esteduca:

Control yourself and keep watching the show!

Mr, Cork:

MzDarkSkin. but why are u black women sSooooooo stingy with puuuny? why?

Because ancient black women had to deal with ancient tards like yourself , they taught their descendants how to deal with imb3ciles. , my fore-mothers did a good job as you can see!

@chima, YANNO! Cork is definitely delusional lol I can see him in London, with a 'will work for punny!" sign

Isoke:

How about this: Control your self.  To be tempted is a trial, but mastery of self shows even you can overcome the more base desires of your nature.

Real. Talk.

Wislet:

When women pay deaf ears to their men's protests, disaster is not too far.

deloon:

Oh! How I wish I were in your shoes , I' would take that @$$ for a spin. After all, she was warned and you aren't marrried.

esteduca:

BTW I was dreaming to have sex with my ex wife best friend and I finish to do it with her sister.
Well, no surprise for her! She was knowing everything about me and my attributes. Girls speak a lot!

Isoke:

@ Blood Shed What an intelligent and well thought out response.  I will leave the F**KING UP to you, sir.

Anyhow, I'm not saying a woman should be silly and parade her attractive gfs in front of her man.  That is FOOLISH thing to do, and any woman who ignores her man's warning is being silly and asking for trouble.

I only mean that in the end a man has a choice about where he sticks his manliness.  He can be tempted but no one is putting a gun to his head, saying screw this woman or DIE!  If a woman is expected to practice some self control and restraint, why should men be freed from the same responsibility.

Truth!

Isoke:

To take MY personal OPINION as a reflection of any of society's views is the worst thing to do.  You would find some pretty unhappy people if that were the case, sir.

And despite his girlfriend's stupidity (and she is either attempting a blatant set up or she really is that damn silly), again, he has a choice.  I don't care if she parades 100 fat asses in front of him, in the end his is responsible for his own actions.  That would be like me blaming my man for always having fine male friends around.  I have a choice who my thighs part for, and ultimately it is my responsibility to control myself.

Point blank. Period.

Isoke:

in my eyes a cheat is a cheat is a cheat. Period.

In the past when I have cheated I could have supplied myself with 1,000 excuses but in the end I was still guilty of the crime, and I had a choice before cracking open my legs and doing what I wanted to do.

Case in point I had a similar issue with my ex he kept a house full of male friends (and some females) at all times of day and night.  Very good looking and sexually attractive men at that.  Members of his business and motorcycle clubs.  At different times they tried to test me out: brushing up against me, teasing, flirting, one going so far to make an offer and slapping me on my backside --- and I immediately let my man know about all this behavior and checked those men.

Now will I say I was not tempted?  Hell, I am no angel.  I definitely looked and found quite a few of them attractive, but I knew to carry my self off to my man, or lock myself away from their presence when I was about to avoid drama with my man. I was there for his personal pleasure, not theirs.  It's called remembering you have a Significant Other, and respecting them!

Could I have tried something?  Sure I could have, but I chose not to. Aha, it's that damned self control thing I keep bringing up. 

It would have been too easy for me to blame my man for keeping such attractive company about, but at the end of the day my choice was all mine, no matter what he did.  Yeah, he could be blamed for being  faulty in the attention he paid to keeping other men from seeing and having access to his woman, but ultimately I had to make a choice to be in control of my damn self.

Women can be tempted as well as any man.  We are no different from you all in that regard.  And so if I won't excuse myself from being responsible, I'm not about to set a double standard for men either.

Isoke:

I will agree to an extent men have been castigated when it comes to unfaithfulness, cheating and lying.  Women have been just as abused or worse when it comes to this kind of labeling.  What I always find is one of us (women) or one of you (men), are always trying to point the finger and play the victim.  Truth is both are just as capable of lying and cheating. This is not a blame game, this is about being responsible and truthful!

Isoke:


I am not coy about the truth or what I think, so we can discuss frankly.  I take as good as I give.  Let's talk about this.  Men seem to feel sometimes that we box you all in and give you no ground to fully express yourselves.  I am not that woman, I do want to know exactly what you think.  It enlightens me all the more.

If this chick is blatantly setting her man up, she is wrong.  I have already stated that.  But he has a part to take up in this too.  I am just saying he should take responsibility for his part, no matter her guile or gullibility.

Second, I agree there is an all time high of male hatred, and there is an all time high of hatred of women that stems back thousands of years.  I do not mean to undercut or undermine the relevance of the truth of male hatred.  It particularly permeates society these days, and has led to some serious emasculation issues for men, and has caused a serious balance shift in relationships between men and women.  It has caused fathers to be disrespected and destroyed in the eyes of children, when a single mother or even married mother cannot separate her hatred of a man, from rearing her children and allowing that man to fulfill his role as father and provider to his children.  

Women have abused men in some the cruelest and wickedest ways.  Even I will admit a woman's type of hatred and deception can score a lot longer and deeper than a man's if she intent on hatred and cruelty.  However, this is not all women.  Not all men are dogs, sorry, cheats and liars. I know this because of the good men in my life from all walks of life, backgrounds, continents etc.  I am one woman who can say I love men without rancor, even though I have had some bad bouts in relationships, but I also realize it did not make them bad men, it's just we were not right or not ready for each other.  I love my brothers, I do.  If nothing else I say rings true with you please know this.  There are other women, your women who feel the same regard, respect and love for you.

I had the misfortune of working for local family court for two years when I was younger and I watched so many men come in filing for custody of their children, men who wanted to be in their childrens' lives, men I offered legal help and counsel to (when I was not supposed to) because it broke my heart to see them and the children taken through the ringer.  I have watched trifling women use their children as pawns to manipulate and harass a man, through constant court motions, and taking his children.  I have watched men I have loved, who were my own lovers, suffer at the hands of their wretched baby mothers.  I have seen the grief and had to comfort many a man beyond my capacity in these scenarios.  It is evil.  It is wrong.  It is one of the vilest things a woman could do, keeping children from a loving, and well meaning father. There is no excuse for it.

So don't tell me what direction I don't want to take this conversation in.  I have more compassion and depth of feeling than you realize when it comes to these things "brother."

Isoke:

Trust me, I am NOT the enemy. You're so busy trying to see me not taking responsibility, that you do not realize I am not negating the truth of the matter, but accepting the responsibility, but only for myself and my actions.  I cannot and will not be a representative of all women, I am only myself and that is where my ultimate responsibility lies.

Isoke:

You seem to be looking for an argument, when I do not desire to offer one that is contentious, but only stating my truth, and my view of things.  Do you hate and distrust women so much that you have to be on the defense so hard?  I am asking, not accusing. Perhaps, I should just interpret your vehemence for passion on this particular subject.

Blood_Shed:


This male is a prick  for continuing to entertain this broad and if I knew him I'll literally beat some sense into him.

Isoke:


And despite his girlfriend's stupidity (and she is either attempting a blatant set up or she really is that damn silly), again, he has a choice. If he really wanted her to stop bringing these women to his house he would stop her.  What man is really just going to let a woman run anyone or anything through his house without seriously checking her. Come, the hell on! 

N101:

Isoke & Blood Shed.  At the end of the day you're both saying the same thing:

Let's see where the poster takes this.

Isoke:

@ Blood Shed One, trust that I totally meant the "brother" comment as a barb, which quite suits your thorny nature.  You feel how you feel , you're entitled to that, I am just thankful not ALL men think as you do.

Two, since females are the enemy, perhaps you should just be screwing your damn self, since they are so tricky, so loathsome.  You would think you did not come from a woman's womb.  Misogyny is hard for me to truly understand, no matter how blatant.

Three, lol, I have no reason to backpedal for the likes of you, sir.  I was just stating what I already had, that which you continually ignored because of course you only want to see and acknowledge what you wish.  I don't know you well enough, or care to, to make a friend or enemy of you.

I am civilized, but let you tell it all women are evil banshees and shrews just looking to trick or turn a man into ashes.  Your bitterness is sad to watch.  But it is what it is.  I am done with the subject, or at least my addresses to you.

Blood_Shed:

And I'm not bitter, just calling it what it is. If that's misogyny then so be it. But Misandry (do you even know what that means, don't google it lol) is in full effect in 2011. Any misogyny nowadays is reactionary. A man who trusts a woman in 2011 knowing what could go wrong in all areas is a fool, including and especially the OP.

Blood_Shed:

She agreed with me innit lol

HAR-HAR, no I don't screw myself, I get what I need then disappear. And yes I came from a woman's womb but did I have a choice how I was born and more importantly to be born in the first place. And if more men thought like me, then we wouldn't be having these problems.

And I'm not bitter, just calling it what it is. If that's misogyny then so be it. But Misandry (do you even know what that means, don't google it lol) is in full effect in 2011. Any misogyny nowadays is reactionary. A man who trusts a woman in 2011 knowing what could go wrong in all areas is a fool, including and especially the OP.

SexyDuby:

Wonder why some women like playing with FIRE, pscheeeew. Your woman needs 2 be taught a HARD LESSON!