londoner:


They had to build the infrastructure there first and there was plenty of scandal about the world cup there it at the time of building. Any country can, if they have the resources, build any city in SA or anywhere around the world. I agree that the OP is misguided in his comparisons but SA has its down sides just as Nigeria has. At the moment SA's best cities are better than Nigeria's best cities. That's the truth.

I'm assuming that by infrastructure you mean the stadiums and if so,I guess you are not accustomed to the FIFA world cup tradition because if you were you would know that every nation that gets host the event has to build new stadiums,even first world nation like Russia had to build new ones.

I agree both SA and Nigeria have their downs but let's be honest,SA downs seem manageable when compared to what you have at your hands over there.And as for which cities are better,well I don't remember SA being outclassed by any African country when it comes cities or infrastructure as a whole.

Jayceon:
I'm assuming that by infrastructure you mean the stadiums and if so,I guess you are not accustomed to the FIFA world cup tradition because if you were you would know that every nation that gets host the event has to build new stadiums,even first world nation like Russia had to build new ones.

I agree both SA and Nigeria have their downs but let's be honest,SA downs seem manageable when compared to what you have at your hands over there.And as for which cities are better,well I don't remember SA being outclassed by any African country when it comes cities or infrastructure as a whole.

That's what I said. It had to be built. I'm not unaware of how FIFA works there as plenty of media coverage of that fact at the time leading up to completion. Lots of investigative journalism too. As for your second part, is that not exactly what I said? Just because you know my origin is of Nigerian heritage it should not mean you assume my opinions to be anti SA. Just read what I ACTUALLY posted then you would have seen I am saying the EXACT same thing as you.

londoner:


They had to build the infrastructure there first and there was plenty of scandal about the world cup there it at the time of building. Any country can, if they have the resources, build any city in SA or anywhere around the world. I agree that the OP is misguided in his comparisons but SA has its down sides just as Nigeria has. At the moment SA's best cities are better than Nigeria's best cities. That's the truth.

Lol, coming from you this is embarasing. I understand the idiot who created this thread is an unexposed idiot who is bitter her potential man went down south to find a marriagiable partner. Lol@ they had to build infrastructure, sister because I have some respect for you I will desist from calling you stupid. Which country doesn't build infrasture when given the right to host such events as Olympics, fifa world cup, common wealth games etc ? . Russia did , Brazil did it , Germany did it , USA, your "own" UK has done it , so why make it seem like it was unique to SA. Is that same infrasture not beneficial to them? Aren't the best airports in Africa located in SA ? The best stadiums and trust me I was at the Soweto stadium a few months back, it looks as good as did in 2010, the pitch ,the sits and the service at the entrants. Scandals ? Which country doesn't have those when money is involved , in Nigeria we would have had more , I even doubt the facilities would have been finished in time , we both know a simple project takes a 100 years to complete due to corruption , greed and hatred. Or were you talking about the Bribery scandal ? Again it shows you are a learner , USA, England and Germany were also accused of the same , but they are not black so let's excuse them right,? . With all the money we have, why aren't we building such cities then ? . We love to make wild claims to save face , it's embarasing. Ofcourse they have better cities and trust me it's not "for now ", it will be like that for decades and centuries to come . When I first arrived here about 10 years back the richest square meter in Africa was still being constructed but today it's a city within the city of Johannesburg and the place to be for young well to do South Africans. A place like midrand was mostly still underdeveloped but today is home to young middle class people and not even our lekki can out do it . Izombie put it well on the african beautfil cities thread. The slums i found here in some parts of jozi are now developed neighbourhoods for poor people .So when are we going to surpass them, when they are clearly not sitting on their behinds waiting for great Nigeria to take its place as the giant of Africa? . Soweto made history as the first ghetto to host a world cup , that alone speaks to how developed the place is today compared to the sarafina days. We talk too much and do less, they act and do less talking. The op and her followers are busy bragging about 9 hrs of electricity, when South Africans have never seen a generator in their neirghboourhoods let alone listen and tolerate one . It's embarrassing if not amusing. The whole jealousy noise is irritating and old , what are they jealous on when even their small towns could pass for cities in naija? . We are smarter ? Yet the under 30 Forbes list of Africa had more South Africans than Nigerians even though we are 4 times bigger in population. We are more educated, I'm yet to see any proof of this claim. They are illiterates? Yet every report done by various reputable organisation shows we have more illirates and out of school children , the op and her followers are a good example of out failed education sector, comparing Mandela to wizkid >: , now that was a new low for her , after claiming Mandela was Asian in the Kenya thread . I love naija , it's my home but comparing her to SA is a bit of a joke . South Africa is an organised country , while we are chaotic and mediocre , although we could change if we wanted to . When will we have juliasmalema or dlozi or people like that ? I don't follow their politics well but I'm amazed at how much following their group has in all provinces /states without caring about what tribe dominates which place ,cab that be in naija . The new president of SA is venda , it's a minority group not even top 5 in SA , but they didn't care about that they embraced him, and we are busy forming mouth when we all know we would never try that because tribalism and corruption come first to us . South Africa has her own problems, but the big difference is that they are taking bold steps to address them, the youth is politically conscious and involved , even their secondary school children get involved in politics and protests while ours are looking to learn Yahoo and forming smart . You say their are salty? I don't really know what that means , but I know South Africans do no like Nigerians, it's not jealousy but a strong dislike of our culture and disgusting behaviour . It's not only South Africans but most countries , can we please look at why we are always hated wherever we go ?!And stop blaming others and lying to ourselves that they are jealous of our delusional greatness . If you saw most Nigerians in SA, you would understand why these people think less of us or see and treat us like dogs. It's embarrassing to even call yourself a nigerian as no one will want to work with you because you will steal or do something shaddy to earn more and run away to naija. We have created this reputation for ourselves . No one wants to rent out their homes to us in saner communities we are left to rent rundown uncared for dangerous places because we are dirty , loud and mannerless . Why us ? When ghananians here are seen as scholars ,rich in culture and honest people? . My cousin is inn a jail in Durban, he came in as a student as well but befriended Nigerians and now all of them are rotting , and he didn't even lack but was greedy and lazy, wanting to put in little work and get more out of it . I'm really tired of our people in foreign countries . It's too embarrassing.

Timewilltell2:
Kenya , Ghana , South Africa,botswana?

Besides the fact that,

1.We are smarter than them.
2. We are more good looking and lighter skin.
3. Our country is better developed than them.
4 . Majority of them live in slums .
5. We have better sports especially football.
6. We have more talented musicians and are the only ones representing Africa internatially. Bet , ring a bell?
7. Our movies are well reknowed and loved.
8. We have some of the best universities in Africa.
9. Our country is the biggest in Africa.
10. We have the biggest GDP.
11. Our men have bigger joysticks.
12. We are loud and intimidating and talk better than them.
13. We speak better English.
14. We have the most famous people, who can dwarf the names of fela ,sonyika wizkid ,davido, in this continent?.
15. We are more industrious .
16. We are more travelled and exposed .
17. We own more passports.
18. We have more cities than them with good economy.
19. Our men are not lazy, they don't expect us to work , they do everything for us.
20. We drive better cars , naija has the biggest car market.
21. We have more higher middle class people.
22. We have more rich and classy people, and women are expensive.
23. When Nigeria sneeze the whole continent comes to a stand still.
24. We enjoy at least 9 hrs of electricity.
25. We are the most literate in the continent and possible the world.
26. We have helped many of them.
27. We go to their countries and dominate everything because they are scared of our loud personality.
28. When white people think of Africa, they think Nigeria and not them.
29. Most white people visit Nigeria and want to stay because they love our culture and choose to marry us more than them.


Please add yours .

I seriously think you are the most idiotic person on this forum.

1. Smarter in what way , can we prove this foolish fairytale?
2. LMAO, really? You are comparing the african headquarters of yellow bones and booty to what ? Bleached skin and fake asses . I'm sorry to burst your bubble but outside of the horn of Africa and Rwanda, I'm yet to meet girls that can threaten SA women in looks. Not to talk of bleached girls .
3. O.m.g better what ? . A South African ghetto would be paradise to the avarage nigerian; water , uninterrupted power , good roads , good schools, good free healthcare . Do you know what develoment means? .
4. Lol, you are seriously dumb, where are you getting this info from, when it's our people who dominate slums in Africa. What you think is a proper neigjboohod might regarded as a slum in healthier nations. Look at what we call middle class neighboourhoods in naija ,in south africa they would be considered less than poor places.
5.We are better in football , but they participate in a variety of sports than us. They football league is the most advanced in Africa, in terms of organisation ,sponsorhip and of course salaries , hence less desparation for them to go to Europe,they can be millionaires on their own shores .
6.LMAO, this is another embarrassing one. Miriam makeba ( mama Africa) was the first African to commercialise African music also the only one to perform at the inauguration of the United States of America. Can wizkid talk when lucky dube, Brenda fassie are mentioned . South Africa has about 9 Grammy awards you farm tool, how many we get ? . They have won even the BET that you are celebrating . They have been making music , I mean great music for far too long and are much known and respected internationally. Black coffee the only African to be voted worlds best dj. We are learners with big mouths.
7. Lol, loved by whom ? I like some of our movies , they remind me of home, but let's not delude ourselves, our movies are mediocre and low quality hence no great international award yet. South Africa and Kenya have Oscars.
8.Lol, don't even know how to react to this lunacy. My dear you claim to be a graduate and you created a silly thread like this , that is a good reflection of not only our universities but the whole education sector.
9.in population only. Tanzania , Algeria SA ,Ethiopia, Sudan to name a few are bigger in landmass with less people.
10. One would argue on paper , I bet the 70% of our people suffering extreme poverty would curse your liniage for this.
11. Lol, o.m.g . People still reason like this ? . How many foreign joysticks have you tried ?. Disgusting .
12. More like loud and irritating without any substance .actually these people look down on us because of what you are celebrating, it's very unclassy and uncultured zoo like behaviour.
13. I've heard better English from South Africans and ghananians. Plus SA has her own 11 languages to be proud of.
14. Nelson Mandela, Winnie Mandela, Desmond tutu , Charlie's theron, botha, fw dekerk, Miriam makeba , dj black coffee , do maphorisa, Steve biko, shaka Zulu, koffi Anan, lupita nyongo, salif kheita, fali ipupa, Brenda fassie, Oliver mtukizi, Trevor Noah, just to name a few my clueless sister .
15. Like I said before , South Africa dominated the list of influential young people in Forbes Africa and other smaller nations gave us a good run for our money. So what do you mean by being more industrious?
16. Travelled , I could agree but not exposed abeg. We behave the same everywhere that should tell you something .
17. Yes , because we all want to escape the hardships of naija . The brits own less than 40% because their country is good and they are content . And so are South Africans and other nations .
18. LMAO this is ridiculous. Google, port Elizabeth, bloemfontein, polokwane, Kimberly, east London, George, stellenbosvh, paarl , petermaritburg , welkom to name a few and come tell me what the fck you are smoking .
19. I can certainly say , in saner countries a woman who said what you said would be seen as an embarrassment. So naija girls dependency on men is now a badge of honour?
20. Lmfao , the cars on naija roads would be declared a health hazard in SA trust me . Stop lying , SA alone consumes 50% of new cars in Africa. On the Kenya thread you were shown 7000 in naija , 12000 in Kenya and about 360000 in SA, which shows who the real middle class countries are .
21. The point above says otherwise though and our standards of living, leave a lot to be desired compared to them. Go check hdi and hang your head in shame.
22. We have more billionaires who made their riches through political affiliations not using their brains , just like in SA they have more white billionaires who looted the apartheid government, no geniuses yet. Don't lie, South Africa and Egypt have more miionaires , Nigeria completes with the likes of Kenya who are 4 or 5 times smaller in numbers. That should tell us something. Classy? How did you get here . Lol, by expensive you mean women like you who can't love without getting paid to do so ? . No thank you. You will only get my respect when you can stand on your own two feet, I'm no ones horse . You are the reason other men look down at us , as people who buy girlfriends instead of wooing them with personality.
23. Lmfao, fantasies. Nigerians are the most illtreated people in the continent and the world. We sneeze all the time and no one cares.
24. When Kenyans and ghananians are looking at getting where SA is , we have lunatics like yourself rejoicing of 9hrs ? .
25. Lol, you should just go back to school, in a proper country this time lol.
26. Past glory isn't going to salvage our current doggy reputation.
27. Lol, what do we dominate exactly in these countries besides a huge number of lawless people with loud mouths and desperate tendencies ? No one is scared of us, they are just weary and irritated that we are in their countries.
28. When white people think Nigeria, they think drugs and scams .
29. Lol, SA, Kenya, Egypt, Morocco, Botswana etc are the most visited places in Africa not naija. Last time I checked SA has the highest number of white people and the highest number of biracial children and mixed race people. Anyways who cares about marrying whites? Stupid village girl.

londoner:


That's what I said. It had to be built. I'm not unaware of how FIFA works there as plenty of media coverage of that fact at the time leading up to completion. Lots of investigative journalism too. As for your second part, is that not exactly what I said? Just because you know my origin is of Nigerian heritage it should not mean you assume my opinions to be anti SA. Just read what I ACTUALLY posted then you would have seen I am saying the EXACT same thing as you.

Mr Londoner,you made it sound like building new infrastructure for FIFA world cup was only unique to South Africa,like something you never heard of before and that is why I had to check if you really understand what is required of EVERY country that gets to host that magnificent event.And there were no scandals during the build-up to the world cup,I don't know where you got that from.There were doubts of whether we really had what it takes to host a successful world cup of course.

I never said you are anti SA,I was just letting you know (even tho I know you already know this FACT) that there is no country in Africa that was,is and will ever be better than South Africa,it's not just FOR NOW as you put it but for centuries to come.just check the numbers of tourists that visit this country yearly,numbers do not lie

Runalong333:




Lol, coming from you this is embarasing. I understand the idiot who created this thread is an unexposed idiot who is bitter her potential man went down south to find a marriagiable partner. Lol@ they had to build infrastructure, sister because I have some respect for you I will desist from calling you stupid. Which country doesn't build infrasture when given the right to host such events as Olympics, fifa world cup, common wealth games etc ? . Russia did , Brazil did it , Germany did it , USA, your "own" UK has done it , so why make it seem like it was unique to SA. Is that same infrasture not beneficial to them? Aren't the best airports in Africa located in SA ? The best stadiums and trust me I was at the Soweto stadium a few months back, it looks as good as did in 2010, the pitch ,the sits and the service at the entrants. Scandals ? Which country doesn't have those when money is involved , in Nigeria we would have had more , I even doubt the facilities would have been finished in time , we both know a simple project takes a 100 years to complete due to corruption , greed and hatred. Or were you talking about the Bribery scandal ? Again it shows you are a learner , USA, England and Germany were also accused of the same , but they are not black so let's excuse them right,? . With all the money we have, why aren't we building such cities then ? . We love to make wild claims to save face , it's embarasing. Ofcourse they have better cities and trust me it's not "for now ", it will be like that for decades and centuries to come . When I first arrived here about 10 years back the richest square meter in Africa was still being constructed but today it's a city within the city of Johannesburg and the place to be for young well to do South Africans. A place like midrand was mostly still underdeveloped but today is home to young middle class people and not even our lekki can out do it . Izombie put it well on the african beautfil cities thread. The slums i found here in some parts of jozi are now developed neighbourhoods for poor people .So when are we going to surpass them, when they are clearly not sitting on their behinds waiting for great Nigeria to take its place as the giant of Africa? . Soweto made history as the first ghetto to host a world cup , that alone speaks to how developed the place is today compared to the sarafina days. We talk too much and do less, they act and do less talking. The op and her followers are busy bragging about 9 hrs of electricity, when South Africans have never seen a generator in their neirghboourhoods let alone listen and tolerate one . It's embarrassing if not amusing. The whole jealousy noise is irritating and old , what are they jealous on when even their small towns could pass for cities in naija? . We are smarter ? Yet the under 30 Forbes list of Africa had more South Africans than Nigerians even though we are 4 times bigger in population. We are more educated, I'm yet to see any proof of this claim. They are illiterates? Yet every report done by various reputable organisation shows we have more illirates and out of school children , the op and her followers are a good example of out failed education sector, comparing Mandela to wizkid >: , now that was a new low for her , after claiming Mandela was Asian in the Kenya thread . I love naija , it's my home but comparing her to SA is a bit of a joke . South Africa is an organised country , while we are chaotic and mediocre , although we could change if we wanted to . When will we have juliasmalema or dlozi or people like that ? I don't follow their politics well but I'm amazed at how much following their group has in all provinces /states without caring about what tribe dominates which place ,cab that be in naija . The new president of SA is venda , it's a minority group not even top 5 in SA , but they didn't care about that they embraced him, and we are busy forming mouth when we all know we would never try that because tribalism and corruption come first to us . South Africa has her own problems, but the big difference is that they are taking bold steps to address them, the youth is politically conscious and involved , even their secondary school children get involved in politics and protests while ours are looking to learn Yahoo and forming smart . You say their are salty? I don't really know what that means , but I know South Africans do no like Nigerians, it's not jealousy but a strong dislike of our culture and disgusting behaviour . It's not only South Africans but most countries , can we please look at why we are always hated wherever we go ?!And stop blaming others and lying to ourselves that they are jealous of our delusional greatness . If you saw most Nigerians in SA, you would understand why these people think less of us or see and treat us like dogs. It's embarrassing to even call yourself a nigerian as no one will want to work with you because you will steal or do something shaddy to earn more and run away to naija. We have created this reputation for ourselves . No one wants to rent out their homes to us in saner communities we are left to rent rundown uncared for dangerous places because we are dirty , loud and mannerless . Why us ? When ghananians here are seen as scholars ,rich in culture and honest people? . My cousin is inn a jail in Durban, he came in as a student as well but befriended Nigerians and now all of them are rotting , and he didn't even lack but was greedy and lazy, wanting to put in little work and get more out of it . I'm really tired of our people in foreign countries . It's too embarrassing.

cold hard facts! I applaud you for being honest.

Runalong333:


I seriously think you are the most idiotic person on this forum.

1. Smarter in what way , can we prove this foolish fairytale?
2. LMAO, really? You are comparing the african headquarters of yellow bones and booty to what ? Bleached skin and fake asses . I'm sorry to burst your bubble but outside of the horn of Africa and Rwanda, I'm yet to meet girls that can threaten SA women in looks. Not to talk of bleached girls .
3. O.m.g better what ? . A South African ghetto would be paradise to the avarage nigerian; water , uninterrupted power , good roads , good schools, good free healthcare . Do you know what develoment means? .
4. Lol, you are seriously dumb, where are you getting this info from, when it's our people who dominate slums in Africa. What you think is a proper neigjboohod might regarded as a slum in healthier nations. Look at what we call middle class neighboourhoods in naija ,in south africa they would be considered less than poor places.
5.We are better in football , but they participate in a variety of sports than us. They football league is the most advanced in Africa, in terms of organisation ,sponsorhip and of course salaries , hence less desparation for them to go to Europe,they can be millionaires on their own shores .
6.LMAO, this is another embarrassing one. Miriam makeba ( mama Africa) was the first African to commercialise African music also the only one to perform at the inauguration of the United States of America. Can wizkid talk when lucky dube, Brenda fassie are mentioned . South Africa has about 9 Grammy awards you farm tool, how many we get ? . They have won even the BET that you are celebrating . They have been making music , I mean great music for far too long and are much known and respected internationally. Black coffee the only African to be voted worlds best dj. We are learners with big mouths.
7. Lol, loved by whom ? I like some of our movies , they remind me of home, but let's not delude ourselves, our movies are mediocre and low quality hence no great international award yet. South Africa and Kenya have Oscars.
8.Lol, don't even know how to react to this lunacy. My dear you claim to be a graduate and you created a silly thread like this , that is a good reflection of not only our universities but the whole education sector.
9.in population only. Tanzania , Algeria SA ,Ethiopia, Sudan to name a few are bigger in landmass with less people.
10. One would argue on paper , I bet the 70% of our people suffering extreme poverty would curse your liniage for this.
11. Lol, o.m.g . People still reason like this ? . How many foreign joysticks have you tried ?. Disgusting .
12. More like loud and irritating without any substance .actually these people look down on us because of what you are celebrating, it's very unclassy and uncultured zoo like behaviour.
13. I've heard better English from South Africans and ghananians. Plus SA has her own 11 languages to be proud of.
14. Nelson Mandela, Winnie Mandela, Desmond tutu , Charlie's theron, botha, fw dekerk, Miriam makeba , dj black coffee , do maphorisa, Steve biko, shaka Zulu, koffi Anan, lupita nyongo, salif kheita, fali ipupa, Brenda fassie, Oliver mtukizi, Trevor Noah, just to name a few my clueless sister .
15. Like I said before , South Africa dominated the list of influential young people in Forbes Africa and other smaller nations gave us a good run for our money. So what do you mean by being more industrious?
16. Travelled , I could agree but not exposed abeg. We behave the same everywhere that should tell you something .
17. Yes , because we all want to escape the hardships of naija . The brits own less than 40% because their country is good and they are content . And so are South Africans and other nations .
18. LMAO this is ridiculous. Google, port Elizabeth, bloemfontein, polokwane, Kimberly, east London, George, stellenbosvh, paarl , petermaritburg , welkom to name a few and come tell me what the fck you are smoking .
19. I can certainly say , in saner countries a woman who said what you said would be seen as an embarrassment. So naija girls dependency on men is now a badge of honour?
20. Lmfao , the cars on naija roads would be declared a health hazard in SA trust me . Stop lying , SA alone consumes 50% of new cars in Africa. On the Kenya thread you were shown 7000 in naija , 12000 in Kenya and about 360000 in SA, which shows who the real middle class countries are .
21. The point above says otherwise though and our standards of living, leave a lot to be desired compared to them. Go check hdi and hang your head in shame.
22. We have more billionaires who made their riches through political affiliations not using their brains , just like in SA they have more white billionaires who looted the apartheid government, no geniuses yet. Don't lie, South Africa and Egypt have more miionaires , Nigeria completes with the likes of Kenya who are 4 or 5 times smaller in numbers. That should tell us something. Classy? How did you get here . Lol, by expensive you mean women like you who can't love without getting paid to do so ? . No thank you. You will only get my respect when you can stand on your own two feet, I'm no ones horse . You are the reason other men look down at us , as people who buy girlfriends instead of wooing them with personality.
23. Lmfao, fantasies. Nigerians are the most illtreated people in the continent and the world. We sneeze all the time and no one cares.
24. When Kenyans and ghananians are looking at getting where SA is , we have lunatics like yourself rejoicing of 9hrs ? .
25. Lol, you should just go back to school, in a proper country this time lol.
26. Past glory isn't going to salvage our current doggy reputation.
27. Lol, what do we dominate exactly in these countries besides a huge number of lawless people with loud mouths and desperate tendencies ? No one is scared of us, they are just weary and irritated that we are in their countries.
28. When white people think Nigeria, they think drugs and scams .
29. Lol, SA, Kenya, Egypt, Morocco, Botswana etc are the most visited places in Africa not naija. Last time I checked SA has the highest number of white people and the highest number of biracial children and mixed race people. Anyways who cares about marrying whites? Stupid village girl.

I've been trying to say this all along but you've captured all I wanted to say so well. We need to be honest with ourselves

KeyserSoze1:
I've been trying to say this all along but you've captured all I wanted to say so well. We need to be honest with ourselves

My brother, it's true we need to face the truth. We are always looking down on those doing better and attacking them. If you look closely, it's self hatred more than anything. Every African nation that has something good , we hate on them and call them all sort of thing, but we love the likes of togo, Zimbabwe, why ? They are doing badly than us currently but when they start to prosper we will flood them and do our usual wahala and when they start reacting negatively to our presence, we will shout jealousy , xenophobic attack etc . But why can't we look at why we are always disliked . When I talk to older Nigerians here in south Africa who came here when Mandela was in charge, they tell me how they were respected and welcomed in all communities and there were no stereotypes of them. They only got stupid questions like why your hair looks like that, why are you guys so dark , do you work in mines over there or stay under the sun the whole day . But they understood it was no insult but lack of exposure to Africa since South Africans never see any black person before, many thought they were the only Africans in the world . Every black foreigner had to answer Ghana , i was surprised but my wife says the first black people they saw here were Ghana people so they assumed everyone who is a black foreigner is from Ghana lol. Then we our usual gang discovered the country and the rest is history.

londoner:


Mandela and WizKid have nothing to do with one another. Mandela is more well known and a legend with a legacy that shaped history even with his mistakes. WizKid is doing very well just like many other Nigerian artists so there is no relation between the two.

It's not jealousy because if the only thing to change was nationality they would not have an issue at all. They are not jealous they are simply salty.

You clearly don't know wizkid has been booked for performance in many first world country like London and America? . Even the Russia world cup, but have was too busy to go.


At embolded, then you agree they are embarrassed about their nationality and wish to be nigerian. Is that no jealousy .

Runalong333:




Lol, coming from you this is embarasing. I understand the idiot who created this thread is an unexposed idiot who is bitter her potential man went down south to find a marriagiable partner. Lol@ they had to build infrastructure, sister because I have some respect for you I will desist from calling you stupid. Which country doesn't build infrasture when given the right to host such events as Olympics, fifa world cup, common wealth games etc ? . Russia did , Brazil did it , Germany did it , USA, your "own" UK has done it , so why make it seem like it was unique to SA. Is that same infrasture not beneficial to them? Aren't the best airports in Africa located in SA ? The best stadiums and trust me I was at the Soweto stadium a few months back, it looks as good as did in 2010, the pitch ,the sits and the service at the entrants. Scandals ? Which country doesn't have those when money is involved , in Nigeria we would have had more , I even doubt the facilities would have been finished in time , we both know a simple project takes a 100 years to complete due to corruption , greed and hatred. Or were you talking about the Bribery scandal ? Again it shows you are a learner , USA, England and Germany were also accused of the same , but they are not black so let's excuse them right,? . With all the money we have, why aren't we building such cities then ? . We love to make wild claims to save face , it's embarasing. Ofcourse they have better cities and trust me it's not "for now ", it will be like that for decades and centuries to come . When I first arrived here about 10 years back the richest square meter in Africa was still being constructed but today it's a city within the city of Johannesburg and the place to be for young well to do South Africans. A place like midrand was mostly still underdeveloped but today is home to young middle class people and not even our lekki can out do it . Izombie put it well on the african beautfil cities thread. The slums i found here in some parts of jozi are now developed neighbourhoods for poor people .So when are we going to surpass them, when they are clearly not sitting on their behinds waiting for great Nigeria to take its place as the giant of Africa? . Soweto made history as the first ghetto to host a world cup , that alone speaks to how developed the place is today compared to the sarafina days. We talk too much and do less, they act and do less talking. The op and her followers are busy bragging about 9 hrs of electricity, when South Africans have never seen a generator in their neirghboourhoods let alone listen and tolerate one . It's embarrassing if not amusing. The whole jealousy noise is irritating and old , what are they jealous on when even their small towns could pass for cities in naija? . We are smarter ? Yet the under 30 Forbes list of Africa had more South Africans than Nigerians even though we are 4 times bigger in population. We are more educated, I'm yet to see any proof of this claim. They are illiterates? Yet every report done by various reputable organisation shows we have more illirates and out of school children , the op and her followers are a good example of out failed education sector, comparing Mandela to wizkid >: , now that was a new low for her , after claiming Mandela was Asian in the Kenya thread . I love naija , it's my home but comparing her to SA is a bit of a joke . South Africa is an organised country , while we are chaotic and mediocre , although we could change if we wanted to . When will we have juliasmalema or dlozi or people like that ? I don't follow their politics well but I'm amazed at how much following their group has in all provinces /states without caring about what tribe dominates which place ,cab that be in naija . The new president of SA is venda , it's a minority group not even top 5 in SA , but they didn't care about that they embraced him, and we are busy forming mouth when we all know we would never try that because tribalism and corruption come first to us . South Africa has her own problems, but the big difference is that they are taking bold steps to address them, the youth is politically conscious and involved , even their secondary school children get involved in politics and protests while ours are looking to learn Yahoo and forming smart . You say their are salty? I don't really know what that means , but I know South Africans do no like Nigerians, it's not jealousy but a strong dislike of our culture and disgusting behaviour . It's not only South Africans but most countries , can we please look at why we are always hated wherever we go ?!And stop blaming others and lying to ourselves that they are jealous of our delusional greatness . If you saw most Nigerians in SA, you would understand why these people think less of us or see and treat us like dogs. It's embarrassing to even call yourself a nigerian as no one will want to work with you because you will steal or do something shaddy to earn more and run away to naija. We have created this reputation for ourselves . No one wants to rent out their homes to us in saner communities we are left to rent rundown uncared for dangerous places because we are dirty , loud and mannerless . Why us ? When ghananians here are seen as scholars ,rich in culture and honest people? . My cousin is inn a jail in Durban, he came in as a student as well but befriended Nigerians and now all of them are rotting , and he didn't even lack but was greedy and lazy, wanting to put in little work and get more out of it . I'm really tired of our people in foreign countries . It's too embarrassing.

You are an embarrassment to Nigeria and a slowpoke. You hate your own country even your cousin all in the name of ass licking a xenophobic wife and nation . You are not a man. Satanic bastard of an igbo illiterate bytch

Runalong333:


I seriously think you are the most idiotic person on this forum.

1. Smarter in what way , can we prove this foolish fairytale?
2. LMAO, really? You are comparing the african headquarters of yellow bones and booty to what ? Bleached skin and fake asses . I'm sorry to burst your bubble but outside of the horn of Africa and Rwanda, I'm yet to meet girls that can threaten SA women in looks. Not to talk of bleached girls .
3. O.m.g better what ? . A South African ghetto would be paradise to the avarage nigerian; water , uninterrupted power , good roads , good schools, good free healthcare . Do you know what develoment means? .
4. Lol, you are seriously dumb, where are you getting this info from, when it's our people who dominate slums in Africa. What you think is a proper neigjboohod might regarded as a slum in healthier nations. Look at what we call middle class neighboourhoods in naija ,in south africa they would be considered less than poor places.
5.We are better in football , but they participate in a variety of sports than us. They football league is the most advanced in Africa, in terms of organisation ,sponsorhip and of course salaries , hence less desparation for them to go to Europe,they can be millionaires on their own shores .
6.LMAO, this is another embarrassing one. Miriam makeba ( mama Africa) was the first African to commercialise African music also the only one to perform at the inauguration of the United States of America. Can wizkid talk when lucky dube, Brenda fassie are mentioned . South Africa has about 9 Grammy awards you farm tool, how many we get ? . They have won even the BET that you are celebrating . They have been making music , I mean great music for far too long and are much known and respected internationally. Black coffee the only African to be voted worlds best dj. We are learners with big mouths.
7. Lol, loved by whom ? I like some of our movies , they remind me of home, but let's not delude ourselves, our movies are mediocre and low quality hence no great international award yet. South Africa and Kenya have Oscars.
8.Lol, don't even know how to react to this lunacy. My dear you claim to be a graduate and you created a silly thread like this , that is a good reflection of not only our universities but the whole education sector.
9.in population only. Tanzania , Algeria SA ,Ethiopia, Sudan to name a few are bigger in landmass with less people.
10. One would argue on paper , I bet the 70% of our people suffering extreme poverty would curse your liniage for this.
11. Lol, o.m.g . People still reason like this ? . How many foreign joysticks have you tried ?. Disgusting .
12. More like loud and irritating without any substance .actually these people look down on us because of what you are celebrating, it's very unclassy and uncultured zoo like behaviour.
13. I've heard better English from South Africans and ghananians. Plus SA has her own 11 languages to be proud of.
14. Nelson Mandela, Winnie Mandela, Desmond tutu , Charlie's theron, botha, fw dekerk, Miriam makeba , dj black coffee , do maphorisa, Steve biko, shaka Zulu, koffi Anan, lupita nyongo, salif kheita, fali ipupa, Brenda fassie, Oliver mtukizi, Trevor Noah, just to name a few my clueless sister .
15. Like I said before , South Africa dominated the list of influential young people in Forbes Africa and other smaller nations gave us a good run for our money. So what do you mean by being more industrious?
16. Travelled , I could agree but not exposed abeg. We behave the same everywhere that should tell you something .
17. Yes , because we all want to escape the hardships of naija . The brits own less than 40% because their country is good and they are content . And so are South Africans and other nations .
18. LMAO this is ridiculous. Google, port Elizabeth, bloemfontein, polokwane, Kimberly, east London, George, stellenbosvh, paarl , petermaritburg , welkom to name a few and come tell me what the fck you are smoking .
19. I can certainly say , in saner countries a woman who said what you said would be seen as an embarrassment. So naija girls dependency on men is now a badge of honour?
20. Lmfao , the cars on naija roads would be declared a health hazard in SA trust me . Stop lying , SA alone consumes 50% of new cars in Africa. On the Kenya thread you were shown 7000 in naija , 12000 in Kenya and about 360000 in SA, which shows who the real middle class countries are .
21. The point above says otherwise though and our standards of living, leave a lot to be desired compared to them. Go check hdi and hang your head in shame.
22. We have more billionaires who made their riches through political affiliations not using their brains , just like in SA they have more white billionaires who looted the apartheid government, no geniuses yet. Don't lie, South Africa and Egypt have more miionaires , Nigeria completes with the likes of Kenya who are 4 or 5 times smaller in numbers. That should tell us something. Classy? How did you get here . Lol, by expensive you mean women like you who can't love without getting paid to do so ? . No thank you. You will only get my respect when you can stand on your own two feet, I'm no ones horse . You are the reason other men look down at us , as people who buy girlfriends instead of wooing them with personality.
23. Lmfao, fantasies. Nigerians are the most illtreated people in the continent and the world. We sneeze all the time and no one cares.
24. When Kenyans and ghananians are looking at getting where SA is , we have lunatics like yourself rejoicing of 9hrs ? .
25. Lol, you should just go back to school, in a proper country this time lol.
26. Past glory isn't going to salvage our current doggy reputation.
27. Lol, what do we dominate exactly in these countries besides a huge number of lawless people with loud mouths and desperate tendencies ? No one is scared of us, they are just weary and irritated that we are in their countries.
28. When white people think Nigeria, they think drugs and scams .
29. Lol, SA, Kenya, Egypt, Morocco, Botswana etc are the most visited places in Africa not naija. Last time I checked SA has the highest number of white people and the highest number of biracial children and mixed race people. Anyways who cares about marrying whites? Stupid village girl.

I don't have time to respond to foolishness , you are too unintelligent for me. I hope your ugly fat stupid head get xenophobia soon. Fool

Timewilltell2:





You are an embarrassment to Nigeria and a slowpoke. You hate your own country even your cousin all in the name of ass licking a xenophobic wife and nation . You are not a man. Satanic bastard of an igbo illiterate bytch

you are too bitter, no wonder he left you for a south African girl

Timewilltell2:





I don't have time to respond to foolishness , you are too unintelligent for me. I hope your ugly fat stupid head get xenophobia soon. Fool

You mean you are too stupid to comprehend what i wrote

Runalong333:



My brother, it's true we need to face the truth. We are always looking down on those doing better and attacking them. If you look closely, it's self hatred more than anything. Every African nation that has something good , we hate on them and call them all sort of thing, but we love the likes of togo, Zimbabwe, why ? They are doing badly than us currently but when they start to prosper we will flood them and do our usual wahala and when they start reacting negatively to our presence, we will shout jealousy , xenophobic attack etc . But why can't we look at why we are always disliked . When I talk to older Nigerians here in south Africa who came here when Mandela was in charge, they tell me how they were respected and welcomed in all communities and there were no stereotypes of them. They only got stupid questions like why your hair looks like that, why are you guys so dark , do you work in mines over there or stay under the sun the whole day . But they understood it was no insult but lack of exposure to Africa since South Africans never see any black person before, many thought they were the only Africans in the world . Every black foreigner had to answer Ghana , i was surprised but my wife says the first black people they saw here were Ghana people so they assumed everyone who is a black foreigner is from Ghana lol. Then we our usual gang discovered the country and the rest is history.

The bolded part is not true lol. Because some of our freedom fighters were exiled in other African countries, so it was well-known that there was "another world", outside of our little bubble. Plus we had TVs & radios I think our idea/perception of Africa though was perhaps slightly skewed & corrupted. Because 1st of all, in contrary to popular belief, there was NEVER a famine in South Africa, in recent generations. We always had food. But when you turn on the TV, you'd see black people in "other countries" (as we called it back then), looking skinny with flies all over their faces etc. Ethiopia is one such example. There was a disconnect emotionally & mentally, because if you took away our own struggle (which was Apartheid), South Africans lived almost "perfect" lives by comparison. We were almost like house pets, pampered in every other way I still remember as a child, a neighbour just had a baby. But the baby was born premature, so it spent weeks in hospital, inside an incubator. When it was time for the baby to come home, the mother of the baby took me with her to the hospital. Back then, if you just had a baby, the hospital gave you the baby's "coming-out-of-the-hospital" clothes (pink for girls & blue for boys), plus a few other necessities. So as fùcked up as the system was, it was good in other ways. The doctors & nurses were nicer. As a child, you'd never leave a hospital without a lollipop from a doctor. Those are some of the reasons why we felt so out-of-touch with the rest of Africa. We knew we were in the same continent, but by all accounts, we lived completely different lives. We might as well could have been from two completely different planets.

Ghanaians & Zimbabweans aside, Somalis were also one of the 1st immigrants in South Africa. Now they really looked different! It was almost like looking at something from outer space. TBH, we were intrigued by all these people coming in. Most of them looked a little strange & their smells (natural scents) were even stranger Somalis & Zimbabweans sold clothes. Zimbabweans gave away their homemade clothes for free, in return for 2nd hand clothes. Because we had better clothes Somalis mostly sold sneakers & jeans. Both clothes smelled funky lol. It was not unusual for people to wash the new clothes brought/got from Zimbabweans & Somalis before actually putting them on. I'd say we were snobbish or suspicious in a way.

So yeah, just wanted to tell it from the inside, looking out.

Runalong333:



You mean you are too stupid to comprehend what i wrote

She doesn't have the mental capacity to challenge your assertions with a coherent write-up.

Timewilltell2:





I don't have time to respond to foolishness , you are too unintelligent for me. I hope your ugly fat stupid head get xenophobia soon. Fool

but you just responded, LOL . Who's the unintelligent one now?

Timewilltell2:





You are an embarrassment to Nigeria and a slowpoke. You hate your own country even your cousin all in the name of ass licking a xenophobic wife and nation . You are not a man. Satanic bastard of an igbo illiterate bytch

I was expecting a mature response. What the hell was I thinking?

.

Timewilltell2:





You are an embarrassment to Nigeria and a slowpoke. You hate your own country even your cousin all in the name of ass licking a xenophobic wife and nation . You are not a man. Satanic bastard of an igbo illiterate bytch

u are not that bright are u? That guy is not a Nigerian. I thought u could have figured it by now. SMH for you

XhosaNostra:


The bolded part is not true lol. Because some of our freedom fighters were exiled in other African countries, so it was well-known that there was "another world", outside of our little bubble. Plus we had TVs & radios I think our idea/perception of Africa though was perhaps slightly skewed & corrupted. Because 1st of all, in contrary to popular belief, there was NEVER a famine in South Africa, in recent generations. We always had food. But when you turn on the TV, you'd see black people in "other countries" (as we called it back then), looking skinny with flies all over their faces etc. Ethiopia is one such example. There was a disconnect emotionally & mentally, because if you took away our own struggle (which was Apartheid), South Africans lived almost "perfect" lives by comparison. We were almost like house pets, pampered in every other way I still remember as a child, a neighbour just had a baby. But the baby was born premature, so it spent weeks in hospital, inside an incubator. When it was time for the baby to come home, the mother of the baby took me with her to the hospital. Back then, if you just had a baby, the hospital gave you the baby's "coming-out-of-the-hospital" clothes (pink for girls & blue for boys), plus a few other necessities. So as fùcked up as the system was, it was good in other ways. The doctors & nurses were nicer. As a child, you'd never leave a hospital without a lollipop from a doctor. Those are some of the reasons why we felt so out-of-touch with the rest of Africa. We knew we were in the same continent, but by all accounts, we lived completely different lives. We might as well could have been from two completely different planets.

Ghanaians & Zimbabweans aside, Somalis were also one of the 1st immigrants in South Africa. Now they really looked different! It was almost like looking at something from outer space. TBH, we were intrigued by all these people coming in. Most of them looked a little strange & their smells (natural scents) were even stranger Somalis & Zimbabweans sold clothes. Zimbabweans gave away their homemade clothes for free, in return for 2nd hand clothes. Because we had better clothes Somalis mostly sold sneakers & jeans. Both clothes smelled funky lol. It was not unusual for people to wash the new clothes brought/got from Zimbabweans & Somalis before actually putting them on. I'd say we were snobbish or suspicious in a way.

So yeah, just wanted to tell it from the inside, looking out.

Thanks for the correction. But there are still some South Africans with that disconnect though, I always laugh when some say those African guys , even my partner used to say that when referring to foreign black people, until I called her out that she is an African girl as well lol. I know it's not an insult but it sounds weird, I was also surprised that some South African Indians aren't interested in India and Indian foreigners , some even group Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladesheshis as one. I was also surprised when a guy I used to do business with claimed they identify more with Zulus and can speak the language than they identify with Indian immigrants. When I tried to ask him why he seems to have some dislike of real Indians, he shut the whole convo down.

You almost sound like sympathiser of the old government . But from what I hear services like that were only available to some chosen communities not widespread as it today. I'm assuming you are xhosa from your moniker , are you bossy, impatient and stubborn ? .

BlackAdam55:
u are not that bright are u? That guy is not a Nigerian. I thought u could have figured it by now. SMH for you

Because I don't go around insulting people who did nothing to me . I'm not a cyber bully , I live a full filled life outside of the internet , and have no need to beef strangers . Keep on spreading hate against other nations, I'm sure it will make our country better than theirs.

JaceBlaze:
She doesn't have the mental capacity to challenge your assertions with a coherent write-up.

That one is fool of hate and nothing more .

Runalong333:



Because I don't go around insulting people who did nothing to me . I'm not a cyber bully , I live a full filled life outside of the internet , and have no need to beef strangers . Keep on spreading hate against other nations, I'm sure it will make our country better than theirs.

who cares You are not a Nigerian that's all.timewilltell2 just don't know

Runalong333:



Thanks for the correction. But there are still some South Africans with that disconnect though, I always laugh when some say those African guys , even my partner used to say that when referring to foreign black people, until I called her out that she is an African girl as well lol. I know it's not an insult but it sounds weird, I was also surprised that some South African Indians aren't interested in India and Indian foreigners , some even group Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladesheshis as one. I was also surprised when a guy I used to do business with claimed they identify more with Zulus and can speak the language than they identify with Indian immigrants. When I tried to ask him why he seems to have some dislike of real Indians, he shut the whole convo down.

You almost sound like sympathiser of the old government . But from what I hear services like that were only available to some chosen communities not widespread as it today. I'm assuming you are xhosa from your moniker , are you bossy, impatient and stubborn ? .

The 1st paragraph: Everything you said is true. It all comes down to the fact that South Africa was an insular community, making us unable to now form bonds with people who look like us, if they're not really one of us. If I'm honest, we really don't like other Africans (however we do have a fondness for Ghanaians), South African Indians dislike people from Asia & white South Africans don't care about other whites either, unless they're Afrikaaners. It'll take some time to open up & be welcoming imo.

2nd paragraph: I'm not a sympathiser, I'm a realist. IMO, every gov't or anything for that matter, has its pros & cons. The Apartheid gov't was more organised & things were done according to the book. South Africa was cleaner, less populated & low on crime. We didn't have drug addicts etc. Now we have a wider access to things & of course we're free, but freedom comes with responsibility. I personally don't think we've handled that freedom responsibly. Now we have people doing as they please, there's chaos everywhere etc. When it comes to security, the former govt beats this current one by a wide margin. Some people just need to be shot I honestly don't understand why we're being so lenient to criminals in this country. If we could have back our old police force, South Africa would be a better place imo.
Btw, the lady was black. So certain things applied to blacks too. Although we were never given money by the former govt, but what they offered was superior in quality to what is being widely distributed, today. Example are the quality of houses they built back in the day. Every new home buyer, today, wants the older houses, because they were built to last.

Yes, I'm Xhosa

BlackAdam55:
who cares You are not a Nigerian that's all.timewilltell2 just don't know

Like i said if picking up useless fights with strangers online is what qualifies one as a nigerian then I'm not one . You and your friends must continue being proud Nigerians by insulting Kenyans ,ghananians and South Africans, im sure Nigeria will be better than them once you are done lol.

Runalong333:



Like i said if picking up useless fights with strangers online is what qualifies one as a nigerian then I'm not one . You and your friends must continue being proud Nigerians by insulting Kenyans ,ghananians and South Africans, im sure Nigeria will be better than them once you are done lol.

dude u didn't get the memo do you I said that,i don't care who you are .or where you are from.

U are not a Nigerian

XhosaNostra:


The 1st paragraph: Everything you said is true. It all comes down to the fact that South Africa was an insular community, making us unable to form bonds with people who look like us, if they're not really one of us. If I'm honest, we really don't like other Africans (however we do have a fondness for Ghanaians), South African Indians dislike people from Asia & white South Africans don't care about other whites either, unless they're Afrikaaners. It'll take some time to open up & be welcoming imo.

2nd paragraph: I'm not a sympathiser, I'm a realist. IMO, every gov't or anything for that matter, has its pros & cons. The Apartheid gov't was more organised & things were done according to the book. South Africa was cleaner, less populated & low on crime. We didn't have drug addicts etc. Now we have a wider access to things & of course we're free, but freedom comes with responsibility. I personally don't think we've handled that freedom responsibly. Now we have people doing as they please, there's chaos everywhere etc. When it comes to security, the former govt beats this current one by a wide margin. Some people just need to be shot I honestly don't understand why we're being so lenient to criminals in this country. If we could have back our old police force, South Africa would be a better place imo.
Btw, the lady was black. So certain things applied to blacks too. Although we were never given money by the former govt, but what they offered was superior in quality to what is being given widely, today. Example are the quality of houses they built back in the day. Every new home buyer, today, wants the older houses, because they were built to last.

Yes, I'm Xhosa

Lol, weird stuff. I was surprised when I watched a documentary years back by an English journalist claiming white South Africans are aggressive and unweloming to foreign white people . It's strange for an outsider to understand SA, it took me a long time to learn somethings . For instance ,I thought since there was segregation in the county, I assumed when foreigners came in , blacks would identify with blacks from outside, whites with white foreigners , Asians with foreign Asians but weirdly enough , it seems South Africans would rather identify with a South African of another race than someone who looks like them from outside . By the way why are ghananians so much liked in SA, I've always been curious.


I get you , SA is very lenient . I don't know how clean it was back then, but for me SA is the cleanest African country I've ever been to , only rivaled by Kigali of Rwanda and Botswana in my opinion. It's always like that my dear ,you can't give superior service for free to everyone , I'm guessing back then there were less of those hospitals and the budget went to them. Now I'm guessing the budget is widespread to all communities which will obviously affect quality , again for someone like me who comes from a place where only those with money get the kind of assistance you guys get here for free , I can't see anything wrong with your system because I've never experienced better. Apart from the segregation laws , I seriously think you guys don't really know hardship and you complain a lot , not that you shouldn't but I wish more of you could step out of the country and visit real African countries, and you would appreciate how close to paradise SA is compared to what we get . Lol, I'm guessing it's contagious , when I visit Nigeria I find myself complaining about everything from the airport stuff to the chaos on our roads , so I snapp out of it and remind myself that I'm in Nigeria now and this is how things are lol.


To be honest I kind of find xhosa women too outspoken, they have man like ways of doing things . I enjoy the company though , but I find them too domineering and they can disrespect a person for Africa when upset . I might be stereotyping but I think you guys tend to have a higher number of people who are on the psycho side or who behave more like coloureds than other blacks . I don't know how to put it without sounding offensive but to me xhosa ,coloured and tswana seem like not so well people when they get angry lol.

BlackAdam55:
dude u didn't get the memo do you I said that,i don't care who you are .or where you are from.

U are not a Nigerian

Lol, go and hunt for a Kenyan, South African, or Ghananian or American to bully online, I'm sure your day will be full filled .

Runalong333:




Lol, weird stuff. I was surprised when I watched a documentary years back by an English journalist claiming white South Africans are aggressive and unweloming to foreign white people . It's strange for an outsider to understand SA, it took me a long time to learn somethings . For instance ,I thought since there was segregation in the county, I assumed when foreigners came in , blacks would identify with blacks from outside, whites with white foreigners , Asians with foreign Asians but weirdly enough , it seems South Africans would rather identify with a South African of another race than someone who looks like them from outside . By the way why are ghananians so much liked in SA, I've always been curious.


I get you , SA is very lenient . I don't know how clean it was back then, but for me SA is the cleanest African country I've ever been to , only rivaled by Kigali of Rwanda and Botswana in my opinion. It's always like that my dear ,you can't give superior service for free to everyone , I'm guessing back then there were less of those hospitals and the budget went to them. Now I'm guessing the budget is widespread to all communities which will obviously affect quality , again for someone like me who comes from a place where only those with money get the kind of assistance you guys get here for free , I can't see anything wrong with your system because I've never experienced better. Apart from the segregation laws , I seriously think you guys don't really know hardship and you complain a lot , not that you shouldn't but I wish more of you could step out of the country and visit real African countries, and you would appreciate how close to paradise SA is compared to what we get . Lol, I'm guessing it's contagious , when I visit Nigeria I find myself complaining about everything from the airport stuff to the chaos on our roads , so I snapp out of it and remind myself that I'm in Nigeria now and this is how things are lol.


To be honest I kind of find xhosa women too outspoken, they have man like ways of doing things . I enjoy the company though , but I find them too domineering and they can disrespect a person for Africa when upset . I might be stereotyping but I think you guys tend to have a higher number of people who are on the psycho side or who behave more like coloureds than other blacks . I don't know how to put it without sounding offensive but to me xhosa ,coloured and tswana seem like not so well people when they get angry lol.

Well, even those (White South Africans) who left for Australia, they're known for their inability/refusal to integrate with their new society. Heard they even have their own schools, where only South Africans can teach. I guess, it's the "South African way" to be selective/discriminatory towards/ dismissive of "strangers". Shrugs.

I agree with the bolded. Entitlement is the problem here.We want everything, preferably no later than yesterday. It'll be our own undoing, TBH. Because while making incessant demands, people end up destroying what they have. It doesn't make sense to me. It's those kind of people that I wish could be removed from our society. I personally dislike anarchy in all its forms.
LMFAO @ you finding yourself complaining. I think you guys need to complain more, TBH Your govt is too lax.

LMFAO @ Xhosa women exhibiting man-like traits. You're not the 1st to say that. Yes, we're very outspoken & aggressive when it needs to be. I don't know why though. However, we're also the most hospitable & accommodating imo. A Xhosa will get out of his or her way to learn your language, just to make communication easier. We're really nice people once you get past the hard facade. What tribe are you & your spouse's?
Btw, the name Xhosa was allegedly given to us by the Khoisans. It means "Angry people" Go figure! I think Zulus are angrier & more aggressive though.

XhosaNostra:


Well, even those (White South Africans) who left for Australia, they're known for their inability/refusal to integrate with their new society. Heard they even have their own schools, where only South Africans can teach. I guess, it's the "South African way" to be selective/discriminatory towards/ dismissive of "strangers". Shrugs.

I agree with the bolded. Entitlement is the problem here.We want everything, preferably no later than yesterday. It'll be our own undoing, TBH. Because while making incessant demands, people end up destroying what they have. It doesn't make sense to me. It's those kind of people that I wish could be removed from our society. I personally dislike anarchy in all its forms.
LMFAO @ you finding yourself complaining. I think you guys need to complain more, TBH Your govt is too lax.

LMFAO @ Xhosa women exhibiting man-like traits. You're not the 1st to say that. Yes, we're very outspoken & aggressive when it needs to be. I don't know why though. However, we're also the most hospitable & accommodating imo. A Xhosa will get out of his or her way to learn your language, just to make communication easier. We're really nice people once you get past the hard facade. What tribe are you & your spouse's?
Btw, the name Xhosa was allegedly given to us by the Khoisans. It means "Angry people" Go figure! I think Zulus are angrier & more aggressive though.

Lol, the audacity , even in another mans country? shocking.


I think you guys are very impatient , your government does well to a dress the issues though maybe at a slower pace than the citizens expect. In 2015 when the fees protests was so violent ,every one thought SA was done with, because that was scary how those kids went on a rampage closing down roads ,businesses and government offices. I was surprised there were no fatalities , they are lucky they did that in SA, In Nigeria their bodies would have been scattered all over the roads, you don't threaten politicians there or worse even dare push them like you do here . Yes, we should complain more, but to whom . Government in Nigeria is not like SA, where if it's reported that people in midrand are protesting because of a pothole, then the minister of roads comes and tomorrow the road is fixed lol, in naija you will be seen as a nuisance and a cry baby , and there is also the risk of being arrested of shot at by authorities.


I know xhosa people are generally welcoming . Lol, but your ladies are more on the bully side , you like having the last word or winning at all costs. Plus you like being in charge of money at home ., all the money made must come to the wife before lol. And what is this obsession with only circumcised people , it seems like you carry it on heads too much, like one would die if they sexed an uncircumcised man lol. I notice even the guys discriminate against a guy who is not circumcised. When I lived in midrand, I had a neighbour zoleka , she worked for Vodacom, very smart and hot And very independent. She and her friends used to talk all crap about how it would be a disgrace for them to bring to their fathers a dirty man(uncircumcised) they would rather stay single forever. I liked her But she was too intimidating for anything other than friendship, plus they only dated SA guys particularly xhosa guys. Those girls loved booze and could drink the whole Saturday without getting drunk and by evening argue about silly things and start yelling clicks at each like mad market women , it was hilarious to watch lol. By morning when you pick at their place , you would see them by the sliding door smoking like zombies as if nothing happened, very weird culture . By the way , how come xhosa girls smoke so much , almost everyone of them I've met even if they don't drink, they smoke . Yes Zulu guys seem very aggressive and domineering even with other men. Zulu girls seem very cultured to me and nice. My mother is igbo and father Yoruba. My spouse mother is you And her father tswana , so I'm in deep water lol.

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Lol, the audacity , even in another mans country? shocking.


I think you guys are very impatient , your government does well to a dress the issues though maybe at a slower pace than the citizens expect. In 2015 when the fees protests was so violent ,every one thought SA was done with, because that was scary how those kids went on a rampage closing down roads ,businesses and government offices. I was surprised there were no fatalities , they are lucky they did that in SA, In Nigeria their bodies would have been scattered all over the roads, you don't threaten politicians there or worse even dare push them like you do here . Yes, we should complain more, but to whom . Government in Nigeria is not like SA, where if it's reported that people in midrand are protesting because of a pothole, then the minister of roads comes and tomorrow the road is fixed lol, in naija you will be seen as a nuisance and a cry baby , and there is also the risk of being arrested of shot at by authorities.


I know xhosa people are generally welcoming . Lol, but your ladies are more on the bully side , you like having the last word or winning at all costs. Plus you like being in charge of money at home ., all the money made must come to the wife before lol. And what is this obsession with only circumcised people , it seems like you carry it on heads too much, like one would die if they sexed an uncircumcised man lol. I notice even the guys discriminate against a guy who is not circumcised. When I lived in midrand, I had a neighbour zoleka , she worked for Vodacom, very smart and hot And very independent. She and her friends used to talk all crap about how it would be a disgrace for them to bring to their fathers a dirty man(uncircumcised) they would rather stay single forever. I liked her But she was too intimidating for anything other than friendship, plus they only dated SA guys particularly xhosa guys. Those girls loved booze and could drink the whole Saturday without getting drunk and by evening argue about silly things and start yelling clicks at each like mad market women , it was hilarious to watch lol. By morning when you pick at their place , you would see them by the sliding door smoking like zombies as if nothing happened, very weird culture . By the way , how come xhosa girls smoke so much , almost everyone of them I've met even if they don't drink, they smoke . Yes Zulu guys seem very aggressive and domineering even with other men. Zulu girls seem very cultured to me and nice. My mother is igbo and father Yoruba. My spouse mother is you And her father tswana , so I'm in deep water lol.

LMFAO @ the smoking thing. Well, I had to look it up because I had no idea when it started or why. People just puffed away on their pipes. I know ALL the people in the past smoked pipes & the older generation still do to this day. Now, more or less, the pipes are used only as an accessory when people are dressed in traditional clothes, since many people don't smoke anymore for health reasons. Apparently people in the past smoked as a form of meditation & I guess the habit was passed on from one generation to the next, because we truly do smoke a lot. I don't drink though. I'm only guilty of smoking. Both of my parents also smoked It's a cultural thing. We're meditating

Interesting bloodline you have there Do you consider yourself more Igbo than Yoruba or vice versa? Can you speak both languages?

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LMFAO @ the smoking thing. Well, I had to look it up because I had no idea when it started or why. People just puffed away on their pipes. I know ALL the people in the past smoked pipes & the older generation still do to this day. Now, more or less, the pipes are used only as an accessory when people are dressed in traditional clothes, since many people don't smoke anymore for health reasons. Apparently people in the past smoked as a form of meditation & I guess the habit was passed on from one generation to the next, because we truly do smoke a lot. I don't drink though. I'm only guilty of smoking. Both of my parents also smoked It's a cultural thing. We're meditating

Interesting bloodline you have there Do you consider yourself more Igbo than Yoruba or vice versa? Can you speak both languages?

oh wow, this is A shocker . I didn't know it's a cultural thing , i thought it's more of a rebellion thing , but I found it odd that it's mostly xhosa women among black people that you see smoking everywhere . So do the older women smoke in front of their husbands ? .Do coloureds have some xhosa relation because they too can smoke for Africa, plus they love their booze too much , and while i was in cape town it was a bit difficult to distinguish who is xhosa and coloured at times because the behaviour is similar and the look, but as soon as they talk , then I know one is going to sound like an angry person with too many clicks And another will start pointing at you like she will stab you and talk so fast like she is under an epileptic attack . So all of your family might be at risk of cancer ? Lol. Did Mandela and his wife also smoke ?

I was brought up with Yoruba culture but I'm well versed in the igbo culture as well. Are you in cape town or from there ?