Charlesdonald:
Announcement!!!Announcement!!!Announcement!!!


This is to invite the whole members of this thread to the christmas night Celebration(watch night) on the 24 of december and the Christmas mass on 25 of december At the ecumenical centre owerri




Come and be bless

What is the seating capacity of this Ecumenical Center ?

Imo State is a wonderful place to be

GOD BLESS ALA IGBO

ALA IMO STATE WU OBODO UKWU

asha80:
I wish extensive work is done on that industrial layout owerri off the express to encourage industrial outfits siting ttheir biz there.

Let us face reality. Imo is not an industrial State but what can be done is basic industrial establishment. The industrial layout in Owerri is well located and has better access road than those in Aba but industries keep springing up in Aba and many of them built by Imo indigenes. The only way Imo can industrialise is through the Nnewi model of people wisely siting industries in either their State or village but my question is whats the point? Since each Igbo State has its peculiarity and function let it remain so. Imo should forget factories and focus on hospitality, tourism and holiday industry that we are leading. Let Abia and Anambra continue being our industrial base.

Abagworo:


Let us face reality. Imo is not an industrial State but what can be done is basic industrial establishment. The industrial layout in Owerri is well located and has better access road than those in Aba but industries keep springing up in Aba and many of them built by Imo indigenes. The only way Imo can industrialise is through the Nnewi model of people wisely siting industries in either their State or village but my question is whats the point? Since each Igbo State has its peculiarity and function let it remain so. Imo should forget factories and focus on hospitality, tourism and holiday industry that we are leading. Let Abia and Anambra continue being our industrial base.

what are the tourist site in orlu and its environs?when you talk of hospitality I hope you do not mean the things happening around owerri?why should Imo not focus on industrial activities If it would help unemplyment?

asha80:
what are the tourist site in orlu and its environs?when you talk of hospitality I hope you do not mean the things happening around owerri?why should Imo not focus on industrial activities If it would help unemplyment?

I see it as being of no use having factories in every State since each has its peculiarities. Hospitality, tourism and Agricture creates far more jobs than manufacturing. Igboland is a block and everywhere has their specialization. Orlu for example is emerging as Nigeria's future pharmaceutical base. What Okorocha is doing is to create easy access to Orlu from Owerri and indigenes of Orlu area who are mostly into pharmaceuticals will be encouraged to site their industries in their respective villages. As for Owerri industrial layout, its future is bright.

Abagworo:


I see it as being of no use having factories in every State since each has its peculiarities. Hospitality, tourism and Agricture creates far more jobs than manufacturing. Igboland is a block and everywhere has their specialization. Orlu for example is emerging as Nigeria's future pharmaceutical base. What Okorocha is doing is to create easy access to Orlu from Owerri and indigenes of Orlu area who are mostly into pharmaceuticals will be encouraged to site their industries in their respective villages. As for Owerri industrial layout, its future is bright.

well orlu indigenes dissappoint me a bit because the number of pharmaceutical outfits in their town is not commensurate to their people in control of the pharmaceutical space..don't really know what is bright about owerri industrial layout unless there is a strategic plan to really develop it since owerri is not a preferred destination of industrial outfits.

Abagworo:


Let us face reality. Imo is not an industrial State but what can be done is basic industrial establishment. The industrial layout in Owerri is well located and has better access road than those in Aba but industries keep springing up in Aba and many of them built by Imo indigenes. The only way Imo can industrialise is through the Nnewi model of people wisely siting industries in either their State or village but my question is whats the point? Since each Igbo State has its peculiarity and function let it remain so. Imo should forget factories and focus on hospitality, tourism and holiday industry that we are leading. Let Abia and Anambra continue being our industrial base.

No place on earth is fundamentally created as "industrial site or state". Imo State could be transformed into industrial yard. In USA, deserts have been transformed into industrial hub. Please quit being unnecessarily condescending on this subject matter.

When one thinks of Miami or Las Vegas, there is some kind of joy it gives especially if you are well off or fun loving. Thats the feeli.g Owerri in paticular gives.

Abagworo:
When one thinks of Miami or Las Vegas, there is some kind of joy it gives especially if you are well off or fun loving. Thats the feeli.g Owerri in paticular gives.

nothing wrong with industrial activities existing side by side with this...as for agric I doubt that 'have you planted palm' mantra really achieved much.

asha80:
nothing wrong with industrial activities existing side by side with this...as for agric I doubt that 'have you planted palm' mantra really achieved much.

It depends on your level of awareness. Agriculture is not something you can notice if not into it. I have a friend who is so grateful to Okorocha for that palm awareness. He said he bought some fast yielding palm from Imo government at subsidised price and is today a millionaire. He was a job seeker as at 2011.

Abagworo:


It depends on your level of awareness. Agriculture is not something you can notice if not into it. I have a friend who is so grateful to Okorocha for that palm awareness. He said he bought some fast yielding palm from Imo government at subsidised price and is today a millionaire. He was a job seeker as at 2011.

WE NEED INDUSTRIES IN IMO STATE TO CATER FOR THE LARGE NUMBER OF GRADUATES LOOKING FOR JOB. SAYING IMO STATE DON'T NEED INDUSTRIES SHOWS LACK OF UNDERSTAND OF THE ECONOMIC SITUATION IN IMO STATE

RareDiamond:


WE NEED INDUSTRIES IN IMO STATE TO CATER FOR THE LARGE NUMBER OF GRADUATES LOOKING FOR JOB. SAYING IMO STATE DON'T NEED INDUSTRIES SHOWS LACK OF UNDERSTAND OF THE ECONOMIC SITUATION IN IMO STATE

Yes we do and it starts with you and I. However I will rather site my industry in Aba and my Hotel in Owerri and my oil servicing business in Port Harcourt. Thats my own understanding of the 3 cities and so is it for most of the people I know.

Abagworo:


Yes we do and it starts with you and I. However I will rather site my industry in Aba and my Hotel in Owerri and my oil servicing business in Port Harcourt. Thats my own understanding of the 3 cities and so is it for most of the people I know.

Imo State can accommodate all of them and they would still be very profitable

Abagworo:


Let us face reality. Imo is not an industrial State but what can be done is basic industrial establishment. The industrial layout in Owerri is well located and has better access road than those in Aba but industries keep springing up in Aba and many of them built by Imo indigenes. The only way Imo can industrialise is through the Nnewi model of people wisely siting industries in either their State or village but my question is whats the point? Since each Igbo State has its peculiarity and function let it remain so. Imo should forget factories and focus on hospitality, tourism and holiday industry that we are leading. Let Abia and Anambra continue being our industrial base.

I agree with you.

Imo state can be industrialized via a clear industrialization strategy.
Imo actually has everything to become an industrial hub. Good roads, a functional airport and closeness to a major seaport.

We need to create a Free Trade Zone along the Owerri -PH expressway at Obinze. Once the plots are demarcated and roads and electricity installed, we would begin an aggressive foreign investment drive as Obiano is currently doing in Anambra. Foreign companies looking for a way to begin manufacturing in Nigeria are offered free land and a few years of tax free holidays. Once any company CEO visits Owerri and see how accessible it is by air and road and the closeness to ONNE port for possible export of their product in the future, they will easily settle for Owerri as their site in Nigeria.

Thus Owerri industrialization must begin by securing an industrial site in the outskirts of the capital, developing it and then doing aggressive foreign direct investment drive.

[size=13pt]Agriculture is a good area to focus on in order to industrialize quickly.

Imo state gave Malaysia and Indonesia palm tree seedlings, which they have used to become rich countries and world leaders in palm oil and by-products produce. We must tap into our agricultural blessings and develop it into a business. We also have good weather for Rubber and Cocoa trees which we should exploit fully and build industries around those cash crops.
One of the reasons i am very happy with the falling oil price is that it cures us of the oil madness which has prevented investment in agriculture.

Palm oil can be canned in tins and exported, it can be used in soap making, additives to medications etc. Imo can always partner with investors willing to add value to our agricultural produce by packaging them well for export and internal consumption in Super-markets across Nigeria.

The Imo poultry at Avuru built by Dee Sam Mbakwe have been abandoned. What happened to getting a competent company to take it over, while the government will assist them in reviving it and producing frozen chicken and eggs for the entire SE and SS zone? These things aren't too hard to do if we have men of vision that understand Agriculture NOT OIL is the only way to bring our people into prosperity and maintain a high standard of living.[/size]

ChimaAdeoye:
[size=13pt]Agriculture is a good area to focus on in order to industrialize quickly.

Imo state gave Malaysia and Indonesia palm tree seedlings, which they have used to become rich countries and world leaders in palm oil and by-products produce. We must tap into our agricultural blessings and develop it into a business. We also have good weather for Rubber and Cocoa trees which we should exploit fully and build industries around those cash crops.
One of the reasons i am very happy with the falling oil price is that it cures us of the oil madness which has prevented investment in agriculture.

Palm oil can be canned in tins and exported, it can be used in soap making, additives to medications etc. Imo can always partner with investors willing to add value to our agricultural produce by packaging them well for export and internal consumption in Super-markets across Nigeria.

The Imo poultry at Avuru built by Dee Sam Mbakwe have been abandoned. What happened to getting a competent company to take it over, while the government will assist them in reviving it and producing frozen chicken and eggs for the entire SE and SS zone? These things aren't too hard to do if we have men of vision that understand Agriculture NOT OIL is the only way to bring our people into prosperity and maintain a high standard of living.[/size]

You are right

ChimaAdeoye:


I agree with you.

Imo state can be industrialized via a clear industrialization strategy.
Imo actually has everything to become an industrial hub. Good roads, a functional airport and closeness to a major seaport.

We need to create a Free Trade Zone along the Owerri -PH expressway at Obinze. Once the plots are demarcated and roads and electricity installed, we would begin an aggressive foreign investment drive as Obiano is currently doing in Anambra. Foreign companies looking for a way to begin manufacturing in Nigeria are offered free land and a few years of tax free holidays. Once any company CEO visits Owerri and see how accessible it is by air and road and the closeness to ONNE port for possible export of their product in the future, they will easily settle for Owerri as their site in Nigeria.

Thus Owerri industrialization must begin by securing an industrial site in the outskirts of the capital, developing it and then doing aggressive foreign direct investment drive.

A site at Onitsha-Owerri road has been existing before I was born and had good access roads then but people still did not build industries there for more than 30 years. The Anambra example you gave is just like Abia. The history of those region has always been industrial. That is why despite the obvious decay in infrastructure at Aba it still attracted the largest malting plant, the largest canning plant, geometric power, NEW guiness plant, expanded NBL plant etc.

Agriculture and hospitality is our best bet.

RareDiamond:


What is the seating capacity of this Ecumenical Center ?

about 10000 capacity

[size=16pt]Hydrocarbon based Industrialization[/size]

[size=13pt]Imo has commercial quantities of oil and gas. Which is currently being exported to other countries to create good jobs for their citizens while many Imo youths are forced to go to Lagos, PH, Abuja, Onitsha, Kano to seek a way to earn a living.

Now some of the small 10,000 bpd refineries in the world cost less than $10 -15 million dollars to build. This is about N5-6 billion naira, which Imo state can easily afford in one fiscal year's budget!!! Why can't we build a refinery near one of our major oil wells and simply purchase the crude from the company extracting crude from the site to feed our refinery.
Then build a type of NNPC mega station outside the refinery so that the refined petroleum products can be sold to trailers for the filling stations in the SE and SS?
This alone will create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs in Imo state. So why can't we do it? Why must we wait for Shell, Dangote or FG to build key factories we know that are critical for our survival?

This is part of the reason whitemen call us poor people living in the midst of plenty.[/size]

ChimaAdeoye:
[size=16pt]Hydrocarbon based Industrialization[/size]

[size=13pt]Imo has commercial quantities of oil and gas. Which is currently being exported to other countries to create good jobs for their citizens while many Imo youths are forced to go to Lagos, PH, Abuja, Onitsha, Kano to seek a way to earn a living.

Now some of the small 10,000 bpd refineries in the world cost less than $10 -15 million dollars to build. This is about N5-6 billion naira, which Imo state can easily afford in one fiscal year's budget!!! Why can we build a refinery near one of our major oil wells and simply purchase the crude from the company extracting crude from the site to feed our refinery.

Then build a type of NNPC mega station outside the refinery so that the refined petroleum products can be sold to trailers for the filling stations? This alone will create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs in Imo state. So why can't we do it? Why must we wait for Shell, Dangote or FG to build key factories we know that are critical for our survival? This is part of the reason whitemen call us poor people living in the midst of plenty.[/size]

govts do not run biz let alone something like refinery...how are govt owned refineries doing in Nigeria?

asha80:
govts do not run biz let alone something like refinery...how are govt owned refineries doing in Nigeria?

Very true.
But government can attract companies that run such business, give them all the enabling tools and sign an MUO to have 40% of the shares of the company. In this way, the private experts run the facility without government control and government get dividend for their investment. It's a win win situation. Why can't we make that arrangement?

NNPC joint ventures are exactly that way. Left alone, NNPC cannot extract one spoon of oil talkless of one cup of oil.
Imo can set up her own oil minerals development company that does precisely what NNPC is doing on behalf of the FG, in helping private companies to set up and maintain a 40% share in those companies for the state government.

Charlesdonald:
about 10000 capacity

to be honest I do not really see why govt should be involved in building such..anyway rochas knows why.

ChimaAdeoye:


Very true.
But government can attract companies that run such business, give them all the enabling tools and sign an MUO to have 40% of the shares of the company. In this way, the private experts run the facility without government control and government get dividend for their investment. It's a win win situation. Why can't we make that arrangement?

NNPC joint ventures are exactly that way. Left alone, NNPC cannot extract one cup of oil.
Imo can set up her own oil minerals development company that does precisely what NNPC is doing in helping private companies to set up and maintain a 40% share in those companies for the state government.

well I cant say why?

ChimaAdeoye:
[size=16pt]Hydrocarbon based Industrialization[/size]

[size=13pt]Imo has commercial quantities of oil and gas. Which is currently being exported to other countries to create good jobs for their citizens while many Imo youths are forced to go to Lagos, PH, Abuja, Onitsha, Kano to seek a way to earn a living.

Now some of the small 10,000 bpd refineries in the world cost less than $10 -15 million dollars to build. This is about N5-6 billion naira, which Imo state can easily afford in one fiscal year's budget!!! Why can't we build a refinery near one of our major oil wells and simply purchase the crude from the company extracting crude from the site to feed our refinery.
Then build a type of NNPC mega station outside the refinery so that the refined petroleum products can be sold to trailers for the filling stations in the SE and SS?
This alone will create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs in Imo state. So why can't we do it? Why must we wait for Shell, Dangote or FG to build key factories we know that are critical for our survival?

This is part of the reason whitemen call us poor people living in the midst of plenty.[/size]

That is why Jonathan has to leave for Nigeria to be emancipated. The FG deliberately blocked refineries from functioning and prevented private investors just because of subsidy stealing and other acts of corruption.

Under Mbadinuju tenure in Anambra State the concept of Orient refinery was conceived but 15 years later it remains an uncompleted project because FG is frustrating all attempts to build refineries. If Nigeria is sincere, it takes 6months to build a refinery of the capacitt you mentioned and is affordable by few individuals.

Charlesdonald:
about 10000 capacity

10,000 Gini!? I pray!!...... for that Small House? where they want stay. ontop roof abi? no dey lie abeg!

Nedu09:


10,000 Gini!? I pray!!...... for that Small House? where they want stay. ontop roof abi? no dey abeg!

It looks small but it might be larger than it looks. I almost thought the capacity would be around 2000

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Abagworo:


That is why Jonathan has to leave for Nigeria to be emancipated. The FG deliberately blocked refineries from functioning and prevented private investors just because of subsidy stealing and other acts of corruption.

Bro,
Your post above is why "I hate to interact with Nigerians in the US"

We love to say things without regard to the facts and then confuse everyone into thinking that ideas cannot be achieved because of lies they have manufactured to make cheap political gains with every issue.

To begin with, Jonathan is the 1st Nigerian leader that has supported massive private investment in the downstream oil sector.Under GEJ, Dangote was given license to build $4.5 billion dollars refinery refining up to 770,000 bpd. Which should make Nigeria a net exporter of fuel. Orient too got all the administrative support under GEJ. Which Obasanjo had hiterto decided to frustrate by not giving all the necessary approvals. Nigeria is a very corrupt complex place. Most of the thieve now in APC you are rooting for, are the same exact criminals that killed our refineries, started refined crude importation and created a network of wealthy crooks as fuel dealers importing petrol into Nigeria.These wealthy crooks are working with powerful people at DPR to make sure our refineries will never work even if government invests 100 trillion dollars in them, simply to force the FG to continue fuel importation and paying subsidies. To cut off their lifeline and remove incentive to continue fuel importation, Jonathan decided to stop fuel subsidies.

I know one of the things Jonathan did as President was to remove such illegal subsidies to plug that hole created by his predecessors to loot the government. But the same corrupt politicians and thieves that have now decamped to APC convinced gullible Nigerians to keep protesting for almost 2 whole weeks and in the end, Jonathan had to back down and reinstate the illegal subsidy. You will pretend to have forgotten this history because it doesn't suit the narrative of your APC goons and criminals, but that is the fact.

Abagworo, I am not here to try to twist fact which we all clearly know, i am here to raise ideas to help our dear Imo state become a true industrial giant using her own raw materials.

asha80:
to be honest I do not really see why govt should be involved in building such..anyway rochas knows why.

he is the one who pioneered the building of national ecumenical center Abuja,because of that he wanted to replicate it in owerri

Nedu09:


10,000 Gini!? I pray!!...... for that Small House? where they want stay. ontop roof abi? no dey lie abeg!

bros go hug transformer if e dey pain u say e rich....if u die na who e even consign nonsense