lol you havent seen anything yet. You should read the atheist rants on the UK Guardian.

Its amazing how many atheists are struggling almost too hard to prove that the bible is simply a book of fairy tales. Are they trying to convince us or is this an attempt to sate their troubled consciences?

Has anyone noticed that NO atheist bothers about the quran and the muslims?

davidylan:

lol you havent seen anything yet. You should read the atheist rants on the UK Guardian.

Its amazing how many atheists are struggling almost too hard to prove that the bible is simply a book of fairy tales. Are they trying to convince us or is this an attempt to sate their troubled consciences?

Has anyone noticed that NO atheist bothers about the quran and the muslims?

them no get sense?
their nothingness heads would be rolling in the river,Tina Turner style

Christianity is always punch bag for these empty bags and don't you know why?
That is where the truth is?

Men don't bother attacking falsehood because devil will be fighting his fellow devil,what's the point ?.
But truth is always attacked.
Because there in lies the power of salvation and plan of eternity.

they can only keep banging their heads against the rock of truth.

If indeed they know there is no God, why are they so worried about the rest of us who choose to believe in the "sky pixie"?

my brother no mind them.
I wonder what they discuss in their nothingness conventions

It may go something like this:

Our theme today will be to prove that Christ did not come to save

                                           or

Today,we'll be talking of "Jehovah and the Israelites",a fabrication.

What a confused set of people.
Atheism should be the simplest belief in the world,a pre K kid could get it but they themselves make it complicated.
They ought to just say.

"we believe in no gods/god/God"

And prove to us that there is none.
Why do I understand what they should say,more than they do?

nwando:

why do these so called atheists bother reading the Bible ?

It's fascinating?

do they think Christians give a rat's behind about them?

Maybe some heretical Christians have told them Christ does, and since Christians are meant to be emulating Christ - well you do the maths.

get a life guys!

I don't think anyone that isn't already living will be able to read your post.

since you believe in nothing simply say[i],"I believe in Nothing"[/i] and move on.

Nietzsche ist tot.

why the epileptic fits to prove nothing

Why not? Everyone needs a hobby, don't they? Besides, some people enjoy masochism. Don't take that away from them, please.

FWIW, an atheist having an epileptic fit would probably not be trying to prove "nothing". Just saying.

Just go ahead and proclaim your "gospel" of nothingness

Will you listento the nihilists? Nietzsche's The Will to Power and Well's Mind at the end of its Tether should make an appearance as quoted texts. And if you're especially good, someone may pull out "Ecclesiastis" before the Kool-aid and the cookies are handed out.

Christians or even Muslims don't bother much about you guys.

You're kidding, right?

You are some insignificant fly on the wall.

You mean on a cosmic scale?

Reminds me of a little child struggling for attention
If you believe in nothing so be it.
You don't have to use scriptures to prove your nothingness.
Your doctrine should be able to stand on it's own without weak jabs at the Bible?
or can it?

What I like about you is how you clearly know next to nothing about atheists, but, with great hubris, be all hectorial about what atheists should do and shouldn't do. You wouldn't, by some chance, happen to be a dominionist, would you?

davidylan:

they can only keep banging their heads against the rock of truth.

If indeed they know there is no God, why are they so worried about the rest of us who choose to believe in the "sky pixie"?

The world isn't an island. Incidentally, most people couldn't help being worried when the "Sky Pixie" of a certain group of people somehow informed them that flying airplanes into buildings and blowing up people was a good idea. On the otherhand, I hear that a "Sky Pixie" told the president of the country that was most affected by the faith that moved towers, that an invasion or two was swell.

And who can forget the trouble in some part of Asia over a piece of land that two group of people of, relatively, the same ethnicity claim their respective, but not necessarily different - depending on who you listen to - "Sky Pixies" promised to them. Worried? Why worry? It's not like atheists believe in anything anyway.

davidylan:

Has anyone noticed that NO atheist bothers about the quran and the muslims?

You're lying again.

KAG enjoy urself trying to disprove the God theory. You seem to be consumed by it, best of luck.
Real christians cant be bothered.

davidylan:

KAG enjoy yourself trying to disprove the God theory. You seem to be consumed by it, best of luck.

LoL. Okay. Will you stop lying though? It's making baby Jesus cry .

Real christians can't be bothered.

"Real christians can't be bothered" trying to "disprove the God theory"? I agree. I can't help but wonder when it became a theory, though. Variant of the Christian Scientists?

where did i lie? Of course i didnt mean that in the literal sense but its bloody obvious that when atheists go on their "nobody must believe in God" rampage they are mostly focusing on christianity. you rarely see atheists belittling Mohammed like they do Jesus Christ. Perhaps for fear of their sword of islamic vengeance.

davidylan:

where did i lie?

For starters here:
"Has anyone noticed that NO atheist bothers about the quran and the muslims?"

Of course i didnt mean that in the literal sense

I think you're using the word "literal" wrongly.

but its bloody obvious that when atheists go on their "nobody must believe in God" rampage they are mostly focusing on christianity.

Except when they aren't. Of course, the fact I've never come across any atheist on a "nobody must believe in God" rampage may have something to do with me missing it. Could you give a couple of examples of atheists doing that "nobody must believe in God" rampage thing, please.

Edit: Just remembered two examples: Stalin and Mao Zedong. However, neither of them was "mostly focusing on Christianity".

you rarely see atheists belittling Muhammad like they do Jesus Christ.

LoL, then you haven't come across many atheists. As a matter of fact, most of the atheists I've come across actually have regard for Jesus and tend to revile Muhammad.

Perhaps for fear of their sword of islamic vengeance.

Yeah, that's got be it. *rolls eyes*

KAG:

Except when they aren't. Of course, the fact I've never come across any atheist on a "nobody must believe in God" rampage may have something to do with me missing it. Could you give a couple of examples of atheists doing that "nobody must believe in God" rampage thing, please.

Edit: Just remembered two examples: Stalin and Mao Zedong. However, neither of them was "mostly focusing on Christianity".

I guess you forgot the apostle (or is it the 'face') of atheism itself; Dawkins. You don't need to go so far back in time.
"Nobody must (perhaps "should" is the word) believe in God" is putting his embarassingly endless rantings mildly. To the point that a fellow (i guess atheist) scientist even had to rebuke him (Tyson)

Bible

Martin Luther's translation of 1534 was burned by Papal authority in Germany in 1624. Soviet officials stated in 1926, "The section [in libraries] on religion must contain solely anti-religious books," and the Bible was not published again in the USSR until 1956. In 1952 and 1953 Fundamentalists in the US attacked the Revised Standard Version because of changes in terminology. Banned in Ethiopia (1978) as "contradictory to the ongoing revolution." Translations of the Old and New Testament were banned in Turkey (1986). Challenged by an atheist "seeking to turn the tables on the religious right," but retained at the Brooklyn Center, Minn. Independent School District (1992). The challenger stated "the lewd, indecent, and violent contents of that book are hardly suitable for young students." Challenged as "obscene and pornographic," but retained at the Noel Wien Library in Fairbanks, Alaska (1993). Challenged but retained in the West Shore schools near Harrisburg, Pa. (1993) despite objections that it "contains language and stories that are inappropriate for children of any age, including tales of incest and murder. There are more than three hundred examples of 'obscenities' in the book."

Horus:

Bible

Martin Luther's translation of 1534 was burned by Papal authority in Germany in 1624.

I wont be surprised if their is the stamp of the papacy in most of these attempts to ban the bible. All their concordats with various government would have that clandestine motive. Remember also that that was the main reason for the carnage in Europe in the middle ages.

You cant fight againt God and win. You may think you have won, its only an apparition - its not real and permanent, it will fizzle out. Instead, christinaity thrives amidst opposition.

nwando,you are really in a limbo,i wish you can just be daring a little bit and try to see.

Atheism is about belief in oneself in connection with nature,what have,what is and what will,ultimacy,anything that can reasonably be, consciously.What can be easier than that?no, you just want to hear it from the pope,white man tells you every thing,all your view and imagination of life depends on what white man says,both physical and spiritual,dickheads.

Koran is the altered version of the bible,same ball game,but diffrent principles and ways of putting it in the name of change and identity.All religion precides the other,christianity is the altered version of ancient egptian religion.

ricadelide:

I guess you forgot the apostle (or is it the 'face') of atheism itself; Dawkins. You don't need to go so far back in time.
"Nobody must (perhaps "should" is the word) believe in God" is putting his embarassingly endless rantings mildly. To the point that a fellow (i guess atheist) scientist even had to rebuke him (Tyson)

There's a whole lot of difference between "I believe one ought not to believe in Gods" and "nobody must believe in God". Dawkins' views have never, to my knowledge, followed the path of the latter.

redsun:

nwando,you are really in a limbo,i wish you can just be daring a little bit and try to see.

honey bunch,I've seen the mighty hand of God time and time again and it's been good to me.
I love my state of limbo if that's what atheists call it.

KAG:

It's fascinating?

Maybe some heretical Christians have told them Christ does, and since Christians are meant to be emulating Christ - well you do the maths.

I don't think anyone that isn't already living will be able to read your post.


Nietzsche ist tot.

Why not? Everyone needs a hobby, don't they? Besides, some people enjoy masochism. Don't take that away from them, please.

FWIW, an atheist having an epileptic fit would probably not be trying to prove "nothing". Just saying.

Will you listento the nihilists? Nietzsche's The Will to Power and Well's Mind at the end of its Tether should make an appearance as quoted texts. And if you're especially good, someone may pull out "Ecclesiastis" before the Kool-aid and the cookies are handed out.

You're kidding, right?

You mean on a cosmic scale?

What I like about you is how you clearly know next to nothing about atheists, but, with great hubris, be all hectorial about what atheists should do and shouldn't do. You wouldn't, by some chance, happen to be a dominionist, would you?

ROFL.
enjoy yourself then.
It seems this is what turns you on.
We shouldn't deny you the essence of your living.

Not only we should have a Worldwide Ban On Bibles but also a  Worldwide Ban On Christians 

Or else we'll cut off your necks and take your wives as booties if you don't convert to Christianity.

Typical,blackman's idea of blessing,a job,a house,a wfe and children,that is your birth right,it is something you must do if you chose to and if you are alife,but  for the same fundamental stupidity,everybody in africa suppose to live a normal life.Iwish you know the fight one get into everyday with this oyibos,trying to justify the state of africa,they think we are no-brainers,and form all indications,they are right,how can normal humans live like,filty enviroment,bad roads,chaotic traffic,children hawking with plates on their heads running around half naked dodging mad and druken drivers,police demanding money at road blocks like highway robbers, dirth coloured houses,no electricity,no water.How can people like this justify their humanity?Demon posses,people are the demons and the devils,ie obansanjo and the rest of thieving politicians and decieving ignorant pastors

How nice

Jesus rules forever

@redsun,

redsun:

Atheism is about belief in oneself in connection with nature,what have,what is and what will,ultimacy,anything that can reasonably be, consciously.What can be easier than that?

I can't believe my eyes. What have you really said up there?

redsun:

no, you just want to hear it from the pope,white man tells you every thing,all your view and imagination of life depends on what white man says,both physical and spiritual,dickheads.

Okay, we hear. It so happens that most atheists (at least, those who are often telling others and who are often quoted) are em. . . white men, NO?

Really, let's just say this is all a joke. Seriously, what's anyone's skin colour got to do with one's "view or imagination of life"?

All the same, cheers.

We should have also a Worldwide Ban On Jesus and all pastors.

Hello guys and sorry for the long time off.

@davidylan, nwando and the rest of u believers

, i saw all your posts and really, i am highly dissappointed.
A forum is supposed to be an avenue for learning and sharing of ideas. But here u are treating atheists as if we are some aliens from another planet. Instead of making a reasonable contribution that will favor everyone including the atheists, rather, u resort to condemnation and negligence.
With this kind of attitude towards people like us, do u think that u will ever make heaven(i.e. if it all heaven exists?). God would dare not let u in because he will question u as to why didn't try to save that atheist from nairaland forum. I am not here to fight or to disprove other people's ideas, i am here so that we can reason together in order to find a lasting solution to this problem of religion. i am na atheist toady not because it is fun being an attheist, but because i have discovered many outrageous problems of religion and the concept of God that i can't just sweep under the rug. i discovered that It is far more better to accept life as it really is than to persist in delusion however satisfying and reassuring. Do u think that i don't want to go to heaven? oh! how i wish that a God did exist who loves and cares for my every need. But no matter how much i believe these things, nothing suggests to me that it is nothing more than wishful thinking and childish fantasies

I think that ur mission should be trying to understand why atheists believe what they believe regarding the fact that they once believed in what u believe but now, have changed their mind.

So don't attack me guys, i am not an enemy, i am rather the best friend u will ever have.

Therefore brethrens, if i say anything u think is way out of line , why not try and clerify my thoughts; if i say that God does not exist, backing them up with my own reasons, why not try to prove to me that God exists with your own reasons too?

I think i have made myself perfectly clear.


@KAG

Thanks for posting them, I've to admit to being slightly disappointed as you did promise that they'd be "not the ones you've heard before, these ones are entirely unbelievable to be found in a HOLY BOOK". Those are kind of known.

I don't actually blame u for being disappointed in me because that post was for the xtians or the believers which i thought u were one. so please bear with me. it seems to me that u know more of the bible errors than myself. if u do, why not share some with us.
But on the other hand, even if you can posibly challenge all those bible errors that i stated in my previous post. its obvious to u and everyone who calls himself a xtian that a God that degrades the deformed, condemns that bastard, and prevents people from hearing his word, is not a God that can be trusted.

"The god of the Bible measures up to the level of a petty and vicious tyrant. The god of the bible punishes babies for the sins of their parents (Exodus 20:5, 34:7; Numbers 14:18; 2 Samuel 12:13-19); punishes people by causing them to become cannibals and eat their children (2 Kings 6:24-33, Lamentations 4:10-11); gives people bad laws, even requiring the sacrifice of their firstborn babies, so that they can be filled with horror and know that god is their lord (Ezekiel 20:25-26); causes people to believe lies so that he can send them to hell (2 Thessalonians 2:11), and many other atrocities, far too many to list here. It would not be hard to measure up to, and exceed, that level of moral purity. Atheists surpass it every day."
Doug Krueger

Ascony:

its obvious to u and everyone who calls himself a xtian that a God that degrades the deformed, condemns that bastard, and prevents people from hearing his word, is not a God that can be trusted.

hmmm brother Ascony, which God are you talking about here? Where did the Christian God condemn a bastard, degrade the deformed and deliberately prevented you from hearing the same word that is given free of charge to any who would accept?

The Son of Lie
The Face of the Liar and Non-Existent Jesus Christ

The Hinduism, the Islamism, the Judaism, the Buddhism, and the Christianity, all of them divide the eartlhy human beings. THEREFORE FREE YOURSELVES FROM THESE THINGS!!!

Any way do not say it is impossible, i am only sure thst the TRUTH cannot be killed.
Shallom

Pilgrim,you got it all wrong,what i believe in and do comes from within based on personal experience,encounter and observation with nature and humanity.The puzzle is simple if you can go  a little bit back in history, then you can get an insight and answer to this rat race of religion and politics.I use to be a christian but i just don't need it any more,i am free from the dogmas and fear of imaginary heaven and hell, that are both here,irresponsibilities,blaming the ignorance of your ancestors in the name of gerational curse for your 21st ignorance,in the real sense our ancestors  were even better than we are today,they lived according to how they see the world and their time,living of the land in harmony with nature,clean and descent without pollutions and diseases that have plague the world today in the name of invention and science,which we are not still part of as a peolpe.At the time the english were  telling our ancestors they were salvages,they were busy beheading and impaling in the tower of london and all over europe,even king james was a part and parcel of it.I don't detest people's beliefs,but don't impose in on nobody especially children,just be a descent parent and leave them to chart their own world,children are carbon copies of their parents and society at large,it does not take divine  power to bring them up,humans are divine if they are sincere to themselves,our conscience is our ultimate judge.