musKeeto:
What alternative stories? I do not believe in myths.. So you agree that the 'stories' in your SCRIPTure do not/can never stand the test of reason? Man in a whale's belle, man walking on water, hand writing on a wall during a feast?

davidylan:

but you believe in evolution no? Or are you one of the cowards who takes the "i dont believe anything" route?

musKeeto:
How does 'I don't believe in myths' make one a coward? One who believes a 'monster' lives in his cupboard at night and thus sleeps restlessly, or one who isn't bothered at all, whom would you call a coward?

musKeeto: Creation: I believe my dad made my mom pregnant, and thanks to Doctors, I was delivered.. so many players.... what's my business with how my great great great great grand fathers were created? How would that knowledge impact my life?

mrmayor:
@davidlan, You maybe right by calling atheist cowards in real life but same can be said of believers who are turning away from the faith of the families they are born into.Back in the day when the 700 Club use to be a staple in my house, I watch many stories of Muslims who committed Apostasy, turning away from the Islamic faith practised by the family they were born into and converting to Christianity but could not express their new faith till in most cases they left the Islamic communities they lived to the Western world where there is Freedom of Religion.

I have a few questions for you,

1. Assuming that you would only marry someone of the same faith & doctrine with you, what you do if during the course of the marriage your wife departs from the faith to lets say Buddhism,Atheism or worst still become a member of Christ Embassy; would you still remain in that marriage?

2. How would you react or treat a family member, you son or daughter who suddenly disowns your Christian faith for Atheism?

3. Are you sure you would be so bold to die for your faith by preaching Jesus in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Maiduguri?

I asked these questions not to score points but to show that many families have been turned upside down just because one member usually a child decides to change Doctrine and Church.


Seun, where is the bloody preview button?

musKeeto: Origin of man: chicken before egg dilemma... no one knows for sure.. the atheists and the Christians, different faces of the God coin..

davidylan:

Fair enough. you're just another ignorant troll who only exists to attack the beliefs of others. When you have viable alternatives to the creation story then let us know.

davidylan:

Ah no one knows for sure. Good point. If you dont know then how are you so sure that the creation story is bogus? Afterall you have no viable alternative no?

logicboy:


Creationism is bogus because

1) Man did not just appear, we evolved

2) Man was not created 6,000 years ago. Many fossils are older than that.

davidylan:

Ah no one knows for sure. Good point. If you dont know then how are you so sure that the creation story is bogus? Afterall you have no viable alternative no?

musKeeto:
Lol, see who's calling who a troll. Have I attacked any of your beliefs? You said you believe all things within reason, and I pointed to you the fact that most of what you believe in won't stand the test of reason, logic or any scientific method. Everything you do not understand, you leave to faith.. or maybe God doesn't want you to know..
You wonder why your God was angry with men for eating from the tree of knowledge (GARDEN OF EDEN)? Cos knowledge brings about freedom, people begin to question, and God begins to lose that which once made him look awesome..

davidylan:

and why is that a problem? I havent asked you to share that belief have i?

davidylan:

... within reason.

Actually your quote applies to you as well. Thou believest all the foolish things atheists with an agenda sell to you. They told you that you appeared by chance, a statistical impossibility, and you believe them?

davidylan:

1. Before we started "evolving" something must have appeared first right? Explain

2. Even the book of genesis supports the idea that the earth is more than 6000 yrs old

Next?

logicboy:



Epic fail

1) Your bible claims that man was created in our present form which is a lie. If you are going with an agnostic creator, there is no evidence for him

2) Adam to moses = 2000 year. moses to present day = about 4000 years.


Davidylan, you've been pwned

davidylan:

another idiotic nuisance.

1. I asked a clear question (and i'm sure you can read) - Before we started "evolving" something must have appeared first right? Explain. why have you ignored that?

2. You shld ask me to explain to you why genesis is clear that the earth itself is way more than 6000 yrs old.

lagerwhenindoubt: Unbelievable spectacle when Religion Vs. Atheism clash after that many posts you realize that either are as dangerous for mankind The problem is not what you choose to believe in but how you live your life and contribute to project earth. OMFG!

logicboy:


1) I answered the question;

a) If you are asking before evolving, then you are accepting the agnostic creator because the biblical creator falsely claims to have created man
b) there is no proof of what came before matter and no proof of your agnostic creator. There has never been proof of a creator.

logicboy:
2) Genesis talks about Adam. End of story

lagerwhenindoubt: Unbelievable spectacle when Religion Vs. Atheism clash after that many posts you realize that either are as dangerous for mankind The problem is not what you choose to believe in but how you live your life and contribute to project earth. OMFG!

musKeeto:
Thank you very much..

davidylan:

and the answer is where?



Epic fail.

logicboy:

Hypocrite, as if you dont get into heated arguments with both atheists and religious people. The fact that you argue with both sides shows that you're even more of a hypocrite.

musKeeto:
Maybe you can post any link that shows 'heated argument'... please.. looking for friends now, aren't you?

musKeeto: Lol, heated argument indeed.. you claimed Israel was in Europe... anyways, no need to derail the thread.. come up with something better.. I mind my business as much as possible, not going round threads trying to force people to drop their beliefs or unbeliefs... The only poster up here whom can accuse me of heated arguments would be JoAgbaje cos he's a crook..

logicboy:
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You are very f00lish to state that atheism and religion are as dangerous as the other.

You say the problem is not what you choose to believe. How about we all choose to believe that your death will give me 72 virgins? You like that?

lagerwhenindoubt:

A very good example right there - how has your belief contributed to your speech and reasoning presented here? you have not contributed to this discussion in a positive way who cares WTF anyone believes when the result is evident in your behavior with your fellow-man? I thought Atheism was meant to expose intellect thus improve your way of life - you still have a looooooong way to go

musKeeto: Sorry, I won't supply your drugs tonight, find some other board to troll.. bye bye

logicboy:


??

You made 2 wrong statements which I corrected and yet, you hypocritically chastise me for reasoning?


Atheism is not meant to improve your life. Atheism is simply a disbelief in an god