Patchesagain:


Why then do our troops sit inside of their armor when on the move and why do russians sit ontop?

BMP is a death trap, proved by every war it has ever fought in

You compare South African army to Russian army? LOL....the same Russians you run to for military equipment and scientific help? Clown
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Patchesagain:


Lol, ATR-42 is not an ISTAR platform - confirmed by the manufacturer

ATR-42 an ISR platform used by NAF after upgrade in ISTAR role as confirmed by your favorite source on Scorpion jet purchase interest. Your own source proves me right
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agaugust:


You compare South African army to Russian army? LOL....the same Russians you run to for military equipment and scientific help? Clown
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What milltary equpment do we have that we bought from russia and when have we asked them for technical help?

agaugust:


If you have excuses for SAAF crashes, we too have excuses for NAF crashes. Equation balanced.

Anyway, NAF flies 100 times more than SAAF, you have ZERO jet combat sortie in 20 years !
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When we aske for proof you can not show any reported flying hours. Yet it is a fact SAAFs budget is higher than NAFs. So how do you fly more hours?

mzilakazi:


They are newer, yet they were reported to have mechanical failures and poor maintenance. They were grounded as confirmed by sources and not me.

You quoted an old year 2012 source before Pakistani technical assistance came that same year. I posted a current year 2014 war zone photo, I have defeated you and snatched your g.irlfriend in broad daylight
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Patchesagain:


Reason they avoid each other is Nuclear, not Naval.

America dominates with Carriers
America dominates with Surface Vessles
America dominates with Submarines (71 compared to Russia's 61)

USN wins hands down, Russia does not stand a chance

The USA and Russia will both wipe out each other's ships with missiles, only submarines will remain. USA has 10 more submarines than Russia, but Russia has two times more nuclear powered submarines than the USA, means the Russians have submarine advantage in combat capability and invisibility.

Reason we avoid each other is not nuclear because both nuclear powers fought each other indirectly in Korea and Vietnam, both of us don't want nuclear annihilation, we avoid the Russians because in Vietnam war we learnt our lesson that anything Russia Vs America will end in a stalemate after wasting people's lives for nothing !

Patchesagain:


I asked for Radar specs, you post a source saying they were in there - they arent. So show us a source which confirms 350km range and stop avoiding the question.

ISR is a lessor form of ISTAR. Your ATR is an ISR platform.

Beechcraft 350 is a VIP transport, not ISTAR - confirmed by the fact that it is operated by a VIP transport squadron.

The only one in a mess here is you. Show us your 350km range specs.

Nope, I drilled a hole in @Andrewza's s.kull and uploaded facts to prove NAF has two Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR with photos and videos of the radars and interior ISTAR equipment clearly seen on this forum for many days repeatedly as I rubbed it with hot pepper into your bleeding eyes

ATR-42 has 330km radar range and I have repeated it's source over 20 times here in one year, so now you post your own source to prove me wrong....and I dare you !!!!
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NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO BUY COOKING STOVES WORTH N9.2bn ! ! ! !
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the nigerian government has confirmed the plan to purchase cooking stoves worth over N9.2 billion for nigerian women in support of the "clean cooking programme".
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http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-buy-cooking-stoves-with-n9-2bn/
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EVarn:
and how do you know that the NAF have never kept up scheduled maintanance?,if our aircraft werent maintained,would there have being any left to fight boko haram?.clownish character. why does the SAAF want to rearm when they already have 6 gripens{operational},and a few half-clogged hawks?.you claim that almost all your aircrafts are operational,then why do you feel the need to rearm the SAAF?,you arent even fighting a war. a source that didnt claim that our F7 are grounded.contrary to your misguided beliefs.

You see the problem is that you don't read. Here's an excerpt from a source of last year March.



The Pakistanis were brought in following several
F-7 crashes and the loss of maintenance
schedules, which resulted in the grounding of the
fleet in October 2012.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30548:pakistan-assisting-nigerian-air-force&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

Why would SAAF want to rearm or whatever you call it when they readily have 26 gripens and 24 hawks fighters? There is a complete difference between rearming and wanting to buy completely new jets. The force buy new jets when their current stock is either fading away or experiencing problems, however, that does not apply to America which always have a taste for new things.


My call is that Nigeria is buying new jets because their current stock is telling telling its life story. Bam!!!

Patchesagain:



F-15 is not designed to fight the Su-35. F22 Raptor is designed to do that, and it will do it with ease. Learn the difference between Multi-Role and Air-superiority fighters.

PAK-FA is not operational, and will only become operational into service in 2016... F-22 has been in service since 2005. Meaning Russia is 11 years behind America in that department. And the F-35 is another step ahead, that will eat the PAK-FA on autopilot and even the F-35 will be introduced before the PAK-FA... meaning that America is TWO platforms ahead of Russia.

T-90SM is nothing more than an upgraded T-72. Its obsolete rubbish and the Russians are allready trying to replace it with with the T-95 (which was cancelled because it was obsolete before they finished designing it) and now with the Armata. Abrams will destroy it with ease. The Dorchester/Chobham armor with the new DU layer is practically in-penetrable.

Plus the new M1A3 will be introduced around the same time as the new Armata, meaning the Americans will maintain their lead in tank design.

Russian missiles match american missiles because americans dont focus on missiles. Russia knows that they will NEVER be able to match American Air or Naval power, so they focus on missiles because that is the only way that they will stand a chance.

Again, you know nothing.

If the pile of rubbish you wrote above is true, America would have kicked Russia out of Ukraine long ago instead of posting satellite photos to prove that Russian tanks and missiles are operating freely inside Ukraine.

Clown....cloned clown you are.
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andrewza:


Show proof of 33mm. At 33mm it would be to heavy to float.

Ratel is 20mm don't know the others of hand.

BMP-2 is 33mm frontal armour, google is free for your use, stop sending me on foolish errands, use your own time to google stuff
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agaugust:


I am a PMC research support staff. I can only show you my uniform and gun, but my US Passport data page ? No !
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lol, a researcher with a uniform and gun?

yes, please, post both!

agaugust:


The photos and official reports have been repeatedly posted on this forum over 20 times and nobody argues with it. Why should we keep going back to recycle same old story? NAF trains air to air combat with PAF and we fire missiles on our F-7 while SAAF Gripen pilots have NEVER fired a single Gripen missile since you got the jets.

Indian air force was a 100 times more deadly opponent than Cuban teenage pilots that defeated South Africa in the air war.

PAF chief of staff vowed to transfer ALL Pakistani air combat skills and experience to Nigerian pilots, we are better in air combat now 2014 than the South African Gripen crew that has ZERO experience of firing Gripen missiles
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When and where

Answer the question

agaugust:


If you have excuses for SAAF crashes, we too have excuses for NAF crashes. Equation balanced.

Anyway, NAF flies 100 times more than SAAF, you have ZERO jet combat sortie in 20 years !
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SAAF flew 18 000 hours last year

how many did NAF fly?

agaugust:


Nope, SANDF official army website does not say so
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Yes it does, according to it the only Ratel we have is the ZT3
http://www.army.mil.za/equipment/weaponsystems/armour/ratel_equipm.htm

ActivateKruger:


That's a MiG 21 reincarnated... we shot those in Angola like target practice.

Last time SAAF fired a missile was 20 years ago, Bwahahaha
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agaugust:


You compare South African army to Russian army? LOL....the same Russians you run to for military equipment and scientific help? Clown
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Our troops sit inside, theirs sit ontop.

This is a fact.

agaugust:


ATR-42 an ISR platform used by NAF after upgrade in ISTAR role as confirmed by your favorite source on Scorpion jet purchase interest. Your own source proves me right
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What source?

agaugust:


You quoted an old year 2012 source before Pakistani technical assistance came that same year. I posted a current year 2014 war zone photo, I have defeated you and snatched your g.irlfriend in broad daylight
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Most recent sources from your own airforce say the F-7 is obsolete and mainly grounded

mzilakazi:

You see the problem is that you don't read. Here's an excerpt from a source of last year March.
[b]The Pakistanis were brought in following several
F-7 crashes and the loss of maintenance
schedules, which resulted in the grounding of the
fleet in October 2012
Why would SAAF want to rearm or whatever you call it when they readily have 26 gripens and 24 hawks fighters? There is a complete difference between rearming and wanting to buy completely new jets. The force buy new jets when their current stock is either fading away or experiencing problems, however, that does not apply to America which always have a taste for new things.
My call is that Nigeria is buying new jets because their current stock is telling telling its life story. Bam!!!

hahahaha....dont make me laugh.uMnuz umhlekisi,Nigeria is buying new jets to modernize and upgrade our aerial fire power,the same way the SAAF is begging your failed government to revamp the airforce fleet.BAM!!

agaugust:


BMP-2 is 33mm frontal armour, google is free for your use, stop sending me on foolish errands, use your own time to google stuff
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Only the gun mantel. That is a very small part of the turet witch is it's self very small.

agaugust:


The USA and Russia will both wipe out each other's ships with missiles, only submarines will remain. USA has 10 more submarines than Russia, but Russia has two times more nuclear powered submarines than the USA, means the Russians have submarine advantage in combat capability and invisibility.

Reason we avoid each other is not nuclear because both nuclear powers fought each other indirectly in Korea and Vietnam, both of us don't want nuclear annihilation, we avoid the Russians because in Vietnam war we learnt our lesson that anything Russia Vs America will end in a stalemate after wasting people's lives for nothing !

All of America's submarines are nuclear powered. You chucklefuck.

And no, Russia's surface fleet does not stand a chance in hell against the USN.

And, no. That is wrong in every way. MAD is the reason they dont fight. Vietnam was a US military victory and not a stalemate.

And there is no "we" as you are not American.

EVarn:
how is the F7 a MiG 21 reincarnated?,what you shot down in angola were rusted tin cans with wings that came all the way from over the ocean.a fleet of F7 is enough to propel SA into the world of merlin and camelot.

MiG-21 and F-7....different name, different manufacturer, different generation, different wings, different radar, different avionics, different ECM, different engine, different missiles, different combat foes when you meet them in the air...

agaugust:


Nope, I drilled a hole in @Andrewza's s.kull and uploaded facts to prove NAF has two Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR with photos and videos of the radars and interior ISTAR equipment clearly seen on this forum for many days repeatedly as I rubbed it with hot pepper into your bleeding eyes

ATR-42 has 330km radar range and I have repeated it's source over 20 times here in one year, so now you post your own source to prove me wrong....and I dare you !!!!
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No, I watched that argument. You did not. Its a VIP transport operated by a VIP squadron.

Post the source that says the ATR-42 has 330km radar... i dare you!!

agaugust:


If the pile of rubbish you wrote above is true, America would have kicked Russia out of Ukraine long ago instead of posting satellite photos to prove that Russian tanks and missiles are operating freely inside Ukraine.

Clown....cloned clown you are.
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Its like talking to a child.

Ever heard of MAD? Its the reason the US has not attacked Russia (and vice-versa)

Russia and its armed forces do not stand a chance against America.

Also: I notice that you avoided trying to argue with the points I made - because they are correct

agaugust:


BMP-2 is 33mm frontal armour, google is free for your use, stop sending me on foolish errands, use your own time to google stuff
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You said the whole vehical was protected against 23mm (never heard of a 23mm cannon before )

agaugust :

LOL, Nigerian army's new amphibious BMP-2 IFV has 33mm armour, even a 23mm cannon CANNOT penetrate it.

This is false, frontial arc only offers PARTIAL protection against 20mm

Welded steel armor of the BMP-2 provides all-round protection against 12.7-mm rounds. Front arc of this IFV offers partial protection against 20-mm ammunition.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/bmp2.htm

Yeah, maybe you should take some of your own advice and use that free google thing

agaugust:


Last time SAAF fired a missile was 20 years ago, Bwahaha ; D
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When was the last time NAF fired a missile?

agaugust:

MiG-21 and F-7....different name, different manufacturer, different generation, different wings, different radar, different avionics, different ECM, different engine, different missiles, different combat foes when you meet them in the air...

are you minding the educated illiterate,who doesnt even know what he is saying.

EVarn:
hahahaha....dont make me laugh.uMnuz umhlekisi,Nigeria is buying new jets to modernize and upgrade our aerial fire power,the same way the SAAF is begging your failed government to revamp the airforce fleet.BAM!!

Scorpion Jets is not impressing anyone

agaugust:


MiG-21 and F-7....different name, different manufacturer, different generation, different wings, different radar, different avionics, different ECM, different engine, different missiles, different combat foes when you meet them in the air...

F-7 is a copy of the Mig-21

This is a well known fact.

andrewza:


What milltary equpment do we have that we bought from russia and when have we asked them for technical help?

LOL ! You go read pages of this thread from last week, your countrymen were boasting here that South Africa is begging Russia to sell spy satellite to you and build new nuclear reactors for you.... I though Soweto lazy parasites living permanently on ANC government cash donations are more intelligent than Russian scientists in Moscow!
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agaugust:


LOL ! You go read pages of this thread from last week, your countrymen were boasting here that South Africa is begging Russia to sell spy satellite to you and build new nuclear reactors for you.... I though Soweto lazy parasites living permanently on ANC government cash donations are more intelligent than Russian scientists in Moscow!
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So how is Nuclear Reactors and a Spy satellite the same as IFV's?

Ever heard of the saying "comparing apples and oranges"