daretodiffer:


I am sorry I made a mistake. I should have mentioned that death of an apostate is onlynin the Hadith. Thee is no mention of that punishment in the Qur'an itself. It has in several verses affirmed that there is no compulsion in religion.

He could disrupt the peace by protesting, instigating people etc which could indirectly cause chaos.

madjnr:
seems like the bible is more inhumane in dealing with apostate

daretodiffer:


I am sorry I made a mistake. I should have mentioned that death of an apostate is onlynin the Hadith. Thee is no mention of that punishment in the Qur'an itself. It has in several verses affirmed that there is no compulsion in religion.

He could disrupt the peace by protesting, instigating people etc which could indirectly cause chaos.

tartar9:

what is this one saying

Pyrrho:
I used to be surprised at people being extremely stvpid.
But now I'm sure it is by choice. I get less infuriated by comments like this.

I guess every person is lost in this reality, and would do anything (in the name of God) to make sense out of their miserable existence.

Unfortunately...

true2god:
Altaqiyya alert! Loading @ 25kb/s.

madjnr:
seems like the bible is more inhumane in dealing with apostate

gimakon:


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true2god:
[s]Saudi arabia is following the sunnah of the islamic prophet (shitt be upon him), to the fullest. [/s]

You this Biafran mosquito, don't you ever learn?!

true2god:
The guy will consume all his data on altaqiyya, islamic holy lies to deceive 'infidels'. How will a christian convert cause chaos in saudi arabia? Thousands of yoruba muslims are turning to christ and there is no single chaos.

Muslims are never tired of deceptions.

Yoruba Muslims?!! I can see the Biafran struggle is really affecting your biscuit bone brain! Yorubas are returning to the Sunnah and they're increasing everyday.

Demmzy15:
Yoruba Muslims?!! I can see the Biafran struggle is really affecting your biscuit bone brain! Yorubas are returning to the Sunnah and they're increasing everyday.

true2god:
Lol. The sunnahh of sleeping with a 6 year old girl (aisha).

The sunnah of snatching his adopted son's wife (zainab..

The sunnah of recommending camel peace for the cure of disease.

Didn't the camel urine cure the aliment?! Or you want me to show you how your Bible told us to cure leprosy?!

The sunnah of killing apostates.

The sunnah of altaqiyya for muslims for the propagation of islam.

The sunnah of killing Jews worldwide, especially in arab land.

The yorubas I know are more godly, decent and responsible than [s]your pedofile and criminal prophet (shitt be upon him), together with his fellow arab sahaba criminals..[/s]

What's the point?! @stroked. Can't you make reasonable points without being vulgar? It's now you know Yorubas, you want to include us in your nonsense Biafra struggle abi? OK continue! Yorubas are becoming more firm in Islam, they're not nonchalant and "I don't care" about Islam like they used to be. They're now upholding the Sunnah, I've seen many of them. Even here in school(Ekiti), we're firm on the sunnah!

Demmzy15:


No one slept with a six year old girl, you're presenting it as its the case of Mary and Joseph(12 years ==90years)



Prophet Muhammad never had an adopted son!



Didn't the camel urine cure the aliment?! Or you want me to show you how your Bible told us to cure leprosy?!



Apostates killed are the belligerent ones, the guy the op talked is not going to be executed because he's still a Muslim. They misinterpreted him and every human makes mistakes.



In the Creed of Ahl Sunnah Wa Jam'aah, we don't do takkiyah. So try someone else, Paul and Peter are perfect takkiyah experts.



Christians are known to have killed the highest amount of Jews in the world, the Jews consider their golden age to be under Islamic States. In fact the Zionist Jews are the ones killing the Palestinian Muslims.



What's the point?! @stroked. Can't you make reasonable points without being vulgar? It's now you know Yorubas, you want to include us in your nonsense Biafra struggle abi? OK continue! Yorubas are becoming more firm in Islam, they're not nonchalant and "I don't care" about Islam like they used to be. They're now upholding the Sunnah, I've seen many of them. Even here in school(Ekiti), we're firm on the sunnah!

true2god:
I can see that u r islamically ignorant of your evil hadiths, but before I respond to you, are you a quranist only or do you also believe in the hadith and the sunnah (as narrated by ibn ishaq and al-tabari) [s]of your pedofile and criminal prophet (shitt be upon him)?[/s]

Demmzy15:
Look here animal, if you want me to reply your nonsense refrain from using the above words. It's a warning you know, I'm not a Quranist. Just as you try and "expose" me with the hadiths, I will too with other Christian documents like the bible, apocryphal and words of Christian saints.

I won't reply posts that have been answered by me or other Muslims here. Oya start!

CoolUsername:
You're avoiding the question here. How is this humane? What country is killing people for leaving christianity in the 21st century? Saudi Arabia is no better than ISIS. The UN just can't intervene because of all the oil.

true2god:
SAHIH AL-BUKHARI

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al- Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234).

Your islamic perfect man, mohammed (shiit be upon him), started sleeping with aisha when she was nine while he was 54 years (shameless old man).

Dont tell me that the above hadith is weak or fabricated, standard islamic excuse, because the quran supports pedofillia and marriage to girls who never experience mensuration (quran 65:4).

daretodiffer:


Islam allows it if and only if, the subject in question uses it to disrupt the peace of the community.

madjnr:
Deuteronomy 13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 13: 13
Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deuteronomy 17:3
And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.





what can you say about that?

trapQ:
there's no need to play sides here. Call a spade a spade.

Islam gives no conditions to it. so many Christians have been killed for apostisizing in Islamic countries, and I didn't see how they "disrupted the peace of the community".

if Christians retaliate by putting these laws in place in Christian countries such as US, UK, Canada, etc, we all know you lots won't like it.

there are no conditions given for the capital punishment of apostasy in Islamic countries. Whenever a citizen becomes an apostate, he is to be killed, end of story. No need of trying to justify this barbaric act.

daretodiffer:




http://www.fiqhcouncil.org/node/34


That should explain it.

cc dorox

Pyrrho:
I used to be surprised at people being extremely stvpid.
But now I'm sure it is by choice. I get less infuriated by comments like this.
I guess every person is lost in this reality, and would do anything (in the name of God) to make sense out of their miserable existence.
Unfortunately...

tartar9:

what is this one saying

Pyrrho:
Nope. I asked a simple question.

tartar9:
the law is the law,good one Saudi Arabia

madjnr:
my friend even your bible gave you order to do it...why are you concerned about the laws of Saudi Arabia what about country like China that execute someone for selling drug? what's special about the Saudi? it's their law so whenever you're in their land you have to obey it... if you don't like it don't come to Saudi Arabia, simple... if you read my post you will see that the bible prescribed death to apostate... the question is why are Christian following only some part of the bible and not all

daretodiffer:


Are you crazy?

daretodiffer:


Sharrap!


What sides?

Have you lost your mind? Do you know my religion better than I do?

The Christian countries you .mentioned have killed far more people with their superiority complex.

CoolUsername:
That's one of the reasons I'm an atheist, you can't kill someone for disagreeing with your views.

China executes drug traffickers and even though I am staunchly against the death penalty for whatever reason, there's still a tiny bit of justification for this punishment because drugs endanger the life of the user and people around the user.

But for Saudi Arabia, killing someone for expressing himself is the most inhumane thing to do. To say that because it is law and it is their land is extremely selfish and goes to show your lack of empathy. I don't care the god you worship, who you are, or where you're from; if you infringe on someone's rights, someone should call you out on it.

Saudi Arabia is has disgusting laws. Nobody should be killed for being an unbeliever. They are no better than ISIS, and anyone who defends this terrible thing is no better either. People like that have no place in the 21st century.

dorox:

He is not crazy, just being a good conservative muslim unlike you.

trapQ:
your terrorist mind is too senile to comprehend sane issues.

you never condemned the killing but justified it. you're a potential terrorist.

ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS IN WAITING.

now get lost. you and your terrorist brothers belong in the previous century.

dorox:

He is not crazy, just being a good conservative muslim unlike you.

daretodiffer:

Really?

Tell me more

We are not going anywhere so you can go and die