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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by lawani: 7:41am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


There are also holes in your analysis!

First, his children live at Surulere, with their mother.
In this age of randy paedophilia (which has a high proportion of mother's Boyfriends committing the crime), the man might be worried for his daughter, seeing what his daughters are being exposed to, at an early age.
So, he has reason to go to that house, to confirm if really, some "Uncle mathew" is seducing hos daughters with Suya.
A responsible woman with three daughters should never expose them to seeing a man sneaking into their mother's bedroom overnight.


Secondly, true, she suffered a broken leg but how that translates into "attempted murder", is the work of incompetent Police men who are probably acting under some financial inducement.
Its a good thing they are even charging him for attempted murder and not Assualt because any good Lawyer will get that charge thrown out, at first attempt.
It could be an aggravated assault charge but Murder is just a stretch, a useless one for that matter.
You dont attempt to kill somebody by hitting them on the leg! grin grin
What happened to hitting them on the head, chest or other sensitive area that are very open and accessible? Nonsense.
How do you "prove" that he attempted to KILL HER?
Murder is not proved by saying he has the "intent", without solid evidence (like a knife cut to the throat or a blow to the head) that expressly confirms that the intent was to kill.... but the attempt failed.

Now, you have mixed-up the picture of the fetus at 5months (when they have limbs) and five weeks when they are just a blob.
Dont be so hasty to defend. You missed it completely.

You also goofed by saying "it was the Judge who amended the case to attempted murder"!
Judges to amend case, they decide on exactly what is brought before them irrespective of what they think.
It is only her Lawyer who can (but in this case, l think it is the Public Prosecutor, the Police IPO, who amended the charge).

Now, as per his defence, the accused, through his Lawyer just needs to show the inconsistency in her stories (lies ) indicating that the court cannot take her word for truth, show her character (like previous terminations for crimes at her former work places) to be somebody who cannot be trusted and that where there is no witness to the event, her version is not worth believing.

I am sure the guy has enough exhibit to show, even if he did assault her, it was due to extreme provocation.
How do you sleep with another man, while carrying a pregnancy for your husband... and then go abort the children just to hide your shameless act? What manner of women do we have these days?

As long as they are still legally married and his children are under that roof at Surulere house, he has all the right to be there.
The person who has no right to be there (and l really hoped it was his head that was broken and it will be legal) is that family destroyer called Mathew.
The husband should counter-sue and join Mathew to the suit.
That way, the matter will be open before the Judge, in all its ramifications


At the end of the day, the Judge will advice them to be Civil with each other or seek a divorce


Another angle to the story is that while the matter is in court (sub judice), some NGO has taken it upon themselves to act as Judge and Jury by tarnishing the image of the husband at his place of work, causing his sack.
When all these is concluded (the assault matter), if he is discharged nd acquitted, he needs to sue the NGO and sue Zenith bank, for qrongful termination and demand very punitive damages.

The assault/attempted murder/infidelity/termination of fetus without consent is a domestic issue.
It has NOTHING to do with his job or Zenith Bank because it did not occur at Zenith bank, while he was on Zenith bank's premises or duty and Zenith should not have acted, without waiting for the decision of the court.
The worst they coul dhave done is place him on temporary leave (with pay), to sort out his legal issues and then act when the court decides.

By sacking him, Zenith Bank has already pronounced him guilty, deprived him of the means to prosecute his case (financially) and acted on a matter pending in court.

I guess the Zenith payout will feed him for the rest of his life.

Employers like Zenith bank, need to understand that when shyt happens between husband and wife, it is to be decided in a family court of law, not in the office and a lot of women at taking advantage and making their estranged spouse to lose their job, in this hard times, even on trumped-up charges.

your submission is very brilliant. You should be a Judge!

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 7:45am On Nov 18, 2016
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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 7:48am On Nov 18, 2016
eyinjuege:


I've read your previous posts.
Now, let's try and apply logic to this issue, devoid of all sentiments.
Let's even assume she's a prostitute and a fraud, and he's a saint.
What was he doing in front of her house at that time of the day?. It was early hours of the morning, from the initial story.
What's the probability he wasn't there to cause trouble? Did he call her earlier he was coming to see his children? Why trespass on someone's property, if not to cause trouble?
The truth is, he started the whole brouhaha. By even being there uninvited is suspicious.
The outcome of the fracas was all because he didn't have self control.

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BATISNAIJA:
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Bros u don marry?



"She" could be married but definitely IGNORANT of the law that operates between legally married couples.

A lot of people here, asking "What/Why did he go to Surulere" are IGNORANT.
They do not know that when you are legally married to someone, unless there is a RESTRAINING ORDER on any of the spouse, you are both bound (financially and materially) to each other.

Both the Yaba and Surulere houses belongs to both of them, irrespective of who pays the rent (as long as they are legally married)!
He/She can go to any of the houses at anytime, without any legal consequence
.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Onegai(f): 7:59am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


There are also holes in your analysis!

First, his children live at Surulere, with their mother.
In this age of randy paedophilia (which has a high proportion of mother's Boyfriends committing the crime), the man might be worried for his daughter, seeing what his daughters are being exposed to, at an early age.
So, he has reason to go to that house, to confirm if really, some "Uncle mathew" is seducing hos daughters with Suya.
A responsible woman with three daughters should never expose them to seeing a man sneaking into their mother's bedroom overnight.


Secondly, true, she suffered a broken leg but how that translates into "attempted murder", is the work of incompetent Police men who are probably acting under some financial inducement.
Its a good thing they are even charging him for attempted murder and not Assualt because any good Lawyer will get that charge thrown out, at first attempt.
It could be an aggravated assault charge but Murder is just a stretch, a useless one for that matter.
You dont attempt to kill somebody by hitting them on the leg! grin grin
What happened to hitting them on the head, chest or other sensitive area that are very open and accessible? Nonsense.
How do you "prove" that he attempted to KILL HER?
Murder is not proved by saying he has the "intent", without solid evidence (like a knife cut to the throat or a blow to the head) that expressly confirms that the intent was to kill.... but the attempt failed.

Now, you have mixed-up the picture of the fetus at 5months (when they have limbs) and five weeks when they are just a blob.
Dont be so hasty to defend. You missed it completely.

You also goofed by saying "it was the Judge who amended the case to attempted murder"!
Judges to amend case, they decide on exactly what is brought before them irrespective of what they think.
It is only her Lawyer who can (but in this case, l think it is the Public Prosecutor, the Police IPO, who amended the charge).

Now, as per his defence, the accused, through his Lawyer just needs to show the inconsistency in her stories (lies ) indicating that the court cannot take her word for truth, show her character (like previous terminations for crimes at her former work places) to be somebody who cannot be trusted and that where there is no witness to the event, her version is not worth believing.

I am sure the guy has enough exhibit to show, even if he did assault her, it was due to extreme provocation.
How do you sleep with another man, while carrying a pregnancy for your husband... and then go abort the children just to hide your shameless act? What manner of women do we have these days?

As long as they are still legally married and his children are under that roof at Surulere house, he has all the right to be there.
The person who has no right to be there (and l really hoped it was his head that was broken and it will be legal) is that family destroyer called Mathew.
The husband should counter-sue and join Mathew to the suit.
That way, the matter will be open before the Judge, in all its ramifications


At the end of the day, the Judge will advice them to be Civil with each other or seek a divorce


Another angle to the story is that while the matter is in court (sub judice), some NGO has taken it upon themselves to act as Judge and Jury by tarnishing the image of the husband at his place of work, causing his sack.
When all these is concluded (the assault matter), if he is discharged nd acquitted, he needs to sue the NGO and sue Zenith bank, for qrongful termination and demand very punitive damages.

The assault/attempted murder/infidelity/termination of fetus without consent is a domestic issue.
It has NOTHING to do with his job or Zenith Bank because it did not occur at Zenith bank, while he was on Zenith bank's premises or duty and Zenith should not have acted, without waiting for the decision of the court.
The worst they coul dhave done is place him on temporary leave (with pay), to sort out his legal issues and then act when the court decides.

By sacking him, Zenith Bank has already pronounced him guilty, deprived him of the means to prosecute his case (financially) and acted on a matter pending in court.

I guess the Zenith payout will feed him for the rest of his life.

Employers like Zenith bank, need to understand that when shyt happens between husband and wife, it is to be decided in a family court of law, not in the office and a lot of women at taking advantage and making their estranged spouse to lose their job, in this hard times, even on trumped-up charges.

Chevron and a lot of companies will do the same to you, if you are charged with assault. Your personal life is not supposed to overcome your public life. Nobody wants to be associated with someone accused of such. What if they send him to a meeting to a wealthy client who barely survived being murdered by her husband, is she supposed to shine teeth at him? He's a liability. They will look for the first possible reason to get rid of you. And Zenith lawyers are excellent, the Head of any Legal dept in a bank is a guru, so let him try and sue grin that is when people will know Sugarcane no be Bamboo. When people have gotten away with murder because a SAN was representing them, you think Zenith Bank will allow their junior lawyers handle this. Or that Zenith Bank didn't review his case before allowing HR give that sack letter. Let him sue, when they are done with him, he will quietly go to his village and open a dry-goods store.

And stop being emotional, her morals are not on trial. If he hated her morals, what stopped him from petitioning for full custody during the divorce? At the end of the day, you cannot kill someone for being immoral, you divorce them. If you all keep shouting he is justified, women will start advising wives being cheated on that it is fine to feed Sniper to your husband when he cheats. If John gets away with this, expect a lot of attempted murder cases in the future, from a lot of cheated-on wives. So how many more precedents do you men want to set, you already have set the precedent that cheating is okay in marriage so your wives now follow suit. You want to set the precedent that it is justified to commit murder on cheating spouse, the population of husbands will drop drastically. I guess it's open season on offending spouses grin

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by iykedare(m): 8:01am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:


Is he being judged on his parenting skills? No, because that is not what is on trial here. Is he trying to prove that she has a history of provoking him? Yes. Does the Law state that if your spouse is a bad spouse, you can kill him/her? NO! You are expected to divorce or reconcile, not go for a grudge match and expect the Law to support personal vengeance. After all, if the brothers of all the girls you slept with and dumped, beat you into a wheelchair, will you like the court of Law to state that they did it under extreme provocation and let them all go scot-free? Nope. Is he being judged for attacking his estranged wife? Yes. Did he go to her house at 1am in the morning to look for a fight? Yes. Did he get arrested then? Yes. Does he have a valid and justifiable reason for going to waylay his estranged wife at 1am in the morning in a house that is not under his purview? He has not provided it.

Stop being so emotional and be logical. If she had poisoned him and claimed extreme provocation, she would still be facing jail time and you guys will be satisfied that justice has been served. Unless he can explain why he went to Ivie's house at 1am without prior invitation, he is presumed to have gone there with an intent to cause serious wahala. He cannot even claim Self-Defence because HE CARRIED HIS 2 LEGS FROM AJAH TO SURULERE TO WAYLAY HER AT HER HOUSE AT 1am in the morning. He has to show evidence that she invited him there. It doesn't matter if Ivie was the she-devil, the Law expects that you as an adult, should be able to save yourself from demonic influences and flee for your own safety. If he's lucky, he will get Assault which is a lesser charge than attempted murder.

After he found out she was pregnant with another man's child. He could have WALKED AWAY and only worry about Visitation and Custody for his daughters. Or are you all forgetting pictures of him in bed with another woman are all over the internet? Ivie's lawyer can use that to negate all this "she cheated" story.

Let this serve as a warning to everyone: walk away from any disastrous situation so that you don't die or you are not provoked into making someone else die. There is no defence like "he or she pushed me to do it"...not unless you can buy yourself a good verdict or get a well-connected SAN to defend you. Instead of staying and enduring till you feed Sniper to your husband or bludgeon your wife to death, walk away and don't look back.


Now, look what you made me do, I was about to insult one nonenity but I took the time to reply you and now cannot be bothered to check his moniker. Shame on you! angry


You wrote more than 200 pages and still made no sense . Gibberish! No wonder you lawyers are never paid well.
I am not a lawyer but I can do better than you. Critical thinking isn't your thing, switch to twerking

eyinjuege and diva80 aren't: lawyers but they raised far more intelligent issues than your dull self. A lawyer is meant to present issues in a way to convince people but it's so difficult for you to do. See small case and you yarn pokies, when you see big case nko.

No spoil my day, it's pay day Biko.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by rvpbae: 8:02am On Nov 18, 2016
crazymommy:
sometimes it is better not to talk than to sound foolish.....did you even read the news at all or you are suffering from comprehension problem??i wonder which higher institution some of you graduated from,they can only read but cannot comprehend,eventhough am not siding the lady or the man but i think this your comment is dumb...and is people like you that make some people think many naija ladies are dumb.......

You are just crazy. So one hit from the hammer will warrant that many stitches and cause the bone to break in different places?

If you think so, then you are dumber.
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:06am On Nov 18, 2016
Selfhood:
I really wish Zenith can take him back.
To prove their stand for and towards integrity.

This is good evidence in my opinion.

[b]I found a letter written by HRtechnique to Zenith HR.
I think this blog is doing great.
We can read the letter and share using the social media buttons if you think its necessary. I just did too:
http://www.hrtechnique.com/2016/11/letter-to-zenith-human-resource-re-john.html[/b]

If they can sack so fast then they should be able to take him back with speed if he is not guilty.
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I pray Zenith does not recall him....and he wins his case (if he has a good Lawyer).
If Zenith comes to their senses and recall him, they have already damaged his reputation and would need to do more than recall him, to repair the damage.
At this point, Zenith has fouled the law.
What evidence do they have, that the man is guilty of the offence?
Do they have a Court Judgement in their possession, as of the day of the sacking, to back-up their decision?
If Zenith claims that "the man's action is damaging to their reputation", it means they have concluded that he is guilty of attempted murder!
Since the case is yet to be heard by the court, it means Zenith has assumed the authority and competence of the Court!
It means Zenith is second-guessing the Judge of the Court.
It means Zenith is forcing the hand of the Judge, to decide the case in their way.
That is a serious offence of Contempt of Court.

So, l pray Zenith dont recall him because their Head of HR may likely go to jail for contempt of court (or whoever signed the letter of dismissal).
It also means that Zenith Bank will be guilty of wrongful dismissal - Gbeese!
It means that if he is discharged and acquitted), Zenith is guilty of Slander and defamation of character - Another Gbeese!

Infact, this guy would make enough money of Zenith (exemplary and punitive damages, his accrued income and gratuity) that he would live well for the rest of his life.

But he needs to sell his car and get a very good Lawyer first. As-in a very, very smart Lawyer.
First thing is to IMMEDIATELY COUNTER SUE the Wife and the Boyfriend for Assault.
He should then sue the Boyfriend again, for Trespass
(because his wife's hiuse, is also his house, as long as they are still married and there is no Court order barring him from the venue!).
Finally, since all the cases are related, he should insist to the court that they be heard at the same time!

That is how to do "battle" in court.

Zenith own is a small issue. Lets chase away the Vulture first, and come back to chastise the chicken. angry angry

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Onegai(f): 8:09am On Nov 18, 2016
Ahswear this thread should be retitled "Male Tears" cheesy

I wonder what will happen if they actually knew women who had gotten away with actual murder of their spouses. Good lawyers got the Murder charges dropped to lesser charges and more reasonable sentences. If Ivie gets a SAN, John is going to jail. Next time I see a wife who has poisoned her husband, I will raise funds for the best Criminal lawyer in town to defend her, just so I can watch their blood boil here grin cheesy

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by spacohill3(m): 8:12am On Nov 18, 2016
I can only pray that God helps you if you are the victim here!
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by iykedare(m): 8:15am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


There are also holes in your analysis!

First, his children live at Surulere, with their mother.
In this age of randy paedophilia (which has a high proportion of mother's Boyfriends committing the crime), the man might be worried for his daughter, seeing what his daughters are being exposed to, at an early age.
So, he has reason to go to that house, to confirm if really, some "Uncle mathew" is seducing hos daughters with Suya.
A responsible woman with three daughters should never expose them to seeing a man sneaking into their mother's bedroom overnight.


Secondly, true, she suffered a broken leg but how that translates into "attempted murder", is the work of incompetent Police men who are probably acting under some financial inducement.
Its a good thing they are even charging him for attempted murder and not Assualt because any good Lawyer will get that charge thrown out, at first attempt.
It could be an aggravated assault charge but Murder is just a stretch, a useless one for that matter.
You dont attempt to kill somebody by hitting them on the leg! grin grin
What happened to hitting them on the head, chest or other sensitive area that are very open and accessible? Nonsense.
How do you "prove" that he attempted to KILL HER?
Murder is not proved by saying he has the "intent", without solid evidence (like a knife cut to the throat or a blow to the head) that expressly confirms that the intent was to kill.... but the attempt failed.

Now, you have mixed-up the picture of the fetus at 5months (when they have limbs) and five weeks when they are just a blob.
Dont be so hasty to defend. You missed it completely.

You also goofed by saying "it was the Judge who amended the case to attempted murder"!
Judges to amend case, they decide on exactly what is brought before them irrespective of what they think.
It is only her Lawyer who can (but in this case, l think it is the Public Prosecutor, the Police IPO, who amended the charge).

Now, as per his defence, the accused, through his Lawyer just needs to show the inconsistency in her stories (lies ) indicating that the court cannot take her word for truth, show her character (like previous terminations for crimes at her former work places) to be somebody who cannot be trusted and that where there is no witness to the event, her version is not worth believing.

I am sure the guy has enough exhibit to show, even if he did assault her, it was due to extreme provocation.
How do you sleep with another man, while carrying a pregnancy for your husband... and then go abort the children just to hide your shameless act? What manner of women do we have these days?

As long as they are still legally married and his children are under that roof at Surulere house, he has all the right to be there.
The person who has no right to be there (and l really hoped it was his head that was broken and it will be legal) is that family destroyer called Mathew.
The husband should counter-sue and join Mathew to the suit.
That way, the matter will be open before the Judge, in all its ramifications


At the end of the day, the Judge will advice them to be Civil with each other or seek a divorce


Another angle to the story is that while the matter is in court (sub judice), some NGO has taken it upon themselves to act as Judge and Jury by tarnishing the image of the husband at his place of work, causing his sack.
When all these is concluded (the assault matter), if he is discharged nd acquitted, he needs to sue the NGO and sue Zenith bank, for qrongful termination and demand very punitive damages.

The assault/attempted murder/infidelity/termination of fetus without consent is a domestic issue.
It has NOTHING to do with his job or Zenith Bank because it did not occur at Zenith bank, while he was on Zenith bank's premises or duty and Zenith should not have acted, without waiting for the decision of the court.
The worst they coul dhave done is place him on temporary leave (with pay), to sort out his legal issues and then act when the court decides.

By sacking him, Zenith Bank has already pronounced him guilty, deprived him of the means to prosecute his case (financially) and acted on a matter pending in court.

I guess the Zenith payout will feed him for the rest of his life.

Employers like Zenith bank, need to understand that when shyt happens between husband and wife, it is to be decided in a family court of law, not in the office and a lot of women at taking advantage and making their estranged spouse to lose their job, in this hard times, even on trumped-up charges.

Dont bother educating that charge and Bail lawyer, onegai. She won't understand all these,she is just so vacuous . I'm happy that lots of people can see the flaws in her wack analysis.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:17am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:


Chevron and a lot of companies will do the same to you, if you are charged with assault. Your personal life is not supposed to overcome your public life. Nobody wants to be associated with someone accused of such. What if they send him to a meeting to a wealthy client who barely survived being murdered by her husband, is she supposed to shine teeth at him? He's a liability. They will look for the first possible reason to gt rid of you. And stop being emotional, her morals are not on trial. If he hated her morals, what stopped him from petitioning for full custody during the divorce? And according to her, she ws transporting the children from Badagry to Abraham Adesanya to school before moving to Surulere. So how does that make him a good father? At the end of the day, you cannot kill someone for being immoral, you divorce them. If you all keep shouting he is justified, women will start advising wives being cheated on that it is fine to feed Sniper to your husband when he cheats. If John gets away with this, expect a lot of attempted murder cases in the future, from a lot of cheated-on wives. So how many more precedents do you men want to set, you already have set the precedent that cheating is okay in marriage so your wives now follow suit. You want to set the precedent that it is justified to commit murder on cheating spouse, the population of husbands will drop drastically. You all claim to be better than Northerners but love their archaic laws when it benefits you. Then convert to Islam and do as you see fit, Sharia law allows you a lot more room.

Did l hear someone say you are a Lawyer? I hope you are not the one that made that claim! shocked shocked

* Do you know the difference between "an accusation".... and "a conviction"?
* Do you know that in law, everybody is INNOCENT of any accusation (no matter how apparent!) until PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law?
* Do you know that you cannot act on "anticipatory guilt" of an accused (which means you are second-guessing the Judge as the Judge may decide wither way), to PUNISH the ACCUSED?
* Do you know that Zenith is only acting on their own, without any backing of law (Judgement)?



I see in all the gibberish you wrote up there, that you are talking like a lay-man, by mixing MORALS with LAW!
Both are not the same thing!
Court Judgements are based on the LAW (constitution), Public Opinion is based on MORALS, in most cases.

Stop moralising a criminal charge.
You are too emotional in your post.

But honestly, can you confirm to me that you are a Lawyer, (even a baby-Lawyer), please! grin grin

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:21am On Nov 18, 2016
iykedare:


Dont bother educating that charge and Bail lawyer, onegai. She won't understand all these,she is justbso vacuous .

are you kidding me, is she really a Lawyer?
trust me, she is not a Lawyer.
Even a year one Lawyer will not have such "moral" thought-process.
They teach Lawyers to look at issues OBJECTIVELY and Argue based on WHAT THE LAW SAYS
....

...not on what is right,
which is what all her moralising stories are all about (wife giving husband poison, sharia, bla-bla-bla and all those trash!)

Some Lawyers are worse than a lay-man, in spoiling a good case!
I have seen many of them in the court room.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by iykedare(m): 8:23am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


are you kidding me, is she really a Lawyer?
trust me, she is not a Lawyer.
Even a year one Lawyer will not have such "moral" thought-process.
They teach Lawyers to look at issues OBJECTIVELY and Argue based on WHAT THE LAW SAYS
....

...not on what is right,
which is what all her moralising stories are all about (wife giving husband poison, sharia, bla-bla-bla and all those trash!)

Some Lawyers are worse than a lay-man, in spoiling a good case!
I have seen many of them in the court room.

She is a lawyer - charge and bail lawyers tho. She doesn't have what it takes to present and win cases in the court of law. Unfortunately,she is a hero to some people here.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Onegai(f): 8:24am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


Did l hear someone say you are a Lawyer? I hope you are not the one that made that claim! shocked shocked

* Do you know the difference between "an accusation".... and "a conviction"?
* Do you know that in law, everybody is INNOCENT of any accusation (no matter how apparent!) until PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law?
* Do you know that you cannot act on "anticipatory guilt" of an accused (which means you are second-guessing the Judge as the Judge may decide wither way), to PUNISH the ACCUSED?
* Do you know that Zenith is only acting on their own, without any backing of law (Judgement)?



I see in all the gibberish you wrote up there, that you are talking like a lay-man, by mixing MORALS with LAW!
Both are not the same thing!
Court Judgements are based on the LAW (constitution), Public Opinion is based on MORALS, in most cases.

Stop moralising a criminal charge. [/b]You are too emotional in your post.

[b]But honestly, can you confirm to me that you are a Lawyer, (even a baby-Lawyer), please!
grin grin




It is not anticipatory guilt, unless you read his letter of termination and it explicitly said he was fired because of this case, they can and will get away with it. Zenith Bank has been firing lots of people in the past one month, shedding jobs due to the economy. Good luck him trying to prove he got fired because of this case when others got letters of termination the same week as he did. Please go and represent him in a civil suit against Zenith Bank, please grin

You are the person shedding hot bitter tears about her morals and he being worried about influence on his daughters and that made him justified. Look who's being emotional and non-objective. Again, show me the law that states "hey, beat up your immoral spouse, it's totally cool'. Email me when you do.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:27am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:
Ahswear this thread should be retitled "Male Tears" cheesy

I wonder what will happen if they actually knew women who had gotten away with actual murder of their spouses. Good lawyers got the Murder charges dropped to lesser charges and more reasonable sentences. If Ivie gets a SAN, John is going to jail. Next time I see a wife who has poisoned her husband, I will raise funds for the best Criminal lawyer in town to defend her, just so I can watch their blood boil here grin cheesy

Now, l can confirm that you are a fraud, if you ever claim to be a Lawyer.
Real Lawyers dont get so emotionally involved in a matter the way you are whining about it here!

if you are a Lawyer yourself, you wont need to raise fund to defend someone, YOU will defend them prono bono or for free.

You are more of a Man-hater, wanna-be feminist.

Now Gerrahea before you get jailed for impersonation.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by toyinid78: 8:29am On Nov 18, 2016
eyinjuege:


I've read your previous posts.
Now, let's try and apply logic to this issue, devoid of all sentiments.
Let's even assume she's a prostitute and a fraud, and he's a saint.
What was he doing in front of her house at that time of the day?. It was early hours of the morning, from the initial story.
What's the probability he wasn't there to cause trouble? Did he call her earlier he was coming to see his children? Why trespass on someone's property, if not to cause trouble?
The truth is, he started the whole brouhaha. By even being there uninvited is suspicious. The outcome of the fracas was all because he didn't have self control.
Relationships break down, but everyone should just carry their wahala and go. They don't have blood ties ( they're not related- as we can't choose our relatives, but we can choose who we want to spend our lives with), so why stalk her? She could have lost her life.
He's on trial for attempted murder, so any reasonable company will wash their hands off him,. That's the way of the world, its not personal. They would even deny they ever knew him if they could.
I sincerely don't believe the woman has mental imbalance or on psychotropic drugs not to know who assaulted her.
I'm just trying to be objective here.
The same way I can never side a housewife who goes to her husband's mistress house to fight her, or a housewife pouring hot water on her husband because he's cheating, or the one that poisoned her step son.
Just walk away. See your children at arranged times, weekends, holidays or whatever. They're the ones that are your blood, and should be your utmost concern.
What some call love is just obsession, and it always makes people irrational.
ur judging u need to experience wat hge went tru before u can judge,so becos he marreid her and wasted money during wedding,produce 3kids who ar girls dat wud end up seeing wat dier mum did as a choice ,wen wud nigerians ever think before dey talk dis issue took dem more dan 13years to get to we're dey ar now! But it took u just 3minutes to judge him
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:35am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:


It is not anticipatory guilt, unless you read his letter of termination and it explicitly said he was fired because of this case, they can and will get away with it. Zenith Bank has been firing lots of people in the past one month, shedding jobs. Good luck him trying to prove he got fired because of this case when others got letters of termination the same week as he did. Please go and represent him in a civil suit against Zenith Bank, please grin

You are the person shedding hot bitter tears about her morals and he being worried about influence on his daughters and that made him justified. Look who's being emotional and non-objective. Again, show me the law that states "hey, beat up your immoral spouse, it's totally cool'. Email me when you do.


Anticipatory: action taken in lieu of an EXPECTED OUTCOME.

No court has convicted the man of being guilty, so he could be guilty of Innocent.
For now neither we nor Zenith Bank knows how the case will go.
Any action (like that of Zenith) taken to punish him for an action for which his guilt is yet to be declared by a lawful court is ANTICIPATORY, in that they (Zenith) anticipated that he would be declared guilty and convicted.

You surprise me, that you dont understand this basics, ...and you lay claim to being a learned person?


BTW: I dont think you have read the letter sent to Zenith by the NGO and the response of Zenith.
I have read both, online.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Realhommie(m): 8:37am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:


There are also holes in your analysis!

First, his children live at Surulere, with their mother.
In this age of randy paedophilia (which has a high proportion of mother's Boyfriends committing the crime), the man might be worried for his daughter, seeing what his daughters are being exposed to, at an early age.
So, he has reason to go to that house, to confirm if really, some "Uncle mathew" is seducing hos daughters with Suya.
A responsible woman with three daughters should never expose them to seeing a man sneaking into their mother's bedroom overnight.


Secondly, true, she suffered a broken leg but how that translates into "attempted murder", is the work of incompetent Police men who are probably acting under some financial inducement.
Its a good thing they are even charging him for attempted murder and not Assualt because any good Lawyer will get that charge thrown out, at first attempt.
It could be an aggravated assault charge but Murder is just a stretch, a useless one for that matter.
You dont attempt to kill somebody by hitting them on the leg! grin grin
What happened to hitting them on the head, chest or other sensitive area that are very open and accessible? Nonsense.
How do you "prove" that he attempted to KILL HER?
Murder is not proved by saying he has the "intent", without solid evidence (like a knife cut to the throat or a blow to the head) that expressly confirms that the intent was to kill.... but the attempt failed.

Now, you have mixed-up the picture of the fetus at 5months (when they have limbs) and five weeks when they are just a blob.
Dont be so hasty to defend. You missed it completely.

You also goofed by saying "it was the Judge who amended the case to attempted murder"!
Judges to amend case, they decide on exactly what is brought before them irrespective of what they think.
It is only her Lawyer who can (but in this case, l think it is the Public Prosecutor, the Police IPO, who amended the charge).

Now, as per his defence, the accused, through his Lawyer just needs to show the inconsistency in her stories (lies ) indicating that the court cannot take her word for truth, show her character (like previous terminations for crimes at her former work places) to be somebody who cannot be trusted and that where there is no witness to the event, her version is not worth believing.

I am sure the guy has enough exhibit to show, even if he did assault her, it was due to extreme provocation.
How do you sleep with another man, while carrying a pregnancy for your husband... and then go abort the children just to hide your shameless act? What manner of women do we have these days?

As long as they are still legally married and his children are under that roof at Surulere house, he has all the right to be there.
The person who has no right to be there (and l really hoped it was his head that was broken and it will be legal) is that family destroyer called Mathew.
The husband should counter-sue and join Mathew to the suit.
That way, the matter will be open before the Judge, in all its ramifications


At the end of the day, the Judge will advice them to be Civil with each other or seek a divorce


Another angle to the story is that while the matter is in court (sub judice), some NGO has taken it upon themselves to act as Judge and Jury by tarnishing the image of the husband at his place of work, causing his sack.
When all these is concluded (the assault matter), if he is discharged nd acquitted, he needs to sue the NGO and sue Zenith bank, for qrongful termination and demand very punitive damages.

The assault/attempted murder/infidelity/termination of fetus without consent is a domestic issue.
It has NOTHING to do with his job or Zenith Bank because it did not occur at Zenith bank, while he was on Zenith bank's premises or duty and Zenith should not have acted, without waiting for the decision of the court.
The worst they coul dhave done is place him on temporary leave (with pay), to sort out his legal issues and then act when the court decides.

By sacking him, Zenith Bank has already pronounced him guilty, deprived him of the means to prosecute his case (financially) and acted on a matter pending in court.

I guess the Zenith payout will feed him for the rest of his life.

Employers like Zenith bank, need to understand that when shyt happens between husband and wife, it is to be decided in a family court of law, not in the office and a lot of women at taking advantage and making their estranged spouse to lose their job, in this hard times, even on trumped-up charges.
I like your analysis... It's unbiased and very aptly written.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by teeghurl(f): 8:38am On Nov 18, 2016
pcguru1:

Lol as in even in the office I use the Vaseline joke how you dey babe ?
I'm good thanks
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by OgaTheTop2: 8:42am On Nov 18, 2016
This woman is very shameless undecided
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Sexyolori(f): 8:42am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:
Hmm, he's got enough to prove reasonable doubt. But there need to be witnesses as to the assault to say what happened. Because right now, that's his word against hers. Ivie claims he attacked her and her bf, he claims it was a 3-way brawl and she got hurt by her bf, both of them should provide witnesses. He is on trial for attempted murder of his spouse, not for not paying Child support. Though it was bad of her to lie about that to the media.


It doesn't matter if you married the devil, you are not allowed to attempt to physically beat him up and get away with it. You are expected to divorce the devil or reconcile with the devil but not get into a fight with it.
Hun, your reasoning and line of thought is so thorough. Are you a lawyer?
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by osolee(m): 8:48am On Nov 18, 2016
God knows......
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by 5minsmadness: 8:48am On Nov 18, 2016
Daboomb:
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I pray Zenith does not recall him....and he wins his case (if he has a good Lawyer).
If Zenith comes to their senses and recall him, they have already damaged his reputation and would need to do more than recall him, to repair the damage.
At this point, Zenith has fouled the law.
What evidence do they have, that the man is guilty of the offence?
Do they have a Court Judgement in their possession, as of the day of the sacking, to back-up their decision?
If Zenith claims that "the man's action is damaging to their reputation", it means they have concluded that he is guilty of attempted murder!
Since the case is yet to be heard by the court, it means Zenith has assumed the authority and competence of the Court!
It means Zenith is second-guessing the Judge of the Court.
It means Zenith is forcing the hand of the Judge, to decide the case in their way.
That is a serious offence of Contempt of Court.

So, l pray Zenith dont recall him because their Head of HR may likely go to jail for contempt of court (or whoever signed the letter of dismissal).
It also means that Zenith Bank will be guilty of wrongful dismissal - Gbeese!
It means that if he is discharged and acquitted), Zenith is guilty of Slander and defamation of character - Another Gbeese!

Infact, this guy would make enough money of Zenith (exemplary and punitive damages, his accrued income and gratuity) that he would live well for the rest of his life.

But he needs to sell his car and get a very good Lawyer first. As-in a very, very smart Lawyer.
First thing is to IMMEDIATELY COUNTER SUE the Wife and the Boyfriend for Assault.
He should then sue the Boyfriend again, for Trespass
(because his wife's hiuse, is also his house, as long as they are still married and there is no Court order barring him from the venue!).
Finally, since all the cases are related, he should insist to the court that they be heard at the same time!

That is how to do "battle" in court.

Zenith own is a small issue. Lets chase away the Vulture first, and come back to chastise the chicken. angry angry
I love you man, no homo.
Unfortunately i cannot say much on this matter again.
Let's see how it goes.

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by Daboomb: 8:50am On Nov 18, 2016
All these fight between spouse is getting out of hand.

But even more mind-boggling is if all men insist on doing a DNA of their children, at a certain point in time!
A lot of Men will be shocked at how many bastard children they are rearing as their own, not knowing Madam was just giving them to train!

One DNA firm in Abuja claimed that in all their tests, over 65% of children being reared by Men, are not their biological children and when it comes to first born, the figure is over 85%!

It means chances are that majority of Nigerians are rearing the child of another man, as their first born!

I hope that sinks-in for all men reading this?
"Quietly" Do a DNA test of your children, at least to be very certain they are yours.

It does not cost much (20K in some places!)

If this Zenith man did not get informed that Uncle Mathew comes to sleep overnight, like many men, the man would have had another set of Bastards to nurse for the rest of his life.
But the woman, when exposed, decides to murder the fetus!
How many are right now, concealing such a secret from their husband?

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by LordGuru1: 8:52am On Nov 18, 2016
Wanting or demanding loyalty from biutch, you are guaranteed to die trying.
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by hisawesomeness(m): 8:54am On Nov 18, 2016
Ivie is a married olosho
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by remsonik(f): 9:06am On Nov 18, 2016
Collins0609:
All because d woman choose to open her legs wide.u can imagine what d man had been enduring for years,u wont wish it 4 ur enemy talk more of ur brother.lets not look at her been financially independent.A hoe is a hoe.thank God d man is still alive,only because she did not hav connection to higher killers.if she can murder a 7 months twin even at d risk of her life.believe me she can kill more than BH
I won't take side with anyone,with john's account Ivie was terribly wrong,with Ivie's account john was wrong but only the truth can see an end to this class
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by crazymommy(f): 9:10am On Nov 18, 2016
rvpbae:


You are just crazy. So one hit from the hammer will warrant that many stitches and cause the bone to break in different places?

If you think so, then you are dumber.
Why not bring your leg and let someine hit it with hammer and lets see if it could happen or not....arindin oshi..

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by mapet: 9:13am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:
Hmm, he's got enough to prove reasonable doubt. But there need to be witnesses as to the assault to say what happened. Because right now, that's his word against hers. Ivie claims he attacked her and her bf, he claims it was a 3-way brawl and she got hurt by her bf, both of them should provide witnesses. He is on trial for attempted murder of his spouse, not for not paying Child support. Though it was bad of her to lie about that to the media.

I don't buy that first marriage one, St. Dominic's is very thorough about their vetting process. So they would have announced banns in her village so that some nosy neighbour would come forward and they will stop the wedding. He would have been informed of her previous marriage to another man. Catholic church doesn't play with banns in Nigeria.

And they can subpoena her doctor in court to produce her medical history to prove a late-term abortion or not. So he should provide the name of the hospital in Surulere to the court. However, the wife says he kicked her out 2 years before the assault, the messages see her admitting that their marriage broke down 2 years before assault. How come he thought it was his? Unless they were still living together.

If one looks at the dates from the payments, August 2014, they were in school in Abraham Adesanya, so it's either they still lived close to Laura Stephens. And that payment was for 2014/2015 session. But August 2016, they were paying for 1st term in a Surulere school.
There is no 2015 schoolfees attached, so maybe she paid for that year.

Why is her scan showing single gestational sac (one baby) yet he claims she aborted twins? Na so??

He's being charged with attempted murder (the judge scaled up the charges from assault). The Law allows that a scuffle can lead to a slap in an argument with your spouse, but punches and visible beating and any broken limbs or anything that comes to the hospital is Assault.

If he can get a good lawyer, someone that handles Criminal cases, he can prove reasonable doubt to the Judge that Ivie is a an untrustworthy plantiff so her version of the story cannot be trusted and insist on witness account around the area. Someone must have seen or heard something. If they were brawling with her bf, Surulere is not so quiet that someone won't have opened their window to peek and pokenose. Sometimes, an amebo neighbour can be a lifesaver o grin

There are holes in both their stories. The fact remains, he was at her Surulere residence at a time he should not have been. That is why he is being charged with Attempted Murder, the only reason he would show up at his estranged wife's house at 1am is because he went there looking for a fight. So, all this may help him but he will definitely get a charge on his head. I suspect this info dump is to sway the court into dropping the Attempted Murder charge to Assault. His lawyer is trying to show that Ivie has a history of extreme provocation towards John. So that yes, he went to look for a fight/confront her and her lover but he did not plan on things escalating.

It doesn't matter if you married the devil, you are not allowed to attempt to physically beat him up and get away with it. You are expected to divorce the devil or reconcile with the devil but not get into a fight with it.

1. Fantastic Analysis. You're one of the people that gives hope that intelligence still resides on NL
2. I am not a lawyer tho, but I think John has taken a first major step, i.e. shape the narrative and cast doubt on Ivie's (dubious) version
3. On the issue of the pregnancy report, I will imagine that the first step is to establish the authenticity of the medical report. Hence the hospital will be subpoena'ed to authenticate it. If this is authenticated, then a burden of proof will be on Ivie to explain how the pregnancy "vamoosed". If it was not by abortion, then by what circumstances? Even if the pregnancy got terminated accidentally, which hospital (or Native Doctor) was the evacuation done?
4. On the issue of the brawl, I think it's neither here nor there. It is already established that there was actually an affair, the guy could actually admit that he did trail them to challenge the guy to leave his wife alone. Both will need the security men that tried to intervene to give account of what actually transpired

When I first heard Ivie's version, I told my boss that John blundered, my boss cautioned me that I am yet to hear John's version and that you don't know the extent a wife on destructive mission can drive a man to commit. John should have quietly mopped up his loss and moved on. I inferred from their exchanges on WhatsApp that John felt pained and wanted to psychologically get back at her.....

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Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by mapet: 9:27am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're fighting with your spouse, save your messages. Email your Whatsapp and BBM messages with spouse to yourself. This is simple Spousal Battle Tactics 101. grin Everyone should know this.

I had a relationship with a supposed friend living overseas, who spuriously claimed he gave me monies beyond what he sent. Thank God for Log of MG, Banks Statements (I logged everything in my account, before paying out) and printed WhatsApp conversations. These things are needed for the day of "problems"
Re: John Edobor, Man Accused Of Breaking Wife's Legs Tells His Side Of The Story by crazymommy(f): 9:31am On Nov 18, 2016
Onegai:


It is not anticipatory guilt, unless you read his letter of termination and it explicitly said he was fired because of this case, they can and will get away with it. Zenith Bank has been firing lots of people in the past one month, shedding jobs due to the economy. Good luck him trying to prove he got fired because of this case when others got letters of termination the same week as he did. Please go and represent him in a civil suit against Zenith Bank, please grin
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You are the person shedding hot bitter tears about her morals and he being worried about influence on his daughters and that made him justified. Look who's being emotional and non-objective. Again, show me the law that states "hey, beat up your immoral spouse, it's totally cool'. Email me when you do.
hahaha jesus christ!!!!!!!GOD bless people like prof akinwale of the great university of ibadan oooo,see the way new generation of these days are bastardizing the law and having very myopic knowledge about the law and i begin to wonder what kind of lawyers our law schools and universities are churning out these days,i pity the future of this country ooo if this is the kind of half baked lawyers we are going to be currently seeing in this country?? Do you even understand anticipatory guilt at all??my GOD i need to see those that educated you people at the law school,they need to be sacked if truly they are the ones that passed this half baked knowledge to you and graduated you people or maybe you are still in school studying law??!like seriously??jeez the current educational system has failed!!!!you need to work under a sound legal praticitioner that should educate you more so that you can become a good lawyer in the future...but for now read more law books to sharpern your knowledge....please do not bring ignorance into law and allow people to start talking down on we legal practicitioners...jeez...no wonder many of you this new generation of lawyers have been turned to charge and bail lawyers..no person that needs correct justice phase will ever hire you except if the person is just looking for a charge and bail lawyer or the person is an illiterate or not well informed about law..

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