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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 6:36pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
I have a colleague at work naija guy who married an American. When they got married the woman was working. When she wanted to have her first baby she said she would drop out of work to take care of her baby as she doesnt want any nanny to care for her baby, the guy obliged. 10yrs later they have 2 kids a 9yr and a 7yr old both now in sch. The woman has refused to get a job after that Cos of the convenience. All she does is to sit at home and flip channels while the kids she used as excuse are all in school. Its so bad that in that 10yrs she didnt even get any degree or certificate just sit at home. I wonder how some women would have such sense of entitlement? The man dare not get a divorce because of the potential alimony and Child support he would be slammed with. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 7:05pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
Why isnt the woman using that same stability, encouragement and support to help herself when she was single or employ the same tact when she was married. Many guys are already on their way up the ladder before they got married without any woman to "support" I'm sure Zuckerbergs wife in the next few years too would tell stories of how she supported and helped him retain his money. Its a known fact that marriage slows down a lot of men, You can no longer take financial risk because the barbie at home must eat. If the tell 2 men to go to Malaysia for a business opportunity, the single hops on the plane but the married one wont be able to go. Many employers nowadays actually prefer the younger and unmarried ones who wont have the "My wife is waiting " mantra everytime a serious issue needs to be tackled. Yet she wants to get half of what your effort did, while keeping hers? 3 Likes |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by biolabee(m): 7:18pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
harakiri: Bro note i said wealth gained during the partnership that is the principle The opp cost of time which can not be regained and the supposed equal stake in raising children and other actvities account for the 50% Why it hits so many pple is that they really become prosperous when they are married If u wait till u are 45 when you are worth say 1bn, if u divorce 10 yrs after and suppose u are now worth 1.5bn. the judge will divide only 0.5 bn so the lady gets 250m . Not badd eh Guys I think it satisfies the principle of social justice Some guys have gotten favor they never would have imagined just because of their wife @Beync Thanks |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by biolabee(m): 7:25pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
dayo good points u make there though i beg to differ The role of a homemaker is not as easy as u make it sound To manage 1 kid is big enough not to talk of managing 3 or more Nowadays u have paedos roaming the street, internet porn is ubiquitous and so called helps are demons in human clothing u may not afford the luxury of a help The funny thing is that this woman if she was working may even earn more than you! |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by ThiefOfHearts(f): 7:29pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
you sound ridiculous, dayo once again you're blaming this on men who beg you people to buy ring and get wife? George Clooney is living his life. No wife. Na you Nigerians so obsessed with marriage aka "I need someone to make my food cos everyday mama put is too much money" when a woman takes time off to raise children, can you calculate how much she is losing? THAT is what the courts calculate. The time and money she forgoes/forgone while raising the kids. Dont know why Im in this thread sef, you people are drunk off rancid palmwine anyway |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Sagamite(m): 7:37pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: No doubt, women contribute in marriage. More so those that are good wives. My point is just that, in cases of extreme wealth: 1) That contribution is not worth the excesses the West award to women as "their contribution". 2) These daft laws do not even make any logical attempt at applying a weighting to the contribution or other more important efforts of the guy that led to wealth. There is effing NOTHING Heather Mills can or did contribute Paul McCartney making his money. If she sacrificed work, then she should be compensated on the most realistic returns she could have got if she did not. That will not be £25m. Furthermore, there are very few women these days one can even count as good wife. And in regards to the bolded, most men are not relaxed in marriage, they live a life having to compromise on illogical things, enduring unnecessary naggings and seeing a woman do ridiculous things that do not make sense to annoy a guy just because she wants "love to be proven". A single man will be able to make far more money than a married man. 2 Likes |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 7:41pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
Why cant the uber supportive, encouraging and whatever woman use her skills to better her own life when she was single? Surely everyone can tell us how rich they would have been if they didnt have children at least we should see evidence. Just like every Nigerian you meet in America would tell you stories of how many Million he would have had if he had stayed back in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by harakiri(m): 9:06pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
All these people claiming that a woman helps "build" his fortune are not being realistic. This claim only holds water if and only if the man had to rely on her WEALTH and CONNECTIONS to move up the ladder. Other than this,the claim is baseless and a mere regurgitation of crap the western law courts utilize in crippling men financially e.g The gold digging Heather Mills comes to mind. That being said, a man is more relaxed,focused and disciplined with achieving his goals in life when he isn't commited to anyone. Using myself as an example, i know how much i have achieved in my life when i remove "commitment" out of the equation. During those periods, i go to bed planning my next day,next week,what i intend to achieve before the week runs out and when i wake,all i do is focus on my goals. Throw a woman into the mix and there's distraction. You have to make sacrifices and as SAGAMITE rightfully pointed out. . .endure and do all kinds of dumb a$$ nonsense to "prove your love". One of my businesses involves exportation of mineral ore. I can leave lagos for weeks at a time sourcing for product to export to europe without bothering much about who misses me or not. If another business opportunity turns up,i can jump on a plane and leave the country without thinking twice. Would i be this focused with a madam in the house? NO! So what on earth are you people talking about? I am not emotionally needy. All the "support" i need comes from my brain. I don't need a woman to "help" me plan my way up the ladder. My head does that for me. So once again, wetin una dey talk? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 9:08pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
^^ SImple question: Why cant she use the support and encouragement to enrich herself 2 Likes |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Sagamite(m): 9:29pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
harakiri: Apart from her feeling neglected because you just travel off at the drop of a business pin, she will also start directly accusing you of cheating if you travel a lot. She passes her insecurities over to you. That is not the problem, it is the crude and exploitative way it is passed that is annoying by most girls. It is very nice if a girl misses you, but quite annoying if it is brought across as a fight or emotional blackmail. How many guys have never heard "Why are we going out if we don't get to see each other"? As I said, a single man can achieve far more than a married man. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 9:33pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 9:34pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
Sagamite: Agreed with the part in bold. 1 Like |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 9:41pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 9:45pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover:' For the part in bold to be true. We need evidence among single people that shows the Men and women are equal. Number of single millionaire men vs Number of single millionaire women )I mean those who use their brains to make money not those who sleep with Senators.) If someone is not succesful single what evidence can she now show that she would have been a millionaire if not for marriage, child bearing and home keeping. The fact is most women prefer to hide under the guise of I am a woman and weaker thereby being lazy and look for who to leech on. Seriously what do Men gain from marriages except grey hairs and someone to nag at you 24-7 why it goes down share your fortune down the middle Like I have told you. A cast iron pre-nup. Make your own money and keep it while I keep mine. 50/50 contribution to the running of the house and children. This might include cost of getting a maid if the work would hinder your career. BTW career women are sexier. Nothing better than being married to some CEO or VP of a company compare that to marrying a Housewife who knits and watches TV all day. Teaching the children laziness. And making the female children feel all they need to do to succeed in life is to wake up, eat, make up, sit in front of TV, gossip and analyse Genevieve Nnaji later in the evening fork the man and nag him after 1 Like |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 9:49pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: You know in the corporate world most men actually avoid the burden of marriage until they are managers and partners? The firm I used to work for in Naija a lot of our partners became married as Managers and Senior managers, Struggling to think of one who married as an associate. Making money involves taking risks, Women are averse to taking risks and would discourage a man from taking a risk. mainly because she knows if it fails her source of feeding is gone. As a single man if you have $30k you can risk $25k but when married, the wife would always tell you "If it fails what would we eat?" A lot of married men attest to this |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 10:02pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Sagamite(m): 10:06pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: If she contributed to the success, then she is entitled to her commeasurable contribution. E.g. the BET woman got her fair and reasonable share. The Deloitte Partner woman is also another good example of someone that got what she was entitled to based on opportunity cost. She was making serious money, equally as talented and gave it up to be a housewife and was not in a position (due to age) to go back and make it. On the other hand, this is pure daft, a marriage of 3 years to a limited-talent woman asking for £5m. Or married to a talentless dental nurse asking for one-third of your multi-million earnings. http://www.flip.co.uk/_uploads/060525%20-%20The%20Daily%20Mail%20-%20JP%20%28McFarlane%29.pdf http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-552384.html Not having the talent for jackshit and marrying a rich man and then talking about some lame entitlement or community/union earnings or "I am used to that lifestyle" is total tosh! chaircover: I disagree with this completely. There is not enough academic evidence to back up such assertion. On the other hand, there are several tons of men that have made it without having a wife/girlfriend. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by chic2pimp(m): 10:10pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
dayokanu: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NADA,ZILCH,ZERO,ODO,NIENTE,NICHTS,НИЧЕГО,没什么 |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 10:11pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by biolabee(m): 10:12pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chair. uve said it all |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Sagamite(m): 10:13pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: Absolutely not! Most women have no jack-arse clue about the fundamentals and Critical Success Factors of their husband's line of work or business. That is why when most of these man pass away, the business collapses, is managed by someone else or is sold. How can you contribute to something you don't understand? Please cut this poor argument that most men need women to steer them otherwise they will go wild. Come on, Mami! |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 10:13pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: You dont have to look far, Check the number of women who are all too willing to split into two money they didnt know how it came about. Start from this thread I can hand on heart say that not one of my friends is a housewife and Many many women all over the world work their socks off and at the same time juggle family life. If these women work and make a living for themselves too, why would they want to take out of a mans sweat. OK Ask how many of your well to do friends would part with half of their income if a divorce happens. Knit all day? you are having a laugh Please give us some credit. Cant count the number of women who give all sort of excuse just to sit and do nothing aside watch TV Your millionaire theory wont work because millionaires are not a true reflection of the real world that we live in. How many millionaires do you personally know compared to Mr & Mrs Average? Millionaires are symbol of success in any society. If you claim women have the ability to make as much as men, Then the success stories should be comparable especially in the developed world where there are no gender discrimination Risks Yes by all means as a single man you can take as many risks as you want but that is no guarantee that you will make a penny out of it. Ask all those guys walking around aimlessly in country's I cant even locate on a map. SHow us one millionaire who didnt take risks? Risks makes a succesful man except for those that inherit money. Its always safer to keep your money in the bank but only that you can barely become succesful by doing that. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by dayokanu(m): 10:15pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: Now can we know the number of sngle women who have made it big and compare it to the men? This would go a long way in proving to us that marriage slows down women as it does for men |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by obowunmi(m): 10:19pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
lots of conjectures on this thread ---- |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by obowunmi(m): 10:20pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
For once, I agree with chaircover -- |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nobody: 10:30pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
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Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by obowunmi(m): 10:33pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
^^^^ articulated your points properly. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Sagamite(m): 10:37pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
chaircover: Women do bring value. The value is just not worth half of your asset if you are HNW and above. Intuition? Come on, courts should not make judgement based on such platitudes and unmeasurable, intangible and unprovable assumptions. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by Nekai(f): 10:55pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
Chaircover you have hit the nail on the head as usual. The funny thing is, in my part of the world the woman makes more than the man does in many cases. In fact women in the u.s. actually are actually attaining college degrees at a higher rate than men. This is in spite of the fact that we have to do the housework, cooking, and child rearing. And it's now official: Women dominate men at every level of higher education, in terms of degrees conferred. Here's the breakdown for graduates of the class of 2009: Associate's Degrees: 167 for women for every 100 for men. Bachelor's Degrees: 142 for women for every 100 for men. Master's Degrees: 159 for women for every 100 for men. Professional Degrees: 104 for women for every 100 for men. Doctoral Degrees: 107 for women for every 100 for men.(http://mjperry..com/2009/06/women-dominate-higher-education-at.html) It can be agreed upon that the males here are trying to protect their potential empires and the females are trying to protect their fellow women from a potential poverty in the case of divorce. What's not understandable is the attitude that women are a liability, a wife contributes barely anything to a marriage, and a man can be significantly more successful if he stays single. It sounds like some men don't understand the value of a good woman. It almost sounds like a hatred for the female species. Men like these grow to truly despise their wives once they have a few children since that is all they are good for. Why else get married then? According to some of you guys you will end up financially, socially, mentally, and vocationally limited in a marriage. Why get married then? Why date women at all then? Use your millions to buy prostitutes who will at least tell you upfront how much she is milking out of you. Pay some woman to be a surrogate mother to your kids. Please, just don't get married if all you see out of it is pain and frustration. Don't forget, if women are this bad, there is another option out there. |
Re: The Nonsense Called Divorce Settlement by harakiri(m): 10:57pm On Mar 25, 2011 |
@chaircover. . . Two heads are better than one ONLY IF both heads think rationally. A man removes emotion when taking decisions. Women on the other hand react to how they "feel" at the moment. . .the later is a recipe for disaster. When i put my engineering degree in the closet and went into business full time,everybody discouraged me (even the lady i was dating at the time). Today,those same people who said i was making a bad decision are the same ones who sing my praise and say "I KNEW THAT GUY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING". From what i know, the only women who can bring some quality advice in business are the ones who contributed FINANCIALLY e.g a lady who brings a few million to add to what i have to lift tantalite and export to Poland. This is not the same as one who "supports" you by cooing "everything will be alright" into your ear and when divorce comes,she expects half! Wetin be dat? 1 Like |
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