Eya,no wonder you lack home training. Okponku!and where is your father so you can ask him too. Don't tell me you are a bastard? How did your mum die? Did you male folks in the house make her life a living hell that she couldn't enjoy all she toiled for. Ask yourself cause i bet you i already know the answer.

warrior101: Lol... All these secret cult women keep decieving innocent people. My mother never reasoned like you till the day she passed on. Okpo like you

bettermike: Oh! I'll be so delighted to see you pump that bullet through your head girl. That'll mean one less feminist polluting our world. Why is what you want wrong? My dear, what is wrong is wrong! And stop throwing the 'dont judge' card in our face. Just as the gay are asking for their rights to put their pins through other men's behinds, which is sooo wrong; that is the same way your opinions are very logically, spiritually, emotionally and socially wrong. Are we not supposed to try to correct the gay too because we are encouraging equality? I will say it again: What is wrong is wrong. Your ideas are so wrong!

i see there's no reasoning with you. cos you keep bringing up irrelevant things. who is polluting the world if you really think about it. you bring up gays.

yes, dont judge, thats how you practise tolerance but there's no attempting to meet me halfway. whats wrong is wrong. zero interest in my valid concerns. unfortunately for you, the world is changing and eventually you have to adapt. resistance is futile. now im gonna say something shocking.

MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL. you are not superior just because you were told you were and i find it hard to believe you watch documentaries. my opinions arent wrong because you say so. remember the golden rule? do unto others as you want to be done unto you. nothing i say will ever get through to you. abeg im going to watch Game of Thrones, winter is coming.

...now this back and forth is getting ridiculous..

Adaeze003:

Lol @ bold. They must always find ways to put em cheap blows. Mtcheew.

You didn't get my point. I was only trying to stress the fact that to some of us, humility is also required from men with that illustration.

And mr, giving a girl a ring is not just some romantic obligation because 'that's how its done in movies'. It is saying that you can live with the perceived faults of the woman! Or is it only guys that have faults? You expect girls to be perfect yet you want them to accept your imperfection? Btw, no one is perfect.

Exactly! That is why women that lack humility should not be surprised that he walks away.
Because he knows it is infact a fault he cannot live with.

Humility is one of those things that really can't be faked. If whoever you end up with is prideful, it's your fault because you chose to accept them that way. You would have seen it in how they relate to others.

Everyone has faults, but there are faults some can live with and others can't.
You wouldn't say yes to someone with the belief that "they will change". You say yes with the conviction that whether they change or not, you can live with their faults for the rest of your life.

Well missy, a loud-mouthed, flame breathing, "fight/disagree with you because you are a man", "Who do you think you are asking/telling me what to do" woman has faults most men just won't stand for in a wife as it projects something very much against what I have told you a man lives on...respect. She would be better off on her own to live as she wishes...or as a lesbian.

Pocket Economist, if you see this: please know that any woman who calls a man "beneath your league" in your hearing will one day call you beneath someone else's league. How people respond and deal with those they don't know, don't need, or have never met says a lot about their character.

The one thing we women often get wrong is we sit down with other women and decide amongst ourselves what men want and need and how they should be treated. There's no difference between that and the "brilliant" scholar from the west who has never set foot in Africa but will be called to all sorts of talk shows and news segments to give his recommendations on how to solve African problems. In threads like these, I think the wise thing for a woman to do is to take other women's histrionics with a grain of salt and read between the lines of what the men are saying. I also think it's a waste of time and effort for any man to try and reason with a certain type of woman unless he is doing it for the sake of entertainment because the 2013 woman will never cede ground. Many men have learned to just look at a woman and let her talk wetin she dey talk until she is sitting somewhere by herself at 55 years old and he goes, "So... you were saying?"

Someone will ask, is marriage the be-all end-all? It is not, but from what I gather, it is very sweet... so yes, I think it is terrible for a woman who was called to be a wife to end up by herself at 55 and the reason for a lot of bitterness on this thread and elsewhere is fear, because she has misinterpreted submission and does not want to be seen as a doormat but yet the woman in her is crying to be a help meet.

Men and women are equal but different. Things hit the fan when one tries to become the other. There is such sweetness in femininity, ladies why don't we just give this humility thing a try for some time and see? Submission does not mean a woman is less intelligent, less human, less anything. Again Delilah got what several armies failed to get and Bathsheba secured a kingdom for her son not by shouting all over the place but by bowing and HUMBLY saying "My king, you promised."

Stop by YouTube when you get time and see that the US which peddled this feminism nonsense has had several conferences, documentaries, etc seeking to know why so many of its women are unmarried. It is so much more than ratios. If that phony independence were such a beautiful thing and marriage did not matter, who would care, who would find time to do hour-long shows and movies and so on? If things continue at this rate, many women on this thread will soon be sitting on panels in similar documentaries trying to find complex solutions for something that is very simple.

Ngokafor: ...now this back and forth is getting ridiculous..

I agree, it seems to be becoming a matter of who will have the last word and hurl the most creative insult.

Don't think every woman is like you. Aye e ti ta. Don't decieve the younger generations. Weather feminist or not you will still die. Don't tell me men are the cause of economic problem... You're just a glorified prostitute seeking power. Jezebel

koyes: Eya,no wonder you lack home training. Okponku!and where is your father so you can ask him too. Don't tell me you are a bastard? How did your mum die? Did you male folks in the house make her life a living hell that she couldn't enjoy all she toiled for. Ask yourself cause i bet you i already know the answer.

I think its high time i left this thread to other interesting ones. I've already said all i need to say. To delutioned retards like worrior and co who are still stuck in the past,wake up and realise that your ideal african woman no longer exists. So if truly you've lost hope in african women,there are other options: you can become a transgender, you can become gay or better still, sleep with as many animals as you want. Did i hear you say you already do the last two? Well,even if you don't, you already know that God is still going to punish you for the disgusting things you are doing now. Leave women alone because we would rather remain single till old age than to end up with earth worms like you! I'm out of here!!!

Speak for yourself you disgusting mutant... Nothing african about my reasoning. Its how things are also done in Europe and Asia. Go find out. Bitch

koyes: I think its high time i left this thread to other interesting ones. I've already said all i need to say. To delutioned retards like worrior and co who are still stuck in the past,wake up and realise that your ideal african woman no longer exists. So if truly you've lost hope in african women,there are other options: you can become a transgender, you can become gay or better still, sleep with as many animals as you want. Did i hear you say you already do the last two? Well,even if you don't, you already know that God is still going to punish you for the disgusting things you are doing now. Leave women alone because we would rather remain single till old age than to end up with earth worms like you! I'm out of here!!!

jewel4Hiscrown: Pocket Economist, if you see this: please know that any woman who calls a man "beneath your league" in your hearing will one day call you beneath someone else's league. How people respond and deal with those they don't know, don't need, or have never met says a lot about their character.

The one thing we women often get wrong is we sit down with other women and decide amongst ourselves what men want and need and how they should be treated. There's no difference between that and the "brilliant" scholar from the west who has never set foot in Africa but will be called to all sorts of talk shows and news segments to give his recommendations on how to solve African problems. In threads like these, I think the wise thing for a woman to do is to take other women's histrionics with a grain of salt and read between the lines of what the men are saying. I also think it's a waste of time and effort for any man to try and reason with a certain type of woman unless he is doing it for the sake of entertainment because the 2013 woman will never cede ground. Many men have learned to just look at a woman and let her talk wetin she dey talk until she is sitting somewhere by herself at 55 years old and he goes, "So... you were saying?"

Someone will ask, is marriage the be-all end-all? It is not, but from what I gather, it is very sweet... so yes, I think it is terrible for a woman who was called to be a wife to end up by herself at 55 and the reason for a lot of bitterness on this thread and elsewhere is fear, because she has misinterpreted submission and does not want to be seen as a doormat but yet the woman in her is crying to be a help meet.

Men and women are equal but different. Things hit the fan when one tries to become the other. There is such sweetness in femininity, ladies why don't we just give this humility thing a try for some time and see? Submission does not mean a woman is less intelligent, less human, less anything. Again Delilah got what several armies failed to get and Bathsheba secured a kingdom for her son not by shouting all over the place but by bowing and HUMBLY saying "My king, you promised."

Stop by YouTube when you get time and see that the US which peddled this feminism nonsense has had several conferences, documentaries, etc seeking to know why so many of its women are unmarried. It is so much more than ratios. If that phony independence were such a beautiful thing and marriage did not matter, who would care, who would find time to do hour-long shows and movies and so on? If things continue at this rate, many women on this thread will soon be sitting on panels in similar documentaries trying to find complex solutions for something that is very simple.

Oh my goodness. You are truly a daughter of heaven.

In all 13 pages of this thread, you are the only woman who has been able to GET what I'm trying to communicate here.

Your home and your seed be blessed and may God grant you the man of your dreams,
as it is clear you have prepared yourself to be the woman that will not let him suffer or hurt, nor use your own hands to destroy your home because of stories of what someone else somewhere who isn't your spouse did.

There is such great power in humility that girls today do not understand. Love your example of Delilah.
With humility, the right man would have no issues doing anything for his wife (even washing her underwear sef)...because he can TRUST that he can allow himself do certain things for her without her scheming to use it as a means to usurp his position in the household.

koyes: Eya,no wonder you lack home training. Okponku!and where is your father so you can ask him too. Don't tell me you are a bastard? How did your mum die? Did you male folks in the house make her life a living hell that she couldn't enjoy all she toiled for. Ask yourself cause i bet you i already know the answer.

I no knw say this babe get "bad mouth" like this o!.. And all along I was thinking u were some kind of S.U

na we be devil pikin. lol

i collect the blessings even if it wasnt aimed at me. i just let out a huge sigh. no one is scheming but you hit the nail on the head. no one wants to harm the man they claim to love. i understand what she's saying and i agree with certain aspects. im interested in knowing what your needs are as a man. always. i cant help it, its in my nature as a woman to be nurturing but at the same time be interested in my needs, not dismiss them. i hold marriage in the highest regard and think its sad when over a certain age, anyone, man or woman is single.

are you getting what im trying to communicate? the exact same thing you are saying. cater to our needs and there is nothing we wouldnt do for you. thats what we are saying too. why is it so hard for us to understand each other.
no matter how much i have in my bank account, it feels good when my fiance spends on me. i feel like im treasured. we dont want to be men. we want to be women but you sometimes make us feel like being a woman is a bad thing.


guys, try and cater to the needs of your women and they will treat you like a king.
i have knelt down to serve my fiance food before. we just laughed over it cos i saw my aunt do it once.
yes its sometimes true, you stoop to conquer but we have been stooping for thousands of years.
meet us halfway is what we are asking.

2buff:

Oh my goodness. You are truly a daughter of heaven.

In all 13 pages of this thread, you are the only woman who has been able to GET what I'm trying to communicate here.

Your home and your seed be blessed and may God grant you the man of your dreams,
as it is clear you have prepared yourself to be the woman that will not let him suffer or hurt.

There is such great power in humility that girls today do not understand. Love your example of Delilah.
With humility, the right man would have no issues doing anything for his wife (even washing her underwear sef)...because he can TRUST that he can allow himself do certain things for her without her scheming to use it as a means to usurp his position in the household.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtMUIwOE2ss

"A Woman's Worth"

You could buy me diamonds
You could buy me pearls
Take me on a cruise around the world
Baby you know I'm worth it
Dinner lit by candles
Run my bubble bath
Make love tenderly to last and last
Baby you know I'm worth it

Wanna please wanna keep wanna treat your woman right
Not just dough but to show that you know she is worth your time
You will lose if you chose to refuse to put her first
She will and she can find a man who knows her worth

Mmm
Cause a real man, knows a real woman when he sees her
And a real woman knows a real man ain't afraid to please her
And a real woman knows a real man always comes first
And a real man just can't deny a womans worth

Mm Hmm Mm Hmmm
Mm Hmm Mm Hmmm
Mm Hmm Mm Hmmm
Mm

If you treat me fairly
I'll give you all my goods
Treat you like a real woman should
Baby I know you're worth it
If you never play me
Promise not to bluff
I'll hold you down when shit gets rough
Cause baby I know you're worth it

She walks the mile makes you smile all the while being true
Don't take for granted the passions that she has for you
You will lose if you chose to refuse to put her first
She will and she can find a man who knows her worth

Oh
Cause a real man knows a real woman when he sees her
And a real woman knows a real man ain't afraid to please her
And a real woman knows a real man always comes first
And a real man just can't deny a woman's worth

No need to read between the lines spelled out for you (spelled out for you)
Just hear this song cause you can't go wrong when you value (better value)
A woman's (woman's)
Woman's (woman's)
WORTH!

Cause a real man knows a real woman when he sees her
And a real woman knows a real man ain't afraid to please her
And a real woman knows a real man always comes first
And a real man just can't deny a woman's worth

2buff:

Oh my goodness. You are truly a daughter of heaven.

In all 13 pages of this thread, you are the only woman who has been able to GET what I'm trying to communicate here.

Your home and your seed be blessed and may God grant you the man of your dreams,
as it is clear you have prepared yourself to be the woman that will not let him suffer or hurt, nor use your own hands to destroy your home because of stories of what someone else somewhere who isn't your spouse did.

There is such great power in humility that girls today do not understand. Love your example of Delilah.
With humility, the right man would have no issues doing anything for his wife (even washing her underwear sef)...because he can TRUST that he can allow himself do certain things for her without her scheming to use it as a means to usurp his position in the household.

@TDN's song, As you can see, and as I have said, a lot of songs and media exists already that tell men what's up.
But very few, if any, tell women what's up. And any that do, is often seen as old-school or viciously attacked by the media and given a bad name i.e. sexist, mysogynistic, chauvinistic, etc.

The result is a generation of a particular gender out here in the west that don't know their own part in the dance anymore, because they're not aware of steps/moves they also need to make to have a beautiful dance performance, yet think they are not obligated to learn them, but instead blame the man for the lameness of the dance.

With all the clauses in that song, she does say something that a lot of females listening to will feign ignorance at or just generally block off:
"...and a real woman knows a real man always comes first."

That bit ofcourse only took up about 1% of the song... But thanks for the song, it's nice

TDN: na we be devil pikin. lol

i collect the blessings even if it wasnt aimed at me. i just let out a huge sigh. no one is scheming but you hit the nail on the head. no one wants to harm the man they claim to love. i understand what she's saying and i agree with certain aspects. im interested in knowing what your needs are as a man. always. i cant help it, its in my nature as a woman to be nurturing but at the same time be interested in my needs, not dismiss them. i hold marriage in the highest regard and think its sad when over a certain age, anyone, man or woman is single.

are you getting what im trying to communicate? the exact same thing you are saying. cater to our needs and there is nothing we wouldnt do for you. thats what we are saying too. why is it so hard for us to understand each other.
no matter how much i have in my bank account, it feels good when my fiance spends on me. i feel like im treasured. we dont want to be men. we want to be women but you sometimes make us feel like being a woman is a bad thing.


guys, try and cater to the needs of your women and they will treat you like a king.
i have knelt down to serve my fiance food before. we just laughed over it cos i saw my aunt do it once.
yes its sometimes true, you stoop to conquer but we have been stooping for thousands of years.
meet us halfway is what we are asking.

Then we have nothing further to argue about. We have the same Point of view.
To not get side-tracked, this thread is about humility and how it affects your relationship with your man.
If you already understand it, then that's good.

In fact the kneeling thing you did would have been so cute . I'm sure you know, a lot of girls today will rather call thunder on his head than do something of that nature, no matter how much of her needs he meets everyday. Afterall, "who is he?" lol.

Keep it up. The blessing follow you too and all women that "get it".

2buff: @TDN's song, As you can see, and as I have said, a lot of songs and media exists already that tell men what's up.
But very few, if any, tell women what's up. And any that do, is often viciously attacked by the media and given a bad name.
The result is a generation of a particular gender out here in the west that don't know their own part in the dance, because they're not aware of steps/moves they also need to make to make a beautiful dance performance.

With all the clauses in that song, she does say something that a lot of females listening to will feign ignorance at or just generally block off:
"...and a real woman knows a real man always comes first."

That bit ofcourse only took up about 1% of the song, hence it being easy to miss.
It kinda needs to be sounded a lot louder than that in today's west-centric media.

oh i didnt miss that line. not at all and i hope you didnt miss " And a real woman knows a real man ain't afraid to please her "
its exhausting sha when you have to scream and no one can hear you. hence what you perceive as aggression. we all need to make an effort to fully understand what the opposite sex wants. women are bitter, do you blame them? men are disillusioned as a result. lets put positions aside and actually listen to each other. you want us to do better, start with yourselves. forget about the media, from the day we are born, we are told whats up. how to please you. the media didnt give men a bad name. men did this all on their own. im influenced by what i see around me. its hard to miss.

things will never go back the way they used to be. so what now? i dont know but something has to change. cos all this time you have worn the crown, we had thorns on our heads.something to think about.

2buff:

Then we have nothing further to argue about. We have the same Point of view.
To not get side-tracked, this thread is about humility and how it affects your relationship with your man.
If you already understand it, then that's good.

In fact the kneeling thing you did would have been so cute . I'm sure you know, a lot of girls today will rather call thunder on his head than do that. Afterall, "who is he?" lol.

Keep it up. The blessing follow you too and all women that "get it".

this your prayer is for all women, kissed plenty frogs before i found my prince. so ive used the "who is he" line, countless of times. for so many people like me humility doesnt come naturally. its definitely a virtue for men and women to aspire to. so give Nigerian women a chance. dont give up on them as we havent given up on you yet. this environment can be hostile and aggression can be a defence mechanism. my fiance told me once that before we met he heard how horrible i was, we started dating and i cant tell you how surprised he was that i was capable of a loving relationship. bottom line, all i needed was to feel safe, to trust him. people will always need other people who will bring out the best in them.

was watching a movie last night and a woman said EVERYONE'S BROKEN. THEY JUST NEED SOMEONE LESS BROKEN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
so do you want gold or a diamond in the rough? funny, this life, all you have to do is open your heart and you might find unimaginable happiness in a place you least expect.

jewel4Hiscrown: Pocket Economist, if you see this: please know that any woman who calls a man "beneath your league" in your hearing will one day call you beneath someone else's league. How people respond and deal with those they don't know, don't need, or have never met says a lot about their character.

The one thing we women often get wrong is we sit down with other women and decide amongst ourselves what men want and need and how they should be treated. There's no difference between that and the "brilliant" scholar from the west who has never set foot in Africa but will be called to all sorts of talk shows and news segments to give his recommendations on how to solve African problems. In threads like these, I think the wise thing for a woman to do is to take other women's histrionics with a grain of salt and read between the lines of what the men are saying. I also think it's a waste of time and effort for any man to try and reason with a certain type of woman unless he is doing it for the sake of entertainment because the 2013 woman will never cede ground. Many men have learned to just look at a woman and let her talk wetin she dey talk until she is sitting somewhere by herself at 55 years old and he goes, "So... you were saying?"

Someone will ask, is marriage the be-all end-all? It is not, but from what I gather, it is very sweet... so yes, I think it is terrible for a woman who was called to be a wife to end up by herself at 55 and the reason for a lot of bitterness on this thread and elsewhere is fear, because she has misinterpreted submission and does not want to be seen as a doormat but yet the woman in her is crying to be a help meet.

Men and women are equal but different. Things hit the fan when one tries to become the other. There is such sweetness in femininity, ladies why don't we just give this humility thing a try for some time and see? Submission does not mean a woman is less intelligent, less human, less anything. Again Delilah got what several armies failed to get and Bathsheba secured a kingdom for her son not by shouting all over the place but by bowing and HUMBLY saying "My king, you promised."

Stop by YouTube when you get time and see that the US which peddled this feminism nonsense has had several conferences, documentaries, etc seeking to know why so many of its women are unmarried. It is so much more than ratios. If that phony independence were such a beautiful thing and marriage did not matter, who would care, who would find time to do hour-long shows and movies and so on? If things continue at this rate, many women on this thread will soon be sitting on panels in similar documentaries trying to find complex solutions for something that is very simple.

I admire the level of maturity and experience behind these words. Very true.

2buff:

Oh my goodness. You are truly a daughter of heaven.

In all 13 pages of this thread, you are the only woman who has been able to GET what I'm trying to communicate here.

Your home and your seed be blessed and may God grant you the man of your dreams,
as it is clear you have prepared yourself to be the woman that will not let him suffer or hurt, nor use your own hands to destroy your home because of stories of what someone else somewhere who isn't your spouse did.

There is such great power in humility that girls today do not understand. Love your example of Delilah.
With humility, the right man would have no issues doing anything for his wife (even washing her underwear sef)...because he can TRUST that he can allow himself do certain things for her without her scheming to use it as a means to usurp his position in the household.

AMEN and Amen, thank you 2buff.

TDN:

oh i didnt miss that line. not at all and i hope you didnt miss " And a real woman knows a real man ain't afraid to please her "
its exhausting sha when you have to scream and no one can hear you. hence what you perceive as aggression. we all need to make an effort to fully understand what the opposite sex wants. women are bitter, do you blame them? men are disillusioned as a result. lets put positions aside and actually listen to each other. you want us to do better, start with yourselves. forget about the media, from the day we are born, we are told whats up. how to please you. the media didnt give men a bad name. men did this all on their own. im influenced by what i see around me. its hard to miss.

things will never go back the way they used to be. so what now? i dont know but something has to change. cos all this time you have worn the crown, we had thorns on our heads.something to think about.

I don't think we have to scream at all. I hope I don't seem rude when I say I think we women sometimes subject ourselves to burdens we do not need to bear, such as self-inflicted exhaustion. Bitterness only harms the bitter party. I'm still learning a lot but in my estimation, a bitter woman is not ready to be married and from what the Bible tells me, if she is married, it is one of four tragedies which the earth cannot bear (Proverbs 30:21-23). Why punish ourselves and innocent men for the choice a man made to hurt us in 1922?

I also have a question, regarding your statement "You want us to do better, start with yourselves." Is our role as women determined by how men behave? In other words, if today men refused to do better, would you then stop being who you are called to be as a woman? I must also humbly disagree with your statement that [all] men have a bad name. The only ones who do are the ones who have chosen to answer to that bad name and act accordingly. It is only when a person answers that their name is discovered or assumed. If anybody stands at my door and shouts "Jemima!" even 100 times it doesn't matter and I wont even know they're calling me because my name is not Jemima and anybody who knows me will know it is the person shouting who is misinformed. The best I can do is say "There is no Jemima here." But if I answer, the person will continue to call me Jemima thinking it is my name. Finally, femininity is not a crown of thorns. On the other hand, feminism, which has tried to paint womanhood as the doldrums of anguish and retrogression, is not only a crown of thorns but also a thorn in the side, the eye, the flesh and the foot. The author of The Color Purple is revered in feminist circles and called a champion of women's rights but her own daughter wrote an impassioned article stating how her mother's feminist views tore the entire family apart. Why did her feminism not work in her own home? There are endless examples, TDN.

There are mistakes across the board but the way I see it, the solution is not for us to say "You have to act right before I do" or to ask why nobody is talking about someone else. "The way things used to be" just might be different from "the way things should be," and I dare to wager that the latter is difficult, more than possible.

niyitogun:

I admire the level of maturity and experience behind these words. Very true.

Thank you niyitogun

I left when the party rejuvenated yet again!

Anyways, my simple analysis of the whole matter is that the "broses like warrior et all" want to go back to the age where men earn the money and women take care of the home... and it was a great age with stable marriages.

However, times have changed and the hustle of the present day has made the women start contributing to the family income and so the former division of labour cannot hold hence the need for a new system that has workable practicability.

So for warrior and his likes, its a pretty easy solution...get married to a house-wife and you can be your defination of MAN.




As for the rest of us, please read through the thread and see ways of being the modern man in our present climes...pocket economist and co did a good job.

Last Bullet:
A man that cannot flow with the times would eventually become a dinosaur(extinct).

The party is still on?

As far as warror 101 is not marrying koyes or TDN etc. why all these back and forth?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as it works for them

y-fo:
I left when the party rejuvenated yet again!

Anyways, my simple analysis of the whole matter is that the "broses like warrior et all" want to go back to the age where men earn the money and women take care of the home... and it was a great age with stable marriages.

However, times have changed and the hustle of the present day has made the women start contributing to the family income and so the former division of labour cannot hold hence the need for a new system that has workable practicability.

So for warrior and his likes, its a pretty easy solution...get married to a house-wife and you can be your defination of MAN.




As for the rest of us, please read through the thread and see ways of being the modern man in our present climes...pocket economist and co did a good job.

Last Bullet:
A man that cannot flow with the times would eventually become a dinosaur(extinct).

Yo, speak for yourself please. Well i understand the real meaning of MAN (provider, protector etc) and i, by God's grace, will live up to the task. Absolutely no problem with my wife-to-be working. She can use her earnings at the kitchen or what ever will make her more beautiful to me. I, the Man, will take care of the rest. SO HELP ME GOD. Back to you, you see, thats the problem. MEN HAVE LONG FORGOTTEN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GOOD MAN. I hope it wont have been too late by the time warrior's campaign gets to your hideout.

jewel4Hiscrown:

AMEN and Amen, thank you 2buff.



I don't think we have to scream at all. I hope I don't seem rude when I say I think we women sometimes subject ourselves to burdens we do not need to bear, such as self-inflicted exhaustion. Bitterness only harms the bitter party. I'm still learning a lot but in my estimation, a bitter woman is not ready to be married and from what the Bible tells me, if she is married, it is one of four tragedies which the earth cannot bear (Proverbs 30:21-23). Why punish ourselves and innocent men for the choice a man made to hurt us in 1922?

I also have a question, regarding your statement "You want us to do better, start with yourselves." Is our role as women determined by how men behave? In other words, if today men refused to do better, would you then stop being who you are called to be as a woman? I must also humbly disagree with your statement that [all] men have a bad name. The only ones who do are the ones who have chosen to answer to that bad name and act accordingly. It is only when a person answers that their name is discovered or assumed. If anybody stands at my door and shouts "Jemima!" even 100 times it doesn't matter and I wont even know they're calling me because my name is not Jemima and anybody who knows me will know it is the person shouting who is misinformed. The best I can do is say "There is no Jemima here." But if I answer, the person will continue to call me Jemima thinking it is my name. Finally, femininity is not a crown of thorns. On the other hand, feminism, which has tried to paint womanhood as the doldrums of anguish and retrogression, is not only a crown of thorns but also a thorn in the side, the eye, the flesh and the foot. The author of The Color Purple is revered in feminist circles and called a champion of women's rights but her own daughter wrote an impassioned article stating how her mother's feminist views tore the entire family apart. Why did her feminism not work in her own home? There are endless examples, TDN.

There are mistakes across the board but the way I see it, the solution is not for us to say "You have to act right before I do" or to ask why nobody is talking about someone else. "The way things used to be" just might be different from "the way things should be," and I dare to wager that the latter is difficult, more than possible.

Very well said.

warrior101: Speak for yourself you disgusting mutant... Nothing african about my reasoning. Its how things are also done in Europe and Asia. Go find out. Bitch

That girl disgusts me the more she speaks.

We know a pure undiluted comment when we see one. Stop trying to give a dog a bad name in other to hang it. There was no time in history where women never earned their own money. Don't pretend to know what I want in life, don't try to size me cuz you don't know what I'm planning. Don't think your eyes are more open than me own. Who's stopping women from being successful? You think I grow up in the village? Just don't cause divition everywhere by sending our future wives to the gym and pumping them with male homone, that's eveil. This is what we're against. If I didn't love the sisters I wouldn't have spent much time on this thread teaching them the right part. A word is enought for the wise...

Sending a hug to all the real sisters veiwing... WE LOVE YOU

y-fo:
I left when the party rejuvenated yet again!

Anyways, my simple analysis of the whole matter is that the "broses like warrior et all" want to go back to the age where men earn the money and women take care of the home... and it was a great age with stable marriages.

However, times have changed and the hustle of the present day has made the women start contributing to the family income and so the former division of labour cannot hold hence the need for a new system that has workable practicability.

So for warrior and his likes, its a pretty easy solution...get married to a house-wife and you can be your defination of MAN.




As for the rest of us, please read through the thread and see ways of being the modern man in our present climes...pocket economist and co did a good job.

Last Bullet:
A man that cannot flow with the times would eventually become a dinosaur(extinct).

TDN:

i see there's no reasoning with you. cos you keep bringing up irrelevant things. who is polluting the world if you really think about it. you bring up gays.

yes, dont judge, thats how you practise tolerance but there's no attempting to meet me halfway. whats wrong is wrong. zero interest in my valid concerns. unfortunately for you, the world is changing and eventually you have to adapt. resistance is futile. now im gonna say something shocking.

MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL. you are not superior just because you were told you were and i find it hard to believe you watch documentaries. my opinions arent wrong because you say so. remember the golden rule? do unto others as you want to be done unto you. nothing i say will ever get through to you. abeg im going to watch Game of Thrones, winter is coming.

Halfway you say? Sorry, i dont negotiate with terrorists.

warrior101: We know a pure undiluted comment when we see one. Stop trying to give a dog a bad name in other to hang it. There was no time in history where women never earned their own money. Don't pretend to know what I want in life, don't try to size me cuz you don't know what I'm planning. Don't think your eyes are more open than me own. Who's stopping women from being successful? You think I grow up in the village? Just don't cause divition everywhere by sending our future wives to the gym and pumping them with male homone, that's eveil. This is what we're against. If I didn't love the sisters I wouldn't have spent much time on this thread teaching them the right part. A word is enought for the wise...

Sending a hug to all the real sisters veiwing... WE LOVE YOU

SISTERS VIEWING, WE, REAL MEN, LOVE YOU. It will be in your best interest to do away with the likes of koyes, tdn, safarigirl etc; if you are still nursing any idea of settling down in a blissful marriage in the near future.

The fact that someone who calls himself a man would use the term 'bytch' to describe a lady simply because she has said things he doesn't agree with speaks highly of the kind of training he has.

There is nothing I hate more than that term and the men who use it, if you call a woman a 'bytch' you call all women same. It is this attitude we want a change of, when men refer to ladies as 'bytch' it's sickening. Nigerian men accuse the females of learning bad things from the Western media, my Nigerian men, did your father ever refer to your mother or any woman at all as a 'bytch'? Where did you get that term from? And where did you learn to use it so loosely?

Before you accuse others, evaluate yourself, ask valid questions, am I the kind of man I would wish my sister or cousin to be with? Do I respect the views of all and sundry irrespective of class and gender?

If you can answer these questions and do so with honesty, you can then come back here and blow your trumpets.

Until then warrior, bettermike, njokusboy and all the other dictators-in-waiting shouldn't look forward to happy marriages because I tell you, even the most submissive woman has her breaking point and you will NEVER see it coming

koyes: I think its high time i left this thread to other interesting ones. I've already said all i need to say. To delutioned retards like worrior and co who are still stuck in the past,wake up and realise that your ideal african woman no longer exists. So if truly you've lost hope in african women,there are other options: you can become a transgender, you can become gay or better still, sleep with as many animals as you want. Did i hear you say you already do the last two? Well,even if you don't, you already know that God is still going to punish you for the disgusting things you are doing now. Leave women alone because we would rather remain single till old age than to end up with earth worms like you! I'm out of here!!!

Leave women alone huh? Obviously you have no idea what you want. Wasnt it just now you were trying to hit on pocketeconomist? Your confusion will bring you bad fortunes i promise you. Unless you change your ways. Why are you so scared of submission btw? Have you been gangraaped before? Men are not your enemies. Find a good man, let him lead and enjoy your marriage.

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Wonder why they call you bytch? By 2pac- Go and listen to that track from youtube.

I got a mother, sisters and many girlfriends @primary, secondary and uni and they are wonderful people. But I've seen the bad ones too so I know who is a bytch and who is my sister.

Repent safarigirl repent

safarigirl: The fact that someone who calls himself a man would use the term 'bytch' to describe a lady simply because she has said things he doesn't agree with speaks highly of the kind of training he has.

There is nothing I hate more than that term and the men who use it, if you call a woman a 'bytch' you call all women same. It is this attitude we want a change of, when men refer to ladies as 'bytch' it's sickening. Nigerian men accuse the females of learning bad things from the Western media, my Nigerian men, did your father ever refer to your mother or any woman at all as a 'bytch'? Where did you get that term from? And where did you learn to use it so loosely?

Before you accuse others, evaluate yourself, ask valid questions, am I the kind of man I would wish my sister or cousin to be with? Do I respect the views of all and sundry irrespective of class and gender?

If you can answer these questions and do so with honesty, you can then come back here and blow your trumpets.

Until then warrior, bettermike, njokusboy and all the other dictators-in-waiting shouldn't look forward to happy marriages because I tell you, even the most submissive woman has her breaking point and you will NEVER see it coming

She's hiting on someone? That person should seriously guide his brain and pocket. Hahahahaha.... Its only a joke o Lol

bettermike: Leave women alone huh? Obviously you have no idea what you want. Wasnt it just now you were trying to hit on pocketeconomist? Your confusion will bring you bad fortunes i promise you. Unless you change your ways. Why are you so scared of submission btw? Have you been gangraaped before? Men are not your enemies. Find a good man, let him lead and enjoy your marriage.