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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:23pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
jonbellion: Totally! Something you are yet to get to. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:23pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
ScepticalPyrrho: Does he have to have a moniker before a thread can be about him? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:24pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Going by your assertion all the different religions that claim God communicated with their founders and is communicating with their members are all correct right? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:25pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Dalaman stop being coy. Where is your proof to your own claim? Felixomor ignore him till he provides his proof. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 3:25pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor:This is not good enough and u know it... Why not tell him secret things about his life... Like his age, name of his gf, his ful name... The holy spirit can do that right? Am guessing you have the holy spirit |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:27pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Proof of what claim? I have told you to show me the God that exist in its own without human input. Will you show me that God already and stop crying all over the place? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:27pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
randomperson: You see? This is why we say proof is subjective as no proof would ever suffice for an atheist in self denial. You determine what you want as proof and when its given you switch to something else. Pathetic really. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by ScepticalPyrrho: 3:28pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul:Ok. What a way to go. You seriously didn't think the post makes sense, did you? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by akintom(m): 3:28pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: Let me assume that you are sincere here. Let's look dispassionately now at issue of god idea, and specifically its existence. The human existential and essential experience, thrives on belief system - the mental process that helps humans to know and establish what they think is true. Be it tangible or in tangible. The god idea (theism) happened to be one of the beliefs that humans developed at the earliest time of human development, in an attempt to resolve their perplexity, about some phenomenon they couldn't provide rational and empirical evidence for. This was due to ignorance and knowledge level. At the exact time that this god idea/theory emerged, the belief that also rejected this belief emerged as well (atheism). The beliefs (atheistic) that were put forward, to replace the rejected beliefs (theistic), subscribes to reason and objective explanations, as against the theistic views that were completely founded on assumptions and subliminal. Can you respond to this pls..... |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 3:28pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
@ Damogul ,.. Plss respond to my comment where I used the prosecution analogy |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:29pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: i have asked you to show me tangible proof to your claim of God being a man made idea by proving to me that you are probably 10000 yrs old and were there when the first man made God idea began and how lack of experiences or head knowledge brought this about. I also asked you to show me proof that you have interviewed all the god proponents worldwide to arrive at your conclusion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:30pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: I said "God has used all the methods" I dont know how that translates to "all religions are correct" I hope you know what a fallacy is? Unless you want to pretend. But if you want to pretend, no problem. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:31pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
randomperson: I didnt post the video for u. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:32pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
akintom: You do not believe God exists. Show us your empirical data backing this up if you have one. Or show us something irrefutable especially since science is still unable to disprove God. Show us how you arrived at your own conclusion and stop asking others questions when the OP is about proof. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by ScepticalPyrrho: 3:35pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
ScepticalPyrrho: I dont have to be the author of a thread for a thread to be about me. I hope we are on the same grammar frequency? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by ScepticalPyrrho: 3:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor:Which one of the persons in there is God? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 3:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor:It doesn't matter... Except u are chickening out sha |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Is there any atheist who can bell the cat and provide us tangle empirically proven proof that God is non existent? That is what this thread is about. Its not about Red Herrings or Goal post shifting or Fallacies in all its forms. Simply Proof. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:38pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
jonbellion: I'm not surprised ... he is quality ! Redolent of his Athletico Madrid days |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:39pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: What are the methods? How do we know which method is correct and which is false? Most religions also say that they were divinely revealed. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by jonbellion(m): 3:39pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Akinton Are you saying that there is no God atall or that religious Gods are false and a supreme being is likely? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:39pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by jonbellion(m): 3:39pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:actually the most baffling is no red card yet Diego is a changed man 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:40pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Dalaman save your fingers and use it to show us proof. Stop typing irrelevant things to the OP. Show us your proof simple. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by ScepticalPyrrho: 3:40pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor:your initial post didn't mention "about". I'm seriously thinking you all need some time to rethink your position and come up with something better than this. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:40pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: When you rovide objective and incontrovertible evidence that your God exist then we will take up your challange. Remember we disbelieve in the existence of God's based on lack of evidence. If you have objective and incontrovertible evidence to show that your God exist provide it already. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:40pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Doesnt change the fact that u just translated my statement into a fallacy. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:41pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Proof of what? Show us any God that exist on its own without human input. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 3:41pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
ScepticalPyrrho: So if i say this is God's book. It must be God who wrote it with his hands? Hmmmm |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:42pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Cop out! In other words you have no personal reason why you assert that God does not exist and depend on anothers opinion in order to form yours? Is that how a logical mind works? If it is then you are simply illogical. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 3:44pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul:How many times would u be told... U don't prove negative, u disprove positive and for you to disprove something, there must have been an initial attempt at proving that positive |
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