^^ I think you meant Nno!!

I was thorougly embarrassed after watching that Turai video. It says all you need to know about Nigeria.

I have said it before and I will repeat it:

[size=14pt]NO MORE FEDERAL CHARACTER. NO MORE QUOTA SYSTEM. NO MORE ZONING. [/size]

If you want Nigeria to remain one those things MUST GO!. Else start planning to go your own way. I don't see Ndigbo continuing in this mess.  

Onlytruth:

I was thorougly embarrassed after watching that Turai video. It says all you need to know about Nigeria.

I have said it before and I will repeat it:

[size=14pt]NO MORE FEDERAL CHARACTER. NO MORE QUOTA SYSTEM. NO MORE ZONING. [/size]

If you want Nigeria to remain one those things MUST GO!. Else start planning to go your own way. I don't see Ndigbo continuing in this mess.  

The first time I saw that clip I couldn't believe my ears
and the woman is supposedly a graduate
she's pathetic
sounded like she was singing a song

I need to see a clip of Mrs Badluck

0hsisi:

The first time I saw that clip I couldn't believe my ears
and the woman is supposedly a graduate
she's pathetic
sounded like she was singing a song

I, a Nigerian, struggled to understand what she was saying. Now, imagine how her African American guests would have struggled. I bet you most of them didn't understand what she said.
No wonder being a Nigerian is a HUGE BURDEN in the US.
Frankly, they think that we are insane.

0hsisi:

I need to see a clip of Mrs Badluck

I didn't see her's on Youtube.

She should have saved herself the trouble and spoken in her local dialect and had her aide interprete.

Okija_juju:

She should have saved herself the trouble and spoken in her local dialect and had her aide interprete.

EXACTLY! 

She could have saved us some embarrassment. The main problem was that she was not articulate. She dabbled from no point to off point. She showed her level of intelligence. How she came to be a first lady beats me. Mind you, we don't have to have a first lady. When Obasanjo's first lady wife died, other of his wives were kept away from Aso rock.
Abi na by force?!

That is Nigeria for you.

Poster,

Did you understand her? Yes you did. Therefore she communicated clearly. May be she does not have good English skills but your example did not showcase lack of communication skills.

Onlytruth:

EXACTLY! 

She could have saved us some embarrassment. The main problem was that she was not articulate. She dabbled from no point to off point. She showed her level of intelligence. How she came to be a first lady beats me. Mind you, we don't have to have a first lady. When Obasanjo's first lady wife died, other of his wives were kept away from Aso rock.
Abi na by force?!

That is Nigeria for you.

Embarrassment? That she could not speak another man's language very well? Spare me please!!!!!!!

We don't have to have a first lady. All illiterate / semi-literate women should be kept far away from Nigeria's "first lady" seat. It is not a constitutional seat.

The guests in Turai's case kept emphasizing she is "Nigeria's first lady".

agabaI23:

Embarrassment? That she could not speak another man's language very well? Spare me please!!!!!!!

Dude if you can't read please move on. I don't have time for people who can't read.

This is what I said:

The main problem was that she was not articulate. She dabbled from no point to off point. She showed her level of intelligence.

agabaI23:

Embarrassment? That she could not speak another man's language very well? Spare me please!!!!!!!

that's nonsense. English is our national language. Its just like saying a French man cant speak french.

Besides like onlytruth said, the problem wasnt in the inability to speak, it was in the inability to articulate a point effectively. Some Russians cant speak english well but at least you have an idea what message they are trying to convey. this is a woman who thinks she's talking to 2 yr olds.

Onlytruth:

Dude if you can't read please move on. I don't have time for people who can't read.

This is what I said:

O chairman sorry I can read and comprehend as well.

Look at the post I quoted.

' Exactly' and 'She should have saved some embarrassment' were your response to another person's post who suggested she should have used her native dialect.
I responded to that based on your inspiration.

Your later line of thought is dislocated  from the former. Please spare me. Anu mpam!

@David,

so you do not have problem with the Russian or Chinese when they murder English? You Understand them because you choose to excuse them. But for a Nigerian like in any other thing, we set high standards for ourselves.

Let the Journalist interview her in her native dialect.

We are not native speakers even if English is our national language otherwise you would have no need writing TOEFL or IELTS exams for various international purposes.

agabaI23:

O chairman sorry I can read and comprehend as well.

Look at the post I quoted.

' Exactly' and 'She should have saved some embarrassment' were your response to another person's post who suggested she should have used her native dialect.
I responded to that based on your inspiration.

Your latter line of thought is dislocated  from the former. Please spare me. Anu mpam!

@David,

so you do not have problem with the Russian or Chinese when they murder English? You Understand them because you choose to excuse them. But for a Nigerian like in any other thing, we set high standards for ourselves.

Let the Journalist interview her in her native dialect.

We are not native speakers even if English is our national language otherwise you would have no need writing TOEFL or IELTS exams for various international purposes.

Who is the cowardly goat here?

You wait for me to log out before sneaking back to poo. Goat.

Like I said before, if you cannot read, please move on. 

BTW here's my original quote:

Onlytruth:

EXACTLY! 

She could have saved [size=14pt]us[/size] some embarrassment. [b]The main problem was that she was not articulate. [/b]She dabbled from no point to off point. She showed her level of intelligence. How she came to be a first lady beats me. Mind you, we don't have to have a first lady. When Obasanjo's first lady wife died, other of his wives were kept away from Aso rock.
Abi na by force?!

That is Nigeria for you.

And I stand by it 100% 

agaba you really have no argument here . . . i get tired of arguing just to sound correct.

I'm sorry but i fail to relate what you are saying to what either myself or only truth are talking about. you seem to be talking to yourself. We are not saying that Russians dont speak worse English . . . the difference is that at least some of them can articulate what they have to say. Articulation has NOTHING to do with your fluency in a language, it is a matter of your own mental acuity.

Articulation has nothing to do with language. That is what interpreters are for.

[size=14pt]Speak Hausa please![/size] Let interpreters do their job.; and while you are at it, please talk sense, not gibberish.

davidylan:

agaba you really have no argument here . . . i get tired of arguing just to sound correct.

I'm sorry but i fail to relate what you are saying to what either myself or only truth are talking about. you seem to be talking to yourself. We are not saying that Russians dont speak worse English . . . the difference is that at least some of them can articulate what they have to say. Articulation has NOTHING to do with your fluency in a language, it is a matter of your own mental acuity.

Thanks a million please!

Onlytruth:

Who is the cowardly goat here?

You wait for me to log out before sneaking back to poo. Goat.

Like I said before, if you cannot read, please move on. 

BTW here's my original quote:

And I stand by it 100% 

Sorry bro, I was doing something else. I didn't know I had to reply you immediately.

Well I just pointed out the structure of your post to you and told you why responded the way I did.

@david
Thanks a billion, at least I can hear myself if you do not hear me

Remember you are slaying the woman first because of her NiEnglish. And the righteous Onlytruth said she embarrassed him because of a point raised by another poster.

What I am saying is that she may not be articulate because she is not fluent in English. She is not English and as such should be pardoned. If the Journalist wants to see her articulate, let him interview her in her native language.

BTW I am sorry that you failed to comprehend my earlier argument. I hope you get it this time

agabaI23:

Sorry bro, I was doing something else. I didn't know I had to reply you immediately.

Well I just pointed out the structure of your post to you and told you why responded the way I did.

@david
Thanks a billion, at least I can hear myself if you do not hear me

Remember you are slaying the woman first because of her NiEnglish. And the righteous Onlytruth said she embarrassed him because of a point raised by another poster.

What I am saying is that she may not be articulate because she is not fluent in English. She is not English and as such should be pardoned. If the Journalist wants to see her articulate, let him interview her in her native language.

BTW I am sorry that you failed to comprehend my earlier argument. I hope you get it this time

you're making it up now as you go. I never insinuated such. I dont speak yoruba that excellently but i can still articulate a point without sounding like a retarded child. There are FAR MANY heads of states who dont speak English so well . . . they dont speak like they are addressing a gathering of 3 yr old orphans either.

Even if she were speaking hausa, its doubtful she could do much better. Not knowing what to say, not being smart enough to convey an intelligent opinion cannot simply be blamed on lack of fluency in a language.

David,

I am not making anything up. See my first post on this thread and then check the second.

I did not watch the said interview and so I cannot comment on her communication skills. I was up in arms when the Original poster was referring to lack of English skills as lack of communication skills.


Someone can be thrown off balance if the language of communication is not solid in his mouth. I have seen scholars struggle to make their points in a field they are experts in just because of language barrier.
Spare the dame please

davidylan:

you're making it up now as you go. I never insinuated such. I dont speak yoruba that excellently but i can still articulate a point without sounding like a retarded child. There are FAR MANY heads of states who dont speak English so well . . . they dont speak like they are addressing a gathering of 3 yr old orphans either.

Even if she were speaking hausa, its doubtful she could do much better. Not knowing what to say, not being smart enough to convey an intelligent opinion cannot simply be blamed on lack of fluency in a language.

Like I said already David, thanks a million.

Some people just can't admit fault. Now, imagine such people in power!  

agabaI23:

David,

I am not making anything up. See my first post on this thread and then check the second.

I did not watch the said interview and so I cannot comment on her communication skills. I was up in arms when the Original poster was referring to lack of English skills as lack of communication skills.


Someone can be thrown off balance if the language of communication is not solid in his mouth. I have seen scholars struggle to make their points in a field they are experts in just because of language barrier.
Spare the dame please

then what is the point of you commenting on it?

agabaI23:

Embarrassment? That she could not speak another man's language very well? Spare me please!!!!!!!

Continue making excuses! What is another man's language? English is the only language of education and official business in Nigeria from the day she was born till now.

I am not as diplomatic as Davidylan or Onlytruth as we have to be blunt sometime to drive home the truth. The Russians can be excused for speaking poor English if you like, just as we can for the Russian lingo, because Russians are not taught English language from school. While you and I was taught English even from kindergarten. Have you heard Okonjo Iweala or Dora Akunyili speaks? That is how an educated person, who is the image of your country in a world forum, should sound, fluency and articulate.

This Shehu Shagari all over again, when he speaks, you cover your head with blanket of embarrassment, as he pronounces government as gobrumant.


And she is a public figure, that was expected to speak in public, an aclaimed university graduate bt speaks so poorly in your behalf and you wanted to be spared?

Eziachi:

Continue making excuses! What is another man's language? English is the only language of education and official business in Nigeria from the day she was born till now.

And she is a public figure, that was expected to speak in public, an aclaimed university graduate bt speaks so poorly in your behalf and you wanted to be spared?

I wonder. I'm sure Hausa was not the language of communication in her university.

Eziachi:

Continue making excuses! What is another man's language? English is the only language of education and official business in Nigeria from the day she was born till now.

And she is a public figure, that was expected to speak in public, an aclaimed university graduate bt speaks so poorly in your behalf and you wanted to be spared?

She did not blunder in Ijaw language. Let her be.

davidylan:

then what is the point of you commenting on it?

I commented on the issue surrounding the interview not on the interview my friend!

agabaI23:

She did not blunder in Ijaw language. Let her be.I commented on the issue surrounding the interview not on the interview my friend!

Are we still talking about Turai's speech in Harlem?

And by the way, which English are we talking about here? Is it the one a Nigerian will speak and an average foreigner will ask him to repeat himself? Keep deceiving yourselves that you speak English as national language.

Why do you have to sit for TOEFl and IELTS if English is your national language and you are native speakers?

agabaI23:

And by the way, which English are we talking about here? Is it the one a Nigerian will speak and an average foreigner will ask him to repeat himself? Keep deceiving yourselves that you speak English as national language.

Why do you have to sit for TOEFl and IELTS if English is your national language and you are native speakers?

Ol boy na wa for you o 

So a simple "oh I misunderstood" would kill you? 

Is it that hard to admit a simple mistake? 

agabaI23:

I commented on the issue surrounding the interview not on the interview my friend!

that's partly the problem with the politics section . . . too many people commenting on an issue they are not conversant with yet insisting on digging themselves into a hole.

What do you mean by "commenting on the issue surrounding the interview"?   Do you mean you are blindly responding to the opinion of those who ACTUALLY did see the video?

agabaI23:

Why do you have to sit for TOEFl and IELTS if English is your national language and you are native speakers?

1. The core of the TOEFL exam are the SPOKEN and WRITTEN portions.

2. You are given the test to determine your ability to UNDERSTAND the American intonation and the subtle differences in their uses of the language.

3. The test is NOT to determine whether you can speak English IN Nigeria or anywhere else.

davidylan:

that's partly the problem with the politics section . . . too many people commenting on an issue they are not conversant with yet insisting on digging themselves into a hole.

What do you mean by "commenting on the issue surrounding the interview"?   Do you mean you are blindly responding to the opinion of those who ACTUALLY did see the video?

Frankly I've never seen anything like this before.

Na real wa for the guy.