Msauza:


Green or not, the fact remains SA still runs like a bull on Africa's kraal, despite its demotion. They control potion of Nigeria's economy and that of many African countries, something which Nigeria cannot do in Africa with their top position as Africa's economic power.

However, my question is; is your economy for real or only for figures?

you are living in an imaginary life if you honesty believe your southafrica controls a thing here. Mtn dstv and shoprite are nothing but a fleck in the ocean of the economy of Nigeria. We make south africa redundant as China does japan.

lezz:
you are living in an imaginary life if you honesty believe your southafrica controls a thing here. Mtn dstv and shoprite are nothing but a fleck in the ocean of the economy of Nigeria. We make south africa redundant as China does japan.

Dude,don't be dumb. South African money is behind some economic infrastructure you see. Dude you don't know much about business do you ?

Stanbic Bank is funding some "Nigerian" projects. How do you think Nigeria raises capital when its banks and investment companies are obsolete?

lezz:
satellites are bragging rights anywhere. And Nigeria's economic figures are for real. If you reside in Nigeria for the last decade you will see the evidence on the streets. For the infrastructure, we do not dispute it. We are a very young and large country and are catching up. Our economy is a new found one like China's. We are getting there. The dutch and british developed southafrica as home away from home when the whole of africa was still unknown to civilisation. We are matching and very fast.

That is not a reality. I recently travelled Nigeria, all from Lagos to Enugu, but it still remains the same old Nigeria. SA effect changes very fast on the aspects of infrastructure and today more than half and quota of citizens have electricity and water. The only government in Africa to build free houses, grant pensions to the old and young. Give feeding scheme to school children and many more.

Meanwhile, roads in Nigeria are in bad conditions and large majority of citizens are situated in rural settlement.

Bigger economy with nothing to show for it.

lezz:
you are living in an imaginary life if you honesty believe your southafrica controls a thing here. Mtn dstv and shoprite are nothing but a fleck in the ocean of the economy of Nigeria. We make south africa redundant as China does japan.

Chief, Nigeria is busted and cannot do anything to go off the chain. MTN is by no doubt the biggest service provider in Nigeria and has created many jobs which add significant value on the economy of Nigeria. The same applies to DSTV which has employed and empowered many businesses in Nigeria.

Should they however decide to pull out, Nigeria will at all costs feel the heat from a large scale loss of employment and revenues.

So, for as much as South African companies need you, you equally need them even more. So they are not under your mercy.

Msauza:



That is not a reality. I recently travelled Nigeria, all from Lagos to Enugu, but it still remains the same old Nigeria. SA effect changes very fast on the aspects of infrastructure and today more than half and quota of citizens have electricity and water. The only government in Africa to build free houses, grant pensions to the old and young. Give feeding scheme to school children and many more.

Meanwhile, roads in Nigeria are in bad conditions and large majority of citizens are situated in rural settlement.

Bigger economy with nothing to show for it.

it is either you are new to Nigeria or you are simply lying. I reside in Enugu for your info and for the last 4 years alone Enugu is one of the fastest developing cities in Nigeria. Large percentage of Nigerians live in cities. What are you really saying. Lagos alone is 25 million people. Followed by kaduna which is about 19m then kano not to mention portharcourt, abuja and environs, ibadon, benin ,asaba etc. Infact Nigerian government is advocating for people to go back to rural areas for agriculture and investment. That southafrican government feeds your youth and school children proofs how lazy and poor black southafricans are.all of your companies and roads are built by anglo-dutch europeans. Nigeria on the other hands represents the hope, dreams, efforts and aspirations the entire black race.
South africa is seen as a european extention so can never be a black man's bragging right.

lezz:
it is either you are new to Nigeria or you are simply lying. I reside in Enugu for your info and for the last 4 years alone Enugu is one of the fastest developing cities in Nigeria. Large percentage of Nigerians live in cities. What are you really saying. Lagos alone is 25 million people. Followed by kaduna which is about 19m then kano not to mention portharcourt, abuja and environs, ibadon, benin ,asaba etc. Infact Nigerian government is advocating for people to go back to rural areas for agriculture and investment. That southafrican government feeds your youth and school children proofs how lazy and poor black southafricans are.all of your companies and roads are built by anglo-dutch europeans. Nigeria on the other hands represents the hope, dreams, efforts and aspirations the entire black race.
South africa is seen as a european extention so can never be a black man's bragging right.

I will surely have to lecture you about Nigeria because you are seemingly showing signs of ignorance. Nigeria has over 170 million people and Lagos does not have the stats you are claiming. Statistics show that over 70% of Nigerians live in rural settlements, something which I have witnessed on my own. Enugu is still far behind as compared to what you get in SA. I do not blame you because you have never been to any country which is better than Nigeria, no wonder you are still impressed by the backwardness of Enugu and the outskirts of Lagos. I hope you visit SA to see what development is. Red carpets cannot just be rolled out for mediocrity.

Msauza:


In simple words, economy is not what determines a UN permanent seat. There are many factors they look into.

Moreover, it is not for you to decide that SA lost the top spot for good. In future, the tables could be turned around.

sorry, china already suport nigeria bid for UN permanent seat instead of S.africa and we are not a member of BRIC.

sirjerry:
sorry, china already suport nigeria bid for UN permanent seat instead of S.africa and we are not a member of BRIC.

SA is the one which called for that motion when Nigeria was warmly sitting with its buttockss. So, how will China's support help you to clinch the seat?

sirjerry:
sorry, china already suport nigeria bid for UN permanent seat instead of S.africa and we are not a member of BRIC.

China and Russia are going south.... they hate anything with the title west - like the West and west Africa.

and again, the US is now out to get you so they won't support you.

Msauza:



I will surely have to lecture you about Nigeria because you are seemingly showing signs of ignorance. Nigeria has over 170 million people and Lagos does not have the stats you are claiming. Statistics show that over 70% of Nigerians live in rural settlements, something which I have witnessed on my own. Enugu is still far behind as compared to what you get in SA. I do not blame you because you have never been to any country which is better than Nigeria, no wonder you are still impressed by the backwardness of Enugu and the outskirts of Lagos. I hope you visit SA to see what development is. Red carpets cannot just be rolled out for mediocrity.

lmao! enugu is Nigeria? its like saying 'I went to witbank [mpumalanga]' and. judge SA by the scenery... I do admit some parts of SA are beautiful, but dude, visit Abuja, cross river and akwa ibom even Lagos

lezz:
i will take that as an implicite admission that mark henry and the colonel has thought you some lessons. Well since they are my country folks and share same motions with me. I shall oblige your request and allow them turn you green. Lol.

Oh look! Nigeria is a homogenous society and all Nigerians think the same way and feel the same things. Thanks for revealing this fact.

iterator24:
lmao! enugu is Nigeria? its like saying 'I went to witbank [mpumalanga]' and. judge SA by the scenery... I do admit some parts of SA are beautiful, but dude, visit Abuja, cross river and akwa ibom even Lagos

Tourist numbers AND AWARDS say a helluva lot of parts of SA are beautiful. The same can't be said about Nigeria.

ThaVluit:


Tourist numbers AND AWARDS say a helluva lot of parts of SA are beautiful. The same can't be said about Nigeria.

dude, I reside in SA, and I've been to those places I mentioned, trust me they are beautiful, our clueless govt rarely promote tourism

lezz:
you are living in an imaginary life if you honesty believe your southafrica controls a thing here. Mtn dstv and shoprite are nothing but a fleck in the ocean of the economy of Nigeria. We make south africa redundant as China does japan.

Hey, how do you like the story of South Africa's JSE setting up Naira futures trading, seeing as you can't do it yourselves? That's control added on top of control. Sux bin yuuuu!

iterator24:
lmao! enugu is Nigeria? its like saying 'I went to witbank [mpumalanga]' and. judge SA by the scenery... I do admit some parts of SA are beautiful, but dude, visit Abuja, cross river and akwa ibom even Lagos

the rural Enugu is my second home by lineage. Thank you.

iterator24:
dude, I reside in SA, and I've been to those places I mentioned, trust me they are beautiful, our clueless govt rarely promote tourism

The Nigeria gvnt does try to promote tourism, don't lie. Just that tourists aren't biting because there are better destinations. Yes, the places you mention in Nigeria might be beautiful, but you are overreaching if you think they place Nigeria among the best tourist destinations in the world. We can list beauty the awards, listings and nominations that South Africa has won, if you wish.

sirjerry:
sorry, china already suport nigeria bid for UN permanent seat instead of S.africa and we are not a member of BRIC.

First it's BRICS

Second, no they did not.

ThaVluit:


The Nigeria gvnt does try to promote tourism, don't lie. Just that tourists aren't biting because there are better destinations. Yes, the places you mention in Nigeria might be beautiful, but you are overreaching if you think they place Nigeria among the best tourist destinations in the world. We can list beauty the awards, listings and nominations that South Africa has won, if you wish.

for more

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1457941&page=1

iterator24:


for more
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1457941&page=1

My post below.

ThaVluit:


Yes, the places you mention in Nigeria might be beautiful, but you are overreaching if you think they place Nigeria among the best tourist destinations in the world. We can list beauty the awards, listings and nominations that South Africa has won, if you wish.

iterator24:





for more

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1457941&page=1

Don't even try it because it well known that Nigeria has a small tourist industry even smaller than that of Kenya. We normally do not roll out red carpet for mediocrity.

Msauza:



Don't even try it because it well known that Nigeria has a small tourist industry even smaller than that of Kenya. We normally do not roll out red carpet for mediocrity.

All provinces of South Africa have serious tourist attractions. World class/beating stuff in all the provinces.

ThaVluit:


Yes, the places you mention in Nigeria might be beautiful, but you are overreaching if you think they place Nigeria among the best tourist destinations in the world. We can list beauty the awards, listings and nominations that South Africa has won, if you wish.

Use your brain, none of my post connotes the highlighted, Nigeria is beautiful, so as Kenya and SA.. Awards and nominations for your tourism industry is as a result of your government effort and somewhat stable country... 'No place' is the most beautiful dude...

ThaVluit:


All provinces of South Africa have serious tourist attractions. World class/beating stuff in all the provinces.

Even lagos with all her slums has tourist attractions let alone other states

iterator24:

Use your brain, none of my post connotes the highlighted, Nigeria is beautiful, so as Kenya and SA.. Awards and nominations for your tourism industry is as a result of your government effort and somewhat stable country... 'No place' is the most beautiful dude...

Why don't you use your brain and point to [b]ONE ICONIC [/b]thing in the pictures that you posted? Just one? The only iconic thing is the Abuja rock, but it is forgettable. We are talking about major tourist destinations. Places that are worth spending life savings on.

Msauza:



Don't even try it because it well known that Nigeria has a small tourist industry even smaller than that of Kenya. We normally do not roll out red carpet for mediocrity.

My brother from enugu, next time you're visiting your family, visit other states, last time I checked Nigeria has 36..

ThaVluit:


Why don't you use your brain and point to ONE ICONIC thing in the pictures that you posted? Just one? The only iconic thing is the Abuja rock, but it is forgettable.

there's ILE-IFE in OSUN STATE in Nigeria, plus Benin etc

iterator24:
My brother from enugu, next time you're visiting your family, visit other states, last time I checked Nigeria has 36..

Iterator, we aren't saying Nigeria is ugly. We are just saying please don't overreach.

ThaVluit:


Iterator, we aren't saying Nigeria is ugly. We are just saying please don't overreach .

kindly tell us, How has anything i've posted here connote that?

iterator24:
there's ILE-IFE in OSUN STATE in Nigeria, plus Benin etc

Same post as I gave you the last time, this is not iconic, bruv. To give you an example, SA has more than one world heritage sight, a modern wonder of the world and tons and tons of other unforgettable, once-in-a-lifetime ICONIC spots and experiences. Nigeria has beautiful places, but tourists aren't gonna spend their life savings by the thousands on Nigeria, when there are places like South Africa.

iterator24:
kindly tell us, How has anything i've posted here connote that?

Connote what?

ThaVluit:


Iterator, we aren't saying Nigeria is ugly. We are just saying please don't overreach.

Beyonce is beautiful in her own way so does rihanna... africa is beautiful.... I've traveled around and they have their unique beauties, i'd implore you to do the same.. Even morocco! My friend, the world doesnt end in SA