APCNig:
This poster has Corona Virus, psychiatric disorders, mental imbalance and hallucinations. My mother is from Kwars, I go to Ilorin, Omu-Aran, Offa, Erin-Ire, Irepodun and Ifelodun at least once in a quarter. The poster should be in Isolation Centre because Corona has affected his brain. You won't even see a Church or a Christian in inner Ilorin as you have Churches in building after building in Lagos, that's how you have Mosques in house after house in Ilorin.

Takara:
Op your post is full of sentiments. Leave sentiment oets use facts

1. Sixteen out ofNinenetee Northern States have Muslim Governors this seems to I play that sixteen out of the Nineteen States are muslim majority states

2. Only three states ( Plateau, Benue, and Taraba )appears to have a Christian majority.

3.. most of the other states are so predominantly muslim that both Governors and Deputy Governors are muslims with the exception of two or three that have christian Deputy Governors (GOMBE and Kogi states)

3. Kaduna is clearly Muslim majority, of the three Senatorial Districts o ly one is christian majority with a significant muslim minority including the present deputy Governor.. The Christian's in Kaduna state are numerically comparable to the muslims in Edo State. Oth Re majority in one out of three Senatorial Districts .just that the Christian's in kaduna state are more vocal

4. Kogi is also Muslim majority the two largest ethnic groups igala and ebira are predominantly muslim.

5. Indigenous Northern Christians are probably laround 20% of the population ( I mean with three majority states out of sixteen)

Nowenuse:


However I think Southern minorities are just too scared. What stops them from making negotiations with Igbos to arrange for a country of loosed Confederacy (something like the UK) where everyone controls his own republic within the country and has every right to pull out whenever they like?

DO THEY PREFER the status quo in Nigeria where their oil wealth is being MONOPOLIZED by Hausa fulanis & Yorubas to an extent?

Nowenuse:


What Efewestern is saying is very clear and understandable. Igbos & SS minorities put together in one country will be like 65% Igbo.

But if SS minorities are one country, no single ethnic group will be up to 35% of the country, not even if all Ijaw clans combine or all the Ibibio-Efik-Anang people combine. It will be a sort of balance.

But to be sincere, 2 major ethnic groups may end up forming a sort of coalition in order to dominate the rest. Just like what exists in Kenya today.
Just that it will not be as bad a 1 ethnic group dominating the country.

However I think Southern minorities are just too scared. What stops them from making negotiations with Igbos to arrange for a country of loosed Confederacy (something like the UK) where everyone controls his own republic within the country and has every right to pull out whenever they like? Do they prefer the status quo in Nigeria where their oil wealth is being monopolized by Hausa fulanis & Yorubas to an extent?
Southern minorities have an extreme case of 'Minority paranoia syndrome'.

Takara:


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Sixteen out of Nineteen Northern States have Muslim Governors this seems to I play that sixteen out of the Nineteen States are muslim majority states

helinues:
That must be from Ipob Bureau of Statistics ( IBS)

ZKOSOSO:

You seemed to be an outsider to the politics of the north even though you're one of them.
That you have 16 Muslims as govnor don't translate to the real population dichotomy of religion in the north.
Christians are known to care far less who governs them provided the fellow can perform. If we Christians are to dubiously force our way as the HausaFulanis are doing over the ages, it would be difficult for Kaduna, Nasarawa, Kogi, Adamawa, Gombe to have a Muslim governor in all its constituencies. Muslims are minority in the states above in reality.
As for Edo state, you don't know anything cos you're not an Edo indigene let alone know the religious diff in South. The population of Muslims in Edo North is less than 20% while 1% or less in the other 2 Senatorial districts. So how do you produce a Deputy gov let alone Gov in any part of the SS??

Subduer:

Sir, that Borno south is FULLY represented by moslems doesn't mean that moslems form the majority of that population. If you live in Nigeria you will understand why Book Haram has fighting a FUTILE war to islamise that region.

ZKOSOSO:

You seemed to be an outsider to the politics of the north even though you're one of them.
That you have 16 Muslims as govnor don't translate to the real population dichotomy of religion in the north.
Christians are known to care far less who governs them provided the fellow can perform. If we Christians are to dubiously force our way as the HausaFulanis are doing over the ages, it would be difficult for Kaduna, Nasarawa, Kogi, Adamawa, Gombe to have a Muslim governor in all its constituencies. Muslims are minority in the states above in reality.
As for Edo state, you don't know anything cos you're not an Edo indigene let alone know the religious diff in South. The population of Muslims in Edo North is less than 20% while 1% or less in the other 2 Senatorial districts. So how do you produce a Deputy gov let alone Gov in any part of the SS??

Nowenuse:


Bro, Muslims are not even up to 10% in Edo state right now. They are like 8%. I know Edo state like the back of my palm. Although in the past (30 yrs ago), muslims were up to 15% in Edo state.

The only LGA in Edo state which can still be majority muslims is Etsako west (where you have Auchi, South Ibie, Aviele-Agbede & Jattu), but even in Etsako west right now, Christians are very many. In the past Etsako west used to be 100% Muslim. My brother's wife is from South Ibie, she and all her siblings were born as muslims, but today all of them are now Christians (over 20 children), her mother is now a Christian too.
Oshiomole is from Jattu, his parents were muslims, but he is now a christian and Jattu which is the biggest clan in Etsako west is now Christian majority.
Apostle Johnson Suleiman is also from Etsako west, with a Muslim father, he is now a Christian.

The influence of Christianity in the south was too strong for Etsako people. Etsako people are now Christian majority (like 75%). In the past, they were something like 65% muslim.

Etsako east is now almost entirely Christian (90% Christian), but it used to be like 40% Muslim in the past. Etsako central is now something like 30% Muslim, but it used to be like 70% muslim.

Owan & Akoko-Edo used to be like 20% muslims in the past, but today they are only like 5% Muslim or less.

Muslims are now a minority in Etsako land and Etsako land is 50% of Edo north and Edo north is ⅓ of Edo state. Do the mathematics for yourself and tell me if muslims can be up to 10% in Edo state.

Efewestern:


Such fear is very much justifiable, judging from the fact that these same minorities in the past, had shared same region with either of these major ethnic groups, their experience... HMmMMMM.

Everyone should run their race jor.

Nowenuse:


Bro, Muslims are not even up to 10% in Edo state right now. They are like 8%. I know Edo state like the back of my palm. Although in the past (30 yrs ago), muslims were up to 15% in Edo state.

The only LGA in Edo state which can still be majority muslims is Etsako west (where you have Auchi, South Ibie, Aviele-Agbede & Jattu), but even in Etsako west right now, Christians are very many. In the past Etsako west used to be 100% Muslim. My brother's wife is from South Ibie, she and all her siblings were born as muslims, but today all of them are now Christians (over 20 children), her mother is now a Christian too.
Oshiomole is from Jattu, his parents were muslims, but he is now a christian and Jattu which is the biggest clan in Etsako west is now Christian majority.
Apostle Johnson Suleiman is also from Etsako west, with a Muslim father, he is now a Christian.

The influence of Christianity in the south was too strong for Etsako people. Etsako people are now Christian majority (like 75%). In the past, they were something like 65% muslim.

Etsako east is now almost entirely Christian (90% Christian), but it used to be like 40% Muslim in the past. Etsako central is now something like 30% Muslim, but it used to be like 70% muslim.

Owan & Akoko-Edo used to be like 20% muslims in the past, but today they are only like 5% Muslim or less.

Muslims are now a minority in Etsako land and Etsako land is 50% of Edo north and Edo north is ⅓ of Edo state. Do the mathematics for yourself and tell me if muslims can be up to 10% in Edo state.

Nowenuse:


Muslims are a clear minority in Adamawa, Nasarawa & Kogi.
Kaduna to me seems more like a 50-50, while Gombe is like 60% Muslim.
Christians cannot be more than muslims in Gombe.
There is no way a state will be 50-50 or predominantly Christian and it's state capital will be overwhelmingly muslim.

senatordave1:

Oga kaduna is 55% Muslims.even southern kaduna people sokapu accept this fact.kogi is 55%.Muslims.gombe is over 70% Muslims...

senatordave1:
The op is a religious supremacist

Nowenuse:


My problem with you is that you do not even know the demography of the places you are giving religious percentages.
I have interacted with thousands of people from all over almost every LGA of the north. I have also travelled to these places. I have met with their leaders. I belong to their social media groups (of over a hundred tribes). I know these places far more than you do, so, when I give u statistics, try to take them cos I can give u LG to LG and tribe to tribe analysis of these places.

Kaduna state would have been like 55 or even 60% muslims if there was no significant number of Christians in Northern Kaduna.

I myself used to accept 55% muslims in Kaduna, not until I came across Hausa Christians from Northern Kaduna and they explained their area for me. Do you know the population of Hausa Christians in Ikara LGA? They are up to 35% of that LGA! They are in the interior rural areas and most of them wear kaftan & hijab like muslims and speak strong Hausa cos they are native Hausa speakers.
You can hardly differentiate them from Muslims. Hausa indigene Christians are all over Soba, Giwa, Makarfi, Kudan, Igabi and Zaria LGAs. Hausa land in Northern Kaduna is at least 20% indigenous Christians, but Hausa Christians are a very very timid people and that is why they seem very invisible and people wrongly think that Northern Kaduna is entirely muslim.

There are more indigenous Christians in Northern Kaduna than there are indigenous Muslims in Southern Kaduna. Most muslims in SK are Hausa fulani settlers.


Also, Birnin Gwari, Kubau & Igabi are considered pure Hausa LGAs, but ⅓ of these 3 LGAs belong to Gbagyis, Kamuku & Kurama christians.

The thing is that Christians tend to be very quiet, timid and respectful in a place that they are a minority, but muslims will still make noise and cause trouble in a place that they are a minority (making it look like they are significant in that place).

Do you know the population of Hausa Christians in Kano & Katsina? They are up to 20% of the indigenous population of both states, but you never hear anything from them.



Only a very big joker will say Gombe is up to 70% muslim. Are u aware that Gombe south is 90% Christian? Then 2 of the 3 LGAs in Gombe central (Akko & Yamaltu) are up to 35% Christian?



I am proud of it! After all, I wasn't the one who started it in Nigeria, was I?

senatordave1:

there are more Muslims in southern kaduna than in northern kaduna

Nowenuse:


It's not just about selling your lands.
It's more or less about abandoning your culture and ancestral religion.

Some of our tribes carry Christianity for head like gala and abandoned all the spiritual charms for protection, initiation, war e.t.c, you will not believe that it is almost impossible to find a shrine or traditionalist in Berom land.
But you see tribes like Taroks, Eggons, Jukuns? If they are in the church and their masquerades are passing by, the church will become empty all of a sudden. Their own Christianity is on their legs and they easily shake it off any time they want

ZKOSOSO:


Think you just like troubling the OP as a 'troublem' guy..!
Spent all primary secondary and ABU schools days in Kaduna. Where do you have Muslims in SK...? Where..?
Kachia..?.....Muslims are all HausaFulanis settlers dropped there by Ahmadu Bello era of the 1940s/early 1950s. Fact.
As a little boy then, I knew all the first generation settlers of HausaFulanis extraction...mainly in 'cikin gari' (main town)
Today, they formed the only Muslims population with a voice but still minority in Kachia LGA. Zango kataf...? It's already a flogged issue of how settling Fulani got a favour from Katab to have a cattle market in the 1960s.... Kafanchan...? That they have an Emir forced on them doesn't translate to the real people of the land. Total stranger sitting on a throne by force. Kasuwan Magani is a 'Kadara' land as Kachia
Outside these places everywhere in SK only have few families and HausaFulanis settlers who practice Islam here and there...! In all HausaFulanis and Muslims are less than 15% of total population of SK for real...!

Nowenuse:


Prove it brother, prove it !

Many people foolishly judge based on politics. Politics that is highly dependent on many things.

Igala muslims had better political power over Igala Christians cos it started from old Benue state when a Tiv who is automatically a christian becomes the governor and for the sake of inclusiveness, an Igala muslim is given the deputy governor.
Igala muslims were never more than the Christians in numbers, it was done just for the sake of inclusiveness. This was exactly the same thing that happened with Nasarawa people in old Plateau state.
Hence, when Nasarawa & Kogi states were created, the muslims already had much political clout over the Christians because of the nature of politics in old Benue & old Plateau state.

The Muslim domination of Kogi & Nasarawa was caused by Benue & Plateau people. Just that we never knew things would turn out like this.
We politically empowered Igala muslims & Nasarawa Muslims in the old states for the sake of inclusiveness, not because they were the majority in those places.
In the 1999 PDP primaries of Nasarawa state, did Solomon Lar not support Abdullahi Adamu (who was his deputy governor in old Plateau state) over Solomon Ewuga?


In the case of Kaduna state, Christians only started having any political say when Katsina state left Kaduna state.
When Katsina was still part of Kaduna state, the state was like 75% Muslim and Katsina people with their numbers controlled the state and always gave Zaria people the deputy positions, leaving Southern Kaduna people to eat the crumbs from the masters table.
When Katsina was leaving, they handed over power to Zaria! The state was rearranged and structured to give Zaria people continued political advantage!
In spite of all this, a Christian emerged as the 1st elected chairman of Kaduna LGA. Can u tell me why it was possible?
Can you tell me why Sabo (the biggest Christian suburb of Kaduna) was taken away from old Kaduna LGA into Chikun LGA? Why was Saminaka taken to Kaduna north? Were they ever together with Zaria people in one senatorial district in the old Kaduna state?

People who know Kaduna state are explaining it for you and you are believing lies.

Imagine you saying Kogi state has more muslims, is it because you pass through Ebira land (Kogi central) on your way to Abuja? Then you conclude that muslims are more?

Naajjii:

You are a liar, keep decieving yourself with self imagination. What is true is what we have on ground which is christians are minorities in the north and that reflected in the number of states christians are governing(3) against 16 for muslims. Religion plays key role on who emerges as a governor in all the northern states. Taraba, Benue and Plateau are the 3 states dominated by christians in the north hence the 3 governors they got. Nassarawa state is another state that a christian can become governor if they put their act together the remaining 15 states in the north will always have muslim Governors. Its not possible for a muslim to become governor of plateau or Benue state or even Taraba no matter how political savy smart they are due to the fact that they are minorities much the same way christians can not be a governor in the other 15 states in the north because they are minorities.
I dont like doing this religion thing but i have to counter you because i realised that you are a religion and tribal Instigator.

Nowenuse:


Northern Christians have not been playing politics based on religion. It is northern muslims that have always been playing politics based on religion and that is why it is impossible to find a place that is muslim majority in the north and they elect a Christian as their political leader.
However, times without number, Muslims are elected in places that are overwhelmingly Christian.

E.g Ibrahim Nasiru Mantu (former deputy Senate president)was elected senator for 8 years in Plateau central senatorial district.

Are you aware that Plateau central is 80% Christian?

The first senator of Taraba south (in 1999) was also a muslim, is Taraba south a muslim majority zone?

The former senator of Adamawa south was was a muslim. Is Adamawa south Muslim majority?

In the just concluded elections in Gombe south. The Christian APC candidate won the muslim PDP candidate with a very tiny margin.
The last 2 house of reps representing Gombe south were muslims.

Now tell me, is Gombe south a muslim majority zone?


Christians have always been voting for muslims even in Places were muslims are a small minority, but muslims will never vote for Christians unless they are a minority in such places.

So, I repeat, only a big foool will judge Northern Nigeria's population based on the religions of their political leaders. That would only have been possible if the Christians had been playing religious politics from the beginning. However facts have shown that this is not the case.

ZKOSOSO:

If we Christians are to dubiously force our way as the FULANIS are doing over the years, it would be difficult for Kaduna, Nasarawa, Kogi, Adamawa, Gombe to have a Muslim governor in all its constituencies.

Nowenuse:

A Christian emerged as the 1st elected chairman of Kaduna LGA. Can u tell me why it was possible? Can you tell me why Sabo (the biggest Christian suburb of Kaduna) was taken away from old Kaduna LGA into Chikun LGA?

Why was Saminaka taken to Kaduna north? Were they ever together with Zaria people in one senatorial district in the old Kaduna state?

Nowenuse:
MUSLIMS are a CLEAR MINORITY in Adamawa, Nasarawa & Kogi.

Nowenuse:

I came across Hausa Christians from Northern Kaduna and they explained their area for me. Do you know the population of Hausa Christians in Ikara LGA? They are up to 35% of that LGA! They are in the interior rural areas and most of them wear kaftan & hijab like muslims and speak strong Hausa cos they are native Hausa speakers.

Hausa indigene Christians are all over Soba, Giwa, Makarfi, Kudan, Igabi and Zaria LGAs. Hausa land in Northern Kaduna is at least 20% indigenous Christians

Do you know the population of Hausa Christians in Kano & Katsina? They are up to 20% of the indigenous population of both states, but you never hear anything from them.

Subduer:


Please kindly post a map of Kaduna State showing the Local Govt Areas, & Senatorial Zones

Nowenuse:


This is the map of Kaduna below. Can u see Chikun, Kajuru, Kauru & Lere LGAs at the same horizontal level? But Chikun & Kajuru are in Kaduna central, Kauru is in Kaduna south while Lere is in Kaduna north.
How can Lere & Kauru who are side by side in the same horizontal level, yet one is in Kaduna north and the other is in Kaduna south?

Then can you see Giwa & Birnin Gwari LGAs that share boundary with Katsina & Zamfara states? They are both in Kaduna central. If this is not a fraud to weaken the Christians in Kaduna state, tell me what it is!

Nowenuse:


This is the map of Kaduna below. Can u see Chikun, Kajuru, Kauru & Lere LGAs at the same horizontal level? But Chikun & Kajuru are in Kaduna central, Kauru is in Kaduna south while Lere is in Kaduna north.
How can Lere & Kauru who are side by side in the same horizontal level, yet one is in Kaduna north and the other is in Kaduna south?

Then can you see Giwa & Birnin Gwari LGAs that share boundary with Katsina & Zamfara states? They are both in Kaduna central. If this is not a fraud to weaken the Christians in Kaduna state, tell me what it is!

Efewestern:


Such fear is very much justifiable, judging from the fact that these same minorities in the past, had shared same region with either of these major ethnic groups, their experience... HMmMMMM.

Everyone should run their race jor.