coogar:
i am starting to feel sorry for dark-skinned women. when a white man doesn't want them, they scream racism. what is the excuse now that the black men are starting to look across the racial line to procreate?

stillfire, i am selling bleaching cream. 60% discount for you.

Lol, I'm too old to be insecure, go and sell your bleaching cream to teenagers.
I am a beautiful confident woman. That is why I can tell myself hard truths.

crackhaus:

Tribalism goes much deeper, but skin tone just like beauty is only skin deep.
Now while the former is innately cultural, the latter is pure vanity

That's the difference.

Says who?

How skin tone is skin deep to you is how tribalism would be skin deep to them

crackhaus:
It might as well be our (Africans) struggle, haven't you all be saying that we (Nigerians) also prefer light skin women over darker shade?
So it's something we can relate to.

Nigerian prefer lighter skinned however, it is just that. It has not grown to a cause for worry yet.

crackhaus:
And err, black men don't hate on black women who marry other races...neither do black men hate on other black men of lighter shade.

Says?

Stillfire:

Lol, I'm too old to be insecure, go and sell your bleaching cream to teenagers.
I am a beautiful confident woman. That is why I can tell myself hard truths.

why won't you be confident? your profile picture showed a light skinned woman. what if you had been born with lupita's skin? would you be confident?

Setaje:

So when men act like skin colour doesn't matter. I just laugh. It doesn't matter yet in Bella naija. Out of 10 weddings in a month, just notice how majority of the girls are fair skinned wiv very dark and handsome guys or its a coincidence that almost every bank marketer is fair. Hhahahahhahahahahhahah. Lmao. It is well. Let me not generalise. Like I said there are still people and organisations who look beyond the skin complexion.

It really doesn't matter, madam. If the woman is bleaching her daughter, it's for her own benefit(read: ego) not her daughter's. That woman has been possessed by the demon of low self-esteem and needs deliverance. I favour dark skinned women but will quickly chat up a good-looking light-skinned woman.

Anybody who has to lighten their skin to look beautiful has self-esteem issues. It's not the fault of the world. Just because people love and respect rich people inordinately doesn't justify a life of crime.

coogar:


there are more appealing things on a female body part than her skin. i don't care about skin colour as long as she's pretty. the face is my top priority.

Oui, monsieur. For me, the face can be like 6, but the body must be expertly-constructed.

Timbuktou:
Bukatyne, you're saying Kendrick hasn't stayed true to his brand and I ask, how so? Just because Kendrick favours dark balck doesn't mean he can't get it on with light black. There's nothing to talk about there, really.

I said that is the activist's problem with Kendrick.

If he left his light skinned babe for a dark skinned one, it would be an issue for me.

because Kendrick favours dark black doesn't mean he can't get it on with light black

True however we need to understand if he was saying 'dark black is also cool' or 'dark black is the only cool'

I would not fault him for getting on with light skinned, she came first; I will fault his message

Setaje:



I've gone to such weddings a lot. Wiv the mc telling the dark dude he did the right thing marrying a light skinned woman cus of their children. A friend of mine blotted one statement when we were arguing on this same issue. She said she prays her daughters will not take her husband's dark colour. They should be fair so they can sell market. . Sell which market. I have known this girl for a long time suddenly it seemed I did not no her again after that statement. I also no of a woman who was using bleaching cream on her dark daughter. To the extent that green veins started appearing on the side of her face. So when men act like skin colour doesn't matter. I just laugh. It doesn't matter yet in Bella naija. Out of 10 weddings in a month, just notice how majority of the girls are fair skinned wiv very dark and handsome guys or its a coincidence [size=14pt]that almost every bank marketer is fair[/size]. Hhahahahhahahahahhahah. Lmao. It is well. Let me not generalise. Like I said there are still people and organisations who look beyond the skin complexion.

Setaje say it loud and clear.
Black men will lie and lie they don't have any colorism issue, but we know the truth.
If we as Nigerians were concerned about race, Nigerian women would have done worse than AA women.
Can Victor Olaiya release Omo pupa in an AA community and not get a back lash from the women?
I remember delta soap creating a calendar and all the women were light skinned. As a Nigerian child then, I did not even notice any conscious effort to have only light people on the calendar in a COUNTRY POPULATED BY DARK SKINNED PEOPLE . It was a marketing tactic to tell women that if you use delta soap your skin will be light. Mind you delta soap is not a bleaching agent, but it preyed on what the society considered as beautiful.

Timbuktou:
Oui, monsieur. For me, the face can be like 6, but the body must be expertly-constructed.

8 and above for me.
the face of my partner must constantly stir my sėx drive. the curves & the whatnot is secondary to me.

Stillfire:
Can Victor Olaiya release Omo pupa in an AA community and not get a back lash from the women?

victor olaiya doesn't speak for every black man. he just sang about his preference - just like most women wouldn't date a vertically challenged man. it's just his preference.

cococandy:


@bold, If only.

Lols!

bukatyne:


And besides, your topic doesnot correlate to the OP.

In what way, if I may ask?

coogar:


AA women care o.
the light skinned women have taken their jobs as video honeys. this trend is also spreading to africa. all our music stars now fly to south africa to shoot their music videos to showcase the mixed race women or the light skinned black women.

I meant that black men don't care what shade of man MJB or Beyonce uses in their videos.

It's black women who care what shade of woman Trigga or Tyrese uses in theirs.

cococandy:


@bold it is the same thing. Especially for short men. That's why I don't say anything when I hear them complain.
They didn't create themselves, and you can't really force anyone to like a short man if she doesn't but it is unfair to try and shut a short man up for ranting against the 'injustice'

I agree we should all work to improve ourselves no matter what the physical shortcoming may be

Short men must surely overcome - read from paragraph 2

https://www.nairaland.com/1490399/think-need-some-genuine-please#19067631


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bukatyne:


I said that is the activist's problem with Kendrick.

If he left his light skinned babe for a dark skinned one, it would be an issue for me.

because Kendrick favours dark black doesn't mean he can't get it on with light black

True however we need to understand if he was saying 'dark black is also cool' or 'dark black is the only cool'

I would not fault him for getting on with light skinned, she came first; I will fault his message

Kendrick loves black, either light or dark. And he's chosen loyalty over all else and I respect that.
However, even if he left the black community and ventured into mulatto, yellow or white, I wouldn't have been the least bit bothered. Because, one can love something and find that the thing isn't a pragmatic element to their existence. It's that simple to me.

coogar:


why won't you be confident? your profile picture showed a light skinned woman. what if you had been born with lupita's skin? would you be confident?

That is my sister. I was born with Lupita's skin, black shiny black. I was not brought up to hate myself or limit who I date.

crackhaus:

I meant that black men don't care what shade of man MJB or Beyonce uses in their videos.

It's black women who care what shade of woman Trigga or Tyrese uses in theirs.

i don't even notice - my attention span is on the waxed thighs & the humongous bòobs.

Stillfire:

That is my sister. I was born with Lupita's skin, black shiny black. I was not brought up to hate myself or limit who I date.

if your sister is that fair then i don't need to make any further guesses. you couldn't have been born with a lupita skin with a sister like yours.

cococandy:
The vast majority of black men prefer black women? Well..... Maybe. But in the pool of black women,they prefer the lighter skins from what I have seen.
And it has really nothing much to do with behavior or attitudes like some would like to imply. They just plain ol' prefer creamy shades. That's why I understand where that lady is coming from.

People like njokuboy should leave her alone. You can't beat a child and ask it not to cry .
.

Nope she should leave black men to marry who they choose... nd it's njokusboy, else I won't see d mention

pickabeau1:


lol... there are issues

The black man nd woman need change.. that's the truth

Some men have abdicated their responsibility as authorities in the family which has led to the ascendance of 'strong black women' - filled with anger and hate

Some idolize the white woman look and make themselves bleached, burn their curly hair or use attachments all to hide their God given beauty

Some equate strength to being mouthed and rude all over the place

One can go on... The matter no go end today

True
Although colour is not a "prime directive" for me, there are undoubtedly serious pathologies in some black communities and nations. And as such co-opting "alien" notions does not necessarily help if not done smartly and with - dare I say it - proper "consciousness.

My main thrust - as ever - is always to exhort men to stand.


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coogar:


8 and above for me.
the face of my partner must constantly stir my sėx drive. the curves & the whatnot is secondary to me.



victor olaiya doesn't speak for every black man. he just sang about his preference - just like most women wouldn't date a vertically challenged man. it's just his preference.

Ol boy, the mounds and lumps hold greater value for me.

The person who mentioned Victor Olaiya forgot to mention Fela's "Yellow Fever".

And like you said, it's a preference thing. This androphobic skank should go home already.

cococandy:
I've even heard that severally. 'Ah at least you're light skin, your children have hope ' seriously? Hope for what? For light skin?
You will see some folks joke about how this newly wedded couple are both so dark,their kids will be like charcoal. And to us that's bad
They really don't mean any harm when they say it but it feeds a subconscious insecurity among dark women.

It is really unfair to dark and black people as a whole because even a negro albino is a black person and such things collectively insult all of us.

Now u said it

Chai see how you people have finished us darkies on this thread. take it easy on us naa.


But stillfire is correct though on how black people see lighter skinned people as ' finer' .God knows how many people I have had to shut up from saying my son is cuter than my daughter ( I don't want all those kain inferiority complex inducing talks around my child ).

Even me ,I get from supposedly educated people o ' I thought you would be lighter now that you live in the UK'

#teamdarkiesarebeautiful

That said one can't choose who another person will have a preference for. That's why it's called choice.

Stillfire:


Setaje say it loud and clear.
Black men will lie and lie they don't have any colorism issue, but we know the truth.
If we as Nigerians were concerned about race, Nigerian women would have done worse than AA women.
Can Victor Olaiya release Omo pupa in an AA community and not get a back lash from the women?
I remember delta soap creating a calendar and all the women were light skinned. As a Nigerian child then, I did not even notice any conscious effort to have only light people on the calendar in a COUNTRY POPULATED BY DARK SKINNED PEOPLE . It was a marketing tactic to tell women that if you use delta soap your skin will be light. Mind you delta soap is not a bleaching agent, but it preyed on what the society considered as beautiful.

if there is constant pressure on blacks to lighten their skin, that should tell you there is not necessarily an overall preference for light skin.

coogar:


8 and above for me.
the face of my partner must constantly stir my sėx drive. the curves & the whatnot is secondary to me.



victor olaiya doesn't speak for every black man. he just sang about his preference - just like most women wouldn't date a vertically challenged man. it's just his preference.

If there were means to increase in height, men would. Men do everything within their power to increase pe.nis size to make themselves more attractive to their mates. Is it not you nigerian men I saw in one video changing the color of their lips to pink because Nigerian women like pink lips. Buhahaha. The thing about Victor Olaiya is that it would not have been ignored in the AA community instead Nigerian women shook their big butts to it and bleached.

Anyway, black women give up. Let the men enjoy. You can't be putting yourselves out there for ridicule.

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A friend of mine blotted one statement when we were arguing on this same issue. She said she prays her daughters will not take her husband's dark colour. They should be fair so they can sell market.

I guess she married her dark skinned husband because of husband shortage?

No light skin guys proposed to her?

Stillfire:


To be light is a compliment in our community and seen as a beauty yardstick in the universe and in the same breath you say it is not preferred? Hahaha. TV you can do better than this. I am here to tell black women the truth, so that peace can reign in their hearts.
My biggest enemy is the one who insults me o, if not for the law black men will kill black women. I no dey do any pseudo intellectualism. The person that insults me at every given breath is my enemy. And that is the black man.

No Stilly, not a yardstick - just one measure And it does not necessarily dictate overall preference for many men - even amongst those that may have it as one indicator.

A darker skinned women who presents well will not be unduly hindered by her skin tone - if Rashida was woo'ed by a white man - I know, fat chance (and again ) - would she be duty /ideologically bound to reject him?

We don't abuse "our women" - we correct them in love


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coogar:


i don't even notice - my attention span is on the waxed thighs & the humongous bòobs.



if your sister is that fair then i don't need to make any further guesses. you couldn't have been born with a lupita skin with a sister like yours.

Hehehe,

Black women with black attitudes...

njokusboy:


(1. womanism / Black feminism is feminism with a racial edge, they actually felt feminism ignored oppression based on race and class.
"there is a long standing and important alliances between post-colonial feminists with transactional feminism and third-world feminism. both have struggled for recognition not only from men in their own culture but also from western feminists .All these are just a subset of feminism, the underlying ideologies are basically the same.

(1.) At its core, womanism rejects feminism because it is set up in a way as to promote the issues of white women over the issues of Black women. Hudson-Weems argues that feminism will never be okay for black women due to the implications of slavery and prejudice. She further asserts that the relationship between a Black man and a Black woman is significantly different from the relationship between a White man and a White woman, because the white woman battles the white man for subjugating her, but the black women battles all oppressive forces that subjugate her, her children, and the black man. She further asserts that racism forced African-American men and African-American women to assume unconventional gender roles. In this context, the desire of mainstream feminism to dismantle traditional gender roles becomes inapplicable to the black experience. Womanism is an ideology designed specifically with women of African descent in mind. It is grounded in African culture and focuses on the unique struggles, needs, and desires of African women. Based on this reasoning, Africana Womanism posits race and class based oppression as far more significant than gender-based oppression.

Womanism is not a subset of feminism just the same way MRM (Men's Right Movement) is not a subset of feminism!


(2.)OMG! Please tell me that you're not arguing with me that there is no white privilege or light skin privilege? Please tell me you're not that fvcking blind/ignorant?

Lupita no fine sha.... I don't care how una see am

bukatyne:


Says who?

How skin tone is skin deep to you is how tribalism would be skin deep to them

Lol, there's just no correlation between what tribalism is to us as a reference for what skin tone is to them.
The best correlation should be racism as against tribalism.

My point is this, the dark-skin AA woman is also hating on the light-skin AA woman - this is her vanity at work, borne out of her dwindling esteem and self-hate.

Nigerian prefer lighter skinned however, it is just that. It has not grown to a cause for worry yet.

It has not grown to a cause for worry because one dark Nigerian woman has not gone on the internet to voice her displeasure?

Well she doesn't have to, because the bleaching and use of skin-whitening/lightening creams by majority of Nigerian women is enough proof that they're worried.

Says?

Says me.

damiso:
Chai see how you people have finished us darkies on this thread. take it easy on us naa.


But stillfire is correct though on how black people see lighter skinned people as ' finer' .God knows how many people I have had to shut up from saying my son is cuter than my daughter ( I don't want all those kain inferiority complex inducing talks around my child ).

Even me ,I get from supposedly educated people o ' I thought you would be lighter now that you live in the UK'

#teamdarkiesarebeautiful

That said one can't choose who another person will have a preference for. That's why it's called choice.

...how far Dami?

One of the minor reasons I kinda wanted a second son was because my boy is so cute, I didn't think we'd be so blessed again and I figured a not so handsome man can always compensate in other ways.

We also "agreed" that if it was per chance a girl, it should look like her mum. Any girl that looks like me go suffer - no matter how light skinned .

Funnily enough, she's a stunner - yes I know, I have to say that - looks similar to her brother, and the real surprise; she's quite light skinned? Let me just call madam to make sure she keeps her out of the sun !


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coogar:

i don't even notice - my attention span is on the waxed thighs & the humongous bòobs.

Whose waxed thighs and humongous b00bs?

You wonder why we Africans and all the black race in the world is languishing in poverty.

Inferiority complex and hating yourself.

Have you seen if white people have this issues especially considering some are pale some are dark and all tints of white.

Poverty for sure is a mental disease.