slimmy05:
Can see you're a retard. No wonder they regard you lots fcktar.ds

This is not about what you are and what you attain to be, this is about a stolen infant.

Ilekere:


This is not about what you are and what you attain to be, this is about a stolen infant.

How possible is it for her to steal her grand child and why make such conclusions without proper investigation as regards the case. Stop thinking through your anus or some road side pepper seller along "Idi oro" market in Mushin.

Despite the Islamic chants and the rumoured behaviour of Muhammed, you still nurse this useless idea https://www.nairaland.com/1933929/viewpoint-islam-bokoharam-usa

You're a complete drunk. I don't deal with fuickta.r.rds. I am no fan of religion. I am traditional. Call it crude, call it archaic. I have the right to my belief.

slimmy05:
How possible is it for her to steal the child and why make such conclusions without proper investigation as regards the case. Stop thinking through your anus or some road side pepper seller along "Idi oro" market in Mushin.

How possible is it to steal the child? Ask human traffickers the same question.
Grandmama snatch-a-baby probably learned a thing or two from her husband.

Ilekere:


How possible is it to steal the child? Ask human traffickers the same question.
Grandmama snatch-a-baby probably learned a thing or two from her husband.

Go and rest your dead brain

slimmy05:
How possible is it for her to steal her grand child and why make such conclusions without proper investigation as regards the case. Stop thinking through your anus or some road side pepper seller along "Idi oro" market in Mushin.
Despite the Islamic chants and the rumoured behaviour of Muhammed, you still nurse this useless idea https://www.nairaland.com/1933929/viewpoint-islam-bokoharam-usa
You're a complete drunk. I don't deal with fuickta.r.rds. I am no fan of religion. I am traditional. Call it crude, call it archaic. I have the right to my belief.

Sometimes, one has to be open-minded to understand creatures such as yourself.

I'm not taking your belief away. You have a right to believe that tradition justifies the abduction of an infant. I have the right to correct your belief.

slimmy05:
I am no fan of religion. I am traditional. Call it crude, call it archaic. I have the right to my belief.

Please, can you expatiate on the traditional bit, and why it wasn't applicable when he was beating it?

Honestly, I don't care about the chic, the guy, and nan. I only care for the innocent child brought into the world, in a quagmire. And who's most likely going to lead the rest of his/her life in a messed up black family set-up, that's more or less a vicious cycle now. It's just messed up. But the nan is a psycho, you just can't do that to a minor. The foreign office should get the kid off her soon - and she'll be barred from the UK (and that's if she doesn't get arrested).

Also, all these naija chics just love getting pregnant for absolutely no reason - looking for extra freebies nursing mums who're students get. Most of them are just useless. For example: while I was in Uni, the only four chics that got pregnant were all Nigerian chics. They always get pregnant everywhere like dogs.

I see the way ladies are supporting one sided story here without asking some questions but if the table is turn around, they would be all over the place, asking questions. It's a pity how Nigerian ladies (atleast 75%) have lost family and cultural values here in UK simply because of UK welfare system and family law which are in support of women (old story though) but the funny thing is this, the same ladies who could not take chit from the father of their kids will end up taking the same chit they couldn't take from their ex-hubbies from a mere boyfriend who has no stake in the future of their children, isn't that funny? And this, i ve seen load of times. The same money they refused to contribute towards the well-being of their family when their ex-hubby was there, asking for financial assistance would be spent on a boyfriend who already has 3 wives with children in Nigeria and does not care about her future and children. Sad!!! Isn't it?

Let's try to be logical and reasonable when it comes to the issue of children. These children deserve nothing but d best from both sides and I am of opinion if these children are given an opportunity to choose between their mothers and fathers, they wouldn't want to be in that situation, they would love to be with both parents. Realistically, here in UK or US, Nigerian ladies will frustrate your life to the point of committing suicide if you are the type that love your children. They will use these kids as fighting tools without giving (s)-chit about the future of these kids. If you doubt me, go around here in UK and US and see how loving and caring fathers have been subjected to all sort of ridiculous, mental, financial and of course psychological trauma simply cos they want to spend quality time with their own kids; these fathers are crying every passing day and these ladies will do everything to frustrate these men out of the lives of these childs. I have seen load of friends, white and black men who are going through all these mental and psychological trauma right now and there is no system in their favour. It breaks my heart when i see this crying souls. You can imagine someone who wakes up everyday to the calling of DADDY, DAD AND DADDY for 1 to 20 years but only 4 one person to take away this from you just like that in a day? It's a painful and killing experience for men in this horrible situation and I can feel their pains.

The scary and funny thing is that this women who claimed to love their children will comfortably keep this children away from their loving fathers for years ( 2yrs to 10yrs) without remembering that one day, just one day, these her so called children would have their own wives and be denied and she will equally be denied too as a Grandma from seeing their own blood. Karma is indeed a bitch!!!

My opinion about this is that if you truly and genuinely love those children, not only would u allow their fathers in their lives but ensure you keep him in their lives cos they need him as much as you are needed too. You can never play his role and he can never play your own role too and that's why God gave those kids to you and your hubby/partner in the first place.

Here in UK and US, ladies normally come up with all sort of lies to ensure that these loving fathers are kept at distance for long, out of their children lives. And honestly, I have seen men wringling in pains over non-custody of their own children in UK and US; practically rule out of their children's lives, crying heavily over their own kids. The last time they saw their own children was over 2 to 10 years ago. How do you want these loving father to feel is the question have asked my female friends over the years and none seems to care to answer my question? And d funny thing is that I have seen women supporting one another on this disturbing and heart-breaking topic on several occasions but none has been able to answer my question, and the question was HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THE TABLE IS TURN AROUND AND YOU EX-HUBBY DENIE U OF YOUR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF ONE ISSUE OR THE OTHERS?

Please, for the sake of these children's future, let's try to be reasonable and logical when taking decision on behalf of these kids. Always remember that these kids want their fathers in their lives as much as they want you. They don't love you more than their fathers; they love you both equally. And they are only close to you cos you as mothers spend all your days with them at home while the same fathers are out there looking for whatever it takes to support you and those kids. Why would u now take that joy of being a father away from those loving men when d relationship between you and him gone sour? Listen and listen real good, it takes two(father and mother) i said two to break their homes and it's sad when i see both sides pointing fingers at each other. You both guffed and messed up big time but women, leave your children out of it.

Family system and court in UK ll never and never support you as a man. I am in the system and I can boldly tell you that except your ex-wife is on drug or has mental issues, even at that, the system and the court ll try to see if there is a way out of that before giving you the custody of your kids. However, if you are a loving father, the system and the court ll give you room to tell your story and if you are xtremely good, you will ( not might) get shared custody which give you 50/50 responsibilities.

It's illegal to abduct a child. You ll only end up in prison and the same child ll be given back to the same mum and I doubt if you ll ever stand any chance to have the custody of that child again. Please and please, there is still little hope for men in UK family court instead of abducting the child, go to court and fight for your future- your kids.

Finally, I ll seize this opportunity to tell/appeal to men to respect, cherish and adore your wives cos staying at home to look after these kids is a tedious task you don't want to add to your daily job. Chaiii!!! Children are something else!!!! Stay at home with children and you ll realise that your daily job you r complaining about is MOIMOI. Women go through a lot to raise these children trust me on this. They go through stressful days to raise these kids to men while you are out there looking for money to take care of them. Yes i know what you have gone through too to bring food to the table; just try and cherish and appreciate your wives. And if you are fortunate to have a wife who combine both(work and taking of the kids) at the same, whao!!! Lucky u bro!!!! She deserve nothing but love and care from you. I have stayed at home with my children when I was off work and I asked myself " how on earth are women coping"? Those kids can frustrate your life with dad this , dad this, dad this and dad that all day. I called off my holiday and ran back to work. Bless them!!! Women are heroines and loving men are heroes too.

Let me share one secret with us here, this secret ll definitely make your union or marriage to stand d test of time if you adhere to it as if your life depends on it at all time. It's like a formula to those equations, bearing or longitude and latitude with which you and I solve our mathematical questions back in d days( I m not old ooo, just 35yrs old) . Always have it on your wall at home and in your office as a constant reminder. This secret is in your bible and here is d secret; your bible say Husband, love and care for your wife, and Wife, be submissive to your husband.

Please, ladies and gentlemen, take your time to digest these words very well and you ll see that all what your wife wants from you is right there in front of you, love and total care. Women love it bro, right women though. Stop doing this same thing everytime at home with your wives in terms of sex and other family engagements, be adventurous, inventive and creative in your marriage, women crave for these things but majority of them won't come out tell you. Be on top of your game bro. And the same thing applicable to ladies too, trust me ladies, men (African men) are born and raised in a particular tradition for almost 26yrs before you met him and it ll take years to break this tradition and this could be only be broken by the same secret right there. Men love it; their ego. Help him to pamper this ego in such a way that would make him to write you check for shopping every month and think of nothing than you. I have told ladies on different occasions, no matter how bad your one time loving husband has turn out to be, always be at your best, every man want a good wife. If he shops/fools around, he ll remember he has got jewel somewhere unappreciated one day and end up running back home for your mercy. This is where your submissiveness comes in and get the job done.

However, what I wrote up there ll never and ever work for marriages built on Lust/ infatuation. Why? Cos it takes more than lust/infatuation to love and care for your wives and be submissive to your husbands.

Enough said. Out of here

SirShymex:


Please, can you expatiate on the traditional bit, and why it wasn't applicable when he was beating it?

Honestly, I don't care about the chic, the guy, and nan. I only care for the innocent child brought into the world, in a quagmire. And who's most likely going to lead the rest of his/her life in a messed up black family set-up, that's more or less a vicious cycle now. It's just messed up. But the nan is a psycho, you just can't do that to a minor. The foreign office should get the kid off her soon - and she'll be barred from the UK (and that's if she doesn't get arrested).

Also, all these naija chics just love getting pregnant for absolutely no reason - looking for extra freebies nursing mums who're students get. Most of them are just useless. For example: while I was in Uni, the only four chics that got pregnant were all Nigerian chics. They always get pregnant everywhere like dogs.

Sir, I am not in support of the granny's action if its actually true. I am only working on the grounds of the Igbo tradition, which fully supports the lady having custody over the child till the guy decide to be responsible by performing the necessary marital rites. If he doesn't perform any rites then the child doesn't only belong to the lady, the child is also free the bear the lady's surname.

The dude failed to understand my grounds. I guess he's being rather too emotional than seeing my standpoint which would favor the both parties. Its either the guy becomes responsible or he doesn't have any right over the little girl.

We truly cannot ascertain the truth in her statement as regards the ex asking her to abort the child. I really do not believe her. I would only make further comments when I read from the guy and his family.

@Boldened, very true. They always want to hangout like wet clothes

Tokunbohkinibig:
I see the way ladies are supporting one sided story here without asking some questions but if the table is turn around, they would be all over the place, asking questions. It's a pity how Nigerian ladies (atleast 75%) have lost family and cultural values here in UK simply because of UK welfare system and family law which are in support of women (old story though) but the funny thing is this, the same ladies who could not take chit from the father of their kids will end up taking the same chit they couldn't take from their ex-hubbies from a mere boyfriend who has no stake in the future of their children, isn't that funny? And this i ve seen load of times. The same money they are hiding when their ex was there will now be spent on a boyfriend who does not care about her future and children. Sad!!! Isn't it?

I think this one is somewhat different. If you know Hertfordshire Uni, and you actually explored the Uni life out here - you should know that's the Uni we call the headquarters of who.res, with DMU in Leicester and Luton. Then in Uni, more time, you're always most likely not the only one fvcking whatever chic you're with - there's always a next guy. And guys do talk,so you'll most likely know who the other person is.

I guess that was why the guy never wanted the kid in the first place. Or there might be other things involved like what Onila and other folks alluded to. And when it came to that, she shouldn't have put the guy's name on the kid's birth certificate - till they can both prove beyond reasonable doubt that he/she is his legitimate kid.

However, the nan is nuts for kidnapping the child. That's kidnap and child trafficking there, and she'll be extremely lucky if she doesn't get arrested once the foreign office gets involved. You can't just mess about with minors like that, especially in the UK. Her ar.se will be locked up for a long time.

slimmy05:
Sir, I am not in support of the granny's action if its actually true. I am only working on the grounds of the Igbo tradition, which fully supports the lady having custody over the child till the guy decide to be responsible by performing the necessary marital rites. If he doesn't perform any rites then the child doesn't only belong to the lady, the child is also free the bear the lady's surname.

The dude failed to understand my grounds. I guess he's being rather too emotional than seeing my standpoint which would favor the both parties. Its either the guy becomes responsible or he doesn't have any right over the little girl.

We truly cannot ascertain the truth in her statement as regards the ex asking her to abort the child. I really do not believe her. I would only make further comments when I read from the guy and his family.

@Boldened, very true. They always want to hangout like wet clothes

Well, since the guy never wanted the kid in the first place - she shouldn't have put his name on the birth certificate. That's more or less forcing yourself on someone. Somewhat reminiscent of some naija chic that got pregant for a Zim guy (kind of like my guy in Town) during my first year. The guy wasn't even a student, back then, he was running a bar with his Uncle. This guy never wanted the kid, but the chic still went ahead to put his name on his birth certificate without the alleged father's knowledge. But unfortunately for the guy, he got into some madness with his other chic. Pushed her, and ol'girl fell on some next thing the pierced her stomach. And the guy has been locked up since then for attempted murder.

Anyway, the nan messed up. The culture should have stayed in Nigeria. And perhaps they should have gone the DNA route, and ask the chic to take their family name off the birth certificate, if they're not comfortable with it. What she did is kidnap and child trafficking. Also, since the crime was committed here and it involves a minor, she's fvcked once the foreign office gets involved. Kidnap alone is at least 8 years in prison. Then you have got child trafficking as well. Right now, they just need to beg the chic and defuse everything before it gets out of hand. You just can't do that. Culture should stay in naija.

I havent read all the comments, however for the fathers name to be on the certficate, at the time of registration of the birth, the father must have been there personally in the registers office and ageed to it.
The register will only put the fathers name on the certificate if the couple is married or the father is there personally.

At the end of the day, a child is involved here and everything should be done in the best interest of the child and that poor baby will be missing her mum, her routine and familiar surroundings that she is used to.
The grandmother has done the wrong thing regardless of what went down between her son and this girl. This is not about them but about this innocent baby who didnt ask to be brought into all of this.

So many things that were taboos and a shameful thing in those days are the norm nowadays. Girls get pregnant ten to a dozen these days. I see kids pushing babys in prams all becasue they want a flat and a few quid everyweek. Baby momma's everywhere. Its like a competition. Very sad.

Ilekere:


[s]How possible is it to steal the child? Ask human traffickers the same question.
Grandmama snatch-a-baby probably learned a thing or two from her husband.[/s]

quit talking thrash! you've been deliberately misquoting Slimmy05, with your thinly veiled tribal slur.

Punk!

She should contact SARS and State CID, if its Port Harcourt they stay, its a matter of days they will pick them up but oh girl the story is not adding up.

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Right now in Rivers State the courts are on strike, they have been on strike for a long tine and may remain on strike till after the election.

The police cannot work effectively without the courts. Our culture in Nigeria favors the man and since he has same surname with the daughter and all other relevant documents, it will be hard to prove kidnap.

Lets see how the drama unfolds.

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yes, he must have denied the child at the beginning
remember he was very young when he got her pregnant
and most guys at his age, wldnt be ready to have such responsibility

but trust later on, he had no choice but to accept and also raise his daughter after she was born or even before
I remember seeing his elder sister holding the baby after she was born on instagram and facebook
his sister flew from the US and mother from Nigeria just to meet their brothers new baby

this is not the first time, Mrs Ehiemere has been with the child
shes comes from a responsible family
I am sure she wants her granddaughter to have a better life
I am very sure the baby father and his mother have been helping the mother financially all this time

I wont be happy if this woman gets into trouble because of her silly son

A lot would have gone down in the background before now which we wont know about & both parents were irresponsible by siring a babhy that they both werent ready for at that stage of their relationship, but that notwithstanding the grandmother should NOT have taken that baby without the mothers consent.
That is not the answer to the issue at hand

If she felt that the girl wasnt looking after her granddaughter properly, then there are better ways to deal with it. You dont solve a problem by creating another problem

The boy and girl behaved like kids typical of some of the youth of these days, "act first then think later" mentality, and the grandmother should have been the adult here by offering advise and support; not taking the child away.

This could all get very nasty and she could land in trouble. If that kid is a British Citizen, then grandma needs to go and hire a very good lawyer, cos the British authoritys will come after her.

donedy:
Don't mind this Ofe_manu. A dad taking her daughter is now kidnapping. I doubt the UK airport will be that lax to let the granny pass through the airport without enough evidence. Keep shouting kidnapping, while the baby is living happily ever after with the rightful custodian.

Ofe_manu always trying to twist the real fact. The fool lost custody of the baby girl, then came online to seek sympathy by shouting kidnapping. In fact, her story don't even add up.

I'm glad the baby is in good hand.

Ofe_manu should mind their business!

I can't believe someone can be as daft as you
What exactly is your point? so cuz the useless dude is a sperm donor that gives his sorry for an excuse mum to steal the baby?

If they both feel the mum isn't capable of taking care of her own baby then why didn't they report her to the authority and gain custody of the baby the right way

Are you male or female or are you even human at all....even if this family feeds your whole family, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be sincere . Just stop this your useless rantings already.

The comments I've seen so far on this thread is good reason this grandmother must be made to face the full wrath of the law in Nigeria.

She should be an example,a precedence in justice served that this sort of evil will not be tolerated,that such highandedness must not repeat itself and wherever it is suggested everyone will remember the name of this wicked grandmother.

Lesson learnt. That some Nigerians actually think there can be any excuse for this evil meddling is scary,pple really need to be wary of Nigerian in-laws,their sense of entitlement apparently knows no bounds.

chaircover:
A lot would have gone down in the background before now which we wont know about & both parents were irresponsible by siring a babhy that they both werent ready for at that stage of their relationship, but that notwithstanding the grandmother should NOT have taken that baby without the mothers consent.
That is not the answer to the issue at hand

If she felt that the girl wasnt looking after her granddaughter properly, then there are better ways to deal with it. You dont solve a problem by creating another problem

The boy and girl behaved like kids typical of some of the youth of these days, "act first then think later" mentality, and the grandmother should have been the adult here by offering advise and support; not taking the child away.

This could all get very nasty and she could land in trouble. If that kid is a British Citizen, then grandma needs to go and hire a very good lawyer, cos the British authoritys will come after her.

if that kid is british, grandma will go to jail.

coogar:


if that kid is british, grandma will go to jail.

coogar:


if that kid is british, grandma will go to jail.

what if the grandma is in Nigeria at the moment

onila:
what if the grandma is in Nigeria at the moment

that's the easiest place to find her.
with as little as £1,000, nigerian mobile police unit would torture every woman on their street to get that baby back....

if the home office wants to make a big issue out of it, she would be extradited back to britain & jailed here or force nigerian authorities to jail her in nigeria. she's a complete idiöt for getting herself involved in this.....

onila:

she shoulda known better.....3 things anyone cannot do in the UK are....

•violent crime
•crimes against children
•drügs

they are serious crimes & especially the one involving a child. you would soon see #bringourchildback campaign in that neighbourhood. i doubt the babydaddy would even want to be part of this now with his face everywhere on the blogosphere.....

grandma is in big trouble.....

From most replies here, I can conclude that many Igbo men dont care about their childrens welfare, all they worry about is whose house the child is living in.
Many peoole do not know anything about the mans lifestyle, if he is single, married, playboy, drunkard, good, selfish, sex addict, God fearing etc. All they care about is the child should be at the fathers house no matter what.
I do not see many Igbo commenters stop to think how she is being brought up and by whom? Cos we all know the dad cant sit at home with her, we do not know.
How this drama played out clearly showed that the mans family have exclusive access to this child. The doors were open to her dads family to visit her and even live with her. So I do not see the main reason why she was stollen away. If Mama could see her at will and the baby mama was not hidding things from her baby daddys people, why this evil? Unless they have a good reason for taking her away, I think grand ma did bad.




Lesaon learnt. Good people always end up bleeped up. If this girl was a biatch and did not even let the mans family know where she lives and will not even greet that old woman this wouldnt have happened.
Through my years on earth, i have come to know that a good heart doesnt pay if one isnt careful of how he does his good. Br good from afar, dont go the extra mile for no one. Draw a line when you have to. Do not let emmotion push you beyound your boundry. Humans will take advantage of any smile.
Why the hell do you think those who give lifts, glass of water, rooms, stop to help accident victims, try to stop fights , stop to give directions to strangers etc get messed up? While those who are complete opposite of them get spared? Go figure.

welfare kids in uk are not gettoed kids.tax credit money no be joke,its cool doe,dnt ever look at it from american angle.

donedy:


First, you're the one making an assertion that the so-called Temmy is a real woman and better than others because she had a baby she fed on welfare. Here in the state, we have people like her and majority of them are in the ghetto, raising kids for the prison complex.

delishpot:
From most replies here, I can conclude that many Igbo men dont care about their childrens welfare, all they worry about is whose house the child is living in.
Many peoole do not know anything about the mans lifestyle, if he is single, married, playboy, drunkard, good, selfish, sex addict, God fearing etc. All they care about is the child should be at the fathers house no matter what.
I do not see many Igbo commenters stop to think how she is being brought up and by whom? Cos we all know the dad cant sit at home with her, we do not know.
How this drama played out clearly showed that the mans family have exclusive access to this child. The doors were open to her dads family to visit her and even live with her. So I do not see the main reason why she was stolen away. If Mama could see her at will and the baby mama was not hidding things from her baby daddys people, why this evil? Unless they have a good reason for taking her away, I think grand ma did bad.

I'm Ibo and know this mentality of "child belongs to the man" and its scary. How can you take a child that has been enjoying a certain standard of living with a mum who cares and loves her and take her to a country with people she does not know. Do they have her favourite cup, toys she might have a normal night time ritual that no one is following or care to find out. One of the most important things young children need is stability - honestly I couldn't sleep well last night cos I was just thinking what this baby is going thru. Now she will be crying and people will say - "her mother spoilt her that is why she will not keep quiet"

This story is a hot mess, how can a man not show interest when the baby was in the stomach then now that she is not waking up 4 times a night, leaking baby p/oo from the baby grow, teething pain and the stress that comes with it now decides eh hey I have a daughter.

And those two years is the most hardest,no baby father beside her when she wakes up everynight to change nappy,feed,carry time and crying time,flu and cold period,eczema period,teeting period,time desperately looking for minder just because she wants to do important things,thinking twice before going shopping and endless list,now some grandmother now comes to take her hardsweat and joy of motherhood,abeg,she should be arrested asap.

lowcurrent:


I can't believe someone can be as daft as you
What exactly is your point? so cuz the useless dude is a sperm donor that gives his sorry for an excuse mum to steal the baby?

If they both feel the mum isn't capable of taking care of her own baby then why didn't they report her to the authority and gain custody of the baby the right way

Are you male or female or are you even human at all....even if this family feeds your whole family, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be sincere . Just stop this your useless rantings already.

onila:
yes, he must have denied the child at the beginning
remember he was very young when he got her pregnant
and most guys at his age, wldnt be ready to have such responsibility

but trust later on, he had no choice but to accept and also raise his daughter after she was born or even before
I remember seeing his elder sister holding the baby after she was born on instagram and facebook
his sister flew from the US and mother from Nigeria just to meet their brothers new baby

this is not the first time, Mrs Ehiemere has been with the child
shes comes from a responsible family
I am sure she wants her granddaughter to have a better life
I am very sure the baby father and his mother have been helping the mother financially all this time

I wont be happy if this woman gets into trouble because of her silly son

Shut the h3ll up

Do you wish that one day your own MIL wakes one day and takes away your child to your village without your consent

I dont think you have a child so you dont have the slightest idea of what is called bonding between a mother and her child especially a single mom for that matter.

I pray the silly woman gets into trouble by her coward son.

Temmy pls give us your details we will try on this matter for you,AS I WANT TO CALL MY OWN HEALTH VISITORS NOW TO REPORTS THE ISSUE,NONSENSE.