Lord_Reed:

@Inky
I did not stretch the story in any way. Please don't misquote me cos I never said the man was away fending for his family in that story. Re-read my post please.

Now as for justifying the woman submissive role I brought you that picture because it adequately depicts the maternal instinct which is meant for the defense of the homestead. The man who is Leader directs how this is done so the "directee" submits to the director's leading. This is how harmony exists one leads the other submits. It is not a degrading of the woman, it is not an aggrandisement of the man. It simple natural logic something you practice in your offices and businesses everyday.

Repubocrat:

Better yet, they shouldn't even use any religious quotation as grounds for their opinion in a secular discussion.

Mrs, Chima:

I have mentors that are heavily into the Word and often time I debate with them.      I am not religious but I am not atheist.  And it is sad that those who are "religious" doesn't even know the Bible they claimed to worship.  SMH. 

I was going to go deeper but didn't want to chase the demons away.        You raised an interesting point, they commands submissive woman but WON'T DIE FOR HER.  WTF.

I also want to add that submissive doesn't mean to yield to everything that is good AND bad.  Use common sense Ladies, if the man that you are submitting is beating you or abusing your children, use your brain and un-submit!  If you have a good man and doesn't have an issue with submitting him and it WORKS FOR YOUR MARRIAGE, GREAT!  But, do not feel that in order to keep a man that you must REMAIN HIS SLAVE, no!  You deserve to be HIS QUEEN and if he can't treat you like a QUEEN then he is not YOUR KING.

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
Now you are becoming hysterical. I specifically pointed out that a woman who seeks a submissive man is up to no good and you translate that to all women are evil. Please calm down don't get into a tizzy aight?!

Now again let me reiterate the maternal instincts are primarily defensive, protective if you will, implying that the female is supposed to stay back, hang around the homestead. That kind of position does not give much room for aggressive seeking which is the males primary role.

All these are very clear, we know it but our so called modernity plays us up sometimes and we want to deny it. But I tell you if you seek harmony with your mate you will each other fulfill their respective roles.
BTW you didn't answer my question

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
Slow down. I'm not putting words in your mouth ok. I never said you said anything ok so keep your hair on.

My question was who bosom feeds a new born? Here's another on average who is physical stronger, male or female? Or who takes more risk daily? These are simply pointers to our nature the more closely we allow our roles to match those paths the more harmony there'll be.

A follower submits to a leader's direction that's the way it ought to be in a home. Don't be quick to equate follower to inferior. It is not. Rather a follower

ronkebp:

@ 3ndy, what transpired between you and your man is trivial, only in the sense that, how many minutes will it take you to make the pounded yam, we women have to pick our fights wisely, because he refused to help you make pounded yam or put water on the fire?, you were all worked up till he got angry and went upstair, you might think what you said was not that bad to make him angry, your tone might have.

ronkebp:

TOH dear, i only replied to her post of the pounded yam thingy, i did not read her other posts.

There are men who assist their wives that knows the worth of who they married. From the conversation between 3ndy above ooooo, there was no reason to start a fight over that, a woman must learn how to multi-task it is natural, you cannot force a man to assist you, especially when he is not willing, let it pass and let peace reign for a while.

Moreso i cannot imagine someone staying in an abusive,  relationship not marraige ooooo, so she chose that path.

ThiefOfHearts:

I suggest you read the rest of her posts.

anyone can multitask. most couples do things together.

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
I would like to see the study you are quoting because as far as I know statistically there are more male police officers and firefighters than female, just to mention two of the high risk jobs.

Anyway I am not here for a war of words with anyone. You are very free to express yourself in anyway you choose and live your life so. I have expressed my own and will live so.

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
The last part of my post was directed more at TofH.

I read the article at the link and find the 5th and 6th paragraph particularly interesting.

I Googled as you suggested but the evidence still points to men takinig more risk. You on the other hand may want to Google Testosterone and it's effect on women.

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
Even in gay and lesbian relationship one partner has to be the leader and the other the follower. It is our nature as humans. The reason women want to kick against this is because not all men carry leadership well but it still will not negate the males natural endowment.

The major difference is what I explained in the difference between a submissive man and a humble man. A submissive man believes he has no power or rights while the humble man uses his powers and rights to serve. A submissive woman on the other hand recognises her position as 2nd in command and uses it to serve as well. Ok yeah there are some mousy women who become doormats, for them its no longer submission but something uglier and demeaning.

In other words we could say that the word submission takes on a different meaning when is applied to the different sexes.

Lord_Reed:

@Inky
When next your boss gives you an order disagree with him/her let's see how much easier it will be for you in the office.

What is hypocritical about my statement? Listen whether anyone likes it or not the difference between male and female will continue to affect our interactions; call it sexism if you will but it is what it is.