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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:20am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Henry240: Yet you came shopping to SA despite the availability of your monster. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:25am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Henry120: Then why do you refuse to take Mr Maynier words about the vacant posts of fighter pilots? Maynier says the reply to his question shows that 48% of posts for combat pilots are vacant (29 of 60 posts). It takes seventeen months to train up a combat pilot. In addition, 58 of 167 helicopter pilot posts (34%) are currently vacant. He adds that it takes sixteen months to train a helicopter pilot. Furthermore, 30% of posts for transport pilots are vacant (48 of 156 posts) "and it takes twelve months to train transport pilots." http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-3594/ http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-11203/ 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:26am On Jun 30, 2015 |
FighterPilot:what are you talking about OVERSTAYED......as in overstayed... Like am a Nigerian.., This is NAIRAland..., On this particular thread am just having fun.. .So Mind Your Business... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:28am On Jun 30, 2015 |
ddami: You deserve just to be ignored. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:31am On Jun 30, 2015 |
lionel4power: If its still in design stage why don't they use prototypes like the rest of the modern world until they can say they have a final product. I think proforce don't have a brain at all. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:33am On Jun 30, 2015 |
FighterPilot:and You should be INVISIBLE..... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38am On Jun 30, 2015 |
mzilakazi:You think: Am a MAN, Am a LEZZBIAN. I am d same person behind 3 monikers,, How else will I describe a STUPIDd FOOl if not @mzilakazi 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:46am On Jun 30, 2015 |
DictatorZAR: Proforce is still amateurs in the game of defence industry. The usually don't do designs all that they do is to put on an armour on the chassis of other vehicles. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lekkie073(m): 11:47am On Jun 30, 2015 |
ddami: Omo na wa o! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:14pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
PRODUCTS MADE BY SWEAT AND BLOOD OF SOUTH AFRICANS .....NOT PROUDLY PAKISTAN...CHINA OR WHATEVER 4 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:15pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
SANDF 3 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:29pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
patches689: You were talking about modern tanks, yet you were busy comparing an obsolete T-72 tanks with a modern Challenger tank. patches689: What sense is in that? Like comparing a MiG-21 jet and a Rafale jet. Fool, every time a tank is to be used to describe bad performance, you mention T-72, you mislead people on internet everywhere. Well, that is over now, I have stopped you forever and proved you a liar, I have posted photos of western made MBT Centurion tanks beheaded in battle or roasted like suya meat with it's own ammunition exploding inside it. So, next time you post T-72 flawa, I will reply with photos and videos of British origin Centurion tanks that South Africa uses. Your SANDF army still has about 200 obsolete Centurion tanks armour as Olifants in service today, you belong to the old tank club .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:41pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
patches689: I already proved that wrong on the other thread, there are different ERA types on different T-72 battle tanks. "Kontakt-5 ERA are harder to trigger by the precursor charges of tandem warheads, forcing the producers of tandem ATGMs to allocate more mass to precursor charge and, making an MBT more resistant to tandem HEAT warheads." You spend your time posting personal opinions about T-72, stop misleading people here, when you see Nigerians, be careful what lies you tell. #Educated For Free By Smarter Nigerians . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:50pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
patches689:Are you scared already? Your Navy has only 30 grade points in Africa, submarines your Zulu ass!!! Despite your high military budget of about 4 billion dollars at a relatively peaceful era, facing no external enemy, your military is still trailing and keeps failing. As south Africa sinks high in national debt to prove what she's not, incompetence, quota system render the sandf ineffective. Resolved: Zulus don't have the mental powers to fly advanced aircraft or run a submarine 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Actually most of our tanks are Mk1b and Mk2s that boast advanced composite armour and state of thee art fire control systems. Mk1As are mostly used for displays and target practice for our Rooivalk. 4 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:38pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
jln115: hey dude, stop lying here, we have spent time to thrash out this topic this year. MOST of SANDF Olifants tanks have the old school RHA obsolete armour, ONLY 44 tanks out of about 230 tanks got new passive armour. "The Olifant Mk.1B (Elephant) is an upgraded variant of the Olifant Mk.1A tank. About 44 vehicles were upgraded to the Mk.1B standard." http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk1b.htm What target practice? Your Rooivalks have blown up a whole 150 units of Olifant Mk 1 tanks in target practice? Whom do you wanna fool ? See your almost 200 units of old school Olifant tanks still in service with NO UPGRADE ARMOUR....try fire ATGM missile on your these your obsolete Olifant tanks or let them fight Abrams tank and Challenger tanks, then we will know if your sardine cans are better than a T-72 . 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain:Actually it's 150+ mk1bs and 26 mk2s...I've posted multiple sources through out the year that supported these claims. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:48pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
jln115: LIAR "Olifant Mk.1B is an upgraded variant of the Olifant Mk.1A tank. About 44 vehicles were upgraded to the Mk.1B standard." http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk1b.htm . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:52pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
Thiza: Pakistan and China produce tanks, submarines, and jet fighters, South Africa has NEVER come close to Pakistan's level ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:54pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Why not go and show them to Sudan instead of surrendering to Toyota drivers ? . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:01pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
patches689: 10 anti-aircraft guns available, yet SAS Drakensberg is afraid of one singe NAF Alpha jet that has no single guided weapon. Boko Haram with 2 anti-aircraft guns and no single radar still fight back at NAF Alpha jet, why did South African navy run away from Nigerian air force when you have 20 times better anti-aircraft defences and radar for early warning than Boko Haram ? Means Boko Haram is superior to SANDF Sure, at that base in Sudan, if it was Boko Haram instead of SANDF, there will be no decision to surrender without a fight. I thought your Col. Eben Barlow war master has put Lions courage inside all SANDF men All that the world can see is a Chicken Republic Of South Africa . 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:02pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:09pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain:Jap 44 upgraded in 1991.. .production of the mk1b continued threw out the nineties. You cleverly left out that part in your post you fvcking fraud. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:28pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus, we were discussing modern tanks and TOP ATTACK MUNITIONS A video of the T-72 was posted showing such a top attack I said that modern tanks would not suffer such a catastrophic failure due to superior western engineering when it comes to securing ammunition (blow out bins and ready rounds v the carousel of the T72) You then waded in and tried to defend the T72... even though the T72 was not the topic of discussion.... you waded into the conversation like a 9 year old who just walked into the room and wanted to try talk with the adults!! You were completely off topic!! I told no lies, I wrote no unbiased opion - the T72 is a terrible tank as is proven by its entire combat record. Indisputable fact. You can post all the stuff about the Centurion you want - we bough it 60 years ago when it was a top of the line tank and we have plans to replace it with another top of the line tank (leo2). Unlike Nigeria who bought the obsolete T72 in the year 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain:44 were upgraded in 1991 it say so in your source, production continued threw out the nineties. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:36pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: We know all about ERA And we all know about the performance of the T72 in combat ERA of all variants doesnt do sh1t - even the Milan can penetrate 1000mm of ERA http://www.army-technology.com/projects/milan/ The thickest armor on the T72 is 200mm... so unless you have another 1 METER of ERA ontop of that armor - its going to get penetrated. And because the T72 keeps 22 rounds in a carousel at the base of the crew compartment - any penetration is going to set that off, and guess what the end result is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzPiuYcZeOU It is no lie, it is a terrible terrible tank that has been obliterated in every battle it has fought in. Its not my opinion - IT IS THE CONSENSUS OF TANK ENTHUSIASTS AND MILITARY PERSONNEL THE WORLD OVER You can keep saying "o but, compare it to other tanks of its generation"... fact is, its not fighting in the 1970's its fighting in 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:37pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: Extensive olifant upgrade has been proven many times. Stop wasting our time with old arguments Consult the archives. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:37pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: When did we surrender to toyota drivers? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:37pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
jln115: Nope, the source says : "It entered service with South African National Defense Forces in 1991. About 44 vehicles were upgraded to the Mk.1B standard." http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk1b.htm All that was ever upgraded is 44 units total, date of completing the upgrade is irrelevant, you have ONLY 44, finish ! LIAR LAIR PANTS ON FIRE . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:38pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: Still bragging about scaring off a supply vessel? Shows how little there is to brag about in terms of Nigerian Military achievements |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:38pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
jln115: [size=20pt]#EXPOSED[/size] |
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