manny4life:

Alj-harem,

You miss the whole point, what has revenue generation got to do with contribution to economy?   Although I don acknowledge that IGR is directly related to economic fiscal policies such as taxes etc, but that does not answer the question of what contributes to the economy. Rather than arguing on false rumors, my advice is to take a look at

1. What contributes to the growth and development of Nigerian economy (or GDP)?

2. What are their components and sub-components and how do they measure up across regions?

A lot of you guys call oil, oil contributes about 14% to our economy (third), Retail trade contributes about 19% to our economy (second), while Agriculture contributes about 43% (First) to our economy. Having seen that about 73% of our economy comes from these, I was expecting someone to explain further how these components attribute to each region and their contribution.

This is one of the reasons why I like to stay away from topics like this because it's hard explaining certain things for some folks

Precisely

IGR generated and used by individual states has nothing to do with the Nigerian economy as states do not contribute their IGR to the national coffers
In terms of national IGR (with the exception of oil) Igbos are on top because we are, more than others, involved in importation for which custom duties are the second generator of income after oil
Some debunkers on reliance on IGR:

1. Some governors dont declare all they get as IGR
2. Some Nigerians who can afford to pay taxes often manipulate the system because they are self employed and can afford to hide around without having their tax money deducted from an organized employer
3. Some state revenue officials have duplicate receipts that they issue to tax payers and so pocket any tax money receipted with such fake receipts. This affects the true IGR declared by such states
I can go on and on to debunk the myth of IGR as it affects Nigeria--------a thoroughly corrupt country.

bilaya:

This topic has finally confirmed alh harem as a bigot and Igbo hater.Useless swine

shut it, you did not see topic as "what does the north contribute to nigeria" or "what does the yorubas contribute to nigeria"

double standards

Its useless responding to these kinds of threads. What about - we produce nothing, can we then leave? Any Nigerian anywhere that is still sweating, complaining, or crying about Igbo this and that is a fool, you know why? Igbos left this nation with real, substantiated, and documented grievance only to be pulled back in after a 3 year bloody war and you are here asking them what they produce or not produce, why they protest or not protest. I bet you guys would have been happy if we were begging for food with dirty bowls. Why not ask how we survived with 20 pounds after the war, why now ask how we were able to overtake many Nigerians that launched war of genocide in a space of ten years? why not ask how we still live in homes made with bricks and irons? Go and look at after-war pictures and tell me how houses were left standing after your massacres.

How many of you and your families volunteered to go to East to help them erect a pole? Do you think we survived the war with any company left standing? Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves for even comparing us with you. You guys should be on the moon by now or didn't I hear Gowon and his association of ethnic cleansers tell Nigeria that their problem was Ojukwu? After we lost what have you done for yourselves and the nation. Is Nigeria not the scum of the earth now?

If you want to ask why not ask why we are still foot-dragging. You won and I lost, fine. I'm not mad at you all I'm saying is go home and enjoy your victory and when you're done can you freaking lead this nation out of the woods or at least let me go and have my own country! Stop looking at me when anything goes wrong or even ask me what I contribute because you are the one that destroyed my home, my companies, my hospitals, my loved ones with your 20 pounds, Russian MIGs, Brits weapons, Arab mercenaries etc.

Let me put it this way, Any section of this country outside of the old eastern Nigeria that is still punching below Igboland in terms of education and poverty after what was done to Igbos should go and appease the gods.

On a final note, please why don't you do us a favor and remove this "unproductive" Igbos so you can have your paradise nation. Dont give excuses just do it.

@those you you saying that igbos are being deported from kano, you are really fools? Do you think the reasonable pple and home owners there are happy?i have been to all the zones, west, North. etc. I know how the  a landlord from muslim part of Kaduna was lamenting of how the igbos were avoiding hiw own part of town because or religious disturbances, as a result he could not fing tenants for his property. If you think they are jubilating, then you must be a fool.

One day all these 'll end. I take consolation in the victory that lies ahead thats why i'm not worried by the present. I wish every region luck, happiness and wealth. We've shed enough blood for our cause and there is no going back.

Ask them if they are aware that their so called italian shoes and shirt are probably manufactured in aba

Go to NAHCO AND APAPA, AND SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE SHOES AND CLOTHED MANUFACTURED AT ABA ARE BEING EXPORTED

FOR UNA INFORMATION, IT IS MICRO ENTERPIESES THAT DRIVES THE ECONONY

AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY

THE LIKES OF DANGOTE ARE ROLLING IN TRILLIONS WHILE HIS REGION ARE ALL DIRT POOR.

tochimas:

Ask them if they are aware that their so called italian shoes and shirt are probably manufactured in aba

Go to NAHCO AND APAPA, AND SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE SHOES AND CLOTHED MANUFACTURED AT ABA ARE BEING EXPORTED

FOR UNA INFORMATION, IT IS MICRO ENTERPIESES THAT DRIVES THE ECONONY

AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY

THE LIKES OF DANGOTE ARE ROLLING IN TRILLIONS WHILE HIS REGION ARE ALL DIRT POOR.

Thanks. What Igbos lack is the publicity and marketing needed to survive in Nigeria. We need branding in those areas.
Indeed, Igbo-produced Nollywood movies and Aba made shoes taken out of Nigeria to other African countries alone surpass what income some Yoruba states (Ekiti Osun) can ever contribute to Nigeria Just visit any African country and see how Nollywood has projected Nigeria.

Yorubas know the art of marketing, like making all sorts of false claims. Before now many did not know that most newspapers and banks in Nigeria are not owned/managed by Yoruba. But these are the things they often claim just because those ventures are located in Lagos.

I am from Anambra, I can authoritatively tell that many family that are farmers has produced not less that 5 graduates each from palm oil proceed alone,till now, we don't patronize imported rice, we produce our own rice which is much better than those Indonesia rice that dangote flood the market with.

manny4life:

Alj-harem,

You miss the whole point, what has revenue generation got to do with contribution to economy?   Although I don acknowledge that IGR is directly related to economic fiscal policies such as taxes etc, but that does not answer the question of what contributes to the economy. Rather than arguing on false rumors, my advice is to take a look at

1. What contributes to the growth and development of Nigerian economy (or GDP)?

2. What are their components and sub-components and how do they measure up across regions?

A lot of you guys call oil, oil contributes about 14% to our economy (third), Retail trade contributes about 19% to our economy (second), while Agriculture contributes about 43% (First) to our economy. Having seen that about 73% of our economy comes from these, I was expecting someone to explain further how these components attribute to each region and their contribution.

This is one of the reasons why I like to stay away from topics like this because it's hard explaining certain things for some folks

1. Again SW contributes more GDP than SE minus lagos in terms of GDP according to you

Rank    State                     GDP (PPP$)
1 Lagos State           33,679,258,023
2 Rivers State          21,073,410,422
3 Delta State          16,749,250,544
4 Oyo State                  16,121,670,484
5 Imo State                14,212,637,486
6 Kano State          12,393,103,864
7 Edo State         11,888,446,884
8 Akwa Ibom State 11,179,887,963
9 Ogun State        10,470,415,017
10 Kaduna State        10,334,763,785
11 Cross River State 9,292,059,207
12 Abia State        8,687,442,705
13 Ondo State       8,414,302,623
14 Osun State        7,280,597,521
15 Benue State        6,864,209,262
16 Anambra State       6,764,219,562
17 Katsina State       6,022,655,197
18 Niger State       6,002,007,080
19 Borno State      5,175,165,142
20 Plateau State      5,154,059,937
21 Sokoto State     4,818,615,261
22 Bauchi State    4,713,858,180
23 Kogi State    4,642,794,262
24 Adamawa State 4,582,045,246
25 Enugu State    4,396,590,769
26 Bayelsa State    4,337,065,923
27 Zamfara State      4,123,829,498
28 Kwara State      3,841,827,534
29 Taraba State      3,397,790,217
30 Kebbi State     3,290,847,166
31 Nassarawa State 3,022,828,885
32 Jigawa State      2,988,014,405
33 Ekiti State     2,848,372,512
34 Ebonyi State    2,732,472,739
35 Gombe State    2,500,467,306
36 Yobe State      2,011,499,081
-       FCT                   5,010,968,012


Now the zonal contribution in GDP terms according to you

[size=14pt]South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars[/size]




WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT

I would rather live in a nation with heart and soul and be poor than live in a brutal country that feeds on our blood and the blood of others. I wish Nigeria would define their problem and have it solved, but no. Today they shout our problem is OBJ and GEJ, tomorrow its IBB and BUHARI, the next day its BOKO HARAM and Arewa, another day its IGBO/SS OR YORUBA, ask them again and they will tell you its subsidy. Lets define it and have it solved so we can face normal problems other nations face. If Igbo is the problem like it always is cut it loose bro, if you think its Boko Haram then lets cut it loose also. Moving form pillar to post is pure nonsense. If you say we have nothing and we dont produce anything then why do you still let me suck up all your energy? How about cutting me loose for a quick ans.

South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars

even the igbo outside igbo land do magic!!

thanks for the evidence indeed!!

those evidence could clearly refering to mallam that sell suya or amijir etc

tochimas:

I am from Anambra, I can authoritatively tell that many family that are farmers has produced not less that 5 graduates each from palm oil proceed alone,till now, we don't patronize imported rice, we produce our own rice which is much better than those Indonesia rice that dangote flood the market with.

Tell them nwanne.
ALL THE STATES in the south East contribute something meaningful to Nigeria. They already know that too well- just wanna argue with anyone that gives them attention.

alj harem, we are poor, hungry, uncivilized, and uneducated, fine. Can I leave with my troubles so that the load will be less heavy on you?

Sam_Ikenna:

alj harem, we are poor, hungry, uncivilized, and uneducated, fine. Can I leave with my troubles so that the load will be less heavy for you?

[size=14pt]Nope I am not attacking Igbo, I am telling those iddeeeiots like Nchara, Beaf and co that since they call others parasites the here is the mirror for them to see.

I acknowledge the contribution of Igbos to the nation and I have always I mean always stated my respect for Igbos, but coming here calling hausas and yorubas parasites when they contribute the largest apart from the south south is annoying.

these are people that have not felt the effect of oil but chose to work hard to contribute on the same level on something that is free (oil).

I would not allow NL bigots to lie and rubbish this good hardworking people nwannem[/size]

Wislet:

Tell them nwanne.
ALL THE STATES in the south East contribute something meaningful to Nigeria. They already know that too well- just wanna argue with anyone that gives them attention.

why not shut up if you do not know what the discussion is about, stu,pid reasoning

@alharem.  Can you tell me how many easterners are those south west and north contributing the GDP.  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONTRIBUTION TO NIGERIA. ASK FASHOLA HOW MUCH HE HAS GOT AS TAX FROM THOSE COMPANIES MENTIONED ABOVE EVERY YEAR AND ALSO YOUR GOVERNOR, YOU CAN COME AND TELL US. IT ONLY THOSE THAT ARE USEFUL TO THE ECONOMY THAT PAY TAXES. ASK FEDERAL GOVT HOW MUCH THEY HAVE COLLECTED AS DUTIES IN THE VARIOUS PORT IN SOUTHWEST.

Sam_Ikenna:

alj harem, we are poor, hungry, uncivilized, and uneducated, fine. Can I leave with my troubles so that the load will be less heavy on you?

that's what i don't understand, their must be something they see in us we don't no about  

ikeyman00:

even the igbo outside igbo land do magic!!

thanks for the evidence indeed!!

those evidence could clearly refering to mallam that sell suya or amijir etc

LOL them beg you to come to their region?

if you could make money and the east is that rich why are you in UK ? why are others in abuja, lagos kano etc

No one begged anyone to develop their region. In fact they have always made it clear to leave their regions so shut it

NO ONE WOULD RUBBISH THE TRUE HARD WORKING NIGERIAN by calling them parasites, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE

alj harem:


1. Again SW contributes more GDP than SE minus lagos in terms of GDP according to you

Rank    State                     GDP (PPP$)
1 Lagos State           33,679,258,023
2 Rivers State          21,073,410,422
3 Delta State          16,749,250,544
4 Oyo State                  16,121,670,484
5 Imo State                14,212,637,486
6 Kano State          12,393,103,864
7 Edo State         11,888,446,884
8 Akwa Ibom State 11,179,887,963
9 Ogun State        10,470,415,017
10 Kaduna State        10,334,763,785
11 Cross River State 9,292,059,207
12 Abia State        8,687,442,705
13 Ondo State       8,414,302,623
14 Osun State        7,280,597,521
15 Benue State        6,864,209,262
16 Anambra State       6,764,219,562
17 Katsina State       6,022,655,197
18 Niger State       6,002,007,080
19 Borno State      5,175,165,142
20 Plateau State      5,154,059,937
21 Sokoto State     4,818,615,261
22 Bauchi State    4,713,858,180
23 Kogi State    4,642,794,262
24 Adamawa State 4,582,045,246
25 Enugu State    4,396,590,769
26 Bayelsa State    4,337,065,923
27 Zamfara State      4,123,829,498
28 Kwara State      3,841,827,534
29 Taraba State      3,397,790,217
30 Kebbi State     3,290,847,166
31 Nassarawa State 3,022,828,885
32 Jigawa State      2,988,014,405
33 Ekiti State     2,848,372,512
34 Ebonyi State    2,732,472,739
35 Gombe State    2,500,467,306
36 Yobe State      2,011,499,081
-       FCT                   5,010,968,012


Now the zonal contribution in GDP terms according to you

[size=14pt]South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars[/size]




WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT

IMO state is something else. Wonderful people. Even though it doesn't have industries like some states, it surely is something!.

Nope I am not attacking Igbo, I am telling those iddeeeiots like Nchara, Beaf and co that since they call others parasites the here is the mirror for them to see.

I acknowledge the contribution of Igbos to the nation and I have always I mean always stated my respect for Igbos, but coming here calling hausas and yorubas parasites [size=28pt]when they contribute the largest [/size] apart from the south south is annoying.

yall see the wahala with this bigot


this man is hard to deal with

wonderful northern; vain people

South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars

even the igbo outside igbo land do magic!!

thanks for the evidence indeed!!

those evidence could clearly refering to mallam that sell suya or amijir etc

alj harem:

why not shut up if you do not know what the discussion is about, stu,pid reasoning

know something? You are a KID. You're certainly not on a sane level with your fighting to be relevant. Grow up boy.

Imo state is pleasure town, more like tourist and they have oil there. Go to onitsha and see all the housing development there by individual that has nothing to do with anything government and oil money, they never have any housing problem, have never been waiting for govet for any handout. that is igbo for you. begging is taboo for us , be it begging from govt or from individual

South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars

even the igbo outside igbo land do magic!!

thanks for the evidence indeed!!

those evidence could clearly refering to mallam that sell suya or amijir etc


REAL EVIDENCE

Why are many landlord in the boko harem north lamenting the loss of igbos as they coudlnt rent their houses arewa rep tell us??

does that mean the indigines coupled with boko harem sympathiser cant help

can those malam that deal with currency exchange help us out as well

what does that tell u??

.

alj harem:


1. Again SW contributes more GDP than SE minus lagos in terms of GDP according to you

Rank    State                     GDP (PPP$)
1 Lagos State           33,679,258,023
2 Rivers State          21,073,410,422
3 Delta State          16,749,250,544
4 Oyo State                  16,121,670,484
5 Imo State                14,212,637,486
6 Kano State          12,393,103,864
7 Edo State         11,888,446,884
8 Akwa Ibom State 11,179,887,963
9 Ogun State        10,470,415,017
10 Kaduna State        10,334,763,785
11 Cross River State 9,292,059,207
12 Abia State        8,687,442,705
13 Ondo State       8,414,302,623
14 Osun State        7,280,597,521
15 Benue State        6,864,209,262
16 Anambra State       6,764,219,562
17 Katsina State       6,022,655,197
18 Niger State       6,002,007,080
19 Borno State      5,175,165,142
20 Plateau State      5,154,059,937
21 Sokoto State     4,818,615,261
22 Bauchi State    4,713,858,180
23 Kogi State    4,642,794,262
24 Adamawa State 4,582,045,246
25 Enugu State    4,396,590,769
26 Bayelsa State    4,337,065,923
27 Zamfara State      4,123,829,498
28 Kwara State      3,841,827,534
29 Taraba State      3,397,790,217
30 Kebbi State     3,290,847,166
31 Nassarawa State 3,022,828,885
32 Jigawa State      2,988,014,405
33 Ekiti State     2,848,372,512
34 Ebonyi State    2,732,472,739
35 Gombe State    2,500,467,306
36 Yobe State      2,011,499,081
-       FCT                   5,010,968,012


Now the zonal contribution in GDP terms according to you

[size=14pt]South -south total GDP contribution = 74.52 billion dollars

South-west total GDP contribution miuns lagos = 45.13 billion dollars

North west total GDP = 41.28 billion dollars


South east total gdp = 36.79 billion dollars[/size]




WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT

Wherever you culled up this info from, be it as it may, I am so not arguing over this nor having sleepless night over this. Perhaps your right, I am so done wit this because apparently, you're just not getting it.

ikenna, you people have a problem. they are trying to help your people. and you are showing fake figure . You dont produce nothing  in the east. it is the reason for the militia. If you look at the western niger. Chief Obafemi awolowo made it possible to have what it did.

He introduce cash crop.

Look the east instead of you argue. should tell the world the truth. many people from different countries use the internet and they can help you. stop all the lies.

All the figures are fake figures. They do not generating anything. they are mostly traders.   It is the west and the north that generate most. This is what Boko haram discovered that the east  was telling lies. And they the north want to leave.


You see the north is rich in agriculture but the east is not. The west is rich in agriculture too.

The thing is the east have to look for something to contribute that way creating jobs for the youth.

What happen to bayelsa state is that. Bayelsa state use to be one of  nigeria largest producer of Timber, but we stop exporting timber.   And bayelsa state use to be nigeria largest producer of Ogogoro. But churches destroy Ogogoro business but telling people they cant drink Ogogoro again.  So they need to look for some to do and make the people have job.

instead of Jonathan goodluck sending this militia abroad, he should teach them  commercial fish farming.  he claim he read fishing.

This is how fish farming is.

Time to go.

Nothing Nothing Nothing especially the SE but we nigerians can never let them go.
WE like their parasitic nature but we can't stop complaning about them.
They bring 419, drug, ritual killing, prostitution yet we will kill to have them with us in "One Nigeria"
They have no natural resources nor human resources yet their region is more rich par capita in Nigeria.
No oyel yet some part of SE are included in Niger delta(Oyel producing area) of Nigeria
least i forget they are criminals, fake good producers, soil the good name of our dear country abroad but we must stick with in one nigeria.

http://thejuristlaws..com/2012/01/nddc-begins-work-on-mega-projects.html

The Niger Delta Development Commission has begun work on  the second  batch of the 29 mega projects sited across the region.
Two of the projects are in Abia  State, eight in Akwa Ibom, two in Bayelsa, one in Cross River and seven  in Delta State. Edo State has one, Imo and Rivers have four each  .
Speaking at a meeting between officials of the commission and the projects contractors and consultants, the NDDC Managing Director, Dr Christain Oboh said the commission has put all machinery in motion to ensure the effective implementation of the projects.
Dr Oboh, who was represented by the Executive Director, Projects, Engr Edikan Eshett, warned the contractors against indulging in sharp practices that will impede the successful execution of the projects.
“Where contractors choose to circumvent laid down procedures and execute their projects below expectations, they shall be demolished at their own expense” Oboh warned.
The NDDC boss frowned at incidents of variation, warning that where requests for variation are not justified such projects shall be determined, re-advertised and re-awarded to serious contractors.
He implored consultants and resident supervisors to ensure that their staff were not only qualified but always around to monitor progress of work by contractors.
“Where consultants choose to send inexperienced or non engineers to supervise engineering projects, such contracts shall be terminated without notice, same fate applies to consultants in other fields” Oboh further warned.
Also speaking, the Director, Projects Monitoring and Supervision, Arch Alex Okenwa stated that for smooth implementation of projects, contractors must work with the Directorate of Community and Rural Development particularly in areas of site handover and takeover to avoid friction with benefitting communities.
Courtesy, The Nation,

musiwa,,. did you hear yourself? Did Igbo tell you they need your help? Man! Have you finished helping the poor that statistics shows is less in Igboland? You want me to believe you really love so much to help me? If you wanted to help me you should have left me as a Biafran. You dont have to kill 3 million of my people to communicate your love to me so shove it.

You want Odua and I want Biafra or any other name I find ok. We can help ourselves in that area.

Sam_Ikenna:

alj harem thanks for your love and respect for Igbos but may I ask you - are you listening? Did you read what Igbos went through in the hands of their fellow country men? If the ans is yes then don't you think Igbos must be fools to really trust this nation with their future. Personally I have taken enough of scapegoating in this nation so it will be a herculean task to convince me at this point that Nigeria is worth Igbos being part of it. We lost a lot and for me to always read and feel the bigotry that goes in both directions and not want out is a lie. Whether Igbo brings anything to the table is immaterial at this point, and for those that "bring their all to the table" I say this to them - save it for yourselves 'cause you need it.

Today we live in a world of rapid technological development and I don't want to be here when a "sicko" unleashes a dirty gas he made in his 12-by-12 lab room because he loves or hates me. We all can do better by ourselves. I used to give regionalism a thought but now Nigeria can shove that too. You don't know what I do and I don't know yours therefore, it would be better we all keep our sanity or insanity to our respective republics.

So alj harem my brother, you now see why its better to part ways now than waste more time. If we waste more time we may smell that lethal gas, if FG cant find people exploding noisy bombs do you think they would be successful locating the invincible? My brother many engineering/physics wizards are tired but still sane, at some point they might lose their sanity.

Again I say this, lets stop beating on each other. Let us rather use the energy we dispense in beating ourselves for solutions/disintegration before we all get infected with insanity.

I agree, there is no point on being on each others neck each time of the day

I hope you people can tell GEJ to do the split