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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:24pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
JMAN05: No no no bro that's not what I meant . I meant that assuming there was no fall by man maybe we won't know God possessed these qualities -its an opinion . So what do you think ? But isn't that different from the parent knowing what the child will become but giving birth to it anyway? Its pretty tough describing how God's prescience works 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Nobody: 5:28pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
bollify: God has the ability to foreknow the future. however, He evidently didn't use this ability during creation nor is there any need for that, since He was creating free moral agents. Since he has the ability to foretell future event, he must have been able to foretell that Adam and Eve will eat the fruit and still went ahead to not only create the fruit but placed it in the centre of the garden. Isn't that a deliberate action to make humanity suffer? No, that someone has the ability to do something does not mean that He will ALWAYS use it. God can foretell, but nothing in the scriptures shows that God foretold the aberration of Adam and Eve. Since you agree that he foresaw the future of man and still went ahead to create the fruit in the garden and at the reach of man. Also create the devil knowing he will tempt them to eat this fruit. Then that's God tempting man. It is true that ur comment is directed to him, but I think he is missing something in his reply. God didn't foretell what Adam and Eve will eventually do regarding the fruit. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by hopefulLandlord: 5:33pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I would, for your sake delete this post from my mind's eye and believe you didn't type it Pls, don't let this happen again, for your sake 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Nobody: 5:34pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: OK. My take can be seen above. Its pretty tough describing how God's prescience works I agree there is really much to learn about Him . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:52pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: That's my opinion . I clearly said we were discussing here not pontificating . And stop dismissing someone's argument as not worthy of consideration or absurd cos its a logical fallacy- stop pooh-poohing my argument instead refute it . Everyone strives to to better . |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:02pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Are you implicitly suggesting that its fallacious - cum hoc ergo propter hoc - to claim that answers to prayers are not caused by praying at that particular moment . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:17pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
JMAN05: Its good . But I want you to see this https://www.nairaland.com/3064045/does-god-think#44958235 My response to the question "Does God think " - so I tried explaining that since God has foreknowledge of events , He just needs to act out his forethoughts when the time comes . God already knows what will happen in the future and since he is above and outside of the sphere of time , he sees all of eternity’s past and eternity’s future. What do you think ? I agree there is really much to learn about Him . Yeah |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Nobody: 6:36pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I have not check out the link. But I understand it to mean that God's omniscient is inherent rather than total (which I assume prescience represents). In other words, God has the ability to foreknow the future. This does not mean that He uses this ability always. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 6:36pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:While the prayer, chant or incantation might trigger or catalyse the healing. It does not mean that an external necessarily mean that an external force responded to the 'prayer' and carried out the healing. This I think is why those miracles are not always reproducible (Not readily produced on demand). 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by bollify(m): 8:22pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
JMAN05: If I'm to understand you properly, God did not use his ability because he think his creations are perfect. However, the creation didn't turn out to be as perfect as he actually thought as can be seen in Satan and in Adam and Eve. Please don't try to tell me they were perfect before they sinned because if they were, they would never have made mistakes as there is no mistake in perfection. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:06pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Which church do you attend ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 9:13pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:It's not a popular one. Though it's fashioned after Winner's Chapel. I haven't attended in a long while though(last time Easter Sunday and before that December 31st). |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:21pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Have you ever shared a testimony in church before ? 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 9:28pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Not really. Why? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Nobody: 9:37pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
bollify: God created them as free moral agents. God's intention is to create persons who will use their free will to serve/obey Him. As such, no need to keep probing whether they will turn out to serve Him or not. If He were to view their future, and eventually correcting any perceived future anormally, will He say He is creating those who will on their own serve Him? Or is He creating persons programmed to serve Him? Granted, God can create programmed individuals, but He chose not to create humans that way. There are other inanimate things He created to do as He wants, not humans. Weather to obey Him or not is their's to make. He didnt foretell what their future will be. 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:42pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I really wanted to know if you have witnessed God's benisons in your life .Or experienced something extraordinary that would indurate your faith and make it infrangible |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 9:59pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:I haven't. The ones I thought I had now have rational explanations. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:10pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Rational explanations or what the atheists inveigled you to believe ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:23pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
JMAN05: Why do you think God does not use that ability ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 10:24pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Nope. Conclusions I arrived at myself. Now I think that apart from a personal epiphany (Paul to Damascus kind), I don't think I'd be able to ignore the 'irregularities' that abound in faith/religion. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:30pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: So what are these "irregularities" ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 10:37pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Are you serious? All the threads on Nairaland would be a good start. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:53pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I haven't seen any of those threads . We Christians have had disquisitions on probably every argument tabled by the atheists . Right now , there is nothing new . What atheists do now is to rehash old arguments - very vapid . |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 4:17pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Except that you are usually on the losing side of those disquisitions. Let's face it, the atheists have a superior argument. You have no proof- one that can withstand rigorous scrutiny. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:57pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I knew you were an atheist . Superior argument my nyash . |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 5:04pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:This made me laugh so hard. How did you arrive at this conclusion? I only try to be as objective as possible. The only thing you have is faith and reason trumps faith. You know this. 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:10pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I am not going to have a discussion with a dishonest fellow .I'm yet to see any reasonable argument from any atheist . Gosh .. bro ... you had to lie just to say this crap ? Na you oo There is no point too low for an atheist , anything -lies , deceit , pretense - they've got it all . |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Empiree: 5:34pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 5:36pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:False accusations. Please point out the lie(s). 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:54pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: The lies are : 1. That you are not atheist 2. Atheists have superior arguments You need to get acquainted with logically fallacies and false arguments like specious arguments . Most of these atheists are sophists Pay attention to the underlined words . I thought you'd be fun to discuss with , I was wrong apparently . So 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Ranchhoddas: 6:03pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:You clearly do not understand what it means to be objective. An atheist denies a Higher Power. I don't. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:07pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: And that's the lie . 3 Likes 1 Share
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