Abrantie:

"When will Nigerians take over Nigeria?",


Hahahaha, classic!

I am not surprised you find this funny but the truth , if you care to look for for it , is that "Nigerians are taking over Nigeria" when the same cannot be said for many other Africans. When South Africa brought us  viewing entertainment with DSTV and telecom services with MTN how did Nigerians react? Did we beg our Government to kick out the South Africans?

No !!!! Instead of just accepting unfair monopolistic trade or begging our Government to 'intervene' we developed our own competitive viewing entertainment network with HiTV and Adenuga waded into telecoms with Globacom!!!!! Many things are wrong with Nigeria but some of you should know that Nigerians still retain the business intelligence and bravery that sees them prefer to rise up to a challenge and prove themselves.  Bring anything to Nigeria , and before long, Nigerians will attempt to deal in it themselves. Other Africans , on the other hand , may be comfortable 'importing' forever. When you have those qualities Nigerians have , naturally, others will hate you for it.

http://www.hitv.com.ng/

which Nigerians are taking over Africa?

na lie.

the same nigeria thats threatening to break up any moment?

besides, you'd have to beat libya, SA and some other countries to it.

tpia.:

which Nigerians are taking over Africa?

na lie.
the same nigeria thats threatening to break up any moment?

besides, you'd have to beat libya, SA and some other countries to it.

"Taking over" are the wrong choice of words but I think the general point of the article is that Nigerians have no qualms with attempting to thrive outside Nigeria. We , unlike others, cannot be intimidated into "knowing our place" simply because we are not at home. That is something many Africans resent about us .

It is not about "beating" anyone either. Our countrymen trading outside Nigeria , regardless of what anyone says , is a good thing and a template for global greatness when we get our act together politically. The main point is that Nigerians ,unlike many other Africans , have the will to go beyond our borders with various endeavours. The fact is that those 'endeavours' , even as many disagree , are mainly positive. Imagine what could be achieved with an efficient Nigerian Government backing our enterpreneurs home and abroad like we see with the USA !!!!!

Imagine what could be achieved with an efficient Nigerian Government backing our enterpreneurs home and abroad like we see with the USA

Exactly. This is a major strategy of china- if you have noticed, most of the chinese companies purchasing foreign companies are state-owned companies- they use money borrowed from the government to drive their acquisitions.

at least one good news about my beloved country

Gbawe:

I am not surprised you find this funny but the truth , if you care to look for for it , is that "Nigerians are taking over Nigeria" when the same cannot be said for many other Africans. When South Africa brought us  viewing entertainment with DSTV and telecom services with MTN how did Nigerians react? Did we beg our Government to kick out the South Africans?

No !!!! Instead of just accepting unfair monopolistic trade or begging our Government to 'intervene' we developed our own competitive viewing entertainment network with HiTV and Adenuga waded into telecoms with Globacom!!!!! Many things are wrong with Nigeria but some of you should know that Nigerians still retain the business intelligence and bravery that sees them prefer to rise up to a challenge and prove themselves.  Bring anything to Nigeria , and before long, Nigerians will attempt to deal in it themselves. Other Africans , on the other hand , may be comfortable 'importing' forever. When you have those qualities Nigerians have , naturally, others will hate you for it.

http://www.hitv.com.ng/

Agreed !!!

But please replace hitv with something else in ur post

SEFAGO:

Exactly. This is a major strategy of china- if you have noticed, most of the chinese companies purchasing foreign companies are state-owned companies- they use money borrowed from the government to drive their acquisitions.

Don't compare Nigeria with China ever again.

yeah, i know but we could one day be on the verge of being a superpower . There is always hope

SEFAGO:

yeah, i know but we could one day be on the verge of being a superpower  . There is always hope

With the help of a dictator who would force unity and an idea of common decent, yes. With the current state of things Nigeria is only the super power in failure, in short a super powered engine with parts that don't fit properly so it's in reverse.

China was united by an emperor who's mission and agenda was backed by the message of common decent which the kingdoms had in the first place. They have been in this 'game' for 100's of years, Nigeria is a country created by some bored rich white men around 100 years ago.

This Charles of a guy has a mission.

ezeagu:

With the help of a dictator who would force unity and an idea of common decent, yes. With the current state of things Nigeria is only the super power in failure, in short a super powered engine with parts that don't fit properly so it's in reverse.

China was united by an emperor who's mission and agenda was backed by the message of common decent which the kingdoms had in the first place. They have been in this 'game' for 100's of years, Nigeria is a country created by some bored rich white men around 100 years ago.

How many reasons do they need to see and understand that Nigeria as a country can not be better than it's now

right, they are taking over africa abi,and they would soon take over d world too but in wat aspect good,bad, or d corrupt.

why do nigerians love a lie,first its a rumor then its a confirmed rumor them d confirmed rumor
spreads as truth before u very eyes then u start to doubt urself and believe ur own lie,or hv'nt u heard 'drogba(aderogba dada),eto,tiger woods,opra winfre,rice,50cent,rkelly,nas(nasiru),chamillionaire and even obamo all originated 4rm nigeria, ehe naija

^^^^

are u drunk? over there

can u see the key board u typin from clearly

xpress:

right, they are taking over africa abi,and they would soon take over d world too but in wat aspect good,bad, or d corrupt.

why do nigerians love a lie,first its a rumor then its a confirmed rumor them d confirmed rumor
spreads as truth before u very eyes then u start to doubt urself and believe your own lie,or hv'nt u heard 'drogba(aderogba dada),eto,tiger woods,opra winfre,rice,50cent,rkelly,nas(nasiru),chamillionaire and even obamo all originated 4rm nigeria, ehe naija

ikeyman00:

^^^^

are u drunk? over there

can u see the key board u typin from clearly

nna, see matta. _{naija 4 life!}

emyah:

How many reasons do they need to see and understand that Nigeria as a country can not be better than it's now

Fellow Nigerians do you now see what I keep warning about ? A South African emboldened by the self-hatred we display on these pages to the extent that he can now make the above statement which amounts to no less than a curse against our nation!!!  Who believes that we do not have leaders that can make Nigeria vastly better than it is? You guys can carry on encouraging those who hate us and wish to ensure we hate and doubt ourselves or you can open your eyes and see that we are potentially great and that our problems are surmountable with all hands on deck.

No objective person can say "Nigeria can not be better than it is now". That is a totally asinine statement bereft of logic. I bow at the utterances some non-Nigerians are getting away with on this forum. I know many of us no longer believe in Nigeria but this is ridiculous !!!!! Haba !!!!!!

I believe Nigeria will grow and become more prosperous than at present.

Statistics have it that at of every 5 black people in the world 1 is a Nigerian.
sure,Nigeria will make history untold in no time.
Just going to the promise land.

Gbawe:

You are agreeing with patently wrong reasoning ? Are Nigerians doing wrong for wanting to trade outside Nigeria in the spirit of globalisation? I guess it is fine when the USA sells everything to the world from Rap, porn to Hamburgers and acceptable for the Chinese to be everywhere in large numbers but "charity begins at home" when it comes to Nigeria and Nigerians. Nigerians should start inspecting the mischief-driven views of Non-Nigerians before agreeing with those views . We are a much maligned people but In this day and age of globalisation , where an ability to trade beyonds one's own border is a highly desirable quality , only a hateful , fearful or inadequate person will tell you that we should "stay in Nigeria" .

We should rightly feel shame for our negative export like 419 but let us not become brainwashed into self-hatred enough so that we start agreeing with non-Nigerians that our good qualities are bad and that we do no good beyond the borders of Nigeria. better that those telling Nigerians to stay in Nigeria address their own shortcomings and deficiencies that sees them unable to even dominate their own local business and trading enviroment instead of a fruitless attempt to attack qualities Nigerians have that the intelligent World deem desirable.

The World is becoming more of a global village. Nations will not be turned into closed forthresses because citizens fail to take advantage of local opportunities. Globalisation is inevitable. Those who are visionary will realise this. I am personally happy that we have no qualms trading beyond our borders. That is a quality that will be priceless when we begin to get our act together as a nation.We should not encourage those who want to pretend everything we export is bad when the actual truth , for anyone who actually cares to find out , could not be more different.

Ha! all that for me??  Ok, on a serious note, I see what you're saying as I am an example of one of those Nigerians making it beyond the borders of Nigeria. Kudos to all Nigerians doing so, I am very much not a proponent of the notion that Nigerians should stay in Nigeria even if it yields no personal benefits. My problem is with the topic title jare don't mind me. While Nigerians may be one of the most ambitious Africans, the government is still nothing to write home about. So it's pretty much still a wreck.

But ah ok, lemme not be too critical, I'll recognize the little progress in the name of "taking over Africa". I'm not being sarcastic, if you're thinking that. 

chiogo:

Ha! all that for me?? Ok, on a serious note, I see what you're saying as I am an example of one of those Nigerians making it beyond the borders of Nigeria. Kudos to all Nigerians doing so, I am very much not a proponent of the notion that Nigerians should stay in Nigeria even if it yields no personal benefits. My problem is with the topic title jare don't mind me. While Nigerians may be one of the most ambitious Africans, the government is still nothing to write home about. So it's pretty much still a wreck.

But ah ok, lemme not be too critical, I'll recognize the little progress in the name of "taking over Africa". I'm not being sarcastic, if you're thinking that.

My brother/sister I have a problem with the topic title also and I stated that previously but the wrong choice of words sould not obscure the main message of the article :

"Taking over" are the wrong choice of words but I think the general point of the article is that Nigerians have no qualms with attempting to thrive outside Nigeria. We , unlike others, cannot be intimidated into "knowing our place" simply because we are not at home. That is something many Africans resent about us .

Ah, cool. I didn't read your previous posts. Makes sense now.

Gbawe:

You are agreeing with patently wrong reasoning ? Are Nigerians doing wrong for wanting to trade outside Nigeria in the spirit of globalisation? I guess it is fine when the USA sells everything to the world from Rap, porn to Hamburgers and acceptable for the Chinese to be everywhere in large numbers but "charity begins at home" when it comes to Nigeria and Nigerians. Nigerians should start inspecting the mischief-driven views of Non-Nigerians before agreeing with those views . We are a much maligned people but In this day and age of globalisation , where an ability to trade beyonds one's own border is a highly desirable quality , only a hateful , fearful or inadequate person will tell you that we should "stay in Nigeria" .

We should rightly feel shame for our negative export like 419 but let us not become brainwashed into self-hatred enough so that we start agreeing with non-Nigerians that our good qualities are bad and that we do no good beyond the borders of Nigeria. better that those telling Nigerians to stay in Nigeria address their own shortcomings and deficiencies that sees them unable to even dominate their own local business and trading enviroment instead of a fruitless attempt to attack qualities Nigerians have that the intelligent World deem desirable.

The World is becoming more of a global village. Nations will not be turned into closed forthresses because citizens fail to take advantage of local opportunities. Globalisation is inevitable. Those who are visionary will realise this. I am personally happy that we have no qualms trading beyond our borders. That is a quality that will be priceless when we begin to get our act together as a nation.We should not encourage those who want to pretend everything we export is bad when the actual truth , for anyone who actually cares to find out , could not be more different.

As much as you sometimes have a point you indulge in too many half truths, taking things out of context and misrepresentations. You are always picking inapplicable examples to back your invalid points.

Charity begins at home. If you don’t believe me read up on the importance of indigenisation in economics and also assess highly respected Michael Porter’s diamond theory. I hate to sound academic but you leave me no choice.

Can’t you see that America’s expansion was fundamentally different? Talking about burger king and Mcdonalds remember all these are not just symbols of America expanding but more importantly the success of corporate America in America. When did India become a force to reckon with? Indians have been far more aggressive business wise than Nigerians have ever been for decades but they only became a force a few years ago when its Government took full advantage of outsourcing and also developed the right IT strategy. Until then India was a hell hole that had some innovative individuals plain and simple. Progress begins at home. Quite simply taxation, restrictions on repatriation of profits, having to employ from the host country and even ownership laws makes expansion inappropriate as the main tool for nation building

Patting yourself on the back because action was taken to compete with DSTV, which is an isolated story as usual. What action was taken when the lack of basic infrastructure led to investments leaving to “lesser” nations? Or when education which is the back bone of development deteriorated and Nigerians had to go to Neighbouring countries for education? The answer Nothing, but these are the issues that matter.

The article which is patronising by the way, at best is stating a fact that we have known for ever, that Nigerians are intelligent. But so what if that was all that was needed Russia would be the greatest country.

A country that is more than capable of being a Malaysia or at least an India celebrating and calling others jealous because they end up on a list with Somalia a close second.

I hear say Nigeria dey get worse everyday,No job,No electricity,No gas,No air to breath,No security,Bad health care services,No law,No human right,why you maggots are so happy about this shit thread,you guys are talking about taking over africa,they are chinese of africa?but i have to tell you that there is abundant job in china,we need to invest at home first,be comfortable at home before we can invest abroad and that is exactly what white people normally does,as for the investment abroad,don't you think,our money laundering politicians are investing abroad because they don't want nigerians to know their worth,what is good about investing abroad when your people are suffering at home?i hear say ADENUGA DEY LIVE IN GHANA because of EFCC,nigeria is running down and promoting economic of other african nations,we need to be carefull,and yes we are slaves arround the world,our people arround the world are sweeping snow,clean shit etc,and just last night the weather was -4 degree,can you guys imagine snow everywhere,even my electric blanket was getting cold?we nigerians abroad really want to be home but there is nothing at home,you guys should think about the future of nigeria not about those hearthless people investing abroad.

Wot do you mean economic power.

PAININASS:

I hear say Nigeria dey get worse everyday,No job,No electricity,No gas,No air to breath,No security,Bad health care services,No law,No human right,why you maggots are so happy about this shit thread,you guys are talking about taking over africa,they are chinese of africa?but i have to tell you that there is abundant job in china,we need to invest at home first,be comfortable at home before we can invest abroad and that is exactly what white people normally does,as for the investment abroad,don't you think,our money laundering politicians are investing abroad because they don't want  nigerians to know their worth,what is good about investing abroad when your people are suffering at home?i hear say ADENUGA DEY LIVE IN GHANA because of EFCC,nigeria is running down and promoting economic of other african nations,we need to be carefull,and yes we are slaves arround the world,our people arround the world are sweeping snow,clean shit etc,and just last night the weather was -4 degree,can you guys imagine snow everywhere,even my electric blanket was getting cold?we nigerians abroad really want to be home but there is nothing at home,you guys should think about the future of nigeria not about those hearthless people investing abroad.

That is straight to the point my brother. Globalisation is not a substitute for Nation Building.

You people will keep arguing and breaking your heads against the wall until you realise Nigeria's problem is about national unity, which is lacking in Nigeria because Nigeria is not a nation. Most Nigerians have comma in their identity, Nigerian igbo where as every other successful indigenous country in the world don't have this because it is a threat to the populations loyalty to a state, not to talk of the fact that they don't need this dual identity because their state is the same as their nation. Keep arguing and lamenting over everything until you guys get it. [size=18pt]This country was created by some bored rich white men.[/size]

Gbawe:

I am not surprised you find this funny but the truth , if you care to look for for it , is that "Nigerians are taking over Nigeria" when the same cannot be said for many other Africans. When South Africa brought us  viewing entertainment with DSTV and telecom services with MTN how did Nigerians react? Did we beg our Government to kick out the South Africans?

No !!!! Instead of just accepting unfair monopolistic trade or begging our Government to 'intervene' we developed our own competitive viewing entertainment network with HiTV and Adenuga waded into telecoms with Globacom!!!!! Many things are wrong with Nigeria but some of you should know that Nigerians still retain the business intelligence and bravery that sees them prefer to rise up to a challenge and prove themselves.  Bring anything to Nigeria , and before long, Nigerians will attempt to deal in it themselves. Other Africans , on the other hand , may be comfortable 'importing' forever. When you have those qualities Nigerians have , naturally, others will hate you for it.

http://www.hitv.com.ng/

Firstly Nigeria has done its fair share of protectionism and "unfair monopolistic" trade whatever that means. Secondly Nigeria like most other African nations is very much a net exporter and even has a less diversified economy than some if you care to know. So here you go calling pigeon steps giant steps again.

Bennyboy11:

As much as you sometimes have a point you indulge in too many half truths, taking things out of context and misrepresentations. You are always picking inapplicable examples to back your invalid points.

Charity begins at home. If you don’t believe me read up on the importance of indigenisation in economics and also assess highly respected Michael Porter’s diamond theory. I hate to sound academic but you leave me no choice.

Can’t you see that America’s expansion was fundamentally different? Talking about burger king and Mcdonalds remember all these are not just symbols of America expanding but more importantly the success of corporate America in America. When did India become a force to reckon with? Indians have been far more aggressive business wise than Nigerians have ever been for decades but they only became a force a few years ago when its Government took full advantage of outsourcing and also developed the right IT strategy. Until then India was a hell hole that had some innovative individuals plain and simple. Progress begins at home. Quite simply taxation, restrictions on repatriation of profits, having to employ from the host country and even ownership laws makes expansion inappropriate as the main tool for nation building    

Patting yourself on the back because action was taken to compete with DSTV, which is an isolated story as usual. What action was taken when the lack of basic infrastructure led to investments leaving to “lesser” nations? Or when education which is the back bone of development deteriorated and Nigerians had to go to Neighbouring countries for education? The answer Nothing, but these are the issues that matter.  

The article which is patronising by the way, at best is stating a fact that we have known for ever, that Nigerians are intelligent. But so what if that was all that was needed Russia would be the greatest country.

A country that is more than capable of being a Malaysia or at least an India celebrating and calling others jealous because they end up on a list with Somalia a close second.  

I hate to agree with you but I have to. I also agree with some of the points that Gbawe is making. However, it is difficult to make much progress abroad without first putting your house in other. In the 80s when globalidation started to take form, General Electric under Welch did not delve into the global market. Welch's reasoning was that he had to put his house in order in order to be able to pursue opportunities in the global market. So what did he do, he restructured GE first and then made it lean and agile so as to be able to compete with Japanese and European firms.

While it is through that some progress is being made by some Nigerians, it is progress that is still being impeded by a lack of a strong united front and infrastructure in Nigeria. Further progress will come from a substantial reduction in fraudulent practises, investment in durable infrastructure, changing of internal mindsets, and stable democracy

ezeagu:

You people will keep arguing and breaking your heads against the wall until you realise Nigeria's problem is about national unity, which is lacking in Nigeria because Nigeria is not a nation. Most Nigerians have comma in their identity, Nigerian igbo where as every other successful indigenous country in the world don't have this because it is a threat to the populations loyalty to a state, not to talk of the fact that they don't need this dual identity because their state is the same as their nation. Keep arguing and lamenting over everything until you guys get it. [size=18pt]This country was created by some bored rich white men.[/size]

You are correct, until we become united, our rate of progress will be limited severely.

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i think fundamentally nigeria problem has always be leadership issues!!

the whole world i think that understand what leadership meant will agree with that

Obama has already did? but has Ezagu,becomrich etc

we always know what the bane of wahala

how can a country like nigeria driven by few bastard in abuja

Bennyboy11:

As much as you sometimes have a point you indulge in too many half truths, taking things out of context and misrepresentations. You are always picking inapplicable examples to back your invalid points.

Charity begins at home. If you don’t believe me read up on the importance of indigenisation in economics and also assess highly respected Michael Porter’s diamond theory. I hate to sound academic but you leave me no choice.

Can’t you see that America’s expansion was fundamentally different? Talking about burger king and Mcdonalds remember all these are not just symbols of America expanding but more importantly the success of corporate America in America. When did India become a force to reckon with? Indians have been far more aggressive business wise than Nigerians have ever been for decades but they only became a force a few years ago when its Government took full advantage of outsourcing and also developed the right IT strategy. Until then India was a hell hole that had some innovative individuals plain and simple. Progress begins at home. Quite simply taxation, restrictions on repatriation of profits, having to employ from the host country and even ownership laws makes expansion inappropriate as the main tool for nation building

Patting yourself on the back because action was taken to compete with DSTV, which is an isolated story as usual. What action was taken when the lack of basic infrastructure led to investments leaving to “lesser” nations? Or when education which is the back bone of development deteriorated and Nigerians had to go to Neighbouring countries for education? The answer Nothing, but these are the issues that matter.
The article which is patronising by the way, at best is stating a fact that we have known for ever, that Nigerians are intelligent. But so what if that was all that was needed Russia would be the greatest country.

A country that is more than capable of being a Malaysia or at least an India celebrating and calling others jealous because they end up on a list with Somalia a close second.

My friend, I don't deal in half truths. You do with how you never understand fully what you are talking about. On previous threads I have shown that you love commenting about Nigeria when you don't understand its 'unique' and self-inflicted problems that could be resolved fairly easily with genuine political will. Here you are showing the same ignorance of the real state of affairs in Nigeria vis a vis cause and effects.

Minus Government interference, Nigerian private entities do well and distinguish themselves amongst their continental peers. Nigerian private entities also demonstrate the will to innovate not entirely common accross Africa. Infrastructure , education , public services for example, are woeful because of inept leadership at the Federal Government level. Inept leadership is secured and perpetuated because of the lack of electoral fairness i.e Nigerians do not get the chance to elect proven leaders who will facilitate the development and progress we can secure rapidly with our manpower and material endowment. The skills of leadership and enterpreneurship still resides in Nigerians regardless of the ineptitude that ensures those qualities are not harmonised to produce national greatness.

You simply don't know as much as you should on Nigeria and I don't think I have enough time to become a teacher to anyone. Non-Nigerians incessantly taunt Nigeria with how w produce oil yet import petrol but do you know that that situation is about to change with how Nigeria is about to deregulate its petroleum sector completely to facilite efficiency and profitability with how the removal of government subsidy  plus the involvement of private , and thus profit-led , players will make Nigeria exponentially greater profit as per how the sale of refined products (when importation used to be the case) will increase immensely. We will simply be refining efficiently what we produce. Is this Rocket Science? Should it not have been done ages ago? Long story short things are not done when they should be because of vested interest. It was the same fo Ghana. Now that things are being done correctly Ghana is moving in the right direction. When our leaders begin to do things properly Nigeians , becuase of the inherent industrious spirit they possess , will secure growth exponentially greater than others have secured in simiar time frame. That is what I hint at when I point that Nigerians trading well outside our border is something to praise .

bennyboy

Firstly Nigeria has done its fair share of protectionism and "unfair monopolistic" trade whatever that means. Secondly Nigeria like most other African nations is very much a net exporter and even has a less diversified economy than some if you care to know. So here you go calling pigeon steps giant steps again.

fundamentally; i think its paramount u argue along the line with the subject

with the world of survival the fittest, its necessary that nigerians stand up and be counted for the cause of known?

ikeyman00:

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i think fundamentally nigeria problem has always be leadership issues!!

the whole world i think that understand what leadership meant will agree with that

Obama has already did? but has Ezagu,becomrich etc

we always know what the bane of wahala

how can a country like nigeria driven by few bastard in abuja

You will keep repeating the popular opinion until you lose the ability to think at all. Where does the leadership come from, is it not the population? Is it not also the population along with the environment that creates leadership and keeps tabs on them. Keep waiting for the Nigerian Obama (what has Obama done in the first place?). Your waiting for good leadership okwa ya? Keep waiting for hell to produce an Angel.

Some people would rather take the safe road and follow what they heard most people say than sitting down and thinking for themselves. That is why you go around and insult Yoruba and Hausa people and then have the nerve to come and preach "One Nigeria" to us. Confusion because your thoughts are not your own.