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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by saintdennis(m): 11:09pm On Mar 18, 2016
truthspeaks:
Not jst Benin city, Do we even value our country's history as a whole? I wonder if history of nig is still being taught in skuls not to talk of d preservation of certain artefacts. Countries find inspiration n hope in their history n I pray nig is nt any difft

That's what I don't get... because even history students in school RARELY discuss naija history, they mainly concerned with discussing foreigners. Such a shame.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by saintdennis(m): 11:13pm On Mar 18, 2016
DeRay98:


It was not destroyed by mother nature but by the British in 1897, what they could not loot they destroyed to break the will of the bini people and deface the well known and documented historical facts other greatness and exploits of the Ancient kingdom.

Benin punitive expedition... worse still is all nollywood can conjure up is 'blackberry babe ' karashika etc..no historical movies lols. Naija wahala too many.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 11:13pm On Mar 18, 2016
Obiagelli:

Where is the peace today that they are all xtians and muslims
peace my dear is only found in developed countries where is employment for youth,sound education good amenities,places in the world where there is almost no excuse to commit a crime,places like Holland, Finland,Norway,usa,etc not really determine by the "opium of the people".
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 11:27pm On Mar 18, 2016
tbaba1234:


I am from Edo too and i am muslim. The Benin kingdom extended past what we know as benin today.
woow rare to see a Bini Muslim am a bini too,how did it happen?(na joke oh),what am saying is I have no idea we had contact with the arab or islam most Muslims in Bini relocated from other states,perhaps a wikipedia link will do,but the Bini king during 1500AD had contact with purtugal and even sent his son there,that was the first contact with christainity to benin kingdom

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by cybriz82(m): 11:28pm On Mar 18, 2016
How u tek knw? So ur mama dn finally gist u say na she be der leader wey dey chop humanbein intestine?
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by IndianBwoy(m): 11:28pm On Mar 18, 2016
Why dawdle wlover the past when the present generation can only export pr.ostitutes to the world. .
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:30pm On Mar 18, 2016
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!
Oba Ehengbuda died in battle in a bid to annex Owo. Since then, Obas stopped going to war.
If Benin could not annex Owo, how can you rank it above ancient Ife, Ibadan, Oyo etc
Yorubas have always lived in big, planned towns.
Yeye people, don't mind them. Benin that couldn't spread its tentacles wide like great Oyo empire that spreads all the way to Dahomey and Togo.
The great Oyo empire is the greatest empire in Nigeria, one of the greatest in Africa.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by tbaba1234: 11:35pm On Mar 18, 2016
erusen:
woow rare to see a Bini Muslim am a bini too,how did it happen?(na joke oh),what am saying is I have no idea we had contact with the arab or islam most Muslims in Bini relocated from other states,perhaps a wikipedia link will do,but the Bini king during 1500AD had contact with purtugal and even sent his son there,that was the first contact with christainity to benin kingdom

Islam was through trade interactions with muslim traders not necessarily Arab.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 11:37pm On Mar 18, 2016
tbaba1234:


Islam was through trade interactions with muslim traders not necessarily Arab.
okay I will like a link
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:37pm On Mar 18, 2016
saintdennis:


Benin punitive expedition... worse still is all nollywood can conjure up is 'blackberry babe ' karashika etc..no historical movies lols. Naija wahala too many.
Guy why you dey yab nollywood. Thank Launcelot Imasuen that producer/director do promote Bini Tradition and history in his movies.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by ycat: 11:42pm On Mar 18, 2016
It's because the great wall of China was real and still is. But the Benin own was imaginary and built in their mouths. There are walls like the ones mind1 showed all over Nigeria where they were built and still today though beaten up but standing.

Something a people never had can't magically appear just because they wish and believe their own lies.
autolearner:
How could we lose such treasure?
Even the Great of Wall of China is still standing.

Reminds me of when #memeHistory was trending on Twitter.
Nigerians had no other history to share save Bible Stories.....Was Such a Shame!
Could we reinstate Nigerian History back into our core courses in Junior and Secondary Classes Please!?
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 11:46pm On Mar 18, 2016
ycat:
It's because the great wall of China was real and the Benin was built in their mouths. There are walls like the ones mind1 showed all over Nigeria today though beaten up but still standing.

Something a people never had can't magically appear just because they wish and believe their own lies.
see this one you are backward in history,there are countless traces of that wall in former Benin empire,even the Europeans testify to that,don't you know that Benin empire was destroyed by the British in 1897

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by ycat: 11:49pm On Mar 18, 2016
You are just trying to cover your inferiority and making yourselves feel good.
Benin wasn't the only city that fought with British, what you once had is what you still have.
erusen:
see this one you are backward in history,there are countless traces of that wall in former Benin empire,even the Europeans testify to that,don't you know that Benin empire was destroyed by the British in 1897

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by tbaba1234: 11:51pm On Mar 18, 2016
erusen:
okay I will like a link

According to this article, Islam came from the Nupe kingdom in the late 1800s

http://www.edoworld.net/EdotourismReligion.html
Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Blackkie: 11:52pm On Mar 18, 2016
This is what we miss when the government decided not to teach Nigerian History in our schools.
I am glad seeing this.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 12:05am On Mar 19, 2016
ycat:
You are just trying to cover your inferiority making yourselves feel good.
Benin wasn't the only city that fought with British, what you once had you is what you still have.
see guy I see u have hatred for the binis(which is really unnecessary)but just a little tourism to Edo will save your ignorance ,places like udo esako,etc still have a lot ancient infrastructures or if u can't come just do a wikepedia research on Benin empire interaction with the Europeans,that is if you are a knowledge seeker,it seems you are just making unnessecary noise our of hatred for Bini history?

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by klimson: 12:08am On Mar 19, 2016
truthspeaks:
Not jst Benin city, Do we even value our country's history as a whole? I wonder if history of nig is still being taught in skuls not to talk of d preservation of certain artefacts. Countries find inspiration n hope in their history n I pray nig is nt any difft
No! History won't be thought so that younger Igbo generations won't learn about Biafran war. History won't be thought so that the larger Nigerian population will be ignorant of the causes of the war and the perculiarities of ethnic groups in Nigeria that could have necessitated the war. The game is simple--leave as much ignorance as possible, so that younger Yoruba and Hausa generations will live on heresay and wonder just why the Igbo man wants a separate existence. Promote ignorance so that the Igbo man won't be seen as a freedom fighter he is, but a villain. But we are all paying the bitter price of ignorance. Tell me any country that has succeeded without a recourse to history. One day, we shall all wake up to the bitter reality. And then, we will curse our so-called leaders.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by erusen: 12:09am On Mar 19, 2016
klimson:
No! History won't be thought so that younger Igbo generations won't learn about Biafran war. History won't be thought so that the larger Nigerian population will be ignorant of the causes of the war and the perculiarities of ethnic groups in Nigeria that could have necessitated the war. The game is simple--leave as much ignorance as possible, so that younger Yoruba and Hausa generations will live on heresay and wonder just why the Igbo man wants a separate existence. Promote ignorance so that the Igbo man won't be seen as a freedom fighter he is, but a villain. But we are all paying the bitter price of ignorance. Tell me any country that has succeeded without a recourse to history. One day, we shall all wake up to the bitter reality. And then, we will curse our so-called leaders.
I think I have started cursing them

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by VirginFinder: 12:20am On Mar 19, 2016
IkpuMmadu:


Oh not again ....this attaché things ain't working again


Nigerians relate to English quite well whereas Britons rarely relate to any Nigerian language.

Apply that to my post and decipher properly who is 'attache'.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by VirginFinder: 12:23am On Mar 19, 2016
ycat:
It's because the great wall of China was real and still is. But the Benin own was imaginary and built in their mouths. There are walls like the ones mind1 showed all over Nigeria where they were built still today though beaten up but standing.

Something a people never had can't magically appear just because they wish and believe their own lies.

Exactly!
The 'great walls of Benin' NEVER existed.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by ycat: 12:23am On Mar 19, 2016
I say it as I see it, you are not up to that standard to hate. I don't like when cockroaches talk like an elephant. Benin was a tiny kingdom NEVER an empire. And what will I be touring in Edo when my town Ijebu Ode gets more tourist action than your whole state. You need to save yourself from shame and stop talking nonsense. What Benin has always been is exactly what you see when you look at it, the short man trying to talk big. If not allowing your lies to stick means hatred for you, the floor is yours. That Wikipedia that can be edited is your reference point is weak. You were never the story you tell about yourselves and still ain't,
erusen:
see guy I see u have hatred for the binis(which is really unnecessary)but just a little tourism to Edo will save your ignorance ,places like udo esako,etc still have a lot ancient infrastructures or if u can't come just do a wikepedia research on Benin empire interaction with the Europeans,that is if you are a knowledge seeker,it seems you are just making unnessecary noise our of hatred for Bini history?

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by ycat: 12:28am On Mar 19, 2016
They keep making up stories, and when you say something, they quickly make it about hatred someone has for them.
VirginFinder:


Exactly!
The 'great walls of Benin' NEVER existed.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by VirginFinder: 12:30am On Mar 19, 2016
erusen:
whf are u saying do u know the bini tribe dates back way longer than the Yoruba's and who the hell told you they can relate to youruba,abeg wherever you are take the next bus to Edo state,the closest language related to edo language are esan language the difference is "e" for the binis and "I"for the esans,what the Bleep are even saying about dressing,really you a clown,bini dressing is like that of Igbo or let's urhobo,the religion aspect nor just go there at all,the binis get original juju

Let me break it down:

1. Yoruba language is to Binis what English is to Nigerians.

2. Agbada/Buba & Sokoto(Yoruba outfit) is to Binis what suit, shirt and trouser is to Nigerians.

3. Ifa/Ogboni(Yoruba religion) is to Binis what Christianity is Nigerians.

Got it?

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by tbaba1234: 12:35am On Mar 19, 2016
VirginFinder:

Exactly!
The 'great walls of Benin' NEVER existed.

Based on your whims?

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:36am On Mar 19, 2016
Great wall of Benin.... I smell lies

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by VirginFinder: 12:36am On Mar 19, 2016
tbaba1234:


Based on your whims?

Bini/Benin is overhyped.
Just face it.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by tbaba1234: 12:37am On Mar 19, 2016
Gaddafithe2nd:
Great wall of Benin.... I smell lies

Based on what?

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:37am On Mar 19, 2016
VirginFinder:


Let me break it down:

1. Yoruba language is to Binis what English is to Nigerians.

2. Agbada/Buba & Sokoto(Yoruba outfit) is to Binis what suit, shirt and trouser is to Nigerians.

3. Ifa/Ogboni(Yoruba religion) is to Binis what Christianity is Nigerians.

Got it?

Ogboni a religion/occult created by Yoruba is in Benin

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by BarryX(m): 12:37am On Mar 19, 2016
VirginFinder:
Ancient Bini people saw Yorubas as big brothers to be proud of.

There are Yoruba traces (dressing/language/religion) in core Benin.
But you can't find any trace of Benin in core Yorubaland.

Also, many Binis can relate to Yoruba language.

However, the larger majority of Yorubas dont even know what the Bini dialect sounds like.

Come on!!
People especially from your part of Nigeria excuse timidity and lack of exposure to massage their ignorant embers.

Anyways, carry on.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by ycat: 12:38am On Mar 19, 2016
You can imagine how they got the rest of the images.

A history that has to be told with nothing to show for it, is a LIE!

All medieval history is told with physical evidence.

Tales by moonlight turned history, lawd!!
scholes0:
This picture is not that of Benin City, but the walls of Sungbo Eredo, an ancient Yoruba civilization in Ogun state.....take note.

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:40am On Mar 19, 2016
tbaba1234:


Based on what?
Nothing like great wall of Benin. Even in history it was the Oyo empire that had walls, urban settlement. Not to forget Queen Amina of Zazzau who built walls all over the cities and towns she conquered.
Benin is not an empire who dash una self that word "empire".

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Re: Benin City, The Mighty Medieval Capital Now Lost Without Trace by tbaba1234: 12:40am On Mar 19, 2016
VirginFinder:

Bini/Benin is overhyped.
Just face it.

There is enough literature from westerners who visited the Benin kingdom. They attested to its greatness. It is not even a subject for debate. All you need to do is read.

"The King of Benin can in a single day make 20,000 men ready for war, and, if need be, 180,000, and because of this he has great influence among all the surrounding peoples. . . . His authority stretches over many cities, towns and villages. There is no King thereabouts who, in the possession of so many beautiful cities and towns, is his equal."

— Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten (Description of Africa), 1668

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