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Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Igboid: 11:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
rlauncher: It doesn't get more hilarious than this. Like seriously? 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 12:05am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ezeagu: This is no ground for hypothesis of ifs and maybes.... in 1956 did Eastern Nigeria produce Cocoa, yes or no What part and where is the record of your production? |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by vengertime: 12:05am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MayorofLagos:put this in the trash topic. |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by rlauncher(m): 12:07am On Oct 03, 2016 |
freshdude99: Westerners voted for NCNC because it had been their political party over the years and because of their respect for the late Herbert Macaulay. Herbert Macaulay was like Mandela to southerners at the time. Besides Yoruba people are not tribalistic like some Igbo people have been trying in vain to make the world believe . Zik was thrown out of the West when the people found out what he was doing with the party- the Igbonisation of NCNC, a party founded by a Yorubaman. Time did prove that the decision by Westerners to throw out Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe from the west was right .Zik spent his presidency promoting Igbo interest at the expense of Yoruba interest in our own ancestral land by using his position and influence to installed Igbo people in almost every federal positions available in Yorubaland. However, his antics did not prevent the Westerners from progressing with their lives. We built so many industries such that every fresh graduate got employment with additional benefits such as brand new cars and apartments ss soon as they graduate from school. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 12:15am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Igboid: You are still quoting Paul Anber,a foreigner who never set foot in Nigeria but took accounts of his book from Achebe. Did Paul study the Yoruba to get a fair sense of their comparative position with Ibo? NO. He was fed by Chinua Achebe, a disgruntled man who if it was not for the benevolence of Yoruba would not have amounted to anything. Anber was the outlet Achebe used to achieve his revision and twisting of social indices from their true records. Anber said he got his information from office of statistics. That office is still in existence, bring us records from Nigerian archives showing where each region was and had accomplished in the 50s. I bet you Ibo is behind Hausa. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by ezeagu(m): 12:18am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: What does that have to do with anything? 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by leofab(f): 12:18am On Oct 03, 2016 |
timeman:you the very unserious.. The Brits handed over to him.. He wasn't no governor..QED.. |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 12:21am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ezeagu: Plenty! For one it displaces your argument against Elder Clark's assertion that East had no means to develop the way Awo developed West and Bello developed North. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by ezeagu(m): 12:33am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: MayorofLagos, if Awo and Bello developed these regions and the East was lagging behind, why does the east have the highest human development today outside of Lagos and Abuja? 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Igboid: 12:42am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: Anber work was published. And he cited his references. He is a third party with no parochial interests. I'd take his work over lies propagated by Yoruba media propaganda. Repeated by senile dumb Clark with no statistical back up. He dropped his references. It's left for you to look for them. If you doubt the authenticity of his work. Your personal opinion about him is inconsequential in the matter 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by rlauncher(m): 12:50am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ezeagu: Stop living in the Paradise of fools .Igbos are the only people in Nigeria who have been living off the developments of other regions while leaving their own states to rot. Even at that Igbos are no match for Southwesterners in levels of human development. Most of the professionals, technicians and skilled artisans are from the southwest. Whenever Igbo people want to build houses in the east, we normally take southwesterners there to build the house 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by rlauncher(m): 1:01am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Igboid: There are lots of work out there where people site references, that have been found to be misrepresenting fact. In fact, it is well known in the 50s and 60 s that the British people are always doing everything possible to limit the political power and influence of the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo by dismembering Yorubaland such that some parts were not situated within the Western region. The also put toward fallacious , unbelievable statistics that does not rhyme with the situation on ground 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 1:03am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ezeagu: Thank you for bringing up that question. I almost feel like that question deserves its own thread away from this. Ope.n a thread to discuss it and i will join to share input. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by ezeagu(m): 1:14am On Oct 03, 2016 |
rlauncher: Bring out the human development stats for the regions then we can discuss. Otherwise there's nothing else. 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 1:17am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Igboid: You should be concerned about the quality of Anber's work for many reasons. 1. He is unfamiliar with the land and people his work is based on. 2. He proposes that you were ahead of every ethnic group in development but yet unable to effectively explain why you were politically weak. 3. Of all the credits he gave to East and its people there are no substantial resource, whether in material or production on ground to back up the claims. We can show pictures of Cocoa House, Ikeja industrial layout, Ilupeju industrial layout, Western Nigeria Broadcasting Corporation, Liberty Stadium......Ahmadu Bello Stadium, Kaduna municipality, Ahmadu Bello University and so on. Achievements that support Baba Clark's claims for West and North. Do you have pictures of East before the war and can we see how they supportAnber's claims of your developments? 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Igboid: 1:17am On Oct 03, 2016 |
rlauncher: Anything that floats your boat, bro. |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 1:18am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ezeagu: Clark just did! 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Igboid: 1:28am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: How exactly was Abner unfamiliar with the Nigerian groups. Lol! The history and achievements of Nigerian groups are well documented. You have no proof of Abner not knowing about Nigerian groups other than your bias. Politically weak as how? What's the link between political power and economic prosperity in this case? The North is supposed to be the most politically strong group in Nigeria today, yet the most backward in all ramifications. In terms of the era in discuss, Ndiigbo were politically stronger than Yorubas. Of the three regions,we had two Igbo premiers in Osadebey and Okpara. What substantial resource do you speak of? The East always had coal, palm oil and even Cocoa. You have no point here once again. Your assessment is rather subjective without facts and figures. This is onitsha during the era in discuss: https://www.nairaland.com/2497740/vintage-pictures-onitsha-anambra-before Imagine asking me to start posting pics? To what's end? 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by MayorofLagos(m): 1:36am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Igboid: You guys just throw out list of abstracts. I said we can wrap up the argument to show who is on side of truth. Pictures says it all. We can support Clark with pictures of his claims. Can you bring pictures to support the developments you claim in Anber's fallacies? 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by ikechu1: 2:00am On Oct 03, 2016 |
sunnyb0b0: Someone should inform Clark he does need to lie to force One Nigeria down everyone's throat. |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by ikechu1: 2:02am On Oct 03, 2016 |
I'm just loving this argument. Igboid I stay learning a lot from you. Salute to your brain my brother. 2 Likes |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by orunto27: 4:10am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Let's go back to either 4 or 6 Autonomous Zones encompassing autonomous States. |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by freshdude99(m): 7:22am On Oct 03, 2016 |
rlauncher:Sometimes I wonder whether empty tanks like you read wat u type before posting. You know the obvious wen it comes to competing with the igbos (competence wise). So leave all this ur yeye talk. Why was wasn't Awo made the president or even prime minister if he was so good and accepted by all |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by freshdude99(m): 7:54am On Oct 03, 2016 |
rlauncher:Really? Yorubas don't worship their politicians? Na wa o... Wat version of craze are u suffering from sef As far as am concerned Yorubas championed this present administration and if osinbajo will come out on national TV and say all those calling for restructuring are mad. Osinbajo is Tinubu's stooge, so as far as am concerned the Yoruba nation has betrayed entire southerners once again to the glaring eyes of the whole world. Besides pre-independence was Lagos a country? How can a learned man like u be typing rubbish. If Lagos is not in western region, then where wad it then and now. Or is it because Ibadan bested it then that's why u talking nonsense here. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by SIRTee15: 8:14am On Oct 03, 2016 |
freshdude99: competence u say....... is that why zik appointed a non medical doctor as the first CMD of UCH...... At a time the country already had medical Doctors who were professors...... abeg zik knew what he was doing when he chose to become a ceremonial president under a govt largely dominated by a party who had an unrivalled hatred for his kith and kin...... |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by KINGwax007(m): 8:41am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MadamExcellency:is it not better to be mute than talk rubbish? Even after jigawa was carved out if Kano, did u knw how many Lagos u will remove from Kano or jigawa? Visit ur Atlas bro 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by SIRTee15: 8:50am On Oct 03, 2016 |
freshdude99: point of correction..... tinubu is not the voice of Yoruba people..... he does not speak for south west region. tinubu speak for his pocket and his imperialistic tendencies....... 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by freshdude99(m): 9:31am On Oct 03, 2016 |
SIRTee15:Bros calm down. Can u tell me wat demands the health workers were demanding for during those strike during GEJ regime? Their demand was that not only doctors should be made to head health agencies. So Zik was futuristic in his thoughts by appointing a non doctor the CMD back then |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by freshdude99(m): 9:36am On Oct 03, 2016 |
SIRTee15:Here they come again! Did u vote for APC in the last election or not? |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Igboid: 9:41am On Oct 03, 2016 |
ikechu1: Brother, I have learnt alot from you too. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by SIRTee15: 9:49am On Oct 03, 2016 |
freshdude99:I'm from ijebu and we voted PDP in the last election...... 40% of Yoruba voted PDP in the last election...... SW and NC regions were the areas that showed a semblance of independent minded voters in the last national election.... |
Re: Clark Spills The Beans On What Each Region Contributed To Nigeria. by Nobody: 9:50am On Oct 03, 2016 |
MadamExcellency:Edwin Clark should STFU! He was from the Western Region and wasn't in tune with what was happening in the Eastern Region. No wonder it was this same mindset he used to brainwash his eastern Ijaw kinsmen that nothing was happening in the east, which ultimately led to the struggles of Adaka Boro as well as the total support his kinsmen gave to Gowon during the civil war. 1 Like |
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