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Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by onuman: 12:32pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Oh yeah? If the army is loyal to the constitution, how did Murtala, Buhari, Abacha, Babangida take over??
You are in Nigeria, not US!

Glad that you understood that someone was leader of Nigeria when Muritalla, Buhari, Babangida and Abacha took over government. It becomes much more easier to send out Tinubu after the court has declared him illegitimate president.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Alpharey: 12:50pm On Jul 24, 2023
Dittodat:


Ayiri Omo IPOB.
Allah does not support IPOB retards.

IPOB is an indigenous peoples organization unlike Boko Haram,Bandits and skull miners. Do your allah support those?
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Dittodat: 1:20pm On Jul 24, 2023
Alpharey:


IPOB is an indigenous peoples organization unlike Boko Haram,Bandits and skull miners. Do your allah support those?

IPOB is nothing but a religious and tribal militant terrorist organization.
STFU and get lost Ayiri omo IPOB.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by garfield1: 1:30pm On Jul 24, 2023
onuman:

They can be mere speculations only before a roguish arbiter who wants to destroy the country's electoral system because of one man, Tinubu.
A patriotic arbiter will question why the same system meant for transmission of both National Assembly and presidential elections functioned only for National Assembly elections.
I don't think that judges in a modern country shall be zombies (like you?) operated by Tinubu's money and influence.

You know these judges will rule in favour of tinubu so forget it
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Mrtaye: 2:14pm On Jul 24, 2023
irunoko:
so what's true?
The truth is that nothing will happen just like nothing happened when the president was announced
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Alpharey: 2:17pm On Jul 24, 2023
Dittodat:


IPOB is nothing but a religious and tribal militant terrorist organization.
STFU and get lost Ayiri omo IPOB.

Have you taken your sniper. Since Sunday Igboho has dashed your hopes and Fulanis are moving in via Ilorin. Go face your wahala.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by onuman: 2:21pm On Jul 24, 2023
garfield1:


You know these judges will rule in favour of tinubu so forget it


Why will the judges rule in favour of Tinubu at the expense of Nigeria, at the possibility of fracas crushing Nigeria?
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by vicleen45: 2:22pm On Jul 24, 2023
Please we still stand on the mandate. No body should complain at all.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by garfield1: 2:22pm On Jul 24, 2023
onuman:



Why will the judges rule in favour of Tinubu at the expense of Nigeria, at the possibility of fracas crushing Nigeria?

And who told you atiku or obi is good for Nigeria? Tinubu is the best for us
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by chivic(m): 3:31pm On Jul 24, 2023
April396949:
This statement by Atiku shows his lack of understanding of the importance of political leaders and their impact on the nation. Removing Tinubu as president may not directly cause the heavens to fall, but it can have serious consequences for the stability and progress of the country. It is important to consider the potential ramifications and evaluate the abilities and track records of political leaders before making such assertions.



May God help this country.If it is true that Tinubu did not win ,then the mandate is a stolen one and should not stand because it is illegal .Are we saying that dethroning illegality and enthroning legality will make the country scatter .Who has done this to us? Corruption have perverted our reasoning .And Evil have taken sway over our land issuing threat to the citizen . Arrogantly claiming that if Evil is not allowed to stand then anarchy will reign .Oh God help this country,for this has been the philosophy that has been killing this great giant called Nigeria ,making mushroom countries like Benin republic boast of better currency than Nigeria
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 5:49pm On Jul 24, 2023
onuman:


Glad that you understood that someone was leader of Nigeria when Muritalla, Buhari, Babangida and Abacha took over government. It becomes much more easier to send out Tinubu after the court has declared him illegitimate president.

You didn't answer the question: why didn't the army stay loyal to the constitution??
Yes, someone was leader but someone else took over enforcement - and the courts you're counting on couldn't do anything because they have no way of enforcing anything! That's the whole point!
Anyway all this will soon be moot. I just hope those judges at least try to pretend they actually considered the evidence, make it look like it was a close a decision
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 6:04pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


Did anybody believe Abacha will be removed or Jonathan will be defeated? Those are instances and u are here talking like I'm speaking Spanish.

u use abracadabra in imo state like we have not had other judgements like osun state and many more.

Pls let's look at what is at stake and b4 the courts and if we want to behave like nothing matters then let's see where it will take us.

Other countries that protests have overtaken the country are not aliens or spirits. One thing can lead to another.

Only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria and maybe not.

@bolded, now you're getting it! You're are asking pro-APC judges to throw out APC and in so doing may be "destroy Nigeria"! All to satisfy your sekf-delusion.
Anyway, all this will soon be moot. I just hope those judges at least try to pretend they actually considered the evidence, make it look like it was a close a decision.
Truth is, even if evidence emerges of Tinubu personally rigging that election, those judges will not remove him.
Same way the totally corrupt Tinubu (MC Oluomo) will "win" the 2027 election even if only 10% of the population supports him!

** I think Imo was the first time in electoral history where someone who came 4th was declared winner and quickly sworn in!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Gandrova: 6:34pm On Jul 24, 2023
Naijanascam:
It will be jubilations galore like when Nigeria won football gold in Atlanta '96
Biggest illusion
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 6:35pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


@bolded, now you're getting it! You're are asking pro-APC judges to throw out APC and in so doing may be "destroy Nigeria"! All to satisfy your sekf-delusion.
Anyway, all this will soon be moot. I just hope those judges at least try to pretend they actually considered the evidence, make it look like it was a close a decision.
Truth is, even if evidence emerges of Tinubu personally rigging that election, those judges will not remove him.
Same way the totally corrupt Tinubu (MC Oluomo) will "win" the 2027 election even if only 10% of the population supports him!

** I think Imo was the first time in electoral history where someone who came 4th was declared winner and quickly sworn in!

How can following the constitution and law destroy Nigeria?

when Abacha died or Jonathan left did it destroy Nigeria? So why should removing tinubu destroy Nigeria if it follows the constitution and law?

pls let's use our sense not sentiments.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Gandrova: 6:38pm On Jul 24, 2023
dmbb:
Nothing would happen, in fact that is the right thing to do. I only pity those that sincerely love Tinubu, I know for sure that they will continue to be disappointed
Tell me one thing that has materialized:in his favor since you started supporting the Con man called Pithobi?
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by bizhop01: 6:39pm On Jul 24, 2023
2023 presidential election is so different from previous elections INEC conducted since 1999 cool
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 7:06pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


How can following the constitution and law destroy Nigeria?

when Abacha died or Jonathan left did it destroy Nigeria? So why should removing tinubu destroy Nigeria if it follows the constitution and law?

pls let's use our sense not sentiments.

Those were your own exact words. See them below again. And you keep mentioning Abacha and Jonathan like an idiot. Abacha DIED in office. Jonathan CONCEDED defeat and VOLUNTARILLY left!
See Imo case again below. What do you think would happen if it were president??

jaxxy:

only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria...

Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 7:10pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Those were your own exact words. See them below again. And you keep mentioning Abacha and Jonathan like an idiot. Abacha DIED in office. Jonathan CONCEDED defeat and VOLUNTARILLY left!
See Imo case again below. What do you think would happen if it were president??



seems u didn't understand what i meant by that statement u quoted.

I mean if the judges don't do the constitutional and right thing it may or may not destroy Nigeria. just like in Jonathan's case where the right thing was done cos buhari won even tho Jonathan controlled the Military as u claim for tinubu a months old inec selected president

Hope u understand my exact words now so u stop sounding like a dingbat.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 7:31pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


seems u didn't understand what i meant by that statement u quoted.

I mean if the judges don't do the constitutional and right thing it may or may not destroy Nigeria. just like in Jonathan's case where the right thing was done cos buhari won even tho Jonathan controlled the Military as u claim for tinubu a months old inec selected president

Hope u understand my exact words now so u stop sounding like a dingbat.

Stop being ridiculous. How else can anyone interpret:

only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria

The only thing that will risk destruction of Nigeria is trying to remove a sitting president by force or court order - and those judges know that!!
Any other scenario, nothing will happen - just as nothing happened durring inauguration!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 7:56pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Stop being ridiculous. How else can anyone interpret:

only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria

The only thing that will risk destruction of Nigeria is trying to remove a sitting president by force or court order - and those judges know that!!
Any other scenario, nothing will happen - just as nothing happened durring inauguration!

was Abacha removed by his will or he died of old age or sickness?

Dude better get real. We have no president yet based on the constitution of Nigeria.

Let's stop decieving ourselves that one man cam do whatever he likes and hold a nation ransom and nothing will happen.

Jonathan did the right thing by saying his ambition is not worth the blood of Nigerians we wait for the judges to do the right thing and tinubu to comply. Its very simple.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 9:23pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


was Abacha removed by his will or he died of old age or sickness?

Dude better get real. We have no president yet based on the constitution of Nigeria.

Let's stop decieving ourselves that one man cam do whatever he likes and hold a nation ransom and nothing will happen.

Jonathan did the right thing by saying his ambition is not worth the blood of Nigerians we wait for the judges to do the right thing and tinubu to comply. Its very simple.

What's wrong with you and this Abacha stuff?? Abacha was not removed by force or killed in a coup. He died in office!. Yess, one man can hold a nation ransome. They are called dictators. Nigeria's president is so powerful, and everyone else powerless that conditions are perfect for a dictator to emerge - like in communsts countries where the leader always get 95+ percent of the vote!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Akuruoulo(m): 9:28pm On Jul 24, 2023
helinues:
No baga on this crust can remove his Excellency Tinubu.

U have been in pain since May .
I tot pronouncing tinubu as president will change ur lige
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 9:40pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


What's wrong with you and this Abacha stuff?? Abacha was not removed by force or killed in a coup. He died in office!. Yess, one man can hold a nation ransome. They are called dictators. Nigeria's president is so powerful, and everyone else powerless that conditions are perfect for a dictator to emerge - like in communsts countries where the leader always get 95+ percent of the vote!

why wasn't Jonathan a dictator? Have I only mentioned Abacha? what about Jonathan? was he not removed as an incumbent? Has that ever happened b4?

Also was Abacha ill or we just call it a mystery or act of God?
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 10:25pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


why wasn't Jonathan a dictator? Have I only mentioned Abacha? what about Jonathan? was he not removed as an incumbent? Has that ever happened b4?

Also was Abacha ill or we just call it a mystery or act of God?

Jonathan CONCEDED he lost the election AND left VOLUNTARILLY!!!
You yourself said if he hadn't maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria!!!
Knowing this, if you were a judge would you vote to remove Jonathan if he had "won" the election?
What do you think would have happened if Jonathan had rigged the election and won?? Do you think judges his own party appointed would go deaf and vote to remove him, knowing full well it could mean destruction of the country??
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 10:33pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Jonathan CONCEDED he lost the election AND left VOLUNTARILLY!!!
You yourself said if he hadn't maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria!!!
Knowing this, if you were a judge would you vote to remove Jonathan if he had "won" the election?
What do you think would have happened if Jonathan had rigged the election and won?? Do you think judges his own party appointed would go deaf and vote to remove him, knowing full well it could mean destruction of the country??
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!

Jonathan can say he did loose even tho he lost since he controls the military now and hold the whole nation to ransom and ask Nigerians to do their worst.

Cos that's what ur asking tinubu to do.

The judges have their job to uphold the constitution and law and if they can't do that cos they are loyal then we fall into a scenario of Jonathan not conceded and facing the consequences whatsoever that may have been.

The country does not have to turn upside because of 1 man.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 11:20pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


Jonathan can say he did loose even tho he lost since he controls the military now and hold the whole nation to ransom and ask Nigerians to do their worst.

Cos that's what ur asking tinubu to do.

The judges have their job to uphold the constitution and law and if they can't do that cos they are loyal then we fall into a scenario of Jonathan not conceded and facing the consequences whatsoever that may have been.

The country does not have to turn upside because of 1 man.

You keep mumuishly saying "because of one man". Are dictators usually two men??. "One man" you handed control of your military and all law enforcement agencies in the country. One man you sat back and watched him put his loyalists in all key positions - people he brought from obscurity into the limelight. After you have allowed all that, you now expect some people in robes, appointed by his own party, with zero enforcement power, to be blind to all that and now vote to magically remove him and hand you power!
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 11:34pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


You keep mumuishly saying "because of one man". Are dictators usually two men??. "One man" you handed control of your military and all law enforcement agencies in the country. One man you sat back and watched him put his loyalists in all key positions - people he brought from obscurity into the limelight. After you have allowed all that, you now expect some people in robes, appointed by his own party, with zero enforcement power, to be blind to all that and now vote to magically remove him and hand you power!
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!

Yes same deluded Nigerians that went against Jonathan and threatened a parallel government with all the military at his disposal.

taking like we are a full fledged dictatorships with no laws or constitution so everybody should kiss a dictators ass.

same tinubu and co who claim fought for democracy against abacha now ment to run a dictatorships according to u and we should automatically kiss his ass
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 11:41pm On Jul 24, 2023
jaxxy:


Yes same deluded Nigerians that went against Jonathan and threatened a parallel government with all the military at his disposal.

taking like we are a full fledged dictatorships with no laws or constitution so everybody should kiss a dictators ass.

same tinubu and co who claim fought for democracy against abacha now ment to run a dictatorships according to u and we should automatically kiss his ass

Point is, point I have been trying to get into your skull, YOU ARE DELUDED if you think those judges, products of the CORRUPT Nigerian judicial system, will in a million years vote to remove Tinubu!
No judges voted to remove Jonathan after he "won" a presidential election!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 11:54pm On Jul 24, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Point is, point I have been trying to get into your skull, YOU ARE DELUDED if you think those judges, products of the CORRUPT Nigerian judicial system, will in a million years vote to remove Tinubu!
No judges voted to remove Jonathan after he "won" a presidential election!

And let me correct u Jonathan didn't cheerfully and willfully concede defeat he was pressured abd then thought of the consequences of blantly going against the law and constitution which was made obvious to Nigerians and did the right thing.

Buhari and apc did not kiss Jonathan ass in 2015 they pressured him and even threatened him with all the military he get according to u like tinubu has.
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by PoliteActivist: 2:04am On Jul 25, 2023
jaxxy:


And let me correct u Jonathan didn't cheerfully and willfully concede defeat he was pressured abd then thought of the consequences of blantly going against the law and constitution which was made obvious to Nigerians and did the right thing.

Buhari and apc did not kiss Jonathan ass in 2015 they pressured him and even threatened him with all the military he get according to u like tinubu has.

You are arguing dishonesty. You are the one who said that if Jonathan had CHOSEN to fight, Nigeria could have been destroyed. You are also the one who said Jonathan did it to avoid bloodshed. Now you are talking about "he was pressured abd then thought of the consequences of blantly going against the law and constitution". What law and constitution would he be going against by challenging an election result??
Here you are comparing a scenario where a southern civilian is up against a northern ex military c-in-c of a north-dominated army!! Comparing apples and oranges!
But all that's beside the point, which is that NO amount of being right and citation of law precedent will make this Nigerian SC almost vote to remove Tinubu.
I am staunchly Obidient but I'm NOT delusional. Only a wishful thinker would be harboring such hope!
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by Came4amod: 2:32am On Jul 25, 2023
djon78:


Where Tinubu get money

Who was Tinubu even before 1999

Peter Obi even had money more than Tinubu post 1999

Tinubu cornered the resources of Lagos State


If you want to call rich Yoruba men
You talk to of Bashorun MKO Abiola

Na small children like una wey Dem born in the 1990s go dey yarn nonsense

Tinubu no see money reach orji uzor kalu or Peter Obi in there younger years

The very rich Nigerians then were the Dantatas( from which Dangote emerged presently), Indimi, MKO Abiola, Ibru family, Mai Derive, Arthur Nzeribe, plenty big men for East like Ekene dili chukwu from Nnewi

Who be Tinubu where these Men were

Even his set like orji uzor kalu, Peter Obi
Them see better money before he cornered Lagos State resources

Thank God I am not talking about 1999 .. because we are in 2023 now ..no one is more capable than tinbu right now
Re: Heavens Won’t Fall If You Remove Tinubu As President - Atiku Urges Tribunal by jaxxy(m): 6:50am On Jul 25, 2023
PoliteActivist:


You are arguing dishonesty. You are the one who said that if Jonathan had CHOSEN to fight, Nigeria could have been destroyed. You are also the one who said Jonathan did it to avoid bloodshed. Now you are talking about "he was pressured abd then thought of the consequences of blantly going against the law and constitution". What law and constitution would he be going against by challenging an election result??
Here you are comparing a scenario where a southern civilian is up against a northern ex military c-in-c of a north-dominated army!! Comparing apples and oranges!
But all that's beside the point, which is that NO amount of being right and citation of law precedent will make this Nigerian SC almost vote to remove Tinubu.
I am staunchly Obidient but I'm NOT delusional. Only a wishful thinker would be harboring such hope!

So in ur opinion the constitution will be sent to the dustbin by the SC because we know the issues at hand are very obvious and serious.

However don't care if Nigeria perishes because of 1 man's ambition. Do u see any country blantly destroying is constitution? Even real dictators and communists Putin and China have to amend their constitution to have their way and u are saying Nigeria should throw their constitution into the dustbin because sm1 was made president against the constitution yet we are in a so called democracy.

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