UpBendel:

Nna guy, what role pays you 2 million naira a month in naija o? Curious to know.

UpBendel:

Nna guy, what role pays you 2 million naira a month in naija o? Curious to know.

UpBendel:

Beg to differ.  Comfort, freedom, and safety are all relative and a factor of where you are - might I add that there are parts of the States where such luxuries simply do not exist.  I used to be of the same disposition as you with regards to moving to Nigeria but nothing quite compares to the sense of belonging when you head back.  If you want to be average, stay where you are.  Period

hackney:

I expect that all those network engrs in say, Glo and MTN would  earn  at least N2m a month.
Just a thought.
(though its hard to define a true engr in naija ; oga's nephew from village working there will als be engr, i guess)

Kobojunkie:

You might want to read the post again, this time carefully. The point is we do not see things the same. That there are parts of the United states YOU do not consider to have the luxuries that satisfy you does not imply that those who currently reside in those areas are not at home and content with what they have available to them.

I think the first thing you ought to consider dropping is this notion that it is measured in exactly the way you perceive it. Cause I can tell that you have NEVER EVER been of the same disposition as I am right now and probably never will until you QUIT believing we all see the world the way you do.

For one, there are Nigerians living outside of Nigeria who BELONG WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW and do not share your need to head back or whatever it feels like. They are not in the minority and they are not mad people -- they are Nigerians like you who have made actually moved on.

Also, I believe a lot of people have addressed the second mindset which is this notion that everyone else who does not see things as you do or live terrible as you do is also SUFFERING? SOrry, it is not true. There are so many Nigerians out there, myself included, living not as second class citizens(since most of that is also a mindset problem) and have no regrets.

So, as soon as you deal with the base problems identified, do come back with a post that reviews people as they are, not as your warped mind deems they ought to be.

UpBendel:

A few years ago I would say maybe assuming a daily rate of say $620 or £400.  Not in Naija though.  

lagbaja20:

^^^

Copy and paste

Hows that difficult

UpBendel:

I think you have taken a simple remark, turned it upside down and attempted to posit something intelligent.  I did read your post very carefully - all 20 seconds of it - and started by saying that 'I beg to differ'.  That is called dissension.  You have your views and I have mine.  State it calmly.

UpBendel:

Beg to differ.  Comfort, freedom, and safety are all relative and a factor of where you are - might I add that there are parts of the States where such luxuries simply do not exist.  I used to be of the same disposition as you with regards to moving to Nigeria but nothing quite compares to the sense of belonging when you head back.  If you want to be average, stay where you are.  Period

Kobojunkie:

You are seriously joking with this, aren't you?

First,

First, You felt you needed to point out that there are parts of the States where luxuries simply do not exist, and I corrected you by helping you understand that one's man's LUXURY is not necessarily another man's LUXURY. Because you cannot live in a place like Montgomery Alabama, or out in the mountains of west Virginia, or in dover, DE, or even in cold cold Alaska, DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT mean those who currently live there are SUFFERING AND WITHOUT  the luxuries they want and need.

Then you attempted to claim you used to be of the same disposition as I am with regards to moving to Nigeria, only you fail to note that I am not you and so that you are able to flip on your decisions in this area DOES NOT mean we all do or will do same as you. We did not share similar childhoods, and likely do not even share similar experiences even as adults so the chances of us seeing things the same is close to nill.

Lastly you made the arrogant mistake of assuming I am in the same both as you seem to be . .  believing nothing compares to Nigeria and all that blah. Again, I am not you and I don't think as you do. Then you had the audacity to claim that staying here means my life will be as average as yours, and that my friend, reveals even more of your thinking process.

So, no you made no simple remark, you insulted yourself there and I ask that you go back, shed that silly mindset and then, maybe then, you will see people as they are, and not as you need them to be for you.

That there are parts of the United states YOU do not consider to have the luxuries that satisfy you does not imply that those who currently reside in those areas are not at home and content with what they have available to them.

lonewolf:

A good chunk of the responses are idiotic, while the remainder is rooted in bad belle.

Look, poster, Nigeria is peculiar. There are pros and cons. And relocating to Naij will only be sensible, depending on what you want for yourself. To start with, understand that Naij is not a bed of roses. So, you're not going to get a handout because you've come from England. That said, insofar as you bring foreign degrees and formidable professional experience, you are in good stead. The reality is that a degree from the University of Birmingham is better that a degree from the University of Ibadan, and employers understand that.

It's all about what you want for yourself. If you are motivated by the chance of making untold wealth, Nigeria is where you should ultimately go. If you prefer predicability and sanity, stay in England. If you're going to be bothered about lack of electricty, etc., you should stay in England. If you as educated as you make it appear, you can live a respectable middle class life in England -- if this is what you want. So, it's all about choices really.


As an aside, to all those Nigerians in Naij who have this perception that people in diaspora are "suffering", you guys seriously need to check your bad belle. Are there people hustling, etc., in England, Canada and America? Yes. Where this is the case, this is testament to their dexeterity. It's not a bad thing. What kind of wreteched mentality holds that hard work is not respectable?

OJ2010:

Yinka 85 we are actually thinking alike! good post

poweredcom:

Well As u come ready to stay without light and go get your own generator oo cos heat go nearly kill you, and fraustrate you, My bro u wan come from frying pan to Fire,

Kobojunkie:

You are seriously joking with this, aren't you?

First,

First, You felt you needed to point out that there are parts of the States where luxuries simply do not exist, and I corrected you by helping you understand that one's man's LUXURY is not necessarily another man's LUXURY. Because you cannot live in a place like Montgomery Alabama, or out in the mountains of west Virginia, or in dover, DE, or even in cold cold Alaska, DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT mean those who currently live there are SUFFERING AND WITHOUT  the luxuries they want and need.

Then you attempted to claim you used to be of the same disposition as I am with regards to moving to Nigeria, only you fail to note that I am not you and so that you are able to flip on your decisions in this area DOES NOT mean we all do or will do same as you. We did not share similar childhoods, and likely do not even share similar experiences even as adults so the chances of us seeing things the same is close to nill.

Lastly you made the arrogant mistake of assuming I am in the same both as you seem to be . .  believing nothing compares to Nigeria and all that blah. Again, I am not you and I don't think as you do. Then you had the audacity to claim that staying here means my life will be as average as yours, and that my friend, reveals even more of your thinking process.

So, no you made no simple remark, you insulted yourself there and I ask that you go back, shed that silly mindset and then, maybe then, you will see people as they are, and not as you need them to be for you.

kay-money:

@ OP There is noting bad in one returning home because there is no place like home** He only needs to plan well and that is where common sense comes to play** Like myself for example I am planning my  return to 9ja soon* but before I return I must put 4 things in place compulsorily~

1) My own property may be  3/4 bedroom Duplex
2) Good busineess plan must be on ground
3) Nice ride to use in 9ja.
4) Enough Cash in Bank

I[b]nstead of me taking  a mortgage of £300,000. which I would pay for 25-30 years I prefer to use that lump sum of money for my own personal house in 9ja, [/b] Because it makes no sense to have lived  7-10 years abroad and you  are not better off than people you left in 9ja** Not forgetting the rate at which guys are changing levels in 9ja, So poster plan well**

denzel2009:

Actually, you are not going to see the £300k lump at all.

You pay 20% of that amount and the building society complete the rest for you** And you put your self in bondage as you continue to pay may be £1000-£1200 on the house monthly of which you must not default unless you want the property repossessed

beknown:

Get a job first before you go to Nigeria. Check the following website:
http://www.careersinafrica.com/summits/london
Better still, visit Nigeria alone (without your family) and take a look at Abuja, Lagos and Port Harcourt. Investigate job opportunities as well as business start-up opportunities.
It is easier to start a small business in Nigeria because no regulation to satisfy. Just start.

frosbel:
Nigerians are cowards, Oyinbo people, Indians and  Arabs are coming in their droves to Nigeria.These same people are adjusting to Naija life with spouses and children.Surprisingly indigenous Nigerians based abroad are slagging off their own country ( country of birth and upbringing ) and too scared to come back.Now you see why whites make it big time, they take risk. The typical Nigerian man hates risk , but wants to make a quick buck.[img]http://www.oyibosonline.com/sm2/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=21027;type=avatar[/img]