PDBonline:

dalaman, you are making those claims again. In logic it's called begging the question: providing what is essentially the conclusion as the premise. You also used hasty generalization You essentially provided more of what is called logical fallacy.
To conclude that Gods are man made idea, you must have interacted with every man that ever claimed to believe in God in the history of humanity and must have proven that all of them had the same story to tell.

Deicide:
How Many times Would i Say this? Atheism is Not "There Is No God"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngw25LhsLfY

damogul:


Saying you were once a Christian is no proof to your claim. I am a Christian and have been for 30yrs of my life so our positions differ so can you show me real tangible proof to your claim

PDBonline:

dalaman, you are making those claims again. In logic it's called begging the question: providing what is essentially the conclusion as the premise. You also used hasty generalization You essentially provided more of what is called logical fallacy.
To conclude that Gods are man made idea, you must have interacted with every man that ever claimed to believe in God in the history of humanity and must have proven that all of them had the same story to tell.

damogul:


Please this thread is not for kids. Neither is it for those who type before they think. If you did not understand the OP then quietly walk out of the thread. Since you need a video to establish who you are then please let others show us proof which determined who they are. Videos are not what we want but actually irrefutable or scientific proof.

dalaman:


I don't need to do that. All I need I'd to follow the pattern and I have provide it. Show.me a God that people believe in that can be shown to exist in its own independent of man's input. Does your God exist? Show me that it exist on its own without man made stories,theology, doctrines and societal acceptance. If your God exist show that it exist independently without man's input.

dalaman:


I don't need to do that. All I need I'd to follow the pattern and I have provide it. Show.me a God that people believe in that can be shown to exist in its own independent of man's input. Does your God exist? Show me that it exist on its own without man made stories,theology, doctrines and societal acceptance. If your God exist show that it exist independently without man's input.

felixomor:


Please first explain to us how you as a human being will show to a bacterium that you exist?

KingEbukasBlog:
Nature serves as evidence for God . We also see intelligence in humans , morality , and personal observation as evidence for God .

How atheists can prove God does not exist .

dalaman:


A bacterium is in no way , shape and form interested in the knowledge of the existence of a human being. Humans want to know that Gods exist and Gods as we are told want humans to exist. You are comparing apples to stones here.

damogul:



If you claim you followed the pattern can you show me your thesis and probable interview you had with every single originator of the God idea and how they even started the God idea off the top of their head without any external influence or any self reasoning or experience on their part.

So can you show me how you followed this pattern and how far the pattern went.

AnonyNymous:

What is natural theology?

Deicide:
How Many times Would i Say this? Atheism is Not "There Is No God"

damogul:


Have you ever interviewed a bacteria to know this? Scientists seem to disagree with you because a Bacteria is alive and since it was able to influence their idea of evolution and from it man got intelligence and a brain to reason with then a bacterium is intelligent. Have you interviewd a bacterium before to know what it wants and does not want? If you have then show us how you did this which enabled you know what they want and do not want and how it is that they are not interested in the knowledge of the existence of man

dalaman:


I don't need to interview anybody. The existence of various Gods and the fact that men do everything for the Gods alone shows that men created them all. Show me any God that exist on its own without the input of men. Show me that God.

dalaman:


A bacterium is in no way , shape and form interested in the knowledge of the existence of a human being. Humans want to know that Gods exist and Gods as we are told want humans to exist. You are comparing apples to stones here.

dalaman:


A bacteria can not communicate with a human being. Gods are said to communicate with human beings. You on your own have claimed to be communicating with God. I can ask you specific questions about your claim and it will show that you are lying and you are not in communication with any thing m you are only communicating with your imaginations. So do you communicate with God. Yes or no?

damogul:


What came first. man or nature? How did nature get here? If you are an advocate for evolution then you can make this assertion but you are not. You believe in Creation but not the religious creation. So how then is man needed as an input to the existence of God?

If you were not there and have not carried out one single personal research or interview of anyone at at any age then you are not an authority to say for a fact that God does not exist or is a man made idea. All you have are claims based on assumptions.

dalaman:


A bacteria can not communicate with a human being. Gods are said to communicate with human beings. You on your own have claimed to be communicating with God. I can ask you specific questions about your claim and it will show that you are lying and you are not in communication with any thing m you are only communicating with your imaginations. So do you communicate with God. Yes or no?

PDBonline:

You should take a dictionary and start from there. But really, when I say God. I mean the Eternal Being through whom everything else derives origin; the omnipotent and omniscient.

Exist means [/b]real[b].

Now, if you decide to change the topic again, I won't respond to you. All what I'm asking for is how an atheist who claims God is not real came to that conclusion, logically and scientifically.

dalaman:


I have already given you a very clear cut work. If you know any God that exist on its own without human input point to it.

damogul:


How did you arrive at the claim i highlighted? Have you exhausted all attempts to communicate with a bacteria? Have you even made any attempt before? When you make certain claims be very careful. Same way they said man cannot communicate with whales or dolphins but today we are able to do that. So what attempt have you made to communicate with a bacterium to prove that they lack the ability to communicate?

dalaman:


Who said man can not communicate with Whales of Dolphins? Show me thepersonally that said that. A bacteria doesn't have a brain. It is a singke cell organism that is primitive. How can a human being communicate with such an organism. If you say it is possible then let me know how. By the way do you communicate with God?

PDBonline:


Deicide, What do you hold to as true about God? 1. Does God exist? 2. Do you believe humans cannot know whether or not God exist?

[s]If your answer to 1. Is No then show us if there was an objective scientific source having done all due diligence to come to that conclusion.[/s]
If your answer is "I don't know" then proceed to answer question
2. If your answer is "No" this thread is not for you. If it is "Yes" provide the logically true and scientifically proven fact that you hold on to that has proven that it is impossible for man to know God exist. And that should include an evidence that if God exist, although He is God, he CANNOT reveal Himself to man.

That's what this thread is about

PDBonline:
Shifting the burden of prove again.

dalaman:


Who said man can not communicate with Whales of Dolphins? Show me thepersonally that said that. A bacteria doesn't have a brain. It is a singke cell organism that is primitive. How can a human being communicate with such an organism. If you say it is possible then let me know how. By the way do you communicate with God?

felixomor:


U r beginning to expose your faulty lines now.
Firstly, u couldnt tell me how u knew d mind of bacteria.

God is a spirit, we are humans

So fastforward your brain now.

Blackbolt:
define "real"

dalaman:


The bacteria has no mind. It has no brain.

God is spirit but you guys claim to be in contact with him. You claim you talk and communicate with it. The God of the bible says that humans should come and reason together with him. You seem to be hiding your God under the this elusive relm of the spiritual.

Deicide:
Oh boy Now am You and also NinjaX

dalaman:


The bacteria has no mind. It has no brain.

God is spirit but you guys claim to be in contact with him. You claim you talk and communicate with it. The God of the bible says that humans should come and reason together with him. You seem to be hiding your God under the this elusive relm of the spiritual.