JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
"FOR AS GOD THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF; SO HAS HE GIVEN TO THE SON JESUS CHRIST {by the Holy Ghost} TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF";
◄John 5:26)

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name ( THE NAME OF GOD) than they.
Hebrews 1:4 ►
Therefore Jesus is called God by INHERITANCE.

"Through Jesus Christ we have access by one Holy Spirit unto God the Father"
(Ephesians 2:18).

◄"Now the Lord Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty"►. And if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
◄2 Corinthians 3:16-17). (Roman 8:9)►

evidence?

If jesus was not the true God, he should have not accepted worship or being called God.

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Richirich713:
If jesus was not the true God, he should have not accepted worship or being called God.

All you need to do is pick up your bible and read John 17:3 , Who did Jesus called the ONLY TRUE God ? His Father !!!

Accepting worship doesnt mean a person is the Almighty God , READ Revelation 3:9 where some humans also accept worship . Does that make them the Almighty ? Think !!!

Jozzy4:


All you need to do is pick up your bible and read John 17:3 , Who did Jesus called the ONLY TRUE God ? His Father !!!

Accepting worship doesn't mean a person is the Almighty God , READ Revelation 3:9 where some humans also accept worship . Does that make them the Almighty ? Think !!!

Revelation 3:9 does not speak about the worship only to be given to God. Jesus instead told us to honor him just like we honor the father.

Richirich713:


Revelation 3:9 does not speak about the worship only to be given to God.

Haha ! So there re different kinds of worship ?

That means those given to Jesus are not also the only worship Jesus said will be given to the his God and Father ( Matt 4:10 ; john 4:24 )

Jesus instead told us to honor him just like we honor the father.

And When did honor start meaning worship ? " honor your Father and Mother" Exodus 20:12 does it mean we worship them ?

Again if jesus was not the true God he shouldn't have allowed his disciples to call him God nor should he have told his followers to honor him just like they honor the father.

Richirich713:


Revelation 3:9 does not speak about the worship only to be given to God.

Really ! So there re different kinds of worship ?

That means those given to Jesus are not also the only worship Jesus said will be given to his God and Father ( Matt 4:10 ; john 4:24 )

Jesus instead told us to honor him just like we honor the father.

And When did honor start meaning worship ? " honor your Father and Mother" Exodus 20:12 does it mean we worship them ?

Jozzy4:


Haha ! So there re different kinds of worship ?

That means those given to Jesus are not also the only worship Jesus said will be given to the his God and Father ( Matt 4:10 ; john 4:24 )



And When did honor start meaning worship ? " honor your Father and Mother" Exodus 20:12 does it mean we worship them ?

Honor your father and mother, yes it does not say honor your father and mother just like u honor God.

Yes the bible does use the Hebrew word shachah usually translated as bow,bow down, worship differently

It doesn't always mean the same thing, it depends on context.

Richirich713:


Honor your father and mother, yes it does not say honor your father and mother just like u honor God.

The keyword is " Honor" , which even human parents receive .

John 5:23 even proves that the Father IS GREATER than Jesus

" so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honour the Father who sent him " john 5:23

Is the sent greater or equal with the one who sent him ?

Jozzy4:


The keyword is " Honor" , which even human parents receive .

John 5:23 even proves that the Father IS GREATER than Jesus

" so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honour the Father who sent him " john 5:23

Is the sent greater or equal with the one who sent him ?

Yes greater in position and authority not greater in essence.

Richirich713:


Yes greater in position

That means they are not equal !!! Do you agree that the Father is THE God of Jesus ?

and authority

Authority ! That means Jesus is subjected to his commands .

not greater in essence.

Explain what you mean here ?

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Richirich713:


Yes the father became Jesus God at his birth cuz he took upon a human nature.

Dont be deceived ! The father remains the God of Jesus IN HEAVEN ( 1Cor 15:24 )

Essence, means he is equal to God the Father in nature due to the fact that Jesus is God Word

Funny guy , what is the nature of God ? Lets see if angels dont have the same nature .

Jozzy4:


Dont be deceived ! The father remains the God of Jesus IN HEAVEN ( 1Cor 15:24 )



Funny guy , what is the nature of God ? Lets see if angels dont have the same nature .

Yes he remains his God cuz jesus is still human.

Obviously I don't mean spirit, I mean jesus is divine cuz he has the essence of God.

Richirich713:


Yes he remains his God cuz jesus is still human.

Haaaa !!! That means the Scripture that said " FLESH AND BLOOD cannot inherit Gods Kingdom" is lying ? Uh . a spirit does not have flesh and bones .

Yet you are telling me Jesus still have blood , flesh and bone as humans .

If Jesus is still human , it means he is still made lower than the angels !!!

You are indeed funny .

Obviously I don't mean spirit, I mean jesus is divine cuz he has the essence of God.

Even humans are divine .

" that through this you may become sharers in Divine Nature" - 2pet 1:4 . Uh

Guy r u evens christian?

Ever hear of Jesus resurrection and his appearance to Thomas?

So how can u ask me if jesus is still human.

Jesus said, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have," (Luke 24:39)

Richirich713:
Guy r u evens christian?

Ever hear of Jesus resurrection and his appearance to Thomas?

So how can u ask me if jesus is still human.

ANgels also appear as humans , does it mean they are humans ? U need to start thinking bro !

Jozzy4:


ANgels also appear as humans , does it mean they are humans ? U need to start thinking bro !

In John 2:19-21, Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews, therefore, said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?' But He was speaking of the temple of his body.

Not according to John and Jesus.

Richirich713:
Jesus said, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have," (Luke 24:39)

Good ! A spirit does not have flesh and bones .

" [Jesus] became a .... Spirit" 1 Cor 15:45

Then He said to Thomas, 'Reach here your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand, and put it into My side; and be not unbelieving, but believing,'" (John 20:27)

Clearly the bible is is claiming Jesus was physically resurrected.

But they didn't find his body. They came and told us that they had seen a vision of angels, who said he was alive. Luke 24:23

Again clearly referring to a physical resurrection.

Jozzy4:


Good ! A spirit does not have flesh and bones .

" [Jesus] became a .... Spirit" 1 Cor 15:45

Jesus said, "Touch me and see, FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT have flesh and bones AS YOU SEE I HAVE," (Luke 24:39)

Jesus says he has FLESH AND BONES.

Richirich713:


In John 2:19-21, Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews, therefore, said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?' But He was speaking of the temple of his body.

Not according to John and Jesus.

The body of Jesus wasnt found in the tomb . So therefore it was raised up.

The question is : How Could Jesus go To Heaven with a human body of flesh ( kidney , intestine , pancreas , p*nis ) and blood , when the scripture clearly said flesh and blood cant inherit Gods Kingdom ?

" there are heavenly bodies [body for heaven], and earthly bodies [body for planet earth ]" , says the scripture - 1 cor 15:40

Richirich713:


Jesus said, "Touch me and see, FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT have flesh and bones AS YOU SEE I HAVE," (Luke 24:39)

Jesus says he has FLESH AND BONES.

The same way some angelic Spirits in past has flesh and bones just to be seen and touched .

We are told that Jesus is a SPIRIT ( 1 cor 15:45) .

Jozzy4:


The body of Jesus wasnt found in the tomb . So therefore it was raised up.

The question is : How Could Jesus go To Heaven with a human body of flesh ( kidney , intestine , pancreas , p*nis ) and blood , when the scripture clearly said flesh and blood cant inherit Gods Kingdom ?

" there are heavenly bodies [body for heaven], and earthly bodies [body for planet earth ]" , says the scripture - 1 cor 15:40

Jesus said, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have FLESH AND BONE as you see I have," (Luke 24:39)

Jesus does not say FLESH AND BLOOD.

Richirich713:


Jesus said, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have FLESH AND BONE as you see I have," (Luke 24:39)

Jesus does not say FLESH AND BLOOD.

This is serious , really ?

" Even if we once knew Christ according to the flesh , we certainly no longer know him in that way " - 2 Cor 5: 16

Jozzy4:


This is serious , really ?

" Even if we once knew Christ according to the flesh , we certainly no longer know him in that way " - 2 Cor 5: 16

Are u seriously saying jesus is not flesh and bones even tho he says:

"FLESH AND BONE as you see I HAVE".

Richirich713:


Are u seriously saying jesus is not flesh and bones even tho he says:

"FLESH AND BONE as you see I HAVE".

Definitely not the flesh and bone that he died with.
For that was presented as a sacrifice for us.
The bible says jesus was ressurected as a life giving spirit.

If jesus was ressurected with his flesh and blood, Mary would definitely have recognized him when appeared to her na, but she thought he was a gardener even after having a discussion with him .

Again when the scribes where questioning jesus about marriage after resurrection, jesus told them that those to be ressurected will be like angels, spirit creatures in heaven. No wonder paul said those to be ressurected to heaven will be ressurected just like jesus, having immortality and sharing in the divine nature, a spirit nature.

Dnt think flesh and blood can have immortality, though they can have evalasting life.