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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by BABE3: 2:59pm On Jun 25, 2015
We're at a crossroad. Do we stick to the old ways (husband-provider, wife-chores) or the new way (no/same roles) ?

The male gender wants the perks of the old ways (no chores), the female gender love the perks of the new way (half chore and financial independence).

The "husband-provider, wife-chores" model works in a household where only the man works full time. But in most households today, both man and wife work full time, so it's only fair they share the chores.

Plus, what hell is the big deal in cleaning up after yourself (man and woman) and cooking ?

I hear white men and AAs complain about this too, not only Africans. They complain that women don't do chores anymore. I smh.

If everyone just cleans up after themselves we wouldn't have this problem. It's that simple. Pigs! angry

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 3:09pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:
We're at a crossroad. Do we stick to the old ways (husband-provider, wife-chores) or the new way (no/same roles) ?

The male gender wants the perks of the old ways (no chores), the female gender love the perks of the new way (half chore and financial independence).

The "husband-provider, wife-chores" model works in a household where only the man works full time. But in most households today, both man and wife work full time, so it's only fair they share the chores.

Plus, what hell is the big deal in cleaning up after yourself (man and woman) and cooking ?

I hear white men and AAs complain about this too, not only Africans. They complain that women don't do chores anymore. I smh.

If everyone just cleans up after themselves we wouldn't have this problem. It's that simple. Pigs! angry



@bold: Who are

This is sometimes as a result of the belief that women are inferior to men and chores (the dirty work) is the woman's purview. Even a husband who stays @ home would still expect a working wife to tend to the chores.

Some wives also think chores is beneath their husbands

Some don't think dirty/inferior and are just stuck to gender roles.

Funnily, men were chosen as Deacons in the Bible to serve widows food tongue

Truly if people clean up after themselves, the chores would drastically reduce.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by BABE3: 3:26pm On Jun 25, 2015
bukatyne:


@bold: Who are

This is sometimes as a result of the belief that women are inferior to men and chores (the dirty work) is the woman's purview. Even a husband who stays @ home would still expect a working wife to tend to the chores.

Some wives also think chores is beneath their husbands

Some don't think dirty/inferior and are just stuck to gender roles.

Funnily, men were chosen as Deacons in the Bible to serve widows food tongue

Truly if people clean up after themselves, the chores would drastically reduce.

who are the pigs? Men who think they shouldn't do chores coz they have a pènis. cheesy

abi o. Clean up after yourself (man, wife and kids).

- whoever wakes up last lays the bed.

-when you brush your teeth, wipe the sink. When you shave or comb your hair, wipe the sink clean.

-when you poop, flush and check the toilet bowl for any poop marks. If you find a poop mark, wipe it off.

-when you take a shower, rinse tiles/walls afterwards. Remove your hair strands from drainage thing before stepping out.

-if you see dirt on the floor pick it.

-if something isn't in its place, fix it.

-wash your clothes regularly so it doesn't pile up.

-wash your dishes as you drop them in the sink; no pilling up.

-whoever cooks, should wash the pots and utensils as they're cooking.

-if you see a dusty surface, grab a napkin to clean it.

......this way, there are no actual "chores", coz everyone uses their commonsense and no one waits on anyone to do what's right.


I get time sha. grin

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 3:32pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


who are the pigs? Men who think they shouldn't do chores coz they have a pènis. cheesy

abi o. Clean up after yourself (man, wife and kids).

- whoever wakes up last lays the bed.

-when you brush your teeth, wipe the sink. When you shave or comb your hair, wipe the sink clean.

-when you poop, flush and check the toilet bowl for any poop marks. If you find a poop mark, wipe it off.

-when you take a shower, rinse tiles/walls afterwards. Remove your hair strands from drainage thing before stepping out.

-if you see dirt on the floor pick it.

-if something isn't in its place, fix it.

-wash your clothes regularly so it doesn't pile up.

-wash your dishes as you drop them in the sink; no pilling up.

-whoever cooks, should wash the pots and utensils as they're cooking.

-if you see a dusty surface, grab a napkin to clean it.

......this way, there are no actual "chores", coz everything uses their commonsense and no one waits on anyone to do what's right.


I get time sha. grin

Lols @ First sentence...

This should be Babe3's guide to having a choreless house grin

What's up, you are scarce in that Chilli's thread
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Mystiqme: 3:37pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


who are the pigs? Men who think they shouldn't do chores coz they have a pènis. cheesy

abi o. Clean up after yourself (man, wife and kids).

- whoever wakes up last lays the bed.

-when you brush your teeth, wipe the sink. When you shave or comb your hair, wipe the sink clean.

-when you poop, flush and check the toilet bowl for any poop marks. If you find a poop mark, wipe it off.

-when you take a shower, rinse tiles/walls afterwards. Remove your hair strands from drainage thing before stepping out.

-if you see dirt on the floor pick it.

-if something isn't in its place, fix it.

-wash your clothes regularly so it doesn't pile up.

-wash your dishes as you drop them in the sink; no pilling up.

-whoever cooks, should wash the pots and utensils as they're cooking.

-if you see a dusty surface, grab a napkin to clean it.

......this way, there are no actual "chores", coz everyone uses their commonsense and no one waits on anyone to do what's right.


I get time sha. grin

This is the truth.

OP, I did dishes with my mom, I'll do it with my wife (an example). The only time a problem will arise is if someone is not pulling their weight in the home, and I do not intend to be that person.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by coogaluta(f): 3:40pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


who are the pigs? Men who think they shouldn't do chores coz they have a pènis. cheesy

abi o. Clean up after yourself (man, wife and kids).

- whoever wakes up last lays the bed.

-when you brush your teeth, wipe the sink. When you shave or comb your hair, wipe the sink clean.

-when you poop, flush and check the toilet bowl for any poop marks. If you find a poop mark, wipe it off.

-when you take a shower, rinse tiles/walls afterwards. Remove your hair strands from drainage thing before stepping out.

-if you see dirt on the floor pick it.

-if something isn't in its place, fix it.

-wash your clothes regularly so it doesn't pile up.

-wash your dishes as you drop them in the sink; no pilling up.

-whoever cooks, should wash the pots and utensils as they're cooking.

-if you see a dusty surface, grab a napkin to clean it.

......this way, there are no actual "chores", coz everyone uses their commonsense and no one waits on anyone to do what's right.


I get time sha. grin


I wish this was possible with men and kids undecided
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 3:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
coogaluta:



I wish this was possible with men and kids undecided

What makes it impossible?
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by BABE3: 3:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
bukatyne:


Lols @ First sentence...

This should be Babe3's guide to having a choreless house grin

What's up, you are scarce in that Chilli's thread

Lol.
I dey. I just read the thread as a guest nowadays. Don't want to bore people with my bland foods.
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 3:47pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


Lol.
I dey. I just read the thread as a guest nowadays. Don't want to bore people with my bland foods.

You know that's is sooo not true grin

[size=2pt]You want me to sike you abi[/size]

Nice combo you usually make

Can't keep up with the continental dishes so I just modify my local dishes.

That thread is really an inspiration cheesy
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by damiso(f): 3:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


who are the pigs? Men who think they shouldn't do chores coz they have a pènis. cheesy

abi o. Clean up after yourself (man, wife and kids).

- whoever wakes up last lays the bed.

-when you brush your teeth, wipe the sink. When you shave or comb your hair, wipe the sink clean.

-when you poop, flush and check the toilet bowl for any poop marks. If you find a poop mark, wipe it off.

-when you take a shower, rinse tiles/walls afterwards. Remove your hair strands from drainage thing before stepping out.

-if you see dirt on the floor pick it.

-if something isn't in its place, fix it.

-wash your clothes regularly so it doesn't pile up.

-wash your dishes as you drop them in the sink; no pilling up.

-whoever cooks, should wash the pots and utensils as they're cooking.

-if you see a dusty surface, grab a napkin to clean it.

......this way, there are no actual "chores", coz everyone uses their commonsense and no one waits on anyone to do what's right.


I get time sha. grin

I agree with you on this.. this was how my house used to be before I had kids( not kids my son angry because my daughter inherited my OCD from birth. as a baby if milks spills on her onesie she will cry so you can change it grin the girl will not play with another toy until she has put away the last set kiss) This way is even the best cos it does not pile up and turn into big work. My son sef I give him one year. Now sef I am coming down hard on him, no tidying up of his lego and train tracks no treats. embarassed

I have been known to go back and lay my bed after I reached downstairs cos that unlaid bed is an 'extra' chore I have to tackle when I get home embarassed I sort my clothes into trousers,shirts,skirts,blouses,jumpers,jeans , native even iro and buba separate from dresses and by lace or ankara embarassed(I have issues I know embarassed)This because I am too lazy to start looking for them when I need to wear them. If they are in order it saves having to expend energy looking a top among jeans or Ankara among lace. cleaning up as you go actually saves time and energy in the long run. Its a bit harder with toddlers though but they get used to if its enforced. Dirty houses gives me nightmares embarassed


I have met some dirty women though lipsrsealed lipsrsealed Father Lord in heaven lipsrsealed

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by coogaluta(f): 3:50pm On Jun 25, 2015
bukatyne:


What makes it impossible?

You wanna train a grown man who hasn't done all those things in his life to suddenly start? Good luck!


Even kids, who are supoosedly 'trainable' will just take you for a witch if you try all those things she mentioned with them.

Ideally, that's how things are supposed to be but in the real world lipsrsealed

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 3:53pm On Jun 25, 2015
coogaluta:


You wanna train a grown man who hasn't done all those things in his life to suddenly start? Good luck!


Even kids, who are supoosedly 'trainable' will just take you for a witch if you try all those things she mentioned with them.

Ideally, that's how things are supposed to be but in the real world lipsrsealed

The kids take you for a witch for a little while; they will appreciate you in the long run and you will enjoy them

@Men: If the issues of chores is very important to you, marry a man who cleans up after himself or is willing to learn (before the marriage of course).

Also ensure you train your sons wella so their wives will thank you cheesy

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jun 25, 2015
funlord:
grin
A real nigga like me should know how 2 cook, clean and do laundry! It is called home training, and my mom and dad did not raise any fools! My dad cooks 4 me and my mom when I'm on xmas break with my family till date and my mum sits down in a corner with her stout waiting 4 the chow 2 be ready! These are things you can even teach your kids in the future and sometimes your wife may be to tired or 2 sick 2 cook, should she starve? All this culture crap is bullshite as far as I'm concerned, being a decent, caring and hardworking person has nothing 2 do with culture, it should be normal for a human being! A wife and husband should both share and do chores FAIRLY! The 1 wey I no understand be say when I cook 4 her it would be a "romantic dinner" but when na time 2 cook 4 me e go turn 2 "chores and suffering?" Wahala go dey dat time abeg!
gringringrin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jun 25, 2015
MarvellousGod:
Aahhhhh?? Thought you said you were a feminist? ? undecided undecided shocked shocked shocked... No be you dey yarn for the other thread few days ago about equality et al? undecided.. Now I believe some of these feminists on nl are jokers and don't do what they preach..

Sorry, but this is what I feel...
She got the bashing of her life on last thread.
She has probably changed her stand. gringrin

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by BABE3: 3:56pm On Jun 25, 2015
coogaluta:



I wish this was possible with men and kids undecided

With kids? If the man and his wife.are pulling their weights like mystiqme said, it shouldn't be a problem. Plus.as the kids grow older, they'd be forced to follow the footsteps of mummy and daddy. Kids are excellent followers. They're happier with "do as I do" than "do as I say".

With men? You allow what you allow. If you allow your husband get away with "no chores", all because you're trying to protect his "manhood" , that's your cup of tea
grin Let him keep basking in his filth.
You both work 9-5, and she's supposed to do all the chores? How? grin


when I say "you", I don't mean you.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by BABE3: 4:08pm On Jun 25, 2015
bukatyne:


You know that's is sooo not true grin

[size=2pt]You want me to sike you abi[/size]

Nice combo you usually make

Can't keep up with the continental dishes so I just modify my local dishes.

That thread is really an inspiration cheesy

60% of my food are bland. No Maggi, no salt. I just eat for nutrients most of the time. grin It pays off though.

I'm becoming a vegetarian. cheesy I've successfully done away with meat and fish. I can't let go of milk and eggs just yet. By december, I should be a complete vegan.

My mother thinks I need deliverance. grin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Stillfire: 4:15pm On Jun 25, 2015
All these can be avoided when we begin to train boys differently.
Let's not feign ignorance here, cooking, cleaning etc are reserved for girls during their developmental stage. And the boys carry hefty stuff, wash cars etc. grin
Most mothers consider it taboo for their sons to get into the kitchen.
I was at a Nigerian party recently and a man wanted to dish food himself on a buffet style setting o, one of the women said 'nooo, don't dish it, I'll do it for you, men are not supposed to dish food themselves.' cheesy
When we instigate these ideals into these men, how then do we expect something different when these boys become husbands? cheesy


It's only in Naija parties I see that buffet still requires wife to go and hustle for food for the husband to eat. Rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 4:19pm On Jun 25, 2015
BABE3:


60% of my food are bland. No Maggi, no salt. I just eat for nutrients most of the time. grin It pays off though.

I'm becoming a vegetarian. cheesy I've successfully done away with meat and fish. I can't let go of milk and eggs just yet. By december, I should be a complete vegan.

My mother thinks I need deliverance. grin

@ this rate, so do I grin

But they are mostly fruits and vegs though i.e. they don't need the spices.
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jun 25, 2015
I
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.



Over sabi...turn ur self to slave nah, because of culture and man...u better open ur eyes and knw wat u re doing....no be another thread a lady was crying abt doing all the chores and the husband is pressing fone and u re here saying culture...

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jun 25, 2015
ronald4lif:
This stem from the deep rooted culture that has been in place for ages that a man is meant to be a bread winner while the woman stay at the confines of the home performing house chores. But all that seem to be changing as women are ambitious and career driven.

Although most women still prefer to observe household chores as their traditional role, it's tasking combining house chores after a vigorous day at work. A man should assist in ensuring the chores and household is conducive. A man can cook, clean and wash their plates too. It doesn't make him any less of a man.

I've realised some women actually don't mind if their men don't share in household work, they are comfortable performing them but needs some form of appreciation from their man for keeping the home tidy. Let's admit it, we all need to feel appreciated after a job well done. But some men are too bossy to do this and think it's a woman's job after all. Appreciation and encouragement goes a long way to making a woman moan less about chores.

Your friend is fortunate, he's got a good wife. Most women wouldn't condone domestic abuse and would have rang the police.
He'd have been in a hot soup.


Make sense cool cool
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Kimoni: 4:34pm On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

I think she has a personality disorder. grin grin grin grin grin

Preach one on a thread, Preach differently on another.....

grin grin grin

Na you sabi. Why don't you say this on threads where she is advocating feminism??

OP, which type of woman is being beaten mercilessly like this in the U.S and still doesn't know she should call the cops undecided

Abi na United States of Ajegunle ni?

Back to the matter - what do people discuss during courtship these days and what are those things they watch out for in their partners?

Na only the length and strength of blokos una dey measure these days?

Na so so housework mata everywhere this month

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by edwife(f): 4:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
freecocoa:
And someone was talking crap about me wanting to be superior or whatever, when I say that not all who claim 'feminist' actually know what they are on about, una don see am na.

Freecocoa now you see what i mean? cheesy



****back to my confused and laughing state****

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jun 25, 2015
Kimoni:


grin grin grin

Na you sabi. Why don't you say this on threads where she is advocating feminism??
That's because I haven't seen a thread she contradicted herself.
Even a non-feminist or someone oblivious of feminism, won't type that....

By the way, i'm not a feminist but a supporter of what's right devoid of hypocrisy. wink
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Kimoni: 5:01pm On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

That's because I haven't seen a thread she contradicted herself.


Now I am confused. didn't you just say she has a multi personality disorder??


Even a non-feminist or someone oblivious of feminism, won't type that....

By the way, i'm not a feminist but a supporter of what's right devoid of hypocrisy. wink

The same bug has bitten you angry angry
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 5:15pm On Jun 25, 2015
Kimoni:


Now I am confused. didn't you just say she has a multi personality disorder??
You asked why I didn't quote her on a thread she was advocating for feminism - as of that time, I haven't seen her contradict herself.
I'm less aware of that moniker.

The same bug has bitten you angry angry

Can a male be a feminist? According to its wikipedia definition, YES.
But, I don't like the name as it sounds feminine instead of gender balanced; femini -sm.

I'm a humanitarian...
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Kimoni: 5:17pm On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

You asked why I didn't quote her on a thread she was advocating for feminism - as of that time, I haven't seen her contradict herself.
I'm less aware of that moniker.


Oh ok, I get you now


Can a male be a feminist? According to its wikipedia definition, YES.
But, I don't like the name as it sounds feminine; [b]femini[/b]sm.

I'm a huminitarian

Hahahhahahahhahahaha

Now that is funny!

There is only one humanitarian I know though - my mentor, Dr Tai Solarin - dude live and died for humanity. I'd like to see you become the next great one wink
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 5:26pm On Jun 25, 2015
Kimoni:


Oh ok, I get you now
Hahahhahahahhahahaha

Now that is funny!

There is only one humanitarian I know though - my mentor, Dr Tai Solarin - dude live and died for humanity. I'd like to see you become the next great one wink
Still working on my way of becoming one. grin

You'll be shocked if I tell you my age - let me keep it to myself before some people will use against me when I type. gringrin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Kimoni: 5:34pm On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

Still working on my way of becoming one. grin

You'll be shocked if I tell you my age - let me keep it to myself before some people will use against me when I type. gringrin

Now my curiosity is awakened grin grin grin What is your age? Whisper it to my ears
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jun 25, 2015
Kimoni:


Now my curiosity is awakened grin grin grin What is your age? Whisper it to my ears
If a girl of my age gets married, she'll still be considered as an underage.

Go figure. Ciao! gringrin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by freecocoa(f): 5:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
edwife:


Freecocoa now you see what i mean? cheesy



****back to my confused and laughing state****
I've always known what you mean my sister, it's very obvious.

There's actually a handful of women on here who know what feminism is really about and it's just sad seeing the movement being used as it is on here.

I know you almost don't like feminists btw.tongue grin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Kimoni: 5:41pm On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

If a girl of my age gets married, she'll still be considered as an underage.

Go figure. Ciao! gringrin

shocked shocked shocked shocked

You are indeed wise for your age. I'll sit back then while you become the next great one wink
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
Kimoni:


shocked shocked shocked shocked

You are indeed wise for your age. I'll sit back then while you become the next great one wink
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