neocortex:


Hahaha this must be a joke,
accountability to god does not prevent people from
committing crimes. Maybe you need to visit prisons
to go ask the inmates if they knew that god will punish
them for "sinning" against him.

There are millions of wife beaters in church , what
you must know is that believe in a god does not
determine a man's behaviour.

I am sure you must have encountered many scenario
that proves that.

listen to me neocortex, if religion is eradicated and everybody becomes atheist, you will hate this world.. do you know how many millions of people religion shape their moral conduct? do you really get the meaning of this sentences and how it has help maintain peaceful existance: "if not for God i would have...", in the name of God forgive. so wen pointing at those who feel they are nt accountable to God for anytin. remember the billions who tinks otherwise.

hopefulLandlord:
the funniest part is that not every church goer is a theist

most atheists on Nairaland are church goers and mosque goers themselves and some probably pray fervently and are regarded as "born again" Christian by their church members and "true Muslims" by the Islamic community

the bitter truth is that you may never know an atheist even when you've "known" him for years

that pastor you respect? remember him? he could be an atheist

that church member of yours that's handsome and "doesn't take his spiritual life with levity"? Remember him? he could be atheist

that "close friend" of yours whom you pray together? remember him? he could be atheist

that guy that knocks your door to preach to you, remember him? he could be atheist


the harsh truth is that until atheism becomes acceptable in Nigeria, you're gonna find it hard to know whom an atheist is, we are like American gays before the legalisation, hiding who we are to survive and thrive

Brilliant response.

seun. what i can deduct from all your write up is that: you are comfortable with atheist not marrying christians. if nt i dnt see the reasons why you should be re-twisting my words, instead of giving any logical reasoning, to either refute or support the points above.

Vick4rill:
Unless you are ready to be an atheist yourself, don't ever believe you guys will be able to tolerate each other for long. Forget about the "bullshit" about both of you, loving yourselves and being tolerant to one another. That assertion can never work. How can u spend your life with somebody who thinks that your "belief" is delusional and plain foolishness?

How can you train your children in such a man's house? What if he decides that his children will become atheists too? What will happen when both of you are supposed to pray and come together as a family? Do you think such a person will tolerate ur pastors or church members visiting you in his house?

Avoid atheists like plagues. Don't ever think you can change or convert him, once you people are married. There is no any good quality that any atheist possesses, that is not found among the Christian brothers. Just pray hard and God will give you a good believer that will give you more happiness than any atheist can ever think of giving you.

This is how it starts. Next you'll call on all Christians to kill any known atheist. Have you ever wondered why Muslims kill non Muslims without thinking? It's as a result of admonitions such as yours. When Christianity loses the last straw it is grasping the crusades will be reborn. Unfortunately for you it is your religion that will lose the war. The world has moved on from the lies of religion.

Future wife I dey implore you

Please don't go to church apart from Sundays

Vince77:


But i wouldn't mind marrying a female atheist.

I am a Christian

please, there is a big difference, between a christian and a church goer.

chubbyswit:
sorry atheist but not this kind of love.

Is it a higher or lower love?

Amberon:
Lol....when atheists think they can use the bible against us.

There are different kinds of love and I definitely cannot do the "Eros" with an atheist.
Atheists should marry their fellow atheists.

Gbam your talkie straight like cigarette....take 4 crates of baby-oku u too much...atheist shud marry atheists simple
aby goat fit marry lion?

oglalasioux:


This is how it starts. Next you'll call on all Christians to kill any known atheist. Have you ever wondered why Muslims kill non Muslims without thinking? It's as a result of admonitions such as yours. When Christianity loses the last straw it is grasping the crusades will be reborn. Unfortunately for you it is your religion that will lose the war. The world has moved on from the lies of religion.

what is this one saying? who is talking about war here? it is this type of post by atheist, that keep giving my signature credit abt wat atheist truly are.pls if you any logical objection to my post bring it and stop blabing

ojigbijigbi:
I don't know why I love girls with wide hips and bubble butt. Do I need help or what

you need two bottles of baby-oku

Anas09:

It appears you dont know the different kinds of love.

Theres Romantic love =Husband and wife.


Philio kind of love= Family love= Brothers and Sisters.


Agape. Unconditional love = Christ to the Sinners.

Which one do you think i should have for you when am clearly commanded not to unequally yoke with you?

or else he will suddenly destroy you as it is written in your books. You and your god are weak beings. He is not healthy in his competition with other gods of his kind. He gets jealous whenever his followers leaves him for anoda god because he is unable to protect and provide for there needs. Instead of increasing his quality of delivery, he kills anyone who dare complain, or he may send his extremist soldiers to do his work. He tells them to keep on praying hoping one day he may decide to 'pick up their call', wasting productive hours on songs and praises because aside prayers, he feeds on them too.He Takes away people's family and claims responsibility. He says he gives and takes as he pleases without question. He has angel of death contact on speed dial. He placed their father in a garden bugged with a trap. Then he inserted a catalyst(serpent/satan) to speed up their destruction. He said we failed. Then place a curse on us for eternity. Curse so vile that my stomach turns whenever I read your holy book. And when you realise he cursed you for your first ever mistake. Mistake caused by he(god) programming you to be disobedient. I guess you won't mind. Cos you have been brainwashed. You no more use your brain.lol it's all washed out. Well.. that your god. Mine created me and all the things I see perfected in nature. From the universe to the smallest cell . I realise that the only way I can get to him understand him more is by studying what he has created. not what some drunk, sex raved lying ass wrote in some holy books. #teamlivelovelearn.

one of my colleagues at work is an atheist. funny enough he is married to a born again lady with lovely kids. he attends church and knows the bible in and out better than most christians and he even invited us to the church the day he was made an elder in the church.
this guy is so full of love, which was what really attracted his wife to him and he is one of my best friends. A man i can always rely on when i need help. he gives love without discrimination even to the christians in our work place who keeps telling him to his face that he is going to hell.

hmm

Antiparticle,

I understand where you're coming from, and I must admit that for an atheist(or someone who doesn't believe in GOD), you're really civil and ready to reason.

Well, I cannot presume to say that I have represented Christ's love as good as I should have done it. However, I know I have tried to reason with many a skeptic from the "Christ's love" point of view. The fact remains, unfortunately, that many will still not believe. The Bible has to be true in Psalm 14:1.

I'm somewhat intrigued that you, a person who had found "Christ's love", no longer believes in Jesus Christ.

Why did you abandon Christianity? What questions shook your faith in Christ? What discoveries did you make? What was the last straw that broke the camel's back?

Vick4rill:
what is this one saying? who is talking about war here? it is this type of post by atheist, that keep giving my signature credit abt wat atheist truly are.pls if you any logical objection to my post bring it and stop blabing

You are building up hatred among peoples. But why shouldn't you? Isn't your bible full of racism, segregation, slavery and outright murder of people deemed unworthy. You are living the bible itself so carry on. Last time I checked more people who confess to your religion divorced or are in terrible marriages because your 'god' made marriage compulsory. It's ok for strange bedfellows to marry once both of them are from the same church.

By the way; when will a catholic wed an assembly of god church member? You should worry about that not about atheists.

chrisj2:


I liked this! Because I am an agnostic... However, it is much easier for an atheist to be tolerant of a mildly religious person than an ultra-religious (like the pastor loving, night vigil and bible classes types.

I fond it so hard to communicate with members of my family because every other word is god this and god that... So you are right that a deeply religious person should not kid themselves about marrying an atheist - it will be hard for it to work! I also like the part about not trying to change people; right on!

kudos man. my first time of meeting a sincere atheist

I am in support of Christians marrying Christians but let us never count someone who marry from other religions as being nonsensical or stupid.

God has no limit and as well His grace; He does things His own way to prove our wisdom wrong. All we read is what our mortal eyes can see. He sees beyond this point.
Who can believe God would approve a prophet marrying a prostitute................................................ Hosea did
Who can imagine a chosen of God marrying an idol worshipper...... ..................................................Jacob did
Who can ever believe that God would have interest in someone who killed and persecuted His people.....He had in Paul

All we leave it for is, if God approves of it...definitely....there is success at the end.

Christianity is never a political party of disassociation or feeling with discontentment with others but winning souls for the kingdom.

Some of us feel it is better for one to have a friend who womanizes and goes to church on Sunday than an atheist. For me, I think both are the same, they share the view that God doesn't exist or if at all He exists, He is blind from their actions.

However, marry someone who would never make you lose your SOUL.

aaronson:
Stank thread like bad breath, Spits on ignorance of the op and people with like minds.

Why not educated christians against social division and whatever happened to that christiandom saying of "love thy neighbour as thyself".

Love thy neighbour as thyself Is not a reason/excuse for being unequally yoked.

aaronson:
I gave unconditional love the moment I made it known that I love everybody from all religion faith worldwide but your God loves only christians and instructed you guys to never have nothing to do with Satan so me and your God, who is best at giving unconditional love?

@Aaroson do you really know what Unconditional Love means. It's deeper than what you can think. I don't think any human is capable of unconditional Love. It's not about saying you accommodate everybody views and opinion. Let me explain this idea using this scenario: Can you bring in someone into your home who refuses to play by your rules and not eject him/her. I don't think any human can cope with that...But that is we behave to God. He created us and give us instructions to live by. Yet we choose our own way and he is really tolerating us until we breathe our last or till the expiration of this age. A time long enough for us to change of mind. Please Unconditional Love is beyond human beings understanding and capacity.

Vick4rill:
lol, for ur mind nw u don make sense? clap for ur self. pls try and refute my claims and shw hw wat i said is unreasonable.we are even talking abt male atheist. i pity any man who will marry a female atheist. i wonder hw that family will be.

Crap! My wife was an agnostic when I married her and very soon, hopefully she will be convinced through her personal research on the philosophy of religion. My PhD advisor was an atheist, still living with her husband. Her son is a graduate of the prestigious Harvard University where he studied Economics! I had been to her home couple times before I got my doctorate and believe me I have never seen a great home like hers! I really learnt a lot from her very simple lifestyle. When I was under her tutelage she was the most loving advisor I ever had!

Please leave your hood and get exposed to the real world outside our beloved country Nigeria. Peace.

TruthHurts1:
The truth is that an atheist has no moral compass.
For an atheist anything goes. Because he doesn't believe in a Higher Power to whom he will be accountable at the end of his life, he is free to indulge and even over-indulge every excessive urge for selfish gratification that comes over him.
Is it any wonder that the biggest producers of pornography in the world, like Larry Flint and Hugh Heffner are staunch atheists?
It takes discipline to subordinate yourself to a Higher Ideal. Atheists will NEVER have such discipline.

Bro, your post made me google this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7WQ_K-IuM
I couldn't believe my eyes when I read what Lexington Steele (A top porn actor) said at 1:25: " worship and prayer were how I made it through some tough scenes. The Lord was always on my mind"

This is the Truth and this is the Truth.

If you marry a religious woman, who thinks that is someone else that will solve all her problem, (GOD) you are in trouble.
If you marry a religious man who thinks i someone else (GOD) that would solve all his problem,you are in trouble.
Both of these people are feed with hope only hope. No new idea, no facts for discussion, No brain exercise.
The pastor selling hope by GOD is the control of the brains of these two kind of people.
" These kind of people are not problem solvers" because their brain has been sealed and confiscated by religious messages.
These kind of people mostly listen to their GURU first the Pastor or HIMAM.

It simply mean that if you marry a religious woman, you are in danger all the time because her brain has been controled by the GURU.
whatever the GURU wants, is what your woman would come home and do. How many time men had been forced to register to a religious group because of a woman? It is the pressure put to a woman by it GURU pastor to bring their men in the church.
How many time the massages of contributions money for the church came through your wife or girl friend?

IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE THAT THE BRAIN IS CONTROLE BY IT GURU PASTOR, YOU WILL JUST BE LIVING WITH EMPTY BODY
IN THE HOUSE, WITH MIND CONTROLLED BY ANOTHER PERSON.(GURU,PASTOR)
No matter how you love the person, you are in danger.Anything could happen at anytime.
Our ancestors were animist. they were believing to themselves and to real things in their Nature. (stone,trees, mountain ect..)
And they love themselves and they enjoyed their lives without Christianity and Muslim religion.

Since they have been tricked by westerners and Arabs to adopt Christianity and Muslim religion, All Africa had become a mess.
Because the religion has been used to control the brain of our leaders and our people.
BY THE WAY WHY RELIGIOUS GROUPS ARE EXPANDING IN AFRICA WHILE DYING IN THE WESTERN WORLD?
why churches are empty in UK, CANDA,France Denmark ect....? while they are full in Africa ?
Only one answers to these questions " THE LYE, THE TRICK,IS STILL WORKING ONLY IN AFRICA"

The ignorance with these Christians is so alarming. Very very alarming.

All just for something you cannot see, You put up a thread like this?

OP, tell me how you are better than a Racist?

Maybe you should read about your Christianity and the role it played in WWII against Jews.

hopefulLandlord:


you've lost track of my Posts

my point is that you may never know whom an atheist is in real life especially in an ultra religious country like ours

have you ever wondered why there are so many atheists on Nairaland and you rarely meet them in real life? because they are in your churches, they might be sitting beside you during services, they might be the ones to hold your hands and pray when the pastor says so, that pastor might be a closet atheist too

those examples of preachers just details some who were regarded as "born again" by their fellow Christians, not one Christian knew they were atheists until they came out

its you who needs to comprehend my posts better

This is a very valid point. We have a country where keeping up with the Jones's is a normal thing. Trying to blend in & go with flow. If you cannot beat them, join them mentality.
As of today, looking at how rotten our society is, and yet everyone is a pastor, deacon/ness, Haji/a, mallam, one can conclude that only very few practice what their religion instructs.

Surprisingly, the one who does not fool himself or fool others by saying he's an atheist might actually personally subscribe to far superior humanitarian ethos & morality. But being different from the mainstream of zeitgeist is enough to earn you the tag of evil.
Yes, you can say it is not just by deeds, it is by holy spirit, grace & salvation. But who knows who will actually make heaven/paradise until the very end?

I remember preaching on the streets as a kid. Back then, some people were still openly pagan. Those pagans often proudly & openly explain the logic & origins of their worship. Even though we disagreed, most just wanted to pray for protection, favour & progress using the gods as messengers to the almighty. Yet they were roundly dismissed as evil. Atheists face same issue.

Most atheists acknowledge and even like the moral teachings of the religions. They just do not believe that such basic instructions on love/morality/humanitarianism needed to come from a higher heavenly Being for humans to espouse them. Since many atheists in classical antiquity already put forward more or less similar values for mankind & society.
For us Christians to understand ourselves better, we need to listen to the views of others: pagans, atheists, other faiths, etc.

Because if you really want them to see your point & maybe even become Christians, a high horse, holier-than-thou & dismissive attitude is hardly helpful.

Some of the most blessed saints were previously non-believers. Apostle Paul comes to mind.

Seun:
"Why No Atheist Should Ever Marry A Christian Lady!!"


"Unless you are ready to be a Christian yourself, don't ever believe you guys will be able to tolerate each other for long. Forget about the 'bullshit' about both of you, loving yourselves and being tolerant to one another. That assertion can never work. How can you spend your life with somebody who holds a 'belief' which is delusional and plain foolishness?"


"How can you train your children with such a woman's help? What if she decides that her children will become Christians too? What will happen when she insists that both of you must pray in order to come together as a family? Do you think you can tolerate her pastors or church members visiting you in your house?"


"Avoid Christians like plagues. Don't ever think you can change or convert her, once you people are married. There is no good quality that any Christian possesses, that is not found among the atheist ladies. Just search hard and you will find good unbeliever that will give you more happiness than any Christian can ever think of giving you."

PS: This is what an intolerant atheist might say; it's not my personal opinion.

brother I see you spitting fire on multiple religious threads at once. yeah, I know, you were trying to prove a point to the OP in this case by parroting what he said. but i think these arguments arent helping you - they are taking you to a place where you your objectivity, and hence your heart come into question. i think you should take a break from these type of threads.

Atheists are normal humans, they don't just believe in worshipping anything as they believe it doesn't exist.

Been an atheist doesn't make one irresponsible, it doesn't mean there is no good and evil, success or failure, it only means that there is no supreme being anywhere.

Let's come to think of it, the Bible and our pastors make us to believe that God loves us more than our earthly parents but many people have been wallowing In abject poverty and penury but God has refused to answer them, is that fair.

If God is powerful and can do anything coupled with the love he has for us, then he wouldn't even allow anyone suffer because the kind of love my father has for me he will never allow me go through pain.

Secondly, Christians believe that only those who come through Jesus will go to heaven then I ask myself a simple question where are the Muslims Going? Because someone who understands the teaching of Christianity and Islam will know that we are not worshipping the same God sincerely.

Why is it that 90% of prayers don't get answered, if not we pray everyday, infact only the prayers from Shiloh and Redemption camp yearly is enough to make Nigeria the best County in this world.

Why is it that celestial don't marry from Catholic Christ Embassy from Catholic and so on and they claim they worship the same God.
Why has hatred and jealous exist even among Christians who always claim holiness and all that

Lastly, that you go to church doesn't make you a Christian, there are witches and wizards inside the choir, many pastors are in worldly cults and all that, even the Bible says the lukewarm will be condemned and worse than unbelievers.

Am Atheists believe in doing the right thing without all this religious baggage, being an atheist is not believing in evil

shadeyinka:


I must confess that I respect you and your fiancée for your discission to marry each other. I am not a pessimist but, the only way your marriage will last is either you become a Christian or she becomes an Atheist.

One of the strong flash point you will encounter is children upbringing.

Ask her if she wouldn't mind that you raise some of your children as Atheist and checkout her reply.

If she says its OK with her, then know for sure that she is either not a Christian or she has an ulterior motive for loving you.

Would you mind if she raises your children as "Christians "? If she is a Christian as you say, she would not be comfortable with the idea that her children will be lost in eternity.

I am a marriage counselor. Love and understanding is necessary for a good Marriage but communication sustains it. Have you done the necessary communication? You'll thank me later.

My Respect Sir

Ma'am, most atheists were raised as believers. They still grew up to be atheist. i don't think that's an issue at all

This is senseless. The entire post in itself. Why should I runaway from someone coz of his belief? I am in a relationship with an atheist and it's been the best 2 years of my life. Why should I hate him and avoid him like a plague because he doesn't believe in what I believe?

Op Abeg shift.

[b][/b]I see why humanity cant live in peace

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Ishilove:
The kind of ignorant bullshit and blasphemy I'm reading here is part of the reasons why I avoid the religion section. There's just so much filth one can swallow.

To the profane, all things are profane. Thinking themselves, they became fools.

I will keep guarding my heart diligently.

Continue guarding your mind against reason too .