felixomor:


At first u said internet is silent.
Now you are onto something else.

Ok, go ahead and tell me what he read in school.

I am waiting.

speak2leo:


not everything u read online is reliable. those fake reports are invalid hence disregarded in puting up a valid point.

Meanwhile I'm a Medical Doctor of 8 years in Practice. just to answer you dear.

felixomor:


I went online becos of you.
I knew this about Don Moen long ago even when I was in med school.

I never even knew it was online.


Not everything about everyone is on wikipedia.
Some preachers who are qualified medical doctors dont even like discussing it until they are asked.

speak2leo:


pls if u come across where he gave account of himself as a Doctor, let me know. I'm interested in that aspect of his life. maybe I'll learn one or two.
I've heard of that story before but not attributed to Moen. I can't recall who. it must have been a mistaken account of someone else.

Setaje:
This same God healed someone I no of cancer wiv out even taking drugs or chemotherapy. This same God healed someone that had issue of blood for 5 years. Yes the person bled for five years. Wore pad everyday. I just laugh at you people. For as many unanswered prayers you no, there are many answered prayers to counter it. Whether you believe or not, I am a living testimony.

CatfishBilly:
It's not a hidden fact that Medical Doctors have a huge number of Atheists amongst them, I mean, they see how ineffective prayer is in the face of death od to share stories of patients I've lost in the face of prayers and I encourage doctors and non doctors alike to come forth and share their stories.

UyiIredia:


What am I missing? Why did you imply doubt about prayer in your posts.

stagger:
Mumu OP doctor,
did it occur to you that if all sick people's prayers were answered, you will have no livelihood? Even the bible records that in His hometown, Jesus could not do any mighty work there because of the unbelief of the people.

I am a personal testimony that prayer and healing are as real as it gets. I will not share my story here, but my experience is enough to confirm that prayer works, and healing is also available. Yes, mine took time to get, but I got it eventually.

Besides, are you aware that many Eastern religions also heal people? Read Yonggi Cho's Book on "The Fourth Dimension". You will understand these things better.

Akin1212:

If your god or your creator, whatchacallit, is subjected to pleasure, then he is a tyrant. And please tell him, his pleasurable moments have been duely noticed, like those you guys claimed in the old testament. I am talking about Sodom and Gomorrah, the time of Noah, where scores of people died, including children and new born babies. Pleasure my foot.

TAEpiphany:
Religious Human: is the medical journal to be trusted?
Thinking human: Yes
Religious Human: can you give a logical proof?
Thinking human: ***Quotes from the medical journal*** In the book of bla bla bla, do this and do that and you will achieve healing
Religious Human: ***Facepalm


No other proof for the veracity of the medical journals other than the medical journals

You see the point? Any argument for against is pointless.....

jmichlins:
you mean we are all pawns which he plays with. Please defend God the way it will be reasonable. Am not ones play thing

Samadict:

Read again and note the part where I said 'clears it for me'. You are allowed to believe whatever rocks your boat dear but please give your reasonable defence while you are at it. Who can defend Him? He who loved Jacob and disliked Esau while they were still in the womb. He who allowed a man to be born blind for His glory to be known. He who gives children to the concubine but leaves the housewife who married as virgin barren. The One who allowed the calamities that came upon Job. He who hardened the heart of the Egyptian king. He who allowed Judas betray his master and died for the betrayal but prayed for Peter who did worse to receive grace. I don't know who can defend Him. Neither do I know who can comprehend His ways.

seunmsg:




You mean we are all pawns in his playbook? He allows boko haram to kill his own worshippers because it pleasures him. He brought down the church building in Akwa Ibom on people who gathered to worship him because it pleasures him. He inflicts terrible diseases on children and then watch them die in pain because it pleasures him. And, he will burn billions of people who happens to be sinners according to rules from his playbook forever in a place called hellfire because it pleasures him.

Really, you just described a very weird character that I don't want to ever have anything with if your description truly represents him. Seriously, you just make the devil character looks more appealing and the lesser evil. Hell won't be a bad option after all if your description truly represents God.

innoken:

You just earned my respect sir. I thought about your words later and really I must say... There is sense in it..

akintom:
Embarrassed for Jesus

I once had to sort out the rehabilitation of a stroke client, who is a vice president of an international church, with headquarters in Nigeria.

Most of my sessions with him was focused more, on how i can help him out of the depression that got him. He was thoroughly disillusioned, can't understand why a pastor at his level of "anointing", could be down with stroke.

And when he even recovered to the level that he could resume his duties, he still will not resume. His reason was how to cope with the "embarrassing" looks of his members.

Most of the religious folks who came down with complications of DM and HTN, had thrown away their medications, because their pastors instructed them so.

The ignorance of the religious folks, is one of the grave challenges, that faces effective health management in Nigeria today.

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peacesamuel94:



what I meant was that according to the bible, the requirement prayer needs to guarantee answers is Faith. So Prayer doesn't get answered in every case, because not everyone who "appears" to have faith really does.

urheme:


there is divine healing and divine health.....i practice divine health.....it does not mean i don't fall sick......it faze out without drugs.....that is my faith.

divine health and healing should be according to what your faith can carry.......it is not for everybody....christians and non christians practice it......

urheme:
there is divine healing and divine health.....i practice divine health.....it does not mean i don't fall sick......it faze out without drugs.....that is my faith.

Seun:
That's called having a healthy immune system. You eat well, rest well, and your body heals itself. What's your genotype, by the way? Is it AS?

felixomor:
Mscheww.
Body heals itself, yet u grow old and go to the hospital....
Yeah right....

felixomor:


Mscheww.
Body heals itself, yet u grow old and go to the hospital....
Yeah right....

Stop mixing up things....

CatfishBilly:

Sometimes, I wonder if you're really a medic. This is my 2nd time interacting with you on a thread and you ask the most mind boggling questions when it comes to health. The most epic if them all was you asking me the names of the 3 patients that were the burden of proof to confirm that Zika virus is an STD.

CatfishBilly:

Sometimes, I wonder if you're really a medic. This is my 2nd time interacting with you on a thread and you ask the most mind boggling questions when it comes to health. The most epic if them all was you asking me the names of the 3 patients that were the burden of proof to confirm that Zika virus is an STD.

CatfishBilly:

Sometimes, I wonder if you're really a medic. This is my 2nd time interacting with you on a thread and you ask the most mind boggling questions when it comes to health. The most epic if them all was you asking me the names of the 3 patients that were the burden of proof to confirm that Zika virus is an STD.

Seun:
As you grow older, your immune system weakens and you become more vulnerable to sickness. How is this different from "divine health"? Practitioners of "divine health" also suffer from weakness in old age; at some point they'll have to choose between medical treatment and death.

felixomor:


They are different things.
Stop being too desperate to explain things abeg.
Immune system is a different topic entirely.



Even we scientists, cant explain some of the things we witness.

CatfishBilly:

They are not different things, as we get advanced in age, the immune system gets weaker evidenced by cancers becoming more prevalent as people get older because the telomeres get shorter and shorter leading to.errors in replication, mitosis and meiosis. You should know these things.