Mindfulness:
But the average Nigerian's morality is at the level of a three-year-old: I will do anything if I can do away with it.
Not: I will do what is right because my moral development extends that of a baboon.

TV01:

The bold absolutely takes the biscuit ; from someone who stole anothers husband, just because it made her happy and she coul dget away with it. Whatever the Nigerian average of which you speak is, you are way, way below it. You personify amorality


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oloyede252:
lol are you asking me that? WHen I haven't seen anybody who is gay.lady talk better tin ol

cococandy:


I guess we should ask the straight parents who raised all these gay folks in the world how they managed to achieve it.

pippimp:


You are missing the point. Personally, i believe that sex between two people of the same gender is absolutely disgusting but that is not the issue. The issue is, because i don't like it, does that mean people should not be free to do what they want as long as it does not harm me? Do you know why terrorists do what they do? Because they believe that they are right and you are wrong. Your way of life is abnormal. So, by your logic, since they believe that, then it is ok for them to kill you, right? Just because you believe their way is wrong does not mean you can impose your beliefs on them. And you might want to brush up on your history. Homosexuality has been in existence since the dawn of time. Look up greece, the Roman empire, france, and most arab countries etc. The only reason everyone is so aware of it now is because of the internet. You can't say because you don't like something you can then shackle someone else. This is why Africa is so backwards. There are many people i don't like i work with but i have to work with them and be civil. If we all all acted on our pre dispositions, this planet would be destroyed. Read up on the spanish inquisition and the crusade and you will understand why it is not a good idea to impose your beliefs on other people. What christians did then would make ISIS members look like kindergarten kids today. While you are at it, read up on Hitler and his reasons for killing six million jews. His thought process was no different from yours.

Cc cococandy

pippimp:
You are missing the point. Personally, i believe that sex between two people of the same gender is absolutely disgusting but that is not the issue. The issue is, because i don't like it, does that mean people should not be free to do what they want as long as it does not harm me?

pippimp:
Do you know why terrorists do what they do? Because they believe that they are right and you are wrong. Your way of life is abnormal. So, by your logic, since they believe that, then it is ok for them to kill you, right?

pippimp:
Just because you believe their way is wrong does not mean you can impose your beliefs on them.

pippimp:
And you might want to brush up on your history. Homosexuality has been in existence since the dawn of time. Look up greece, the Roman empire, france, and most arab countries etc. The only reason everyone is so aware of it now is because of the internet. You can't say because you don't like something you can then shackle someone else. This is why Africa is so backwards.

pippimp:
There are many people i don't like i work with but i have to work with them and be civil. If we all all acted on our pre dispositions, this planet would be destroyed. Read up on the spanish inquisition and the crusade and you will understand why it is not a good idea to impose your beliefs on other people.

pippimp:
What christians did then would make ISIS members look like kindergarten kids today. While you are at it, read up on Hitler and his reasons for killing six million jews. His thought process was no different from yours.

pippimp:
Cc cococandy

Mindfulness:


Liar! Go to church and repent or else your sadistic God will burn you in hell.


You really want me to post your bikini pictures, don't you? The shaming that is your forte will bite your azz.

Karma is a good thing.

...oh, and you got the wrong God, mine is neither sadistic, nor eternally burns people in hell

Mindfulness:


In other words you didn't know what you were talking about. I thought so.

TV01:

You are a real dullard. And full of false bravissimo. You are trying to threaten me with my own pic ? I will post it before you do, and more. I mean really? Show us a pic of your spouse-snatcher sef now, or one of the specimen you stole. And please, you are only dedicated hype-master for my left buttz cheek, not the whole thing - we don't want you to die of excitement overload now do we .

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^{...oh, and you got the wrong God, mine is neither sadistic, nor eternally burns people in hell}

Mindfulness:


Oya!

The picture!

But don't cheat, I want the one where you flaunt your azz in your black bikini!

If you don't post it, I will spam the entire forum to show how the righteous one, the biggest moralizer of all presents himself on a public forum.

Pronto TV!



And the God of in.cest. Adam fvcked Eve and their children must have procreated with one another.

^{...consanguinity would not have been a problem with a near pure genome, and a necessity with but a handful of people. You can't out-think your creator, or even one of his most unworthy vessels}

TV01:

It will go up before the weekend is over, I'll resurrect the other thread, so as not to spam this one. Tender cogent arguments here instead of hiding behind my big black butts ...but please hype it a little more as is your hype-master remit . Lot's of old cargoes, votaries, deluded single mamas, inverterate adulters etc. etc. who will be glazed of eye . I'm off out now, as I guess are others. it's the weekend don't you know? You sre so 1 dimensional.

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^{...consanguinity would not have been a problem with a near pure genome, and a necessity with but a handful of people. You can't out-think your creator, or even one of his most unworthy vessels}

TV01:

So this is the vaunted understanding of individual liberties, freedoms and rights that makes you feel everyone who does not share it resides in the absence of all light .

How does the topic of the OP harm you? Why is incest wrong?
Is individual harm to you the only thing you could come up with? What about a "social cost", which burdens the collective, is that not a consideration ?


Straight to false equivalence, I actually hoped, secretly wanted there to be something more. My bad.

Because I don't feel deviant behaviour should be normalised or taught to children as such, or people forcibly made to consider it morally good and celebrate it - when it it is unequivocally deleterious for society - makes me a terrorist, wanting to kill others

Which belief have I sought to impose? I have taken a well reasoned position that same sex intimacy is at best dysfunctional and should not be normalised. Likewise other forms of deviant sexual behaviour, of which there is a long list. Outside that, how they abuse themselves is down to them.


I clearly stated this behaviour has been at the best on the periphery of all societies throughout all time and you make a statement suggesting I did not know it had been extant since the dawn of time


I should read up? . What has anything that has been said that suggested crusades or an inquisition. Do you consider histrionics a discussion tool?


I should read up?
What was the genesis of the crusades? How many died? The crusades where primarily a defensive reaction to marauding Islamic bloodletting. They were not expansionary be it in an imperial or religious sense. And the bloodletting that continues till this day. There has been a wholesale unabated genocide of Christians in the middle east. Have you the faintest of clues?

And I note your sly support for ISIS. You are the type of terrorist sympathiser the West could do without. Please return home as soon as your visa expires

Was Hitler a Christian. He was a humanist, only such believe in racial supremacy. So, your charter of rights is that everyone is free to do whatever, as to take collective moral positions makes one a terrorist, crusader, or Hitlerian .



Coco has already started to drop her absurdly reductionist one liners which stymie, rather than lend nuance to a discussion.


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Timbuktou:


Oh, now I understand. You can't be begging me and be telling me how to live my life eh?

Mindfulness:


Of course!

Then let's rely on the research carried out by the Crackhaus Research Institute: how many gay people do you know who were born before the 80s?

Now ask me how many I know who were born in Europe?
And the answer will be exactly the same.

Beer parlor arguments.

Timbuktou:


He no longer needs to bathe to de-Nigerianise. His de-Nigerianisation is complete. You no see the terms wey he dey take describe us; 'you', 'them', 'that', etc. That nigga hometown is now Brooklyn.

Mindfulness:


I don't know what your obsession with Germany is but there are international standards that lay out how many percent of a given population need to be interviewed for the research to be considered representative. Your Catholic school didn't teach you that? I am not surprised.

Now ask me how many Europeans born before the 80s I know who are gay and the answer will be the same.

I considered you smart. You are disappointing here. Get a hold of your emotions and debate like the genius you consider yourself to be.

Mindfulness:


No substance at all. In your desperation you have even started to insult my family. It's ok.

Mindfulness:
Do you really think that I will have serious discussions with you after seeing this picture?

Mindfulness:
I choose where you post the pictures. Are you going to finally post it or should I do it for you?

Mindfulness:
If you don't post it, I will spam the entire forum to show how the righteous one, the biggest moralizer of all presents himself on a public forum.

pippimp:
It is utterly embarrassing that this simple concept of rights, liberties and freedom is so difficult for most people to understand. How hard is this to comprehend?

pippimp:
The issue is not whether i approve of homosexuality, incest, etc, but the right of people to do whatever they want as long as it does not harm another person or hinder other peoples rights, or against the law.

pippimp:
We cannot all be the same. It is just not possible. We cannot like everyone we see or know. What separates us from Animals is our ability to co exist despite our differences.

pippimp:
Who made you judge jury and executioner. Trying to make someone conform to your beliefs has been proven by history to be disastrous.

pippimp:
Why is this so difficult to understand for God's sake? Imagine a world where let's say someone like Muhammed had force everyone to be muslim, how would that have worked out for you? How would it have been if the crusaders had made everyone christian? I'm pretty sure you are against it depending on what religion you follow. So, if you are against that, then why would you want to force yours on another person? No one seems to be able to answer that question.

TV01:

Your embarrassment is your woeful inability to clearly articulate what you mean, hence the resort to pious sloganeering.


How abjectly pitiful your mewling sounds . What is a right? Is the law the base or sole arbiter of what is morally right or wrong ?

Where in jurisprudence, religion or anyplace else is a homosexual defined? There are only homosexual acts. To fall for the simplistic ruse of men claiming intrinsic identity to justify their deviant ways, then arguing for unique categorisation and rights associated with that false premise, is a bare-faced fraud one does not need to be educated to see through.

Why is bestiality wrong? why is paedophilia wrong? Some "homosexuals" have argued that sexual contact with minors is often beneficial, whilst others are actively campaigning for a reduction in the age of consent.

If a person is persecuted for not wanting to be party to homosexual acts or celebrations of sodomy due to conscience or religious reasons, how are his rights not being violated? What wrong has he done, what so called right has he denied by simply declining.

What & whom determines what is harm, especially at the societal level. Are individual rights and freedoms totally oblivious to the collective. flourishing?


What are you even trying to articulate here?


Histrionics again. Where have I said anyone has to conform to my beliefs? Yet everyone has to conform to your "let everyone do as they please, as long as they don't "harm" anyone rubric


When it comes to our collective norms and morés everyone has to exercise degrees of restraint to ensure the flourishing of the whole. Islam is still hell-bent on forcibly converting the whole world under pain of death. The crusades where a response to that threat.

And quit with the baseless assertion that anyone is trying to force their beliefs on you. Why are those who believe marriage is a male/female institution being forced to agree that it is unsexed and participate against their will? It is "enlightened" progressive tyrants like yourself who are forcing their beliefs on everyone.

You and the rest of the GDT's on here really need to learn the difference between enlightenment and hive-mind indoctrination. It's almost as wide as the gulf betwixt truth and falsehood.


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pippimp:
And yet you could not answer one simple question. What gives you the right to impose your beliefs on others? How and why is this so difficult?

TV01:
And where did I claiim or assert such a right? No answers, so hide under bogus assertions .


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pippimp:
I honestly believe you confuse yourself in an attempt to sound eloquent. My argument has always been about the freedom of everyone to do as they wish as long as the safety or rights of others are not trampled on. Obviously you disagree with this else you would not have been so ardent in countering all my comments. Every single comment you've made so far is an assertion to such a right to dictate and impose your views on others. Or don't you read/comprehend what you write before posting them?

TV01:

You've never posted anything that anyone, with any discernment has taken seriously. Now you have your fixation with my fundament as an excuse.

- you must be mistaking me for the 2nd hand man you stole . You, "choose where I post my picture" . The picture is mine to post or not. I can post, re-post and un-post as I choose . Don't confuse me with the weakling you have at home. Is it money you use to control him or was it for "papers"? We know it ain't with your looks or finery .

Come, has anyone here begged Mindlessness not to post? I already told you your level. You remain pegged . Hype-master for half of my buttz (probationary ). Can you hear yourself? You will devote your time to posting - in addition to your constant discussing - my picture over NL? Just remember the post is unpaid .

A sclerotic and dried-out old boiler threatening me, with my own picture. Needless to say, whether you post it or not, my stock can only rise . Although I appreciate it will stimulate you obvious obsession with me . Of course you can post your own "bulldog swallows fly cum pig with lipstick face", or your beached whale body, or perhaps that of the carcass of a man you no longer find in the least bit attractive .

What a loser


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crackhaus:

What fuckery is this?
Is this you getting hurt or wha'...

When you were bleating down your high-horse about exposure, travelling, and what-nots trying to be like the modern-day Christopher Columbus, you hadn't taken your bath then right?

crackhaus:

Obsession indeed.
Aren't you the one who could never stop yapping about Germany upandan these boards?

Talk about an irony.


Give the answer since you asked yourself already..


This is both funny and tragic.

Like I give a rat's hairy arse what you consider smart, or what you find disappointing.

Mindfulness:


The righteous and morally superior TV insulting other people's families, not only mine. No problem. We don't care.
In Michelle Obama's voice: When they go low, we go high!

@bold

Dullard, I have your picture as well.

But I know why you won't post it here again even though it would perfectly fit into the context of homos.exulaity.

Old man flaunting his azz on NL.

Mindfulness:


Logic is foreign to you.

If people will commit crimes in the absence of law enforcement, what do we need morality for?

A sound level of morality makes people do the right thing even if no punishment is expected. This is what morality and conscience are for.

But the average Nigerian's morality is at the level of a three-year-old: I will do anything if I can do away with it.
Not: I will do what is right because my moral development extends that of a baboon.

And you have the guts to feel morally superior to Westerners.

pippimp:


What gives you the right to impose your beliefs on others? How and why is this so difficult?

TV01:

The bold absolutely takes the biscuit ; from someone who stole anothers husband, just because it made her happy and she could get away with it. Whatever the Nigerian average of which you speak is, you are way, way below it. You personify amorality


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Timbuktou:
Mindfulness, I want to know what you think about abortion for those incestuous cases where contraceptives fail since sterilisation is akin to holocausting .

Shaybebaby, you are back from hospital admission now. Instead of you to do jeje, you're jumping up and down like C.Ronaldo abi? They will finish you again, you will have high fever and escape for two years. . Are you a masochist ni?