plaetton:


Correction.
Paul was not a follower of Jesus.
He never knew Jesus, never heard or learned the teachings of Jesus firsthand from the original disciples of Jesus, neither did he quote Jesus in his teachings.
His so-called encounter with Jesus is the type of bullshyte any conman can cook up.
Such alleged encounters are the bread and butter of conmen the world over since 10,000 BC. lol

And it is interesting that he himself is not shy about calling himself a conman.
And many conmen have indeed cooked up many many of such balonies before and after him.

So, the choice is a simple one for those that call themselves christians.
Who do you follow, Jesus or Pauline doctrine?

omonuan:

Paul wrote about 60 percent of the modern Bible. This 60 percent is replete with outlandish contradictions of Christ teachings. The rest are supplemented with lies. Throughout his ministry the fact that Paul was a liar dogged him like snoop doggy dog.

plaetton:


Correction.
Paul was not a follower of Jesus.
He never knew Jesus, never heard or learned the teachings of Jesus firsthand from the original disciples of Jesus, neither did he quote Jesus in his teachings.
His so-called encounter with Jesus is the type of bullshyte any conman can cook up.
Such alleged encounters are the bread and butter of conmen the world over since 10,000 BC. lol

And it is interesting that he himself is not shy about calling himself a conman.
And many conmen have indeed cooked up many many of such balonies before and after him.

So, the choice is a simple one for those that call themselves christians.
Who do you follow, Jesus or Pauline doctrine?

omonuan:


The bible is not open to interpretation
- 2 Peter 1:20-21:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. KJV
◄ Revelation 22:16 ►

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And to think that Paul said that "God is not the author of confusion"! (I Corinthians 14:33)
Cross References
Deuteronomy 4:2
Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

Deuteronomy 12:32
See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.

Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

The Bible says what it means and means what it says. It states that “scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35) and “Your [God’s] word is truth” (17:17). If we are to believe that the Bible is unbreakable truth, then we must believe that death means death and life means life! White is white and we do not need Holy Ghost to interprete the "unbroken truth." It is what it is. How sad that most do not understand these straightforward verses.

babatgtr:
paul knew Jesus not only that, He knew Him face to face cos jesus show himself to him on his way to Damascus and read all paul letters he always say i d servant of Jesus Christ if paul is not a follower jesus christ and if He did not see him face to face they will never giv him apostle title cos u ave to see christ face to face before u cn be namd Apostle

donsufia:
Femi, Top of the day to you. I don't want to take you far, but realize that Christianity- the Church-started in the day of Pentecost (Acts 2).

But before then, all the Apostles including Jesus Christ operated under Judaism (The law)...I think you know what the subjects of the law meant

to the Israelite then. From point number 4 of yours above(talking about circumcision and non circumcision ), it was a very serious problem in the

early Church that led to the first Jerusalem council that was headed and chaired by James - Jesus' brother (read Acts 15:1-19,). Also read the

vision of Peter in Acts 11. Now if you calm down your attitude toward Paul and study his ministry carefully from the time of his conversion till his

death, you will realize that He was the greatest of the Apostles and a very intelligent as well, even Peter knew this and did not pick

offense with him. Remember he was the Apostle of the Gentile, and that the Gentiles - Greek philosophers- were very knowledgeable & difficult

to deal with, he always used high level of skills to penetrate these Greek philosophers.He even rebuked Peter while the later was eating with the Gentiles and pretended upon seeing Paul and Peter did not pick offense.

So my brother, before you understand this great man, you must be prayerful and humble in your spirit.Remember his advice to the Corinthian

brothers in 1 Cor 1:18-19? Know for sure that if Paul was an imposter to the gospel of Christ, there is no where he would have escaped

condemnation from other Apostles. God bless you for studying the word of God with sincere mind.

plaetton:


Correction.
Paul was not a follower of Jesus.
He never knew Jesus, never heard or learned the teachings of Jesus firsthand from the original disciples of Jesus, neither did he quote Jesus in his teachings.
His so-called encounter with Jesus is the type of bullshyte any conman can cook up.
Such alleged encounters are the bread and butter of conmen the world over since 10,000 BC. lol

And it is interesting that he himself is not shy about calling himself a conman.
And many conmen have indeed cooked up many many of such balonies before and after him.

So, the choice is a simple one for those that call themselves christians.
Who do you follow, Jesus or Pauline doctrine?

prettyboi1989:

U are just contradicting yourself and because of ur oversabi u failed 2 understand my point. U don't read the bible like a novel, the holy spirit reveals things embedded in the word. When did I talk about adding or taking away from the word to interpret it? Get ur head straight.

Beey:
Whether to believe or not to believe is a personal choice & I'll say to each his own.The apostles encountered Jesus in different ways.Some had visions & angelic encounters.Like I said before, I don't believe that a normal person can die for no course.Yet we see Paul being imprisoned.John the Baptist was beheaded, Peter was hang upside down.Stephen was stoned.Paul eventually died because of preaching the Gospel of Jesus.You cannot tell me that these men died for no course.They died because of Christ

omonuan:


I get it ! You are one of those that think the Bible does not mean what it says, it says what you mean! You need to read the verses I quoted that clearly shows that you have to accept the words as written, do not add or subtract.

plaetton:


Everyday, people die for what they believe.
That does not validate whatever they believed.

For example, Boko Haram terrorists are dying for what they believe.It
Does that fact validate their beliefs?

tbaba1234:




Book 1, pure comedy. The author deliberately misrepresented facts and even lied about his references.

This book should be for comedy purposes only. It is tragic that people do not even do baaic research on his claims.

Book 2,Doubt he can tell me anything about the Quran, given that I have actually studied the book from more knowledgeable people.

Beey:
It might not validate their beliefs as correct but the fact us that they died for something & in Paul's case Christ.I rest my case.

plaetton:


And my simple point is that I am in agreement with the op that Paul corrupted, subverted and perverted the simple teachings of Jesus to suit himself, his ego , and his ambition.
That he met a horrible death while doing it, does not in any way make him a good guy for christianity.
Simple!

cuteniva:
seconded

prettyboi1989:

Eh eh, guy do u av problem with understanding or comprehension? When did I say the bible doesn't mean what it says? Dude u need to go back to jss1... The bible is inspired by the holyspirit, if u want to understand it u consult the holy spirit to teach u.... The word of God will seem meaningless to someone who reads it like a novel. Why do u think God drops a word in people's heart when they read the bible. Does any word drop in ur heart when u read a novel?

blym4real:
I don't argue about religion, cheers and enjoy your religion. But please don't talk about the bible because you read it for argument sake not for understanding.

omonuan:


If you did not say the Bible does not mean what it says, why do I then need Holy Ghost to decipher the coded teachings? Why did you say God drops words in your heart when you read the Bible, you sound amorphous. There is no objective way to verify your claim.

The words are clear enough for me and I do not need you to tell me what God has dropped in your heart. You may be hallucinating for all I know so why should I believe you instead of what is written?

Beey:
Like I said earlier, to each His own.But as a Christian, am against this heresy they OP is spreading & I choose to stand with what I believe in but bottom line is that we all have the right to choose what we want to believe or not to believe.

tbaba1234:


I did not talk about your bible.

monemsis:
@OP a round of applause for u




u re just trying to confuse ur self

plaetton:


This op did not simply pull these things out of his bottom.
He included passages in the bible to show what Jesus said and how Paul clearly contradicted Jesus.

Just Suppose that Paul and his teachings represent the anti-christ.
Wouldn't that be of concern to you that you might have been following the false teachings of the anti-christ all your life?

Just something for you to ponder.

Sexytemi:


yes oooooooo
and a big Amen o.

omonuan:


Any right thinking Christian should easily decipher Paul's anti Christian Doctrine. Don't blame Aribasala for Paul's malfeasance. Paul was in competition with Christ and he has succeeded in confusing many:

Galatians 4:14King James Version (KJV)

"And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus."

Christ says:

Matthew 24:4-5King James Version (KJV)

"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

omonuan:


Paul wanted people to follow him instead of following Christ:

1 Corinthians 4:16King James Version (KJV)

"Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me."

As opposed to what Christ said:

John 14:6King James Version (KJV)

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

I can see here that many of you are Paul followers and yet you call yourself Christians.