agaugust:

Vickers Eagle MBT of both Nigeria and Kenyan armies are digitalized tanks, these are the only two countries that use Vickers Eagle of that version in this world, both countries got 1990s deliveries and had major digital upgrades confirmed with images and narrations from Beegeagle and Military Today website...it has video of the Vickers upgrades used by Nigeria and Kenya.

Both countries do NOT need new MBT now, they need COIN weapons and equipment of the best capability available at reasonable prices in the market.

Merkava main battle tanks won't stop Islamic terrorists b.ombing Kenyan shopping malls. There is a better way to spend $6 million x 40 tanks = $240 million. Kenya needs to buy Nigeria's type of new sophisticated COIN equipment.

Nigerian air force now has fresh delivery of the most sophisticated surveillance aircraft in all Africa , even Egypt is now envying us.

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You wouldn't wanna be stuck with obsolete Vickers MBT when Uganda will soon be splashing more than $400 million on more than 70 T-90 tanks.

Sub-saharan countries are stuck with obsolete main battle tanks,the current ongoing campaigns shouldn't shift defence strategic planning and acquisitions.

Shifting future plans to suite COIN ops will come to sting someone in the as...... really. Cause the next war won't be COIN

Look around Nigeria right now

NaijaPikinGidi:

Recycled photographs that translate to nothing! You are groping for survival here!

No need to bring new ones as you still have nothing to counter them.

MikeZA: You wouldn't wanna be stuck with obsolete Vickers MBT when Uganda will soon be splashing more than $400 million on more than 70 T-90 tanks.

Sub-saharan countries are stuck with obsolete main battle tanks,the current ongoing campaigns shouldn't shift defence strategic planning and acquisitions.

Shifting future plans to suite COIN ops will come to sting someone in the as...... really. Cause the next war won't be COIN

Look around Nigeria right now

There are strange grey colored shiny new 4th Generation jet fighters flying around NAF base TAC Makurdi, seen several times...awaiting announcement from Nigerian air force of the new arrival. Chad is flying only 3 units of old MiG-29 jets flown by white-men mercenary pilots from Ukraine. LOL !

agaugust:

Is it your daddy's money we are spending? Nigeria is an oil and gas rich country. Mind your own business.

You think millions are just made available from nowhere?

Grinding down your equipment numbers add as an advantage to the enemy.

You're spending peanuts on defence loosing million dollar will grind down your capabilities and economy.

This logic is used by your generals whom don't care how many solduetsyr they lose during ops,all they care is meeting mission objectives. Poor command and control.

MikeZA: You think millions are just made available from nowhere?

Grinding down your equipment numbers add as an advantage to the enemy.

You're spending peanuts on defence loosing million dollar will grind down your capabilities and economy.

This logic is used by your generals whom don't care how many solduetsyr they lose during ops,all they care is meeting mission objectives. Poor command and control.

How do you know? South Africa has zero war experience in the past 20 years, your military only knows theory that is written in texbooks of modern warfare, zero practical.

agaugust:

Nigerian ADS links to command and control with other modernization was done by India from 2012 for Nigerian army air defense corp. We have posted that source many times here since 2013.

With radio which can be jammed. Link should bring together or link the Air defence command post,"gunners" or battery commanders,command and control center,air force,ministry of defence,intergrated with civilian aviation radars,different systems(guns,missiles,radar) etc. Real time situational awareness.

And No. India didn't modernize anything.

If they did your air defence artillery unit wouldn't have had to refurbish it's twin barrel ADA guns last year.

MikeZA: With radio which can be jammed. Link should bring together or link the Air defence command post,"gunners" or battery commanders,command and control center,air force,ministry of defence,intergrated with civilian aviation radars,different systems(guns,missiles,radar) etc. Real time situational awareness.

And No. India didn't modernize anything.

If they did your air defence artillery unit wouldn't have had to refurbish it's twin barrel ADA guns last year.

Yes India did it, details classified. You cannot jam what you don't know technically, stop fooling yourself.

http://twocircles.net/2012may17/india_help_boost_nigerias_air_defences.html

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agaugust:

How do you know? South Africa has zero war experience in the past 20 years, your military only knows theory that is written in texbooks of modern warfare, zero practical.

Our military is led by people whom fought in Angola,Zimbabwe,Namibia,Tanzania,Mozambique,Lesotho. The leadership is experienced in conventional and COIN ops.

In the past 20 years Nigeria has never fought
Any full blown war.

MikeZA: Our military is led by people whom fought in Angola,Zimbabwe,Namibia,Tanzania,Mozambique,Lesotho. The leadership is experienced in conventional and COIN ops.

In the past 20 years Nigeria has never fought
Any full blown war.

In the past 20 years till today, Nigeria fought full blown wars against 50,000 Liberian fighters and 70,000 Sierra Leonean fighters...we deployed 20,000 soldiers in NE war today.

99% of South Africa's 30 years ago war that you NEVER won, are dead or run away to Australia.

Okay, maybe ghosts and vampires now lead your SANDF army of dead people.

agaugust:

Yes India did it, details classified. You cannot jam what you don't know technically, stop fooling yourself.

http://twocircles.net/2012may17/india_help_boost_nigerias_air_defences.html

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Radio=waves. Radio can easily be jammed or should I say "disturbed".

India did nothing. Even if they did something it was linking your military radars to civilian ones.

Nigeria has no data links,no new radars and India doesn't produce Skyshield like ADA systems.

agaugust:

99% of SANDF 30 years ago war that you NEVER won, are dead or run away to Australia.

Okay, maybe ghosts and vampires now lead your army of dead people.

Most generals are in their 50s they were officers in back then.

Who did win the war?

Cause it doesn't matter cause both sides whom tried to kill each other are today trading knowledge. From COIN from planning such ops and how to counter them to large scale high tempo conventional warfare.

MikeZA: Radio=waves. Radio can easily be jammed or should I say "disturbed".

India did nothing. Even if they did something it was linking your military radars to civilian ones.

Nigeria has no data links,no new radars and India doesn't produce Skyshield like ADA systems.

About 50% of Nigerian military capability details CANNOT be found by your internet google searches. You are just wasting your time ranting about information of which access has been denied you.

MikeZA: Most generals are in their 50s they were officers in back then.

Most ? Show us proof of their numbers in today's SANDF...most you said? Fool yourself not us. LOL

#SHOW.US.PROOF

agaugust:

In the past 20 years till today, Nigeria fought full blown wars against 50,000 Liberian fighters and 70,000 Sierra Leonean fighters...we deployed 20,000 soldiers in NE war today.

99% of South Africa's 30 years ago war that you NEVER won, are dead or run away to Australia.

Okay, maybe ghosts and vampires now lead your SANDF army of dead people.

Zimbabwe fought rebel forces of bigger numbers too in the DRC.

You fought rebels not well trained armies with proper communications,command and contro,descipline,well equipped with medium armour and heavy weapons. Those bloody cannibals whom run about butt nake.... while fighting?

When your military faces resistance you start breaking the rules of war and commit grouse human rights abuses.

What indesciplined armies do. Similar what Congo soldiers did when M23 hammered them and the Ukrainian and Indian Mi-25/35 couldn't stop the rebel advance.

MikeZA: Most generals are in their 50s they were officers in back then.

Most ? Show us proof of their numbers in today's SANDF...most you said? Fool yourself not us. LOL

#SHOW.US.PROOF

AugustineAgain:

Most ? Show us proof of their numbers in today's SANDF...most you said? Fool yourself not us. LOL

. Around 200.

Some planned infiltrations into SA and bombing. The reason I won't "all" while some came from the homeland forces like the TDF,VDF,BDF etc.

MikeZA: . Around 200.

Some planned infiltrations into SA and bombing. The reason I won't "all" while some came from the homeland forces like the TDF,VDF,BDF etc.

#SHOW.US.PROOF.OF. 200.

MikeZA:
the TDF,VDF,BDF etc.

Rag Tag bushmen hunters...illiterates. LOL

agaugust:

There are strange grey colored shiny new 4th Generation jet fighters flying around NAF base TAC Makurdi, seen several times...awaiting announcement from Nigerian air force of the new arrival. Chad is flying only 3 units of old MiG-29 jets flown by white-men mercenary pilots from Ukraine. LOL !

I hate rumours.

MikeZA: I hate rumours.

I hate ignorance.

Minister of information announced publicly on NTA news that Nigeria ordered new jet fighters in 2012. You don't hear Nigerian news reports.

AugustineAgain:

Rag Tag bushmen hunters...illiterates. LOL

The 31 battalion(bush men) was disbanded like the Buffalo.

Your army is using hunters today to track BH go tell them they're illiterate Looool.

The TDF,BDF,VDF etc were trained by the
SADF. After Rhodesia's Ian Smith government fell in Zimbabwe some soldiers were absorbed into this forces with some officers becoming Chief of staffs. Gaining vast amount of knowledge. This forces were better than your military today.

It is impossible to talk about without mentioning the Selous scouts.

Stop embarrassing your self cause you don't know what you're talking about. Patriotism is causing you to be blind.

AugustineAgain:

Rag Tag bushmen hunters...illiterates. LOL

The 31 battalion(bush men) was disbanded like the Buffalo.

Your army is using hunters today to track BH go tell them they're illiterate Looool.

The TDF,BDF,VDF etc were trained by the
SADF. After Rhodesia's Ian Smith government fell in Zimbabwe some soldiers were absorbed into this forces with some officers becoming Chief of staffs. Gaining vast amount of knowledge. This forces were better than your military today.

It is impossible to talk about COIN without mentioning the Selous scouts.

Stop embarrassing your self cause you don't know what you're talking about. Patriotism is causing you to be blind.

AugustineAgain:

I hate ignorance.

Minister of information announced publicly on NTA news that Nigeria ordered new jet fighters in 2012. You don't hear Nigerian news reports.

An order so what?

Remember when Congo's FARDC ordered upgraded T-62 tanks? Guess where they are today,clue is provided by the picture below.

MikeZA: The 31 battalion(bush men) was disbanded like the Buffalo.

Your army is using hunters today to track BH go tell them they're illiterate Looool.

The TDF,BDF,VDF etc were trained by the
SADF. After Rhodesia's Ian Smith government fell in Zimbabwe some soldiers were absorbed into this forces with some officers becoming Chief of staffs. Gaining vast amount of knowledge. This forces were better than your military today.

It is impossible to talk about COIN without mentioning the Selous scouts.

Stop embarrassing your self cause you don't know what you're talking about. Patriotism is causing you to be blind.

Still a gang of illiterate hunters with bush meat hunting skills, cannot pass exam for corporal rank in standard military academy

MikeZA: An order so what?

Remember when Congo's FARDC ordered upgraded T-62 tanks? Guess where they are today,clue is provided by the picture below.

NAF Chief Of Air Staff announced publicly that Nigeria has taken delivery of new fighter aircraft and will show them to public on NAF Air Expo day later this year...don't be in a hurry...cool down...action dey kampe !

AugustineAgain:

Still a gang of illiterate hunters with bush meat hunting skills, cannot pass exam for corporal rank in standard military academy

Desperate. Here's a legendary Koevoet "hunter" a real master of COIN ops.

Henry120:

Kenya is not getting any merkava MBTs. The price of the merkava is $6 million
box per unit. I don't see the kenyans shelling $6 million for any tank.

Another point, operational experience and or overall force structure. Stand alone, the merkava isn't a great tank, but as a structure with existing platforms, it is one of the best. They don't have compatible systems with any of their existing equipment.

t's not so much about the tank but more about how the tanks work together with the navy, airforce and artillery units.

That force structure doesn't exist in the kenyan military.

That's why I earlier said I'm, not getting involved in this thread. Assertions pulled straight from his arse passed off as expert analysis! Pray,tell,what do you know of our budgetary allocations of force structures? Do you have any idea of the wider E African threat matrix? Do you understand the geopolitical implications of the LAPPSET? Have you even heard of LAPSSET?

MikeZA: Kenya can get surplus tanks from Israeli stocks.

And don't be mistaken the Merkava is a hell of a good tank. And yes,it can integrate well into existing KDF structures.

All you need to do if you're a sophisticated army like the SA army is to modify the communication systems.

I don't expect this from you,mikeZA,read the link! They're the new Merk 4s with the trophy defence,revolving magazine,front mounted 1500 hp engine,smoothbore 120 mm gun and internal 60 mm mortar not the Merk 3 BAZs or 2s!

patches689:

Who is getting the Merk4?

Kenya?

No offence, but the Merk is over-rated IMO.

But hey... its better than a Vickers or Olifant.

Why is the Merk 4 overrated? Please cite expert opinion,preferably from users of top 5 MBTs,the Leopard 2a6,le clerc or abrams who have knowledge.

South Africans keep these photos coming....remember a picture speaks a thousand words and lets show the Naira world that there is nothing world biters about them....they have been dilussional for so long about being amongst the best in Africa