raphieMontella:

thats exactly how it is...non-sense


they say what their God says...

the islamic religion is proof..

doesnt make it true..

oh dear..i said converts happen in all religions...
Whats the ignorance there again?

i said...evidence that yours is the true and real god...
And u started bringing an argument ad population...

thats the foolishness of the afterlife..thats the better analogy

like i said...do you dictate for yahweh?
Even jesus didnt know where he would be after his death...he both said he will be in paradise and in the earth(matt 12:40 and luke 23:42-43)
a lot more contradictions like Mo' statement in the bible..

are two humans on the earth the same?
Forgive my choice of words...I meant similar..like really similar

to show you they are many
https://en.m.wikipeidia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_god
u believe the rest to be myths..but not urs...lol sha..

archaelogical evidence makes persons drift away from christianity oga

are you trying to cop-out?
I actually think you should check the meaning of resurrection not me..

likewise other religions..

and youre still a christian but u want it the other way round..okay

fell ke? Without predestination judas cannot betray jesus..i cant argue this evident shvt ni!

yes..since you say yours is also literal..why cant theirs be literal?

should we both do the maths?
8 humans(noah's family) around 2400B.C committed incest to give earth's current populace?
For real?

so u mean their parents are dishonest?

raphieMontella:

but the bible isnt?
And what proof do u have?...

hian..so God must fit in your own personal view before he/she/it becomes God?...lol...

u believe it was made up..but the bible etc sent(dictated) by god..ok.
No Beginning?...Did the initial God have a beginning?

boxed in a corner ke?
How then did i know of them?
Who is the devil pls?

likewise the greek gods...they gave the sacrifices for all to follow

sure right..im an agnostic but it doesnt change the fact that there are other hells...sure hells..

ABC..
Thats much more common than contemporary evidences for jesus..

Image123:

i said that "None of the gods you speak of claimed to create the world and all humans.

" The expectation is that you show proof otherwise, not present articles that state clearly that what is being said is a myth. Show us proof that any of your closet gods created the world and all humans.

It is your claim, not mine. Why is the earth a god? Is it still a god? What are the tangible proofs that it is a god

The Bible was not dictated. All the stories you brought can be made up and have no tangible proof or stand to show. The Word of God remains unshaken and undisputed.

By going to the corner, how else? The devil is satan, the fellow that tells you to type rubbish and not give your life to Jesus Christ.

How, WHERE?

Sure but you don't believe. Okay. i'll send in a prayer for you.

Whatever. Many people know Jesus without the ABC.

Image123:


Next time, don't say "SAME". Find out the menaing of words before using them.

You are not making any sense, they do not compare. No god surpasses God in power, wisdom, coverage, worship, precision and relevance. You cannot take ANY other god to the bank. Jehovah God is the ONLY God that calls the multitudes in their hundreds and they troop in. 2nd, 3rd or whatever position is not 1st. i'm talking real things you know of, when i bring out data and proof now, you will show that i wasted my time by saying that the numbers do not mean it is the truth. What evidence do you want exactly, faith or unseen?

Oh oh, just like i predict above. It shows it UNIQUE. What do you want to use to measure seeing spiritual things are a challenge for you? i try to help you with physical, you accept but do not feel it makes it true. What makes it true? What kind of evidence do you need exactly?

But you just said that i am the one that FEELS so, that the adherents do not FEEL so. Why are you so confused? i talked about regular consistent massive conversions. This happens everywhere and every week. It is not a feeling, it is reality. That naira sells for over 400naira/$ is a reality regardless of feelings. Same with conversions that are visible in crusades and evangelism campaigns.

[s]Same as above, what sort of other evidence do you want? You rejected biblical evidence[/s]

you rejected physical evidence, what do you want?

Your mistake and your views/analogy are a proof that there is no afterlife. You must be a genius, don't you think?

We are talking about Mo's eternity, he clearly is not sure of it. i am sure of mine. Jesus clearly said He was going to Heaven to be with His Father, He said it too many times even a toddler is not confused. Unfortunately, you have chosen to be confused. Paradise is a place the spirits of just men go after death. Their bodies are on earth, Jesus is coming back for them. This are clear scripture teachings, it's a miracle that you choose to be confused about it.

Next time, think carefully before you talk, instead of later coming to ask for forgiveness. You need God's forgiveness more.

It is not my belief, your links said so, what is my own?

The same archaeological evidences that make many persons faith grounded. The fire that cooks my food will probably burn yours, no wahala.

Jesus is the meaning. Who has the so called resurrections helped? You seem to be doing the cop out.

Speak english. You were predestined to glorify God but you are not.

So theirs should be literal BECAUSE YOU say so but YOU don't believe so? Make sense please.

Life is not LIMITED to mathematics. Abijah's father had 88children, not 4 or 2. At that rate, it is very possible.

They hardly said that their gods were the correct version, they simply claimed to be gods.

raphieMontella:
still what i said...indirect
sometimes direct cause through demon possessions,,possesing humans and making them mad...etc
and u will say the book doesnt think for you..ok o

esther6:6..prov23:7..isaiah10:7..
Imagine an all knowing god...never mentioned the brain in the bible...
Like why??

its like coldness is absense of heat...
Grab

na wa..
Is yes and no that scarce?
Simple..are you going to be you?..or another person?

**facepalm**
NVM



What you brought just slapped you in the face...i said atheism's benefit is truth..the rest is open mindedness..
You didnt even go through what you sent..

Correct!

oh!!..but in the case of atheism it becomes as a result of being atheists?
Is there any honesty here?

lol..words of jesus from people who didnt even know jesus..okay

yes..its a one -time achievement
..

hitler an atheist?
My God

you could be a pantheist..u never can tell.

romans?...etc does it strike any bell?

u may be a worshipper of krishna...u never can tell

i told you...it is misleading

na..wish what you want...
Wouldnt make it true though..

ok..who judges the life of animals?
How do they give account for their sins?

sure means...happy?

God made you mr man, whether you like it or not.
your belief...
truth=my parents mated to make me

Knowledge is not a contrast to freewill. If i know you, does it mean i forced you to be what i know?
are you all knowing?
Did you create me?

i say again, Jesus IS coming. He said it after Peter died for Pete's sake literally.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the saying of the prophecy of this book.
Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
is jesus on african time or something?
Wtf is quickly?
Are you in daniel,,peter's generation?

Image123:


It is not at all what you said. You have a penchant for forcing your opinions to make the Bible say what it does not say.

now you are doing the same with my words. You said that i am not responsible for my actions but that someone else is. i said NO, i am responsible for my actions. i even gave you scripture passages that shows so. Your conclusion against evidence is "still what i said...indirect"

The CONTEXT in which the Bible used the heart in the passages is not in the sense of a physical organ that pumps blood. It is the inner man.

The Bible refers a lot to the human mind which is in the soul, that's your brain in case you are still looking for it in the Bible.

Atheism is like coldness is absense of heat? i don't grab, sorry.

we shall all be changed, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be. But you cancelled it, why? You don't like the answer to your question. You really don't want there to be an answer, do you?

Atheism's benefit is truth? What is the benefit of that truth,

you are going in circles.

You say the benefit is openmindedness, Selfdepedency, U control and take responsibility,

you become human and charitable.

Again like i insist, you do not need to be an atheist to have all that. Any nominal christian can have all that and still be a christian, so no benefits in other words.

Yes, the trend is clear. You have also said it that you do not really basically value human life.

If given the powers, you would do same.

Same ideology, same devil.

So the Bible is not relevant in discussing christianity? You really need to shake your head at the pathetic thing you wrote, i can't do the shaking for you my man.

Are you a christian?

Can a christian be a pantheist?

No bell at all, more of an alarm. Christianity never reigned in Rome in the sense you say. Christianity is following Jesus, being like Jesus,

principled and guided by the Bible as it were. Not that a ruler says he/she is a christian. Fashola was a muslim governor in Lagos, but islam did not reign. i hope you can understand that. Buhari is a muslim, but Nigeria is not governed by Islamic way despite all the cries of the alarmists. It is not so, at least not yet. That someone in power claims to be a particular religion does not mean that religion is ruling. But when the Bible becomes the constitution, the order that is followed, like in Sharia states where they try to use the koran. That is what i am asking you to present example of. CHRISTIANITY has not been in state affairs control and brought catastrophe.

You don't seem to know what worship means.

No it is not. Is agnosticism misleading? Agnostics commit suicide all the time, does that prove anything is misleading or there is no afterlife?

God said mine, who said yours? No one but you. But you affirm yours to be true, so i ask.

What makes your wishes righter than any other person's?

So you accept that i did not say so subtly. Animals are useless compared to humans, i do not hold your position that they are basically the same. If you feel so interested in judging them, you are welcome.

Okay, a happy implantation. What does that mean?

It is not a repeatable process, is it?

Knowing you or creating you does not translate into forcing you to be what I know.

He's on God's time which is eternally long to us but not to Him. See how that flew right over your head? If He uses man's language, you complain, if He uses His language, you still complain.

4kings:
@KingEbukasBlog
Didn't Jesus commit suicide?

KingEbukasBlog:

KingEbukasBlog:

alchemist13:
Hello KingEbukasBlog. I trust you are doing well. I want to know if the official Israelite theology was polytheistic in light of passages like:

Psalms 86:8
There is none like you among the gods, O Lord [Yahweh], nor are there any works like yours.

Psalms 97:9
For you, O LORD, are most high over all the earth;
you are exalted far above all gods.

Deu 32:8 — Deu 32:9
When the Most High [Elyon] gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.
But the Lord's [Yahweh's] portion is his people,
Jacob his allotted heritage.

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

Debut 32:43
Rejoice with him, O heavens;bow down to him, all gods...

Thanks in advance for your response.

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KingEbukasBlog:


Thank you bro .

I don't think it was , its more of showing the disparity between God and the gods of other nations .

alchemist13:


Thanks once again.

However your answer does not address passages like Deut 32:8-9 which seems to put Yahweh as one of the sons of God to receive an inheritance or portion from the 'Most High'.

I know there is an assumption that Most High and Lord (as translated by most versions) are one and the same but the earliest manuscripts make no such assumption. See Psalm 82

KingEbukasBlog:


In Psalm 82 , kings , judges , magistrates were referred to as gods and being among them means that he observes their conduct, and passes sentence upon them accordingly .

In Deut 32:8-9 , God divided all mankind , he gave all nations their inheritance and then chose Israel to be his special people .

KingEbukasBlog:



In Deut 32:8-9 , God divided all mankind , he gave all nations their inheritance and then chose Israel to be his special people .

alchemist13:


Psalm 82 cannot refer to kings, judges etc for the ff reason:

• Elohim literally means god or gods and is only rearly used to refer to human leaders. Therefore for elohim to refer to human leaders there must be clear evidence from the context. So let's examine the context.

• Elohim is said to stand in the midst of the assembly of El. Clearly Elohim is in a prosecutorial role not a Judicial role. So elohim is clearly different and inferior to El.

• Execution of justice is often attributed to gods in the ancient near east. Yahweh is often praised for his justice.

• Note verses 6 and 7. 'Son of the Most High' is often used to refer to junior deities in the Canaanite/Israelite pantheon. Now what is the one thing that all gods have, irrespective of their powers, that all humans don't have?
Immortality! And that is what the protagonist god is threatening the other gods with! Why will the fact that human leaders will die like other men be a threat to them?

Note also that verse 7 says they will die like one of the princes. Are princes not human leaders? Princes become kings and in many cases can act under the authority of their fathers as judges. So this passage cannot refer to humans.

• This passage clearly has Deuteronomy 32 in mind. As a speaker who is clearly a worshiper of the protagonist, urges him to take the responsibility off the other gods and judge the whole earth and inherit the nations.

KingEbukaNaija:
Are there questions about God , the bible or Christianity that have been bothering you for a while now . Please post them so they can be addressed by knowledgeable Christians on this forum .

Image123:


He has not come because he wants you to repent, why else? The Universe was not created in six days, the Bible does not say that. The delay is not due to the price of Dangote cement if that is what you are implying.

junaidinho:

he wants me to repent yet everyday babies are born will jesus wait again for them to grow and also repent and mind you while they grow new babies are born which means jesus will never come then

KingEbukasBlog:


Oh no no bro . Read the first page of this thread , you'd see where I addressed kids and the age of accountability .

KingEbukaNaija:


Please understand me . Jesus is God . And whatever Yahweh commands , it applies to both Jesus and the Holy Spirit .

You dig ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Its all over the news , you just dont want to pay attention

junaidinho:

why did god kill 50070 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant 1 Samuel 6:19

4kings:

address ke, out of conjecture?

junaidinho:

all over the news? please what station and when and please dont refer me to their website for the video
and if they cure cancer do you know his church would be a tourist attraction by now

KingEbukasBlog:


Its called Chosen TV .

junaidinho:

why did god kill 50070 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant 1 Samuel 6:19