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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:05pm On Apr 27, 2015
MikeCZAR:
You mean civilian radars?

Which Cessna pilots can evade by flying low?

Same Thales radar South Africa uses for 500 km range, except that Nigeria's version is year 2010 and more modern.

Cessna is a harmless toy propeller plane, it has no weapons.

Try fly low altitude in your Cessna through a THALES RSM 970.....on your way coming at low level evasion tactics (an evasion that will not work) , Nigerian army SA-7, Shilka, and Type 90 AAA will use y.ou for target practice....even Boko Haram will roast your Cessna propeller toy.

Ordinary Browing 50 cal machine gun on a Toyota will consume your Cessna in a war zone. Fool grin

You think war is a video game? Y.ou will just die young !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Means from 500 km range away, NAF will detect all Gripen and Hawk jets with our Thales RSM 970 S Monopulse Mode S Secondary Radars, then F-7 jets and Alpha jets will be intercepting SAAF at 200 km away even before you can dream of dropping any Umbani bomb.

I have told you guys that fighting a country like Nigeria that has 60 jet fighters, is different from fighting Lesotho and Swaziland.

You won't even get a chance to face Nigerian army Roland.....NAF will meet your jets air to air before you approach Nigerian air space, our new THALES Radars will be seeing the inside of your own air space as soon as your jets take off from ground.

What do you think Nigeria is? Burundi republic?
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"F-7 jets and Alpha jets will be intercepting SAAF"
Dude! your F-7s dont even stand a chance against our retired Cheetah Cs never mind a Gripen!

"Nigeria that has 60 jet fighters"
And every single one is an obsolete piece of shiitt, were as SAAF has 50 state-of-the-art Combat aircraft jets!

"What do you think Nigeria is? Burundi republic?"
Yes.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Same Thales radar South Africa uses for 500 km range, except that Nigeria's version is year 2010 and more modern.

Cessna is a harmless toy propeller plane, it has no weapons.

Try fly low altitude in your Cessna through a THALES RSM 970.....on your way coming at low level evasion tactics (an evasion that will not work) , Nigerian army SA-7, Shilka, and Type 90 AAA will use y.ou for target practice....even Boko Haram will roast your Cessna propeller toy.

Ordinary Browing 50 cal machine gun on a Toyota will consume your Cessna in a war zone. Fool grin

You think war is a video game? Y.ou will just die young !
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I think you do mate!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:08pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Same Thales radar South Africa uses for 500 km range, except that Nigeria's version is year 2010 and more modern.

Cessna is a harmless toy propeller plane, it has no weapons.

Try fly low altitude in your Cessna through a THALES RSM 970.....on your way coming at low level evasion tactics (an evasion that will not work) , Nigerian army SA-7, Shilka, and Type 90 AAA will use y.ou for target practice....even Boko Haram will roast your Cessna propeller toy.

Ordinary Browing 50 cal machine gun on a Toyota will consume your Cessna in a war zone. Fool grin

You think war is a video game? Y.ou will just die young !
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How is being bought in 2010 mean it is more modern? You do know we have been upgrading them over the years.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:10pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Sure, we are dancing below....Andrewza tried to rescue you and I will make him share your humble pie as I force-feed you both grin grin



Thank you for proving that Cuba captured South African air defence missile syatem and called it useless grin

It's Crotale or Cactus SAM used by SADF nad it is useless, well Nigeris does NOT use Cactus SAM....we use Roland. Sorry about y.our bad luck.

The Cactus in SADF was Thompson CFS radar ordered in 1964 ancient times....useless.

The Roland uses Siemens-Thompson CFS D and J radars of 1978.....not 1964 Thompson, notice the Siemens name and the D & J variant codes on the Roland radar.

You see why I call you a navy cook? You cannot even differentiate between old and modern radar versions that are 14 years different in tech.
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Like any air defence system it has two radars.

A search or target acquisition radar and a tracking or fire control radar.

1. Thompson-CSF D-Band pulse doppler radar: Is the search radar.

2. Thompson-CSF J-band monopulse doppler radar: is the fire control radar.

Come get this humble!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10pm On Apr 27, 2015
andrewza:


How do you know it was fired at only 3 targets. The harrier lost was solo and on a recce.


Harrier on recce? Armed with bombs and attacking an airport. What is recce ? You don't really know.

I don't care, the Harrier attacked and the Roland destroyed it. RAF never came bask with jet fighters to that same airport .....fear of Roland....go ask your British masters in London air force base
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:12pm On Apr 27, 2015
andrewza:
. 1 GDF got 3 kills and knocked out 1 .

Show me source for GDF kills in Falkland war....details of jets shot down
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:13pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Same Thales radar South Africa uses for 500 km range, except that Nigeria's version is year 2010 and more modern.

Cessna is a harmless toy propeller plane, it has no weapons.

Try fly low altitude in your Cessna through a THALES RSM 970.....on your way coming at low level evasion tactics (an evasion that will not work) , Nigerian army SA-7, Shilka, and Type 90 AAA will use y.ou for target practice....even Boko Haram will roast your Cessna propeller toy.

Ordinary Browing 50 cal machine gun on a Toyota will consume your Cessna in a war zone. Fool grin

You think war is a video game? Y.ou will just die young !
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South Africa is the electronic technology capital of Africa. Do not confuse thales with the French company
Our technology is improved and advanced over time by local suppliers. So beware.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:17pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Same Thales radar South Africa uses for 500 km range, except that Nigeria's version is year 2010 and more modern.

Cessna is a harmless toy propeller plane, it has no weapons.

Try fly low altitude in your Cessna through a THALES RSM 970.....on your way coming at low level evasion tactics (an evasion that will not work) , Nigerian army SA-7, Shilka, and Type 90 AAA will use y.ou for target practice....even Boko Haram will roast your Cessna propeller toy.

Ordinary Browing 50 cal machine gun on a Toyota will consume your Cessna in a war zone. Fool grin

You think war is a video game? Y.ou will just die young !
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Civilian radar. Which a Cessna pilot can evade.

Which can also be easily jammed?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:18pm On Apr 27, 2015
andrewza:


You mean fly out to get shot down? Those radars would all so be the first targets in any air war.

In war, everybody is a target including you.

Is it all targets that get destroyed in war, every man and equipment eventually gets destroyed, nothing survives, you use nuclear bomb?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:28pm On Apr 27, 2015
SA is known to be one of the best countries in electronic. warfare technology development. Even the likes of america will find it hard to fight in the airspace of SA, since their their avionics will be attacked electronically. We attack your Radio communication, warning system, radar detection and all.


Denel looks forward to advance the SA electronic warfare system by joining with other partners.


http://www.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141810

http://www.denel.co.za/press-article/New-Alliance-To-Boost-South-AfricasElectronic-Warfare-Capabilities/83

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:33pm On Apr 27, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Like any air defence system it has two radars.

A search or target acquisition radar and a tracking or fire control radar.

1. Thompson-CSF D-Band pulse doppler radar: Is the search radar.

2. Thompson-CSF J-band monopulse doppler radar: is the fire control radar.

Come get this humble!

Let me beat up both Mike and Andrew on same page .....one blow....two casualties grin

andrewza:


Did you read the links. It all so used J band radars.

None where captured, they where never deployed out side nambia.

How was Cuba inspecting your SADF Cactus if they did not capture it? You gave your enemy your missile system as free Christmas gift?

Only you South African dullards think Germany and France were using a 1964 radar on their Rolands in 1985 to 2005. You fools grin

J Band or D band, SADF had 1960s Thompson radars. Nigeria has 1980s Siemens-Thompson radar. They are different.

Proof....SADF Thompson radar of 1964 is an older weaker version with 4.5 km altitude :

In July 1964, South Africa placed a development contract with the French company, Thomson-Houston (later Thomson-CSF) for a mobile, all-weather, low-altitude surface-to-air missile system. Mounted on the top of the vehicle is a Thomson-CSF pulse Doppler radar with fixed-echo suppression which rotates at 60 rpm and has a maximum detection range of 18.5 km against low-level targets with speeds of between 35 and 440 m/s and altitude limits between zero and 4,500 m .

Nigerian Roland radar is newer and more powerful, more sophisticated, it has 5.5 km or 5,500 m altitude

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Sorry loser, South Africa bought a useless type of 1960s radar and Cuban boy soldiers captured your air defences to examine it in their laboratory....what a humiliation tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:35pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Show me source for GDF kills in Falkland war....details of jets shot down
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These are the kills confirmed by the British government.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:39pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


How was Cuba inspecting your SADF Cactus if they did not capture it? You gave your enemy your missile system as free Christmas gift?

Only you South African dullards think Germany and France were using a 1964 radar on their Rolands in 1985 to 2005. You fools grin

J Band or D band, SADF had 1960s Thompson radars. Nigeria has 1980s Siemens-Thompson radar. They are different.

Proof....SADF Thompson radar of 1964 is an older weaker version with 4.5 km altitude :

In July 1964, South Africa placed a development contract with the French company, Thomson-Houston (later Thomson-CSF) for a mobile, all-weather, low-altitude surface-to-air missile system. Mounted on the top of the vehicle is a Thomson-CSF pulse Doppler radar with fixed-echo suppression which rotates at 60 rpm and has a maximum detection range of 18.5 km against low-level targets with speeds of between 35 and 440 m/s and altitude limits between zero and 4,500 m .

Nigerian Roland radar is newer and more powerful, more sophisticated, it has 5.5 km or 5,500 m altitude

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Sorry loser, South Africa bought a useless type of 1960s radar and Cuban boy soldiers captured your air defences to examine it in their laboratory....what a humiliation tongue tongue
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Such systems are old agaugust and well somewhere there and there will take a lucky shot and shoot down a target, but they are unreliable to use in the 21st century.

This man is calling something of the 70s newer


Run as fast as you can and buy akash because your air defence technology is compromised.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:41pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


How was Cuba inspecting your SADF Cactus if they did not capture it? You gave your enemy your missile system as free Christmas gift?

Only you South African dullards think Germany and France were using a 1964 radar on their Rolands in 1985 to 2005. You fools grin

J Band or D band, SADF had 1960s Thompson radars. Nigeria has 1980s Siemens-Thompson radar. They are different.

Proof....SADF Thompson radar of 1964 is an older weaker version with 4.5 km altitude :

In July 1964, South Africa placed a development contract with the French company, Thomson-Houston (later Thomson-CSF) for a mobile, all-weather, low-altitude surface-to-air missile system. Mounted on the top of the vehicle is a Thomson-CSF pulse Doppler radar with fixed-echo suppression which rotates at 60 rpm and has a maximum detection range of 18.5 km against low-level targets with speeds of between 35 and 440 m/s and altitude limits between zero and 4,500 m .

Nigerian Roland radar is newer and more powerful, more sophisticated, it has 5.5 km or 5,500 m altitude

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Sorry loser, South Africa bought a useless type of 1960s radar and Cuban boy soldiers captured your air defences to examine it in their laboratory....what a humiliation tongue tongue
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They was there opinion based on what they knew. None ever left for a combat zone. They where found wantining.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:41pm On Apr 27, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Shared information. What a Gripen can see others will see.

Maritime search radar.

Nothing scary or special. The radar on the SAAF Super Lynx helicopters has a range of 350km+.

NAF ATR-42 maritime radar did perfectly well in ground battlefield intelligence, detecting human beings and vehicles, your Super Lynx has nothing close to the full range of equipment loaded inside a whole aeroplane cabin like the NAF ATR-42....you compare a tiny helicopter to a huge aircraft loaded with ELINT stuff and ESM stuff ?

Show us the interior command and control console of your Super Lynx and let us count how many intelligence/surveillance analysis computers you have inside your tiny toy grin

See Nigeria below....ATR-42 ....no comparison in Africa...
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:46pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


NAF ATR-42 maritime radar did perfectly well in ground battlefield intelligence, detecting human beings and vehicles, your Super Lynx has nothing close to the full range of equipment loaded inside a whole aeroplane cabin like the NAF ATR-42....you compare a tiny helicopter to a huge aircraft loaded with ELINT stuff and ESM stuff ?

Show us the interior command and control console of your Super Lynx and let us count how many intelligence/surveillance analysis computers you have inside your tiny toy grin

See Nigeria below....ATR-42 ....no comparison in Africa...
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Your ATR-42 will not help you against gripen and instead only one gripen will jam the whole system and crash it to the ground.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:47pm On Apr 27, 2015
FighterPilot:


You only have 60 useless aircrafts.

I see 50 useless SAAF aircraft, including 26 Gripens that share 25 missiles among themselves.....world record uselessness grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:50pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


I see 50 useless SAAF aircraft, including 26 Gripens that share 25 missiles among themselves.....world record uselessness grin grin
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You don't have a single modern fighter jet.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:56pm On Apr 27, 2015
jln115:

"F-7 jets and Alpha jets will be intercepting SAAF"
Dude! your F-7s dont even stand a chance against our retired Cheetah Cs never mind a Gripen!

"Nigeria that has 60 jet fighters"
And every single one is an obsolete piece of shiitt, were as SAAF has 50 state-of-the-art Combat aircraft jets!

"What do you think Nigeria is? Burundi republic?"
Yes.

Nigeria has 20 Alpha jets all upgraded to 2013 modern European standard and 2014 American standard. The American versions fire PGMs.

11 F-7 jets with year 2005 radar and avionics, and a deadly modern PL-9C missile.

MBB 339 are in Italy for upgrade.

L-39 Albatross has Czech upgrade in the last decade.

Hawk jets have no radar and are just trainers in light ground attack role. The pilots have ZERO air to ground combat experience on the Hawks.

South Africa has 9 Gripen pilots not combat qualified but manageable to fly air show at Mandela's funeral only.

The radar on the Gripen are 1995 era...20 years obsolete Gripen radars.

SAAF Gripens have less than 1 missile for each jet aircraft...approximately 0.98 missiles per jet.

If I need an air force for a comedy show, I will hire South African air force.....your combat status will make the world to laugh !

South Africa is in same bucket with Malawi according to United Nations military rankings released in Congo DRC
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:01pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria has 20 Alpha jets all upgraded to 2013 modern European standard and 2014 American standard. The American versions fire PGMs.

11 F-7 jets with year 2005 radar and avionics, and a deadly modern PL-9C missile.

MBB 339 are in Italy for upgrade.

L-39 Albatross has Czech upgrade in the last decade.

Hawk jets have no radar and are just trainers in light ground attack role. The pilots have ZERO air to ground combat experience on the Hawks.

South Africa has 9 Gripen pilots not combat qualified but manageable to fly air show at Mandela's funeral only.

The radar on the Gripen are 1995 era...20 years obsolete Gripen radars.

SAAF Gripens have less than 1 missile for each jet aircraft...approximately 0.98 missiles per jet.

If I need an air force for a comedy show, I will hire South African air force.....your combat status will make the world to laugh !

South Africa is in same bucket with Malawi according to United Nations military rankings released in Congo DRC
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Nigeria has no single 4th gen fighter that uses modern technology. Only flying coffins
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:04pm On Apr 27, 2015
andrewza:


These are the kills confirmed by the British government.

Citation needed....pocket your emotional talk

Show us source of GDF jet kills in Falkland war...the way I proved Roland shot down bombs
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:09pm On Apr 27, 2015
andrewza:



They was there opinion based on what they knew. None ever left for a combat zone. They where found wantining.


Nope, your own very source says SADF deployed Cactus SAM in battle of Quito and Cuban boys captured it as SADF troops fled back to base in Seleka Bangui style.

Your own comment and source says SADF had been used to abandoning heavy equipment since the time of Cuba, not just Seleka....

andrewza:


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotale_(missile)

In March 1988, Cuban intelligence operatives evaluated the system as deployed by the South African Defence Force during the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale. They claimed it was ineffective against attack profiles of the MiG-21 and MiG-23 operated by the Angolan Air Force, criticising the design as "shoddy", "outdated", and "useless".


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:09pm On Apr 27, 2015
Nigerian military take to their heels again. No source in the world could had ever been written alleging SANDF fleeing from war zone. Nigerian military is a blunder!!!



http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/04/25/boko-haram-retakes-northeast-town-from-nigerian-ar/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:11pm On Apr 27, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Civilian radar. Which a Cessna pilot can evade.

Which can also be easily jammed?

From safe distance or escorted by F-7 jets, NAF ATR-42 surveyor electronic warfare equipment can jam ALL radars owned by South Africa, whether civilian or military....we just make you go blind....as if ESKOM cut power at night....blind !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:16pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


From safe distance or escorted by F-7 jets, NAF ATR-42 surveyor electronic warfare equipment can jam ALL radars owned by South Africa, whether civilian or military....we just make you go blind....as if ESKOM cut power at night....blind !
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SA is a master of EW system in the world. Nigeria is not superior to us not to any inch. We compete with only America in the world.

Nigeria is already dark everyday, every hour of the night.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:21pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


From safe distance or escorted by F-7 jets, NAF ATR-42 surveyor electronic warfare equipment can jam ALL radars owned by South Africa, whether civilian or military....we just make you go blind....as if ESKOM cut power at night....blind !
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ATR is just a civilain machine.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:26pm On Apr 27, 2015
FighterPilot:


ATR is just a civilain machine.

I see what inferiority complex has done to you in broad day light. Hope you won't go mental and walk n..a..k..e..d into Shoprite
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:30pm On Apr 27, 2015
FighterPilot:



SA is a master of EW system in the world. Nigeria is not superior to us not to any inch. We compete with only America in the world.

Nigeria is already dark everyday, every hour of the night.

Show us your South African EW, ESM, ELINT and ECM aircraft with all the equipment loaded inside it, like this one in Nigeria....
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:38pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


I see what inferiority complex has done to you in broad day light. Hope you won't go mental and walk n..a..k..e..d into Shoprite
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Hahajajaja!!!!

This is ATR-42 whose EW will defeat that of gripen military aircraft meant to fight.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_42

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:44pm On Apr 27, 2015
agaugust:


Show us your South African EW, ESM, ELINT and ECM aircraft with all the equipment loaded inside it, like this one in Nigeria....
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Gripen jet has all that, just. because is small does not mean it does not incoperate all that. One gripen will kill ATR beyond recognition.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:48pm On Apr 27, 2015
FighterPilot:


Nigerian military take to their heels again. No source in the world could had ever been written alleging SANDF fleeing from war zone. Nigerian military is a blunder!!!

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/04/25/boko-haram-retakes-northeast-town-from-nigerian-ar/

False news again :



“Reuters news says fighting continued till early Friday when the soldiers retreated. The town has fallen and insurgents are fully in charge, they are more than 2000 in number.

But a military source dismissed the fall of Marte as untrue, insisting that there was still an on-going battle between the troops and the insurgents.

He also said: “It is true the military and the insurgents were drawn in battle at Marte, but I can tell you that the operation is on-going, we would not allow any part of this country to be held hostage by any hoodlums.”

On the attack on Mafa, Indi said the insurgents came in large number at about 6pm but met a stiff battle from the military.
He added that the terrorists retreated when they were not making any headway."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/sambisa-military-deploys-more-equipment-continues-assault/207795/
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