At this point, I have to partially quote my statement on page 1

vikel2104: Hey guys, Let's just have a normal discussion... Work with what was said and don't imply what might not be the posters intent. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.

EfemenaXY:

Aww...he finally found his balls to confront me!

You know, I started typing out a long epistle for you but decided you aren't worth it. You never are, and you never will be, as far as I'm concerned.

A liar and a plagiarist you say? Over what? A debate supposedly dead and buried months ago? A debate where every single reference I used was documented in my write up?
A debate where the judges voted my argument superior to yours? It still hurts you, doesn't it? Why don't you request the judges andmoderators to remark the whole argument on your favour? Or better still, come take my 2nd place position, if that will help you sleep better at night, you despicable man?

Listen, I don't go back to vomit, but you obviously do. Now with all due respect, my fanatical Christian brother, be my guest and go fück yourself slowly.

I'm so done with your bile, but hey, feel free and have the last word(s). The dance floor is all yours. Mtcheew!!

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So, this policy of not answering "second hand questions", how does it work? ?

There were no second hand questions....you were asked once...skipped away like a petty thief on bail..and then started forming policy when you were reminded of your court date .

You are low rent. You simply don't have the breeding, education, intellect or experience to contribute in any meaningful way. I typically give you a wide berth because your noxious presence is quite sullying. Admittedly I just wanted too see you squirm here as you thoroughly deserved.

Given a inarticulate simpleton with archaic ideas and you're all over them. ....now they ask you one small kweshun and you are writing policy documents are calling for back-up. Are these policies original by any chance?

Long epistle my foot. If it's any good, it certainly won't be original and if it's original, it'll be crap.

The benighted EfemenaXY. I'm going to enjoy toying with you. I'm sure I have evidence of your fraud somewhere...


TV

^{Damiso apologies for involving you - even if tangentially. I know you're too polite to say and that you don't do rofo-rofo. I'll try and take a leaf out of your book. But some people just ask for it. !}

ileobatojo: I'm going to assume neither of these refer to me.

And you certainly don't need my permission to do that. Assume away !


TV

damiso:

If you read my stance on my other posts my arguments on why I think not only males could be predatory was that abuse on children especially those who could not speak was not only of the s.exual kind.

children who couldn't speak can even be abused sëxually. just like you asserted, there are sickos all over the world. if a sicko takes digital images of a child to share in those sick child pörn sites, surely, the sicko has abused that child sëxually.....it's still pëdophilia!!!

Interesting thread! I find something strange on this thread though:
That the known hard core feminists on NL who I thought were fighting against all forms of gender inequality are the ones with very strong bias for male care givers nothwithstanding their qualification while the non-feminists are the ones truly fighting against this form of male discrimination.

Does this mean that feminists are allowed to cherrypick what aspect of gender inequality they want to either fight or encourage? As it suits them?

If as a man I run MY company and MY sole aim is to make profit, why should I employ women who are going off work( I don't care if its called maternity leave) for 3 months and even if I am generous to employ them, why should I promote them like their male counterparts?

If it's ok to discriminate based on "motherly instinct", why is it not ok to discriminate based on "entrepreneurial instinct"??

I don't even know what to say ( type )again sef after seeing my mentions. I wanted to ignore my mentions but somehow I just feel thats not right.

TV01 I do wish you could indeed borrow that leaf and try to realise that we are all different and as such will have different views on issues.I do know our beliefs and in this case your faith colour our worldviews but the Christian thing to do in most cases would be to let go of old issues and resentments and treat each new case on its own basis. I don't think the "plagiarism" dig had anything to do with this thread and if it was about anything in the past I think you need to let it go.

Efemenaxy I know you have unfollowed this thread but I hope you read this. My asking the question again after TV asked was innocently trying to see what you felt about males in any caregiving proffession not just childcare or early years teaching. I did feel you were questioning my maternal instincts by continously questioning me about my opinion that I felt male child care workers are not necessarily a bad thing. It was never my intention to debate on this thread as like you said its everyone's prerogative to do what they think is best for their children. My intial post on this thread even put my hands up that I did buy into stereotypes and felt a bit wierded out when I felt my 3 yr old was going to be taught (not even cared for) by a man.I asked that question innocently and felt you would answer it based on the fact that you were the one who started the debate by continously questioning my views and using outliers to define my stance.You do know it was not in anyway meant to be malicious or cause a ruckus. I state my opinion on NL and its just how I feel on issues and not necessarily the right or correct one as most life issues sometimes never have absolutely right or wrong answers.

I know we can't get on with everyone (TV you are right I dislike rofo rofo and even in real life try to avoid uncessary conflicts) I hope all the bitterness hate and dislike esp for people we might pass on the street without recognising can be put to bed.

EfemenaXY:

Aww...he finally found his balls to confront me!

You know, I started typing out a long epistle for you but decided you aren't worth it. You never are, and you never will be, as far as I'm concerned.

A liar and a plagiarist you say? Over what? A debate supposedly dead and buried months ago? A debate where every single reference I used was documented in my write up?
A debate where the judges voted my argument superior to yours? It still hurts you, doesn't it? Why don't you request the judges andmoderators to remark the whole argument on your favour? Or better still, come take my 2nd place position, if that will help you sleep better at night, you despicable man?

Listen, I don't go back to vomit, but you obviously do. Now with all due respect, my fanatical Christian brother, be my guest and go fück yourself slowly.

I'm so done with your bile, but hey, feel free and have the last word(s). The dance floor is all yours. Mtcheew!!

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wait o, Is it that last yr debate?

Debate for nairaland oh, not even an international Organization debate
Hey, awunlamuo.
Your and TV should just hug and make up before you start seeing yourselves in your dreams.

BABE3:

I've lost count on the number of my males friends that claim they were first introduced to sêx ( at age 8/9/10), by one aunty or one house-help. They never reported though.

Men and women are equally capable of any evil. But with the way my society is set up; women are ALWAYs the saints; and all men are bad except our family members and spouses.

EnlightenedSoul: I wouldn't take any child of mine to a "day-school" until such a time as he/she is capable of speech, and perfectly confident in using the restroom solo.

I assume you mean a year at the least
Will you take a career break?

coogar: so aunty tola was sucking a 4-year old boy?
may God deliver our innocent sons from the aunty tolas of this world. if only little boys had hymëns, it would have been clearer to the gullible ones on this thread that women are the chief abusers of children.

damn... sucking the straw
Why is it hard for people to believe women can be wicked creatures

This thread is hot

@OP: I am indifferent to male caregivers as at today

I understand that bad is not the face of any gender

When it is time to take my child to the creche, I will treat on a case by case basis

damiso: TV01 I do wish you could indeed borrow that leaf and try to realise that we are all different and as such will have different views on issues.I do know our beliefs and in this case your faith colour our worldviews but the Christian thing to do in most cases would be to let go of old issues and resentments and treat each new case on its own basis. I don't think the "plagiarism" dig had anything to do with this thread and if it was about anything in the past I think you need to let it go.

I was involved in and following the discussion like everyone else. I asked for a response to a question that had been asked as part of that discussion. So as not to weigh in or provoke, I asked the question of you;

TV01:
Excellent question Damiso!

Was there an answer to this by any chance? I couldn’t find it…

TV

You then went out to EFemenaXY and asked for a response - if you'd decided you were done, I wouldn't have pressed. And once you asked, she was entitled to answer in any way she chose. And she duly chose to respond thus;

EfemenaXY:

Read between the lines Damiso. No offence babes, but I don't do second-hand questions.

Anyone willing to take me on in an argument should be bold enough to put their hands down their pants, find their balls and quote me.

I hope you get my drift?

A direct swipe at me - and wrapped up in some pretence about "second hand questions"? What did I do to trigger that response? Answer the question, or don't answer the question, her choice. She chose to answer out of spite. I also had the choice to respond as I see fit. And I did. The debate is long gone, my opinion of EfemenaXY is what it is, and well-founded. I purposely give her - and her gaggle - a wide berth to avoid this sort of thing.

If EfemenaXY is happy to acknowledge she kicked this off and apologise, I'll sheath my sword. Otherwise... ! And I'm not taking appeals on this one.


TV

damiso: I don't even know what to say ( type )again sef after seeing my mentions. I wanted to ignore my mentions but somehow I just feel thats not right.

TV01 I do wish you could indeed borrow that leaf and try to realise that we are all different and as such will have different views on issues.I do know our beliefs and in this case your faith colour our worldviews but the Christian thing to do in most cases would be to let go of old issues and resentments and treat each new case on its own basis. I don't think the "plagiarism" dig had anything to do with this thread and if it was about anything in the past I think you need to let it go.

Efemenaxy I know you have unfollowed this thread but I hope you read this. My asking the question again after TV asked was innocently trying to see what you felt about males in any caregiving proffession not just childcare or early years teaching. I did feel you were questioning my maternal instincts by continously questioning me about my opinion that I felt male child care workers are not necessarily a bad thing. It was never my intention to debate on this thread as like you said its everyone's prerogative to do what they think is best for their children. My intial post on this thread even put my hands up that I did buy into stereotypes and felt a bit wierded out when I felt my 3 yr old was going to be taught (not even cared for) by a man.I asked that question innocently and felt you would answer it based on the fact that you were the one who started the debate by continously questioning my views and using outliers to define my stance.You do know it was not in anyway meant to be malicious or cause a ruckus. I state my opinion on NL and its just how I feel on issues and not necessarily the right or correct one as most life issues sometimes never have absolutely right or wrong answers.

I know we can't get on with everyone (TV you are right I dislike rofo rofo and even in real life try to avoid uncessary conflicts) I hope all the bitterness hate and dislike esp for people we might pass on the street without recognising can be put to bed.

damiso should just apply to the UN after this post. with this skill of yours, you are the only one i know as of today that would bring peace to gaza.

TV01:
I was involved in and following the discussion like everyone else. I asked for a response to a question that had been asked as part of that discussion. So as not to weigh in or provoke, I asked the question of you

Oh shut your trap, will you?

Who do you think you're dealing with here? Kids? Don't try to cover up your hidden agenda by trying to present yourself as some sort of saint, you two-faced hypocrite!

It's plain as day to anyone reading your post that your question was provocative just as you'd intended. It's no rocket science that you and I don't see eye-to-eye. I keep my distance from you and if you had any shred of self-respect, you'd do the same. What sort of ffool would ask a question in this format:

Excellent question Damiso!

Was there an answer to this by any chance? I couldn’t find it…

Couldn't find what? Where were you searching that you couldn't find "any answer to her question by chance"? Why would you go searching for my response - a response you obviously were dying to read - when you could have simply asked me straight out, you two-faced-lying coward? Felt it was easier to push Damiso forward, while you stand back sniggering in your usual smug, conceited way?

Now the heat's on you, you claim the bolded bit above? Warra joker.

TV01: You purposely weighed in and were out to provoke. So now you've got what you wanted, let's enjoy the ride together, my fanatical Christian Brother.

TV01: You then went out to EFemenaXY and asked for a response - if you'd decided you were done, I wouldn't have pressed. And once you asked, she was entitled to answer in any way she chose. And she duly chose to respond thus

Really?

Tell that to the birds! Taking sly digs and "pressing" are your trademark. Na today?

TV01: A direct swipe at me - and wrapped up in some pretence about "second hand questions"? What did I do to trigger that response? Answer the question, or don't answer the question, her choice. She chose to answer out of spite. I also had the choice to respond as I see fit. And I did. The debate is long gone, my opinion of EfemenaXY is what it is, and well-founded.

For the second time, SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

Are you some sort of i.mbecile or what?? What do you mean by "what did I do to trigger that response?" And whether I chose to answer a question or not is none of your freaking business! If I wasn't discussing directly with you, why drop your muzzle in?

And as far as you're concerned, that debate, which obviously is the root of your vitrol is nowhere near gone. I asked you to go back to the judges and moderators to remark that argument in your favour. Why are you shying out? Isn't it what you truly want? I mean, you did question their honesty and integrity because things didn't go your way, didn't you? Thankfully, all the crap you spewed on that thread is still up for all and sundry to see.

And for the record, I don't give a monkey's about your opinion of me. Like seriously, you think I care? You think it's going to make me loose sleep at night? Or loose the skin off my nose? You better shove your head further up that a.$.$ of yours.

TV01: I purposely give her - and her gaggle - a wide berth to avoid this sort of thing.

Don't you ever, ever, think you can wow me with your choice of words, you uncouth thing.

Gaggle? Who are my gaggle? For those who don't know the urban dictionary / definition of that word, it means: "A group, preferably of b.!tches. 5 or more"

So who are these b.!tches you're referring to. You used the pronoun "my" meaning the women who agreed with my point of view on this thread, yes? So according to you, you ss.tu.pi.d punk:

~ Jennykadry
~ Ileobatojo
~ Edwife
~ ChilliSauce
~ Greatgod2012
~ Beeevan
~ Peggykorol
~ Soonest

and anyother female on here with an opposing view to yours is part of Efe's gaggle, yes? Interesting. Lemme see you wriggle out of this one, you despicable piece of shy.te!

TV01: If EfemenaXY is happy to acknowledge she kicked this off and apologise, I'll sheath my sword. Otherwise... ! And I'm not taking appeals on this one.

TV

You wankerous cree.p! Hell will freeze over before that'll happen.

Bring it on TV01. Bring it on, brother!

damiso: I don't even know what to say ( type )again sef after seeing my mentions. I wanted to ignore my mentions but somehow I just feel thats not right.

You know, you really should learn to let sleeping dogs lie, Damiso.

You know me well enough, are intelligent enough to have read between the lines of my response(s) that I wasn't willing to continue this conversation further. I have no qualms having a healthy debate with you - which we have done in the past. But when you choose to let someone like our dear fanatical TV01 push and prod you into a fight, then learn to stand your ground when the shyte hits the fan.

damiso: [s]TV01 I do wish you could indeed borrow that leaf and try to realise that we are all different and as such will have different views on issues.I do know our beliefs and in this case your faith colour our worldviews but the Christian thing to do in most cases would be to let go of old issues and resentments and treat each new case on its own basis. I don't think the "plagiarism" dig had anything to do with this thread and if it was about anything in the past I think you need to let it go[/s].

damiso: Efemenaxy I know you have unfollowed this thread but I hope you read this.

Since you insist on calling me out, I can't be held responsible if you get injured with whatever ensures, Damiso.

damiso: My asking the question again after TV asked was innocently trying to see what you felt about males in any caregiving proffession not just childcare or early years teaching.

Please. Please, don't insult my intelligence!

There was nothing "innocent" about your question. If it was indeed that innocent, you would have asked/insisted upon a response from me, and not AFTER that f.f00l chose to prod you on. You say you don't like rofo-rofo. How do you know I wasn't trying to avoid that happening with you, assuming I did see the question and chose to ignore it? I think you like rofo-rofo, hence your trying to jump on Efe's neck after TV01 had prodded you on, thinking you were onto a winning streak.

If not, then what was it? Payback? Revenge? You really think if I wanted to have it out with you, I couldn't have?

Has it occurred to you that perhaps, I respected you enough to leave it at that, and give the impression that you had one over me, by giving you the last say?

But now you wanna play peace keeper?

Seriously?

damiso: I did feel you were questioning my maternal instincts by continously questioning me about my opinion that I felt male child care workers are not necessarily a bad thing.

You and only you can question your maternal instincts! If my questions to you made you feel that way, then perhaps you should search deep within your soul and admit to yourself what your true feeling are about this issue, rather than trying to tangle yourself up with Efe in a fight.

damiso: It was never my intention to debate on this thread

I think it was your intention. Don't give me that. I ain't buying it.

damiso: as like you said its everyone's prerogative to do what they think is best for their children. My intial post on this thread even put my hands up that I did buy into stereotypes and felt a bit wierded out when I felt my 3 yr old was going to be taught (not even cared for) by a man.I asked that question innocently and felt you would answer it based on the fact that you were the one who started the debate by continously questioning my views and using outliers to define my stance. You do know it was not in anyway meant to be malicious or cause a ruckus. I state my opinion on NL and its just how I feel on issues and not necessarily the right or correct one as most life issues sometimes never have absolutely right or wrong answers.

[s]I know we can't get on with everyone (TV you are right I dislike rofo rofo and even in real life try to avoid uncessary conflicts) I hope all the bitterness hate and dislike esp for people we might pass on the street without recognising can be put to bed.[/s]

Re: the bolded, no. I don't know.

For the last time, Damiso. Leave it.

...ha, ha, ha... you and my gonads huh? . If there is anything original here you must have been up all night writing it - and with help! I'll be back to "pieces you" - there'll be no coming back from this for you EfemenaXY. I can't give this my full attention at the moment. But in the meantime, please show us where you got your definition of "gaggle from; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gaggle?s=t

As for your list, I've recently responded to or been quoted by 5 of the people on it, and 1, I don't actually recall ever having any discourse with.

Not just a dark mind, also a dirty mouth


TV

^{Damiso, I trust you'll demonstrate your usual class and ignore this bunny boiler. However, if you do decide to respond, make it quick. When I am done with her there'll be little or nothing left !}

EfemenaXY:

Oh shut your trap, will you?

Who do you think you're dealing with here? Kids? Don't try to cover up your hidden agenda by trying to present yourself as some sort of saint, you two-faced hypocrite!

It's plain as day to anyone reading your post that your question was provocative just as you'd intended. It's no rocket science that you and I don't see eye-to-eye. I keep my distance from you and if you had any shred of self-respect, you'd do the same. What sort of ffool would ask a question in this format:

Excellent question Damiso!

Was there an answer to this by any chance? I couldn’t find it…

Couldn't find what? Where were you searching that you couldn't find "any answer to her question by chance"? Why would you go searching for my response - a response you obviously were dying to read - when you could have simply asked me straight out, you two-faced-lying coward? Felt it was easier to push Damiso forward, while you stand back sniggering in your usual smug, conceited way?

Now the heat's on you, you claim the bolded bit above? Warra joker.

TV01: You purposely weighed in and were out to provoke. So now you've got what you wanted, let's enjoy the ride together, my fanatical Christian Brother.




Really?

Tell that to the birds! Taking sly digs and "pressing" are your trademark. Na today?




For the second time, SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

Are you some sort of i.mbecile or what?? What do you mean by "what did I do to trigger that response?" And whether I chose to answer a question or not is none of your freaking business! If I wasn't discussing directly with you, why drop your muzzle in?

And as far as you're concerned, that debate, which obviously is the root of your vitrol is nowhere near gone. I asked you to go back to the judges and moderators to remark that argument in your favour. Why are you shying out? Isn't it what you truly want? I mean, you did question their honesty and integrity because things didn't go your way, didn't you? Thankfully, all the crap you spewed on that thread is still up for all and sundry to see.

And for the record, I don't give a monkey's about your opinion of me. Like seriously, you think I care? You think it's going to make me loose sleep at night? Or loose the skin off my nose? You better shove your head further up that a.$.$ of yours.



Don't you ever, ever, think you can wow me with your choice of words, you uncouth thing.

Gaggle? Who are my gaggle? For those who don't know the urban dictionary / definition of that word, it means: "A group, preferably of b.!tches. 5 or more"

So who are these b.!tches you're referring to. You used the pronoun "my" meaning the women who agreed with my point of view on this thread, yes? So according to you, you ss.tu.pi.d punk:

~ Jennykadry
~ Ileobatojo
~ Edwife
~ ChilliSauce
~ Greatgod2012
~ Beeevan
~ Peggykorol
~ Soonest

and anyother female on here with an opposing view to yours is part of Efe's gaggle, yes? Interesting. Lemme see you wriggle out of this one, you despicable piece of shy.te!



You wankerous cree.p! Hell will freeze over before that'll happen.

Bring it on TV01. Bring it on, brother!

LMBO @ all the people claiming their questions were just 'innocent'. Do we look like infants?

No need giving sanctimonious speeches when you were deliberately looking for trouble.

Off to work! I'm hoping this 'gaggle' saga would have been resolved upon my return.

damiso:

Was this question for me?Did you even read any of my posts on this thread before asking for my reason for the question on neo natal nurses? I have not modified any of my previous posts on this thread but please go back and read them to see whether my opinions(I was not even debating with anyone until Efe quoted me) were not on the premise of abuse on young kids not being only s.exual.

Damiso, I'm putting a reply here because I don't want to bump the thread. Personally, I think the thread should die a natural death at this point. I actually have no problem with the question not being innocent, you were in the middle of a debate and were trying to prove a point, trying to one up the opponent so to speak. I get that, I do it myself. It's the denial that that's what you (but not you alone) were trying to do that I was pointing out. As to why I don't think the question was innocent, I think Efe explained it.

It's like me trying to say I only 'innocently' tried to find out if the neonatal nurse would actually disconnect the child from life support and do a ballroom dance across the ICU to go molest them. No one would believe my question was innocent.

TV01: ...ha, ha, ha... you and my gonads huh? . If there is anything original here you must have been up all night writing it - and with help! I'll be back to "pieces you" - there'll be no coming back from this for you EfemenaXY. I can't give this my full attention at the moment. But in the meantime, please show us where you got your definition of "gaggle from; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gaggle?s=t
As for your list, I've recently responded to or been quoted by 5 of the people on it, and 1, I don't actually recall ever having any discourse with.
Not just a dark mind, also a dirty mouth
TV

Yeah, yeah, punk. You had nothing to do with it. http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gaggle

Bring it on!

You s.stupi.d piece of shy.te!

hmmm... serious debate going on here!

EfemenaXY:
You know, you really should learn to let sleeping dogs lie, Damiso.
You know me well enough, are intelligent enough to have read between the lines of my response(s) that I wasn't willing to continue this conversation further. I have no qualms having a healthy debate with you - which we have done in the past. But when you choose to let someone like our dear fanatical TV01 push and prod you into a fight, then learn to stand your ground when the shyte hits the fan.
Since you insist on calling me out, I can't be held responsible if you get injured with whatever ensures, Damiso.
Please. Please, don't insult my intelligence!
There was nothing "innocent" about your question. If it was indeed that innocent, you would have asked/insisted upon a response from me, and not AFTER that f.f00l chose to prod you on. You say you don't like rofo-rofo. How do you know I wasn't trying to avoid that happening with you, assuming I did see the question and chose to ignore it? I think you like rofo-rofo, hence your trying to jump on Efe's neck after TV01 had prodded you on, thinking you were onto a winning streak.
If not, then what was it? Payback? Revenge? You really think if I wanted to have it out with you, I couldn't have?
Has it occurred to you that perhaps, I respected you enough to leave it at that, and give the impression that you had one over me, by giving you the last say?
But now you wanna play peace keeper?
Seriously?
You and only you can question your maternal instincts! If my questions to you made you feel that way, then perhaps you should search deep within your soul and admit to yourself what your true feeling are about this issue, rather than trying to tangle yourself up with Efe in a fight.
I think it was your intention. Don't give me that. I ain't buying it.
Re: the bolded, no. I don't know.
For the last time, Damiso. Leave it.

Shuo why would I want to tangle you in a fight?.for having a differring opinion? .I am on mobile at the moment and I am not too good at quoting line by line but you were the one who actually started asking me questions about ALL male nurseries All my intial posts on this thread were not even addressing anyone but stating my own opinions about the issue.You then quoted me and started my asking me the questions about All male nurseries. I answered you and you kept on asking further questions with different scenarios. which I kept on answerig..Even when I admitted that I had been a tad bit uncomfortable about it based on pre concieved notions about who should work in childcare you said I had to be 100% for or against.I honestly had not logged on before and responded based on my mentions which is the reason I asked the question again as I saw you had responded to others after my question.I only thought you could have given me the courtesy of answering my one question when I had answered several of yours. * modified * I just even went back to read my posts and I had even said it's ok we are entitled to our opinions when you said you were not answering the question and was going to let it go until ileobatojo asked her own question.i went back to read my posts again just to see where it seemed like I was trying to tangle you in a fight.

You know what Sorry if I offended you.I do not understand why you would think I would want to fight you (fight for what ) I dont get online fights.

I don't have the capacity or strength for online beef and I don't think there is anyone on NL who can say I have come after them even when we have had differing opinions om issues in the past.Every single poster I banter with I have disagreed or had differing opinions with on various issues.like I said I state my opinion and don't think its law.

ileobatojo: LMBO @ all the people claiming their questions were just 'innocent'. Do we look like infants?
No need giving sanctimonious speeches when you were deliberately looking for trouble.
Off to work! I'm hoping this 'gaggle' saga would have been resolved upon my return.

Was this question for me?Did you even read any of my posts on this thread before asking for my reason for the question on neo natal nurses? I have not modified any of my previous posts on this thread but please go back and read them to see whether my opinions(I was not even debating with anyone until Efe quoted me) were not on the premise of abuse on young kids not being only s.exual.

Ewele ooooo. What is happening hiaaa? I was busy fighting Nigerians in Nigeria and you Nigerians in diaspora are busy fighting each other.

Efemenaxy.....na who triggered ya anger on this thread? My own Efe kwa

She said no male teacher is allowed to care for her daughter kini big deal? Is it by force ni(BTW I haven't read the replies on this thread but I'm guessing we are still on the same topic )

Not worth it Efe, not worth it.

Damiso oya, let's go talk about Mary Kay and MAC. No more children talk, adult talk time ni

*off to the travel section to continue my own fight*

Calm down, my people
E no reash to fight na

EfemenaXY:



It's interesting reading the comments from most of the hardlined advocates vying for more men working with pre-schoolers (3 month olds - 2 years), who incidentally, aren't yet parents themselves.

All easier said than done sha. Afterall, at the end of the day, it's just words, innit?

Tell them!

EfemenaXY:

Oh shut your trap, will you?

Who do you think you're dealing with here? Kids? Don't try to cover up your hidden agenda by trying to present yourself as some sort of saint, you two-faced hypocrite!

It's plain as day to anyone reading your post that your question was provocative just as you'd intended. It's no rocket science that you and I don't see eye-to-eye. I keep my distance from you and if you had any shred of self-respect, you'd do the same. What sort of ffool would ask a question in this format:

Excellent question Damiso!

Was there an answer to this by any chance? I couldn’t find it…

Couldn't find what? Where were you searching that you couldn't find "any answer to her question by chance"? Why would you go searching for my response - a response you obviously were dying to read - when you could have simply asked me straight out, you two-faced-lying coward? Felt it was easier to push Damiso forward, while you stand back sniggering in your usual smug, conceited way?

Now the heat's on you, you claim the bolded bit above? Warra joker.

TV01: You purposely weighed in and were out to provoke. So now you've got what you wanted, let's enjoy the ride together, my fanatical Christian Brother.




Really?

Tell that to the birds! Taking sly digs and "pressing" are your trademark. Na today?




For the second time, SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

Are you some sort of i.mbecile or what?? What do you mean by "what did I do to trigger that response?" And whether I chose to answer a question or not is none of your freaking business! If I wasn't discussing directly with you, why drop your muzzle in?

And as far as you're concerned, that debate, which obviously is the root of your vitrol is nowhere near gone. I asked you to go back to the judges and moderators to remark that argument in your favour. Why are you shying out? Isn't it what you truly want? I mean, you did question their honesty and integrity because things didn't go your way, didn't you? Thankfully, all the crap you spewed on that thread is still up for all and sundry to see.

And for the record, I don't give a monkey's about your opinion of me. Like seriously, you think I care? You think it's going to make me loose sleep at night? Or loose the skin off my nose? You better shove your head further up that a.$.$ of yours.



Don't you ever, ever, think you can wow me with your choice of words, you uncouth thing.

Gaggle? Who are my gaggle? For those who don't know the urban dictionary / definition of that word, it means: "A group, preferably of b.!tches. 5 or more"

So who are these b.!tches you're referring to. You used the pronoun "my" meaning the women who agreed with my point of view on this thread, yes? So according to you, you ss.tu.pi.d punk:

~ Jennykadry
~ Ileobatojo
~ Edwife
~ ChilliSauce
~ Greatgod2012
~ Beeevan
~ Peggykorol
~ Soonest

and anyother female on here with an opposing view to yours is part of Efe's gaggle, yes? Interesting. Lemme see you wriggle out of this one, you despicable piece of shy.te!



You wankerous cree.p! Hell will freeze over before that'll happen.

Bring it on TV01. Bring it on, brother!

Jezz! Gaggle? Me I no be gaggle o. We all hv diff opinion on matters,it doesn't have to result to insults. Pls Efe and TV shealth ur swords.

pickabeau1:

I assume you mean a year at the least
Will you take a break?

Potty-trained and speaking intelligibly within a year, are you kidding?
No, I wont be taking any "breaks", but especially considering the importance of early childhood development and etc, I fully expect to be there. It's all about having a system, planning.

EnlightenedSoul:

Potty-trained and speaking intelligibly within a year, are you kidding?
No, I wont be taking any "breaks", but especially considering the importance of early childhood development and etc, I fully expect to be there. It's all about having a system, planning.

Yes I wondered too if a year wasn't too unrealistic

So can you help with the framework of this system..not specifics

Since you don't want to use daycare and I see u as a career type lady
It may help someone

pickabeau1:

Yes I wondered too if a year wasn't too unrealistic

So can you help with the framework of this system..not specifics

Since you don't want to use daycare and I see u as a career type lady
It may help someone

Well, as a preface, I don't raise a stink about daycare provided the child's guardian is wise, responsible, and tediously careful in their choosing. Much like assisted living facilities, child care services are very much a necessity in our society - I've worked directly with the two demographics, and I say this matter-of-factly.

That being said, I was raised by two working parents who absolutely despised the very thought of daycare, and a mother whose greatest horror tales involved babysitters. Yes, babysitters. I could tell you that I, as a child, had a more-than-healthy fear of strangers, and highly suspected everyone I didn't know of either being a demonic babysitter or ruthless kidnapper of sorts But I digress...

The framework simply involves the two working parents planning for the baby, and coordinating working shifts in such a way as to allow one or both parents to be there for the child at all times.

That's some sacrifice there....

Welldone

Though with telecommuting and flexible work policies.. Such can be worked out

EnlightenedSoul:

Well, as a preface, I don't raise a stink about daycare provided the child's guardian is wise, responsible, and tediously careful in their choosing. Much like assisted living facilities, child care services are very much a necessity in our society - I've worked directly with the two demographics, and I say this matter-of-factly.

That being said, I was raised by two working parents who absolutely despised the very thought of daycare, and a mother whose greatest horror tales involved babysitters. Yes, babysitters. I could tell you that I, as a child, had a more-than-healthy fear of strangers, and highly suspected everyone I didn't know of either being a demonic babysitter or ruthless kidnapper of sorts But I digress...

The framework simply involves the two working parents planning for the baby, and coordinating working shifts in such a way as to allow one or both parents to be there for the child at all times.

pickabeau1: That's some sacrifice there....

Welldone

Though with telecommuting and flexible work policies.. Such can be worked out

It isn't easy at first, but it's doable. It becomes progressively easier as the child gets older.

EnlightenedSoul:

It isn't easy at first, but it's doable. It becomes progressively easier as the child gets older.

OK..

EnlightenedSoul:


Well, as a preface, I don't raise a stink about daycare provided the child's guardian is wise, responsible, and tediously careful in their choosing. Much like assisted living facilities, child care services are very much a necessity in our society - I've worked directly with the two demographics, and I say this matter-of-factly.

That being said, I was raised by two working parents who absolutely despised the very thought of daycare, and a mother whose greatest horror tales involved babysitters. Yes, babysitters. I could tell you that I, as a child, had a more-than-healthy fear of strangers, and highly suspected everyone I didn't know of either being a demonic babysitter or ruthless kidnapper of sorts But I digress...

The framework simply involves the two working parents planning for the baby, and coordinating working shifts in such a way as to allow one or both parents to be there for the child at all times.

When a couple plan together for their kid/kids, it is easier to give them the needed attention and still build their careers or own lives if intetested