands. the person that helped me asked if am a university graduate or polytechnic. and I told him am a bsc holder. he said very good. he didn't even complain abt my 3rd class.

oloworulz:
am serious, Dats d truth, I was shocked when I saw my colleagues appointment letter. many things are happening under ur Nose. o boy, u better start connecting yourslf. bsc degree is d deal right now

Alryt thanks bro