GRIMMJOE:
@ bolded God is the master of rape go and ask Mary,the mother of a bastard

felixomor1:


"God is the beginning" does not imply "God must have a beginning"

Pidggin:


You reason like a man devoid of spiritual insight. Humble yourself and learn before trying to engage in arguments on subjects you know absolutely nothing about.

Let me help you out a bit. If you study the scriptures you will find out that by the power of the Spirit of God Himself we can do all that He expects of us, yes even you can look at a lady without lusting after her if you have His Spirit. When the Spirit directs your life then you don't need to worry about sin or laws, it will be a normal thing for you.


Jesus had to start somewhere, God chose Isreal so who are we to question Him? When Peter denied Jesus three times, he asked for forgiveness and repented when Judah betrayed Jesus even though he became remorseful, he took his own life without anyone reprimanding him, who do you blame for his choice? Jesus or himself?

You need understanding

otemanuduno:
dont muddle things up... no god have the power to create earth, only the ALMIGHTY GOD can do that. All the gods you have ever heard of were formally beings made by the Almighty God to do findings of the unlimited universe he created, but majority of these beings(now deified as gods) decided to put themselves in the place of the ALMIGHTY GOD. Some of those beings who put themselves in the place of the Almighty God are Vishnu, Yahweh(Satan), Odin, Lar-gas(Allah), Gaol, etc. However, the scribes help put some gods in the place of Almighty God, e.g Atum(my god), Olorun(god of odualand), Chuku, etc. But Atum didn't join the evil gods such as Yahweh to lie to the world that he is the creator of it. Instead, he is revealing to us the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, where the true GOD is being revealed from the time when he made the universe through a Big Bang. Atum is the god of civilization. You can make your research about that.

GOD ALMIGHTY IS NOT MY god, ATUM IS MY god, same way Yahweh could be your own god.
GOD ALMIGHTY IS OUR GOD; God OF ALL. WE CAN'T PERSONALISE HIM. HE IS US, BECAUSE HE LIVES IN US ALL, ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BRAINITES, etc.

THERE IS NO DISCRIMINATION WITH THE ALMIGHTY GOD, THE CREATOR OF YAHWEH(your god), Atum(my god) and Lar-gas(Allah their god).

skywalker001:
Your proof @bolded... Remember your book state it that god is d beginning and the end, so how com he has no beginning again ? Are you even reading your book ?

chrisooblog:
but you are also just as guilty because you assume your atheism is the logical way to go

Alhajipablo:
what is larga?this is d first time I'm seeing you attribute it to any God

Raydos:
i want to ask three questions!


(1) how often do you fast?


(2) do you pray at least 10times a day?


(3) do you distance yourself from sin?


you don't do all these things and you expect GOD to show itself to you! - scientists have tried their best to find where GOD is really is but all to no avail so they conclude that there's no GOD!


just because people Don't see GOD Face to face so they have a mere intuition that GOD Doesn't exist - but funny enough you people have never seen devil in person yet you believe he exist, every bad thing that happen to you, you believe its always the handiwork of devil.

try to do all those 3 aforementioned list up there, and i asure you that GOD will see you in spirit and he will make you understand everything.

i am a living testimony

dorox:

The beginning and the end of what? Or are you saying that God will end someday according to your understanding of that bible quote?
Since the bible has always maintained that God is immortal, in what way do you think he is the end?

raphieMontella:

seems you didnt pay attention to the initial quote..

chrisooblog:
correct me if i'm wrong his statement is a criticism of all religions. that each one assumes his way is right ignoring the thousands of other beliefs which he feels is arrogant right? so i am just using the same argument about atheists that is it not also arrogant to assume your belief about the nonexistence of God is right.

faorex:
I thought i am the only one this is happeninig to.i might have to quit nairaland because of it's making me an atheist small small.but something in me keeps telling me that Allah still exist.and i dont want to be lost finally .Robisidin Illimi..Allahu Allam.

skywalker001:
Are you kidding me ? U said somtin is the beginning and u stil saying he doesn't hav to hav a beginning... Read wat u wrote up there again and again and see if it makes any sense @all

felixomor1:


Even a kid can make sense of it.

The first sentence talks about the universe.

The second sentence talks about God Himself.

I guess ur grammar comprehension has not reached this level.

Sorry

Akdegreat:


Yes I agree with you. But I was an 'active' Christian. I was captain in our children department then. I participated and represented RCCG East 1 province in children's bible quiz severally, even at National convention in the camp. I was an active chorister. I used to sweep and clean the church premises every Saturday with my parents and siblings. Anyone who knows me can attest.

skywalker001:
"god is the beginning does not implies god has a beginning", that's wat u wrote earlier. so tell me how universe comes out of this statement or how wat u wrote up there clearly explain it... hav u seen u'r d 1 dat is clueless about what u're saying

skywalker001:
because your god(yahweh) is a god created by Almighty God. The reason he's called d beginning and d end in your book is because he's among the 1st homos(gods) that was created by almighty god and that is his beginning and he's gonna av an end because yahweh is not d real God

dorox:


So, going by your initial contention, how did this almighty God come about?

felixomor1:


From ur insistence on that statement, I can already deduce ur level of academia, sorry to say.

Statement 1: "God is the beginning"
A reasonable person would have asked

"Beginning of what?"
And the answer is simple.
Beginning of the universe.
Universe is time, space and matter.
Moreover "beginning',"end" etc are all calibrations of time.

Statement 2: "God has a beginning'
This one the subject being discussed is God.
It is a fallacy.
Why because "beginning" is a calibration of time and time was created by God.
U cant use what is created by me to calibrate me because i already was, before that thing came to be.

skywalker001:
I would have love to continue with you but when it comes to insult i tink u'r out of line. U did it first time and i ignore it but doing it again shows u'r immatured cos u would have stil mak ur point without insult. It shows how arrogant your religion is... shalom

Barney11:
THERE IS GOD!

felixomor1:


God needs no creator.
Beginning, end, creation, destruction are all calibrations of time, space and matter.
God created time, so He exists out of it.
He is timeless. He is eternal

MrMystrO:


Wisdom untouched!

kolaish:
Be factual, who was the first man and woman? Adam and Eve or do you have a contrary answer. So, since then and now all the stories of adam, eve, abraham, isaac, jacob, king david, moses, jeremiah, job, isaiah and others are mere fabrication according to you. IF I MAY ASK, WHY WILL ALL THESE PEOPLE FABRICATE STORIES? SOME OF THEM ARE RICH ENOUGH TO DISOBEY ANYBODY'S INSTRUCTION. PLEASE WAKE UP TO THE REALITIES OF THE WORLD.

WITH DUE RESPECT.

GRIMMJOE:
Of all the Christian to tag wisdom untouched is the guy that claims the earth is circular and God is sitting on it

MrMystrO:


I am not a christian, my friend. You can check my posts on here, my views about religion is very clear. But i do Believe there is an Ultimate Entity, A causeless cause, A universal, multidimensional consciousness, Which is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other perspective and that is the joy of existence itself. But just know and always know that there is a source, an eternal infinite conciousness, and its just too easy finding it you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself. We all all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.
Understand things first in the best way you can first before you express your opinion or comments on them okay bruh, Its all love though, i'm sure your still a smart person anyway, Thanks for your quote.

TheSixthSense:
Your are in an illusion of deception but you don't even know it. Your New Age beliefs check the roots, the history and see if you can practice the pure form. There is a deity behind what you think is leading you to God.

ChykePryor:



All these don't mean you were a Christian, don't mean U practiced what u preached,
so far i can't even see prayer on it..

**Ok
1)I dunno how I'm going to go about it without hurting ur pre-programmed beliefs about religion but I'll try not to,

Firstly True Christians do not follow church nor their pastors...
The search for God can take you beyond ur church or religion, it's finding what works for you n gives u peace, Tim Cook that Apple guy was a Zen Buddhist, he found God in the way that seemed right to him,
Some find God in other religions
True Christians don't condemn but show love and are content in finding God through Christ

Firstly search for a denomination that finely divides the word of God without fear of reproach, seek the Holy Spirit to help u identify truth, "God's word" from Man's Imagination, so that u follow Jesus n not man, Ur a Christian n not a label, preach love, do good, be good, be responsible, pray n believe n see Jesus take over..


2)In the Old Testament, we were compelled to do things for God to be blessed but God is a god of Love n Sacrifice, he sacrificed his son Jesus to give us grace and redeem lost man, so now grace is Freewill not to sin but to know right from wrong,
We are not compelled to pay tithes we are not Jews, but we can give to support the ministry as a level of sacrifice, and we can give time as well, we do not give expecting like "The law of Tithing" we give because we love as Jesus loved n want to bring the music to the ears of others to soothe their hearts, Anyone who threatens you to pay n give n give to open the windows of heaven is operating under the law, not under Grace,
Grace began when the veil of the temple was split, we have Jesus now in us not in places of worship etc, the death of Jesus n the spilling of his blood opened all access to the Windows of heaven, We only need to ask n Believe n live in Christ


3) I do not believe i am mere Organic entity evolved over eons, but whatever external force that caused the big bang or brought other is worthy of being the force of creation, i know the atoms n electrons are tools used to contain our spirits n provide haven for our mortal bodies,
The order of the world is Entropy n Chaos, but God's hand shaped our bodies n our world, he is the forces that pushes n puts all things in motion, there will always be regression into entropy but it is the natural order of things, but how does it seem that in all the billions of galaxies n trillions of planets m stars, only the Milky way, it's star, Earth, her moon just support life best in this way,
Yes there will always be earthquakes, disease, Tsunamis but we lost perfect earth after the fall of man n Earth was plunged into Semi-entropy,
We will toil for what we want and the only things God will work with are the seeds in our hands, the unrighteous n godless will still prosper cos we're all on Earth n the principles of toiling n reaping still applies n God causes the rain to fall on the wicked n the Just..
I learnt a lot about biology n geology from the Awake n i still love n read that magazine,
God blessed many with you guys, many still found peace with u guys,


4)The concept of Prayer n Altars
Know what works for you n believe
I believe that when i pray i commit those natural laws of entropy into God's hands to maintain order, In a plane crash, bus accident, mass failure, I n d people around me are covered n sheltered because God took control,
Then continuous prayer breeds power, the concept of Altar, when u pray at a certain point n believe it is ur seat of answer whatever u pray is quickened etc,
When the King of Moab sacrificed his heir on the altar of Baal, the Chaos unleashed by the devil drove Israel God's chosen people away,
What should b on ur Altar, ?...Faith, sacrifice n time spent for God
Power against death, sickness n disappointments are the promises the blood of Jesus speak against.


5)Finally Bro, i know Jesus, he is the Word n Son of God, he gave us the presence of the Holy Spirit to do better things, that will improve our lives, all the Fathers of Physics were Christians n today the world is evolving because of them n d faith they had,
I've read a lot into Science n found everything to purposeful to deny or rebel against the presence of A God,
The Almighty God is the God of all, so he's Allah, Krishna, etc but Christians follow the teachings n ways of his Son who we believe is exalted far above the revelations of his name..
He won't come down, but he can walk the Earth in us, Christ in me the hope of Glory..


It's too easy to see Science's breakthrough n just give up on God,
Tough is holding on to Faith in the midst of all these, n still believing

It's safe to say by this point in ur life that if u don't believe in God, it's Alright He believes in you, just open up, look around n be thankful,
Either way Bro Agnosticism elicits the belief in a God but no proof or zeal to seek him out n, the belief that we can't really know him or understand him enough but I'm sure if u look closely you'll see him,

I don't mean to impose, just sharing my experience...
Either way i hope u find the peace u seek

felixomor1:


From ur insistence on that statement, I can already deduce ur level of academia, sorry to say.

Statement 1: "God is the beginning"
A reasonable person would have asked

"Beginning of what?"
And the answer is simple.
Beginning of the universe.
Universe is time, space and matter.
Moreover "beginning',"end" etc are all calibrations of time.

Statement 2: "God has a beginning'
This one the subject being discussed is God.
It is a fallacy.
Why because "beginning" is a calibration of time and time was created by God.
U cant use what is created by me to calibrate me because i already was, before that thing came to be.

I love this one. Its always a thing of great joy to hear people who are So enlightened and so close to the truth, I'm really impressed by your comments bro, And although we know we cannot comprehend the existence of this infinitely ever conscious being through the logic of the confines of our limited comprehension of our physical universe of space and time understanding of reality, Knowing that we cannot comprehend its existence is one of the most fundamental truths right now. Nice one Bro

MrMystrO:


I am not a christian, my friend. You can check my posts on here, my views about religion is very clear. But i do Believe there is an Ultimate Entity, A causeless cause, A universal, multidimensional consciousness, Which is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other perspective and that is the joy of existence itself. But just know and always know that there is a source, an eternal infinite conciousness, and its just too easy finding it you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself. We all all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.
Understand things first in the best way you can first before you express your opinion or comments on them okay bruh, Its all love though, i'm sure your still a smart person anyway, Thanks for your quote.

TheSixthSense:
Your are in an illusion of deception but you don't even know it. Your New Age beliefs check the roots, the history and see if you can practice the pure form. There is a deity behind what you think is leading you to God.