Eddygourdo:
and oga maybe I should school you briefly, when something is not done in its entirety, in its pure form we call it's complete implementation as being true, meaning raw. We can't pick the part that pleases us and ignore some parts, because federalism is an already defined type of government, in its pure form with no modifications to suit the needs or selfishness of its doers, we say true federalism

The major problem besetting Nigeria today is not corruption but the inability to speak honestly because of undue pressure from tribalism. These nonsensically human defects could be easily correctly by disintegration of the cesspit so that nation states in Nigeria can chase their destinies. If you do not have the required human intellect to run federalism such as Nigerians do, it is act of brazen idiocy in an attempt to redefine federalism into “true or false”.

Duru1:


The major problem besetting Nigeria today is not corruption but the inability to speak honestly because of undue pressure from tribalism. These nonsensically human defects could be easily correctly by disintegration of the cesspit so that nation states in Nigeria can chase their destinies.

that is actually Wat we discussing here, but unlike the ipob initiative, we don't want hate, we want to plan and strategies with reason and common sense. Do join in. I believe u have ideas that can help asides the hate

ArodeTsolaye:


This one is banking on the SW support, with all their muslims licking northern as$ses. Alhaji Akintola the Sultan's boy must be laughing at your foolery.

Don't mind him. How many SW and NC delegates voted to increase derivation to 25% the last time?

Some people are just delusional.

Eddygourdo:
that is actually Wat we discussing here, but unlike the ipob initiative, we don't want hate, we want to plan and strategies with reason and common sense. Do join in. I believe u have ideas that can help asides the hate

I do not see a slight hatred from the IPOB. The group is bold enough to tell dumbass Nigerians to shove it. They spoke the truth about the cesspit called Nigeria which happens to be a colonialist’s creation. Nigerians know for sure there is no fundamental benchmark for unity among the ethnic nation states in Nigeria. Ethnic groups are as difference as the night that follows the day.

Eddygourdo:
that is actually Wat we discussing here, but unlike the ipob initiative, we don't want hate, we want to plan and strategies with reason and common sense. Do join in. I believe u have ideas that can help asides the hate

This new word "hate" is apparently the latest buzzword. As usual, the sheeple regurgitate it unthinkingly.

I can certainly give examples of several episodic explosions of hatred accross Nigeria (and how many lives were lost) but with IPOB - no killings, no beatings.. Nada. Even on these boards, I can give several examples of lunatics advocating genocide on Igbos but among secessionists, no such evidence advocating mass murder of the other..

When the Scotish proposed a referendum to break away from GB, we didn't hear all these threats and hate speech by the English even though the confederation was entered willingly but in our case, any discussion about our forced Union is incomplete without threats of genocide, violence and a million war crimes. And apparently, we secessionists are the ones hating.

Fccking hypocrites!

VickJames:


This is not propaganda, when you check what is happening in our land, we have not achieved one single feat with our collective effort. look at the political party that was meant to be an igbo party, it has been destroyed and only have root in anambra state. this goes to show how igbos love going outside to beg others to be their friends. the igbo man went to pdp, they have abandoned pdp for igbo people. no singular motive from the igbos. the artificial boundary is really causing havoc to our existence and it needs to stop. we love going solo and it is bad.

How can you use a few old selfish politicians to judge the Igbo race.

Igbos are the most United people in Nigeria. Fact!

Olabestonic001:
I'm Yoruba but with much interest in the Igbo's cause.
I support a thorough planning with the pros and cons spelt out before executions. The intellects among Igbos must hijack the Biafra from those who seems to be too angry to think. I want the intellects to first analyze the stuffs around it. Anger and emotions does not win a cause; proper planning does.
IPOB seems to be filled with angry people that have been filled with the feeling of getting to a state of utopia and some gullible people who are just sympathetic to their cause. I want them to go back to the drawing board and do the following:
(a) Discourage the Igbo's from worshiping money and having premium on honor and respects rather than the amount you have in your pocket.
(b) Encourage more youths to do stay and develop their regions. Its no good always exporting your human resources to other climes and only coming home once or twice a year to show everyone how rich you've become. That causes a great sense of mundaness.
(c) The Igbo's needs to think less about Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba's, but think more about Igbo. Most Igbo's I know are too insecure (even though they are extremely capable individuals). While I can say the Civil war had its toll on some people's psyche, they need to know that their destiny is in their hands and no tribe can hold them down; they can prosper.
(d) They must learn that life is all about politics and not that throwing of emotions all around. Too much emotions ruins even the best cause. Let them stop being clannish and mobbish. A thing needs to be assessed by its inherent properties than 'where' it comes from. Also, allowing an alternate view is something they must work on greatly.
(e) With the development in their region, they must know that Yoruba's, Niger Deltans, Middlebelt are all tired of the type of federalism we are practicing and would join for same clamor for regional autonomy/dissolution of Nigeria.
The Fulani herdsmen are a menace to Jos and Middlebelt as a whole, the Yoruba's wants regional autonomy, the South-South wants regional control but it seems proponents of this Biafra wants to annex SS and force a kingdom on them. What MOU have they signed? have they sold the whole new agitations for the elders in Igbo land? For those who are clamoring that their elders be overlooked, I daresay they are really getting it all wrong. While an older man lives in memory, a younger man lives in expectation. An elder has 'seen it all' and you cant just rubbish such a person. Any company cannot make a vibrant young man lacking in experience as her CEO (NO MATTER HIS ENTHUSIASM); he must learn the politics and realities from the elder ones.

I see two things happening to this IPOB bandwagon (I see it more as a bandwagon):
Either the whole agitation goes down in the next 1 year as subsidy protests, BringBackOurGirl protest etc or it metamorphoses into a militant group that will be more of a headache to the region than a blessing.

I WILL ADVISE YOU TO BE A YORUBA WITH MUCH INTEREST IN YORUBA CAUSE.It is not a difficult thing to do.

i've seen like two threads created specifically to champion the yoruba cause; since i was not yoruba, i didn't bother clicking on any of them. out of respect, i stayed away, and i know most Igbos would do the same, cos we hate to intrude into other peoples affairs uninvited.
The question is: WHY IS THIS THREAD FILLED WITH COMMENTS FROM KNOWN IGBO-HATING MONIKERS
as if that is not enough, they're even trying to advise us on what's best for us...

Promhize:


It took a SS president, SE aviation minister and decades for SE to get an ordinary International Airport.

Since when have igbos been yearning for a seaport. As long Nigeria's structure remains as it is, we will never get that seaport, but billions is being spent exploring for oil in the north.

They say SE is landlocked to deceive the gullible.

The only thing you have in your demented head is complain, complain and more complain. OK we all know there is an obstacle barring Igbo from having its own seaport what solution do you have in your demented head as a wise Igbo boy because it's obvious you can not be a man to outsmart this aboki n ewedu drinking yoloba n get your seaport ?

That is what the OP is interested in not for you to come n drop your sorrow on the thread n continue whining outside the thread. Kwawkwso built an international airport in Kano, negotiated direct flight with Emirate to Kano Stella Oduah barred that from happening till date.

We do not hear HausaFulani whining instead they are moving on with how they can proffer solution to the obstacle an Igbo used in batting the progress of their region.

What such initiative as the Igbo taken about the seaport n airport in their region.

Lagos is building its second seaport without the federal govt contributing a dime yet it would be earning a large chuck from the seaport those from the region are not whining rather they are contented with the little they will earn

Jigawa state built its own airport without a single dime as support from the federal govt, what are Igbo leaders doing with the federal allocation accruing to their states ?

Small time you'd come here n start dishing gibberish that Igbo built the seaport in Lagos.

VickJames:


the monies, development and employment their people have been getting is enough for them. this is a pure act of laziness in their part. let the work hard to harness their potentials. nothing good comes easy.

What as the 5 Igbo States been doing with their on allocation or the money they have received not enough for them if it's enough for other states or are all Igbo States oil producing state ?

What exactly as the Igbo state achieved with their allocation that the Yoruba are yet to achieve or the NC is yet to achieve with Igbo being the most hard drugging tribe in Nigeria while all other tribes are lazy ?

dialfa:


Anambra, Imo, Enugu, etc. are all Zoo creations imposed on us by Abbokis.
Until you guys stop judging us by our reactions to the zoo, we won't get anywhere.
Our problem is the Zoo. And the Zoo cannot solve it.

You can as well tell the Yoruba to cede with the Yorubas in Benin repUnlicensed n the Fulani to annex Mali Niger Cameroon etc because they have Fulani in those countries. I think they said Igbo are intelligent people. I mean those have met on NL have all been extremely pathetic.

cheruv:

Kos Igbos are in the SS too

You can as well tell the Yoruba to cede with the Yorubas in Benin Republic n the Fulani to annex Mali Niger Cameroon etc because they have Fulani in those countries. I think they said Igbo are intelligent people. I mean those have met on NL have all been extremely pathetic to say the least.

Ballmer:


The only thing you have in your demented head is complain, complain and more complain. OK we all know there is an obstacle barring Igbo from having its own seaport what solution do you have in your demented head as a wise Igbo boy because it's obvious you can not be a man to outsmart this aboki n ewedu drinking yoloba n get your seaport ?

That is what the OP is interested in not for you to come n drop your sorrow on the thread n continue whining outside the thread. Kwawkwso built an international airport in Kano, negotiated direct flight with Emirate to Kano Stella Oduah barred that from happening till date.

We do not hear HausaFulani whining instead they are moving on with how they can proffer solution to the obstacle an Igbo used in batting the progress of their region.

What such initiative as the Igbo taken about the seaport n airport in their region.

Lagos is building its second seaport without the federal govt contributing a dime yet it would be earning a large chuck from the seaport those from the region are not whining rather they are contented with the little they will earn

Jigawa state built its own airport without a single dime as support from the federal govt, what are Igbo leaders doing with the federal allocation accruing to their states ?

Small time you'd come here n start dishing gibberish that Igbo built the seaport in Lagos.

Okay

Ballmer:
You can as well tell the Yoruba to cede with the Yorubas in Benin repUnlicensed n the Fulani to annex Mali Niger Cameroon etc because they have Fulani in those countries. I think they said Igbo are intelligent people. I mean those have met on NL have all been extremely pathetic.

unlike those tribes, we don't abandon our own
we refuse to be divided

Ballmer:


The only thing you have in your demented head is complain, complain and more complain. OK we all know there is an obstacle barring Igbo from having its own seaport what solution do you have in your demented head as a wise Igbo boy because it's obvious you can not be a man to outsmart this aboki n ewedu drinking yoloba n get your seaport ?

That is what the OP is interested in not for you to come n drop your sorrow on the thread n continue whining outside the thread. Kwawkwso built an international airport in Kano, negotiated direct flight with Emirate to Kano Stella Oduah barred that from happening till date.

We do not hear HausaFulani whining instead they are moving on with how they can proffer solution to the obstacle an Igbo used in batting the progress of their region.

What such initiative as the Igbo taken about the seaport n airport in their region.

Lagos is building its second seaport without the federal govt contributing a dime yet it would be earning a large chuck from the seaport those from the region are not whining rather they are contented with the little they will earn

Jigawa state built its own airport without a single dime as support from the federal govt, what are Igbo leaders doing with the federal allocation accruing to their states ?

Small time you'd come here n start dishing gibberish that Igbo built the seaport in Lagos.

Is it no longer one naijeria now?
Are each region now going to autonomously develop?
If Igbos don't need federal govt, why is the federal govt holding us back?
Call a referendum.

ArodeTsolaye:


But can't yorubas stay on their own without this regional crap you keep mouthing Why does outright peaceful dissolution scare you yorubas even more than the fulas? Are you guys this weak?

PLEASE MAKE THE WORLD UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT NIGERIA.

Hello,

Here you come to kill the spirit and intent of this thread. This topic is not about Yoruba and far from being a Yoruba vs. Igbo issue, which you're still deluded in.

I had given a suggestion, which you clearly misunderstood, the links and documents I provided, you hardly bothered to read, talk less of comprehending it. Unfortunately I cannot help your comprehension gap, neither am I inclined to engage you in any discussion as it obviously will yield no value.....

Zinicc:



You are Igbo but you are not in full comprehension of who the Igbo man is..

Igbo man is one who love his brother more ťhan himself
Igbo man is one who shares his wealth with his family and community
Igbo man is one who hide from his brother when he couldn't look at his face and help him out of his situation
Igbo man is one who married a wife and treats her like a queen


We Igbos loves ourselves so passionately and without any questions.

Some elements in Nigeria knows this very well, and considering their age long Igbophobia has decided to plant discord among brethren making you to feel that your brother whom is dying of love for you actually hates you, thereby putting you in caution mode and as a result vent for fault at any slight provocation. I hereby encourage every Igbo son to identify these elements each time they arebsighted and disregard their sermon and shame them.

Every human on earth has challenges and we Igbos are human too...but our good overides our weakness.

We are Igbos, we are proud, we are blessed.

"This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man."....... Shakespare

Truth4eva:

Did you read where I wrote CRUDE OIL? Maybe I have to keep writing it a s crude oil. Thanks.

do you understand the meaning of sarcasm

Ballmer:
You can as well tell the Yoruba to cede with the Yorubas in Benin repUnlicensed n the Fulani to annex Mali Niger Cameroon etc because they have Fulani in those countries. I think they said Igbo are intelligent people. I mean those have met on NL have all been extremely pathetic to say the least.

A load of mumbo jumbo ....how pathetic Igbophobes can be pls have this map for your perusal

obailala:
Are you remotely suggesting that Russia, Germany and the English built their countries by teaching their youths to hate and/or insult other nations?... What history exactly do you want me to go read?.. A history that will justify me going around hating and insulting people because I think they are insulting me?

yes! thats what sprung their greatness! quote me anywhere! yes! go and read!!
by the way who is hating here? ndigbo or nigeria state? must you insult your family to make a point? whenever your enemy is against you, it means you are in right track, but if they support you, better withdraw!
Have you been listening to world news, how countries protect their territories? hate envy and jealously is what make western countries great!!
You will not understand this because you are a black man in africa that believes so much on miracle and magic!

Op and some of the contributors are sounding like charity organisation! look you don't build nation by these type of thought! Go to stamfront..org and see things for yourself! we black people have a long way to go!!

juicee1:
mind you, the whole of SE is not as big as Oyo state. Ota alone has enough industries talkless of the whole of ogun state.

Below is a video of ibos protesting in Akure after they got flogged by the deji of Akure. Look at their population just to sight a few. If akure isn't developed, do you think they will be there?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVYM1Rz3tc

Oga i domt want to derail this thread . I live in Lagos and I have also stayed in ota ..I was at akure some weeks ago

I know south west like the back of my hand ..I was at futa so you can tell those lies to those that don't know these places not me


Tell me which town in west that can compare with Onitsha and Enugu with Owerri ..let's take away Lagos

ghostmist:
i've seen like two threads created specifically to champion the yoruba cause; since i was not yoruba, i didn't bother clicking on any of them. out of respect, i stayed away, and i know most Igbos would do the same, cos we hate to intrude into other peoples affairs uninvited.
The question is:

You WHY IS THIS THREAD FILLED WITH COMMENTS FROM KNOWN IGBO-HATING MONIKERS
as if that is not enough, they're even trying to advise us on what's best for us...

You don't know these people ....they are so shameless . I wonder what and how they behave


I have seen that their Yoruba commonwealth thread and the abuses they abuse us ..yet I did not comment

That to me is dignity and self respect but look at them here


How can we continue to dwell with such a people that has lost all sense of dignity


It's pathetic and despicable to say the least



This is just an Igbo thread


Can't people see that ?

Duru1:




I do not see a slight hatred from the IPOB. The group is bold enough to tell dumbass Nigerians to shove it. They spoke the truth about the cesspit called Nigeria which happens to be a colonialist’s creation. Nigerians know for sure there is no fundamental benchmark for unity among the ethnic nation states in Nigeria. Ethnic groups are as difference as the night that follows the day.

you do not see a slight hatred and yet observe your statements and see the words you are using to describe a country of your birth and other people. Well apparently I might be too daft to get you.

patrick89:

yes! thats what sprung their greatness! quote me anywhere! yes! go and read!!
by the way who is hating here? ndigbo or nigeria state? must you insult your family to make a point? whenever your enemy is against you, it means you are in right track, but if they support you, better withdraw!
Have you been listening to world news, how countries protect their territories? hate envy and jealously is what make western countries great!!
You will not understand this because you are a black man in africa that believes so much on miracle and magic!

Well I'm sorry, I dont subscribe to your crude techniques, but then it's a free world so you are free to reason however you want to. Enhoy your fool's paradise!

Curlieweed:


This new word "hate" is apparently the latest buzzword. As usual, the sheeple regurgitate it unthinkingly.

I can certainly give examples of several episodic explosions of hatred accross Nigeria (and how many lives were lost) but with IPOB - no killings, no beatings.. Nada. Even on these boards, I can give several examples of lunatics advocating genocide on Igbos but among secessionists, no such evidence advocating mass murder of the other..

When the Scotish proposed a referendum to break away from GB, we didn't hear all these threats and hate speech by the English even though the confederation was entered willingly but in our case, any discussion about our forced Union is incomplete without threats of genocide, violence and a million war crimes. And apparently, we secessionists are the ones hating.

Fccking hypocrites!

you talk about hypocrisy and yet you aren't truthful, people walk into this thread and are grateful at how peaceful and cordial we are on our discussions, asides occasional use of curse words by you and some others in buttress of ur point, this is nairaland, the evidence is there of constant threats to the unity of Nigeria if the ipob isn't granted it's wish, every other tribes in Nigeria are regarded as animals since your motto determines that Nigeria is a Zoo, yet you talk of hypocrisy and say the ipob isn't an Intiative built of hate. Well it's very likely am too daft to understand ur analogy

patrick89:
Op and some of the contributors are sounding like charity organisation! look you don't build nation by these type of thought! Go to stamfront..org and see things for yourself! we black people have a long way to go!!

I envisaged this thread to be better than this, I believe there are people with knowledge that will school us, it's normal that weeds will grow amongst the good seeds, please ignore distractions, give us ur opinion on this matter, based on your knowledge and experience. Thanks

Please if you observe on this thread known monicker that aren't igbo or whose intention is to cause strife, let's mention such a person, but ignore him or her with no mention or response to give him or her any relevance, we Igbos may not be the best of people, but we a brothers and sisters and have rights to a discussion on issues bothering us, without interference from outsiders, thank you

juicee1:
pls mention just s things the foreigners contributed. Was it the ibos that built those things?

Anything the FG or foreigners built in lagos was inspired by Yoruba political skills. Learn from it, try to be accommodating.

What happened to the inspiration of the Yoruba political skills in

obailala:
Well I'm sorry, I dont subscribe to your crude techniques, but then it's a free world so you are free to reason however you want to. Enhoy your fool's paradise!

Give me two types of your so called technique, let's analyse them! in your own fool paradise is speaking grammar? I laugh!

patrick89:


Give me two types of your so called technique, let's analyse them! in your own fool paradise is speaking grammar? I laugh!

Please feel free and carry on hating and insulting... that's obviously what rocks your boat.

EUROBOMBER:


Stop deceiving yorself. We are yet to secure the kind of unity we need in Igboland.


Look at the Yorubas have opened a single thread for Yoruba common wealth but what have Igbos done? One threas is Enugu the pride of the east, another thread is Anambra state light of the nation. Instead of us to be looking at regional integration our people still see themselves as Anambra, Imo, Enugu, etc. What a shame.

You need to see the bitterness between Anambra and Imo people when they fight here. See the shame being displayed by Chino and Customized. I smh.

if your place is bitter my place in nnewi isn't


If you want to see bitter villages go to north and west compare with Igbo


Onye puta na ogbo ona ezuzu