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Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Dtruthspeaker: 7:27am On Sep 30, 2021 |
Slaves of a Master called Gather-Brushing (GB) do not have Freedom nor a right to think and speak The Truths in their souls. So naturally they are as silent and agreeable as mannequins in a container. |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Sep 30, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: You're surely using your heads but it's just a pity that you're all scattered spiritually speaking due to contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines {Luke 11:23} no agreement on teaching! 2Timothy 3:3 But those you're criticizing are just like ONE big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} all having the same line of thought with their King (Jesus Christ) and their God (JEHOVAH) John 17:22 |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 2:41pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: I have always said no one can obey God's laws without the help of the Holy Spirit I don't care how powerful you are or how powerful your will is Without holy spirit living in your heart you can never obey or be able to obey God's laws God bless you Let not argue about this If we can't be peaceful together we need to not argue Peace bye |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:51pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Spiritual king is higher than physical king hope you know that Only spiritual king is one who you worship so you are not in line with the scriptures because you refuse to worship Jesus |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:57pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
I have always said no one can obey God's laws without the help of the Holy Spirit I don't care how powerful you are or how powerful your will is Without holy spirit living in your heart you can never obey or be able to obey God's laws |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:01pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Those who preach laws of God their life's is filled with hate and sin because they fight to do God's will and fail So from the way they talk you should know they don't have the holy spirit of God Because they fail to acknowledge only God can help them to stop sin and it desire Always look to Jesus and remember he is the one who can help you so that sin shall not have dominion over you |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: We are OBEYING him (NOT WORSHIP) since he condemned those WORSHIPING yet they refused to OBEY him! Mark 7:7 You people are teaching the commands of men as doctrines that's why your place of worship is crowded by faithless miscreants {Matthew 7:13-14} remember you always claim people are many in your Churches but you can't vouch for them because you don't know their faith. Unlike me who can die for my fellow JWs {John 13:34-35} because i know they have the same line of thought with our King (Jesus Christ) and our God (JEHOVAH) John 17:22 |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: You have your BRETHREN Dtruthspeaker with you now, he believes in your TRINITY but holds tight to the authority of the law. So between the both of you who is right now? |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:16pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Will you bow to Jesus and bend your knees to Jesus |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Go and settle the case between you and your BRETHREN (Dtruthspeaker) before coming to me! Matthew 7:1-5 |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:21pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: He is always angry and you know that I only work with people who have calm attitude only those who develop patience and respect I work with I know why you don't want to answer that question because you hate Jesus |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:24pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The laws of God can only be obeyed by those who have the holy spirit God said I will then put my laws in their hearts and they will be my people.... That then is only when they will obey God laws He thinks you can obey God with your strength but he does not know God is the one who gives power to do anything We don't need Jesus to die if we can obey God's law with our personal strength |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:No wahala my case with my own Jesus is special, just try and settle with your brother in da Lord! |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:52pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I told you there are levels of faith When you become mature you will discover only God who actually controls everything |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: So in a nutshell your level pass Dtruthspeaker own shey? I'll wait for his response to this!
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Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Nancy2020(f): 8:14pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Ok but let me ask you do Almighty God know those who will go to heaven or does he know those whose names are written in the book of life before they were born? |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Ask yourself who decides who goes to heaven if it man decision or God decision Then you can know who is higher in the faith God already said he knows the end from the beginning yet some people are angry with this simple truth God said before the foundation of the world I know those that belong to me Yet people won't read it they will focus on their own strengths because they actually want to be their own God A mature child of God won't abuse and get angry like him so who's higher in the faith |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:41pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker is your brother in da Lord so i'm less concerned about what you people do to each other after all i never call you to say anything about my own brothers! You have another case to settle: pakirisuitesphc: Bishopkingsley: |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Dtruthspeaker: 1:06am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Nancy2020: First, when you are born, your name is in the Book of Life. Judgement is what Deletes (Strikes Out) your name from the Book of Life. Secondly, "Does God know who will enter His Kingdom?" My Answers 1) Those He Already Sees Walking in the Paths of Life. A Person going to Lagos from Onitsha using Asaba-Benin-Ore-Lagos Road is reasonable foreseeable to get there than a person using Onitsha-Owerri-Aba-Ikot-ikpene Road. 2) A Just Judge does not Judge a Matter before He hears it Blessings or Curses, Promotion and Expulsion /Sackings; Praise and Dis-Honour/Disgrace DO NOT COME FROM FORE-SIGHT. They all come from Just, Direct and UNFORESEEN Measurement of Person or a Matter. |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Dtruthspeaker: 1:16am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Just to pass my comment on this! Has God not already given us the power, which gives us the Strengt? I say He has already which is why He clearly and emphatetically said "With ALL thy heart and and with ALL thy soul and ALL THY STRENGTH! If wicked men do not send their servants to do work without tools (Strength) is it Good Good God? |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Dtruthspeaker: 1:28am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Have you considered that "I know the end from the beginning" is WARNING saying "You Stupid Fools, do you think because I am Silent I do not know? Or can not know? Do you imagine you can Receive The Lord as you have deceived yourselves and other men?(especially this as Ananias and Saphira and many other foolish people thought and still think today) Bishopkingsley: Can anyone claim OWNERSHIP of iPhone and Toyota over Steve Jobs and Mr.Toyoda? Are you not here hearing foolish iPhones and Corrollas thinking that they own themselves? Bishopkingsley: Whom a father loveth, he correcteth! And corrections are usually unpleasant. And corrections are for children whilst Anger and Judgement is for Adults. |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:55am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: As long as you display anger and abusive language we have nothing in common God bless you richly I love you bye |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Nancy2020(f): 8:20am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:I strongly believe The Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand” (John 10:28–29b). Salvation is God’s work, not ours (Titus 3:5), and it is His power that keeps us. But I will like to know your views to see if what you say is in the Bible or from your own mind. But Kindly show me this place in Bible since you say ....... First, when you are born, your name is in the Book of Life. Judgement is what Deletes (Strikes Out) your name from the Book of Life..... Show me where it is written in the Bible? ROMANS 9 from 9 to 24 this place humbles every human being on earth but I will want to see your pride from this place so, Next read ROMANS 9 from 9 to 24 very carefully Because i will ask you many questions from that verse many times. Now let me ask you again are you the one to decide to make heaven own your own God given power as you said or is it God who will decide to show mercy on you without first using the condition of any good or bad things you have done ? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:51am On Oct 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse I have told you many times just because a person believes in Trinity the father the son the holy spirit doesn't mean that they have the complete knowledge of Christ Peter worked with Jesus face to face and did not know that non Jews can be saved until God forced the revelation to come to him Now that Dtruthspeaker: truly believe that humans have the power to decide to make heaven on their own and that it is not God who decides that for us He believes God don't know those who are his people and that your name can be removed from the book of life He wants to tell God how God should think and act He does not believe that God can make the right decision before the foundation of the world Now he abused me and insult me when the Bible forbids that and says he who does that to his fellow man is in danger of going to hell He is not even keeping this part of the law of God because truly he is not yet converted in his heart the holy spirit gives patience character and self control which he clearly doesn't show in his speech Now in the Bible there is no evil thing you want to do that you can not see somewhere in Bible that will give you small backing to do it, so he used that principle and said he is showing me love by abusing me can you see how he twist the Bible I am the image of God so I know who I am and am a mature man of God who doesn't shift from God's law so I chose to be kind to him to actually bring him to the knowledge of our lord God Jesus Christ by showing him respect and love I rather teach him how to be respectful to people who have more knowledge of God's word than him than to engage with him in an abusing manner 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:11am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Please reserve this STORY for Dtruthspeaker not me! Bishopkingsley: |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:16am On Oct 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You said me and him have case to settle while am showing you we don't because Bible show us how to live life And I only just pointed out what Bible said stop trying to act like me and him are fighting we are not if you truly follow Bible precepts |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:37am On Oct 01, 2021 |
OK, so continue rubbing minds with your brother! Bishopkingsley: |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:42am On Oct 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I only rub minds with people who have respect for others you know that now But Bible said we all came from Adam which even makes you my brother but you don't believe in the Bible because you are ready to fight me for calling you brother |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Well i detests it when an unbeliever call me "brother" Jesus never agreed that unbelievers are his brothers even if they come from the same mother {Matthew 12:46-50} to Jesus all those having contrary beliefs are DEAD spiritually speaking! Matthew 8:22 So please don't ever call me your brother again. You are not my brother, you can't be my brother and you will never be my brother. But you're one of my neighbors though! Luke 10:36 compare to Mark 12:31 |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:07am On Oct 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't know Bible because all the place you cite that is not what those places are saying Now Jesus was showing the different types of brothers and I have shown some to you before Now Jesus also show the Israeli then that they were from Abraham lineage a special set of people so they were all brothers and sisters and that old testament commands that Jesus must first come to them which Paul clearly says Romans 9:4–5 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. 5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Before his message will go to others non Jews Bible shows all human to be from Adam as long as you reject this truth you are rejecting Bible Romans 5:12 ► Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned— |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21am On Oct 01, 2021 |
Jesus detests calling an unbeliever "brother" {Matthew 12:46-50} he prefer calling them neighbour! Mark 12:31 compare to Luke 10:36 So i too detests you calling me "brother" but i'll agree that you're my neighbour! Please spare me the cock and bull story and cite a scripture where Jesus or Paul refer to an unbeliever as "BROTHER" if you can't then keep your stories to yourself or better still for Dtruthspeaker he is your BROTHER! Bishopkingsley: |
Re: ⚫⚫ Once you are Saved then you are saved forever for all Eternity by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:29am On Oct 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't need to show you that because the Bible shows us different kinds of brothers So if you don't believe Bible you won't believe anything else First there are different kinds of brothers so you have failed to acknowledge this truth Your blood brothers and sisters in your family are they the same as your believing brothers and sisters in your Jw organization |
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