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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:17pm On Oct 25, 2016
Akdegreat:


Sorry, I had a belief, a strong one just like every other Christian born in a Christian home.

I lost my belief in God too as my knowledge about God grew . I don't believe God exists , I know God exists .

Pulling away from religion does not mean you are agnostic or an atheist , its more of deism . Even MrPresident1 , a savant of the scriptures , will tell you that God isn't in organized religion .

Never let the atheists inveigle you into becoming one of them . Atheism is darkness and mental slavery .

Remain blessed .

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Akdegreat, if you don't mind me asking, What denomination did you belong to? Protestant/Pentecostal?

RCCG precisely
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Scholar8200(m): 5:18pm On Oct 25, 2016
simplex2:
Welcome dear, you are at the right path of self-discovery. Only the truth shall set you free.







Pls stop answering their questions: they are looking for holes in your story so that they will start blabbing about how you were never a christian in the first place. Thats what they did to Hardmirror: its their usual style.
Relax, why should we not be interested?! This is the religious section and here is a thread of one (who says he used to be a devoted christian) who just expressed something he is going through, what then?

A religious person just came to the religious section to express his issues with religion, next atheist swarm around him to egg him on, is that not desperation?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 5:20pm On Oct 25, 2016
Akdegreat:


Yes I agree with you. But I was an 'active' Christian. I was captain in our children department then. I participated and represented RCCG East 1 province in children's bible quiz severally, even at National convention in the camp. I was an active chorister. I used to sweep and clean the church premises every Saturday with my parents and siblings. Anyone who knows me can attest.

I believe u brother.
I dont doubt u did these things.
I know u did them.
I dont even need proof. I believe.

But none of these things makes u a believer.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by TomHagen: 5:23pm On Oct 25, 2016
I can relate. I passed through every stage you did. I know better now.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:26pm On Oct 25, 2016
felixomor1:


I believe u brother.
I dont doubt u did these things.
I know u did them.
I dont even need proof. I believe.

But none of these things makes u a believer.

Are you trying to pull me into a debate about who a believer is?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 5:29pm On Oct 25, 2016
Akdegreat:


Are you trying to pull me into a debate about who a believer is?


No,
Please, answer Yes/No
Do you believe Jesus Christ lived, died and was raised by the power of the Holy Ghost for the saving of your sins?

If yes, when exactly were u convinced personally?

When did u make the confession?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:32pm On Oct 25, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Atheism is spreading all over the Nigeria, people are finally seeing through the veil of religion used to cover their eyes

Gross ignorance !

People pulling away from religion does not make anyone an atheist . Irreligion is not atheism grin

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by hopefulLandlord: 5:36pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Gross ignorance !

People pulling away from religion does not make anyone an atheist . Irreligion is not atheism grin


he's "losing his belief"

what does lacking belief in god(s) make one?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:39pm On Oct 25, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


he's "losing his belief"

what does lacking belief in god(s) make one?


I also lost my belief in God cool . Haven't I said it before that I lack the belief in God and I have knowledge of God . I don't believe God exists !
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:41pm On Oct 25, 2016
I believe you. You were a christian. I am still discovering Scriptural truths myself but I really think it has to do with your denomination because there are some, rather many, that thrive on ignorance and to remain a christian becomes an intellectual and moral struggle every moment of your being. I'm sure my guess is right. Anyway, I see even now you cannot completely say that 'there is no God' and I've realised that that is actually the most ignorant position anyone could take because as you accurately described 'compared to clerics, scientists better understood the awesomeness and magnificence of God' but just like anything else, there are intelligent clerics who base their faith on reason that welcome the kind of questions you had; and of course there are numerous other unintelligent ones who even if they see truth staring them in the face, just because it's in the bible, going by their interpretation, it becomes a lie. Cognitive dissonance at best. A priest calls them primitive people who think religious books dropped from the sky (more typical of illiterate muslims). At the mercy of such, christianity wouldn't have spurred technological advancements and many more would have been silenced. But there are even more unintelligent atheists that you will learn absolutely nothing but 'attack-christianity-because-you-have-become-an-atheist'

Good luck to you.
Akdegreat:


Sorry, I had a belief, a strong one just like every other Christian born in a Christian home.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by MrPresident1: 5:41pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I lost my belief in God too as my knowledge about God grew . I don't believe God exists , I know God exists .

Pulling away from religion does not mean you are agnostic or an atheist . Even MrPresident1 , a savant of the scriptures , will tell you that God isn't in organized religion .

Never let the atheists inveigle you into becoming one of them . Atheism is darkness and mental slavery .

Remain blessed .

True words brother. God is nowhere near organised religion. Organised religion is a cage, it is of satan.

The only religion that God recognises is

James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:42pm On Oct 25, 2016
TomHagen:
I can relate. I passed through every stage you did. I know better now.

grin

You are in the same stage as him . You are a deist in fact . Akdegreat will likely become a deist . grin
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:43pm On Oct 25, 2016
MrPresident1:


True words brother. God is nowhere near organised religion. Organised religion is a cage, it is of satan.

The only religion that God recognises is

James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Well said brother , Well said .

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by hopefulLandlord: 5:45pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I also lost my belief in God cool . Haven't I said it before that I lack the belief in God and I have knowledge of God . I don't believe God exists !

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:49pm On Oct 25, 2016
felixomor1:


Romans 10:9
And you don't think I believed all that. I assure you that you were never more zealous than me.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:50pm On Oct 25, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
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Seun now bans us for "distracting images" . I hope you won't go unpunished .
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:52pm On Oct 25, 2016
Lennycool:

And you don't think I believed all that. I assure you that you were never more zealous than me.

Wait , is Lennycool Akdegreat
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by theoneJabulani(m): 5:54pm On Oct 25, 2016
Those saying that God only shows himself to true believers are dickheads. The op is on a ledge, what would it cost Yahweh to appear to him on night and just say:"do u believe now?". Bt no, He is too busy preping our furnace. Come to think of it, Yahweh would be the No1 draft pick for hell when u look at his actions in the old testament

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:55pm On Oct 25, 2016
Pentecostalism as expected. Not to single out RCCG (you shouldn't have mentioned it anyway) but what I suspect is and I know it's not far from the truth is that there are many atheists who remain pastors because it is their source of livelihood. It is obvious to those who read -you don't even have to read the whole Bible even. They front with charisma preaching what they don't believe in themselves and when someone starts thinking, one becomes the devil's incarnate and once you get to lose the fear of damnation and guilt tripping, one can unfortunately lose belief in Jesus Christ our only hope of salvation.
Akdegreat:


RCCG precisely

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:56pm On Oct 25, 2016
felixomor1:


No,
Please, answer Yes/No
Do you believe Jesus Christ lived, died and was raised by the power of the Holy Ghost for the saving of your sins?

If yes, when exactly were u convinced personally?

When did u make the confession?

Yes! It was drummed in my mind as early as I could remember. I was also convinced all the time.

However, I took my conscious and self determined step of salvation in September 2007. I joined the baptismal class, got baptized and undertook 'workers-in-training' a training course for intending workers in RCCG. I met and worked under several Pastors

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 5:57pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I also lost my belief in God cool . Haven't I said it before that I lack the belief in God and I have knowledge of God . I don't believe God exists !

You're just saying complete rubbish and you think its smart or poetic.
"I lack the belief that candy is sweet, I have knowledge of candy being sweet. I don't believe candy is sweet."
Utter crap, please don't claim what you are not.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:59pm On Oct 25, 2016
Lennycool:

You're just saying complete rubbish and you think its smart or poetic.
"I lack the belief that candy is sweet, I have knowledge of candy being sweet. I don't believe candy is sweet."
Utter crap, please don't claim what you are not.

Do you believe your mum exists ?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Wait , is Lennycool Akdegreat
Completely different people, that was for a question I asked earlier.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 6:03pm On Oct 25, 2016
Akdegreat:


Yes! It was drummed in my mind as early as I could remember. I was also convinced all the time.

However, I took my conscious and self determined step of salvation in September 2007. I joined the baptismal class, got baptized and undertook 'workers-in-training' a training course for intending workers in RCCG. I met and worked under several Pastors

So what exactly has removed your conviction on the salvation of Jesus Christ?
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 6:05pm On Oct 25, 2016
Lennycool:

And you don't think I believed all that. I assure you that you were never more zealous than me.

Depends on what u call "believe" though.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 6:10pm On Oct 25, 2016
felixomor1:


So what exactly has removed your conviction on the salvation of Jesus Christ?

It's hard to say. The whole story just stopped making sense to me.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:11pm On Oct 25, 2016
theoneJabulani:
Those saying that God only shows himself to true believers are dickheads. The op is on a ledge, what would it cost Yahweh to appear to him on night and just say:"do u believe now?". Bt no, He is too busy preping our furnace. Come to think of it, Yahweh would be the No1 draft pick for hell when u look at his actions in the old testament


John 20 :29

Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed.”

Why do you think God appearing to someone will make his unbelief disappear ?

Take a look at Jonah

Jonah 1: 1-3
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai: 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

3 But Jonah ran away from the Lord and headed for Tarshish. He went down to Joppa, where he found a ship bound for that port. After paying the fare, he went aboard and sailed for Tarshish to flee from the Lord.

Jonah received a ministration directly from God yet he disobeyed God and bolted .

Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden yet they disobeyed .

God appearing to Him isn't certainty that anything will change .

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 6:17pm On Oct 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
I believe you. You were a christian. I am still discovering Scriptural truths myself but I really think it has to do with your denomination because there are some, rather many, that thrive on ignorance and to remain a christian becomes an intellectual and moral struggle every moment of your being. I'm sure my guess is right. Anyway, I see even now you cannot completely say that 'there is no God' and I've realised that that is actually the most ignorant position anyone could take because as you accurately described 'compared to clerics, scientists better understood the awesomeness and magnificence of God' but just like anything else, there are intelligent clerics who base their faith on reason that welcome the kind of questions you had; and of course there are numerous other unintelligent ones who even if they see truth staring them in the face, just because it's in the bible, going by their interpretation, it becomes a lie. Cognitive dissonance at best. A priest calls them primitive people who think religious books dropped from the sky (more typical of illiterate muslims). At the mercy of such, christianity wouldn't have spurred technological advancements and many more would have been silenced. But there are even more unintelligent atheists that you will learn absolutely nothing but 'attack-christianity-because-you-have-become-an-atheist'

Good luck to you.

Thanks
But on your statement regarding the role of the denomination, what do you have to say about mine?
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 6:19pm On Oct 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



John 20 :29




Why do you think God appearing to someone will make his unbelief disappear ?

Take a look at Jonah

Jonah 1: 1-2
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai: 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

3 But Jonah ran away from the Lord and headed for Tarshish. He went down to Joppa, where he found a ship bound for that port. After paying the fare, he went aboard and sailed for Tarshish to flee from the Lord.

Jonah received a ministration directly from God yet he disobeyed God and bolted .
I swear it's like Christmas time with you ebukas, remember thay God cared so much he sent a giant fish to swallow the dude. He should do the same with this guy.

Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden yet they disobeyed .

Adam and eve didn't know right from wrong, the mistake was from God.

God appearing to Him isn't certainty that anything will change .

How do you know this, cause if God appeared to me and we had a heart to heart, I would open a thread supporting his existence the next day.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by MrMontella(m): 6:22pm On Oct 25, 2016
Lol..as expected the wailers are here in their swarms....


Already saying he's not a christian bla bla bla...
Typical cra'y...

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 6:33pm On Oct 25, 2016
Akdegreat:


It's hard to say. The whole story just stopped making sense to me.

It is well.
God willing.

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