tourgist:
I am not a fan of Pastor Chris but why do Nigerians always speak publicly against what they secretly desire.

For the guys against what the Pastor said it is either you are single or living in denial. and for the Ladies here i will say if you want peace in your home follow this principle and your husband will love you forever.

If you read the post properly you will see the part he said a woman has influence on her husband not by forcing her opinion on him.

The bible is clear on the issue of Marriage: Men love your wifes and Women submit to your own husbands. Women in the bible called their husband's LORD which means Master in Hebrew e.g Sarah, Ruth etc. A woman that submits makes it easier for the husband to love her.

I'm a christian and would not oppose this teaching because it is coming from Pst Chris, We should stop taking things personal.
Any Man who desires a woman that has same authority with him in Marriage, God will answer your prayer and give you your heart desires.

And for those saying he could not hold down his marriage: it takes 2 people to be married and when one party says i want out you can't force them, some of you will understand what i'm saying because there might be 1 or 2 people around who have gone through divorce, it could be your parents, sister, brother, cousin, uncle or aunt.

neocortex:


Yes if an organisation has a discriminatory rule that prevents you from being the boss no matter how
intelligent, qualified and skilled you are, then you are no different from a slave, a pawn to be used and
discarded at will.

ifenes:
And wife means servant?

Dsdada:

And what have said? Nothing. Absolutely nothing!! You may as well make dogs, cats and mosquitoes your friends and relations!

repogirl:
there is no where it says in the Bible that a woman's submission makes it easier for the man to love them. Infact it is the opposite.

The instructions were first given to the man,

Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

So whether you wife is wicked or not, whether she submits or doesn't , if you don't honour your wife, then your prayers won't be answered, simple!

Read the words from a true man of God that has stuck with his wife for decades.

http://www.josephprince.org/daily-grace/articles/single/secrets-of-manly-leadership/

I bet you if Pastor Chris had been more understanding with his wife instead of the master slave relationship he was enforcing, they would most likely still be together.

Men love your wives, same way Christ loves the church, such a simple instruction.Christ didn't wait for the church to submit before he loved them. He didn't wait fr submission before he died for their sins, so why are you MEN turning it all around.

Twaci:
Is he trying to say we have no right to be opinionated when married?

We should agree to whatever our "masters" say?

This particular sermon is unsettling

amicable09:

Lol. I will take my time to go through the comments on this thread if there are any.
But let me add that he is right though I don't agree with him on the position that women were not originally intended to be created by God, thereby making the creation of women sound like an "after thought". Not right and unscriptural. I disagree.

However, just the same way Sarah called her husband- Abraham, lord, and they lived peacefully so should daughters of Sarah do.
Marriage is no joke. If you can't submit to a man, don't marry him! If I don't respect a particular guy, no matter how rich or influential he is, I'm not marrying because there's no point marrying a guy I'll disrespect. If he says "Sit!" and I find myself saying "I won't!", then I'm not to move into the same house with that fellow. It just makes no sense to say 'I do" when my heart says "I never will". That's my view.

ever811:
your god pastor Chris lives his life according to bible principles... ehmmm..ehmmm where is his wife?

Chubhie:

Our good ole African traditions and her women ain't complaining. You should take your atheists campaign to the grassroots and try your luck.

naijafeminist:


Speak for yourself please. We're complaining

pippimp:


Lol. Seriously? your logic is comparable to a 12 year old's. How do some people think? Soon he will say he went to school. I will play along though. When you get married, don't treat your spouse like a partner. Your marriage will last longer if you have the master/slave relationship. And keep listening to these fraudsters. They are very appreciative. I hear he is looking to build another mansion with your donations. Don't forget to contribute. And you might wanna read through my posts. Your life will never be the same. The enlightenment you will receive will equal to being born again 100 times.

ifenes:


Why not explain! The husband is a master to whom? Christianity is so anti-women

Bluffly:


Synonyms!!!. I will advise you do not get entangled. Head-Follower,Master-Servant. The word Master does not indicate a tyrant and neither does the word servant indicates slave. Just get understanding with all thy gettings.

kaboninc:


Hmmmm...so you agree with the view that a woman should be under the authority of a man? As in accept in every way that he is the head and in as much as you are very much relevant, you should not seek to usurp his authority?

Babzilla:


There is a saying in Hausa... That if a man offers to give you a shirt, first look at the one he is wearing...
How can a fraudster who couldnt sustain his own marriage be giving advice.... and not giving advice based on where he went wrong rather sticking the the shìt that ruined his own marriage

ifenes:
And wife means servant?

Pavore9:


"The woman who cannot kneel down and hand over her full salary to you ,the husband with joy is not your wife".....In this present time? Bros, you are not yet ready to get married!

If my younger sister tells me the guy she is dating, expects her to be handing over her salary to him when they get married all l will advise her is to end that relationship!

Twaci:




If he didn't, why give him credit?

Walking by faith can be rightly used by any religious group you know...

Muslim terrorists can use it as a reason to kill "unbelievers"....they believe they are the tools of their "God"....that's working by faith...


Pagans too walk by faith as there's nothing to assure them they are doing the right thing....just faith


You shouldn't hide behind that phrase mister as it is not wide enough to cover you.

What doesn't make sense doesn't...and this doesn't.

HMZi:
... then your sister go old 4 house na,my dear it shouldnt be ur business in d 1st place,the decision aint urs to make...calm down.

repogirl:
the slave master relationship is not one of love but obligation of the slave to the master where the master has no feelings toward the slave.

The Bible said men love your wives as Christ loves the church...not as master loves his slave

BlackMbakara1:
For the ladies, no offence but please someone debunk all what he said from the bible? If you can't my conclusion is:

1. If your wedded in a church or intend to wed in a church and holds the bible as a guide, follow the dictates.

2. If your wedded in a mosque or intend to wed in a mosque and holds the koran as a guide, follow the dictates.

3. If your wedded in a registry or intend to wed in a registry and holds the bible or koran/marriage guide/bye law as a guide, follow the dictates.

4. If your wedded traditionally or intend to wed traditionally and holds the norms/bye law as a guide, follow the dictates.

There's no point crying fowl, as it's still optional to remain single...

Pavore9:


Fortunately, she is presently engaged to someone who cares less about what she earns from her stores rather he gives her ideas on how to expand as he can't be a top executive in a Dubai property marketing firm and still be interested in a woman kneeling down before him to hand him her income!

Everyone has the calibre of people they get attracted to. For guys who need women to knee down before them and hand over their pay packet, May the Lord grant them the grace to find such women.........but certainly not from my family!

ifenes:


If you are a boss, you preside over workers. Spit it out! Say it! The woman is a slave according to your bible.

HMZi:
i dnt suppt pastor chris in any way,when it comes to couples decisions,only them and d courts have any say,nt u and i.

ifenes:


Do you know why feminists are on the rise? Those are women who are tired of the "godly principles" They want to be free from the role forced on them by naive men who created a silly book to enslave them. The Bible is anti-women. Show me one passage that spoke well of women?

AZeD1:
"And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

Can two walk together, except they be agreed?



I guess this part of the scriptures are missing in pastor Chris's bible.

frank317:
says a man who cannot handle his wife. This man has no right to teach anything on marriage issues