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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 1:15am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

Not at all bro .
Perfect. Are you on WhatsApp?
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by obinna58(m): 1:16am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



Mental slavery can defined as a state of mind where one becomes trapped by misinformation about self and the world ;and when someone is shrouded by darkness , he is lost and is vulnerable to almost anything - that's what atheism can do to you .

You lack moral compass , you have no reason to love , to have compassion , to achieve , you lack any sense of purpose and motivation because you believe there is no purpose for life , no good or evil - its a sad empty life for an atheist .

According to Atheist's high priest , Richard Dawkins :

"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”


you think backwardly, Atheism has no law, being good or bad is what you choose, it's A stat of free thinking and more of facing reality you Do not require religiOus teaching to become a good person, now why mental slavery is based on religious people is because they think according to the law of Bible, now Bible was written by human like you in order to guide The world for a better living but unfortunately It composed of many mistakes and fairytales stories which seems to be a scam leading to mental slavery to believers cos they are afraid of Hell fire Hence forcing Away their freethinking ability cos they fear God in heaven lol religious people do more evil than atheists that a fact

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:17am On Oct 26, 2016
skywalker001:
your opinion

Not an opinion , its a clear fact .

If I ask you to provide tenable arguments against God's existence , you'll only bring those faulting religion . Your arguments will be solely against the existence of a personal God and religion - the deists who also believe in God can bring those arguments too because they reject religion and a personal God .

Am I lying ?

Mister , I dey tell you so . If you have problems with religion and the existence of a personal God , you are not an atheist . Evolution , Big Bang etc are puerile picayune arguments against the existence of the Supreme Being . Is the Supreme Being a personal God , that's another argument entirely .

Please evaluate you life and change your mentality ASAP .

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Mujtahida: 1:17am On Oct 26, 2016
felixomor1:


I can as well conclude that he didnt exist going by ur bolded statement.
Dont u think so?
You can so conclude and then I turned it back to you but you fail to see that I am blowing back into your face the sand you are blowing into mine as in apply to your belief in the Bible God the logic you have applied to the evidence of the existence of my grandies. Now how do you fare? Any evidence?
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:18am On Oct 26, 2016
Michael1812:
Perfect. Are you on WhatsApp?

At all . But I'm on Twitter @kingbubuman
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by mastermaestro(m): 1:19am On Oct 26, 2016
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You are a million miles away from Christianity. Go get born again first, before you can be fit enough to engage me soundly in Scriptural discussions. It isn't your mere everyday literature. Discussing with you would be flogging a dead horse. Sensual wisdom is hollow in man's walk with CHRIST. Accept JESUS CHRIST and be saved! The preaching of the Cross is foolishness to those who are headed for destruction.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:20am On Oct 26, 2016
obinna58:


you think backwardly

It looks like you don't even understand what Atheism is undecided .

This is really awkward . lipsrsealed
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by noblefada: 1:20am On Oct 26, 2016
Akdegreat:
...Gradually, I had stopped going to my church as frequently as before. They had nothing new to teach me. I also began to form my opinions using empathy, rational enquiry, logic and reason rather than religious dogma. I dropped all my superstitions in favour of evidence about the natural world and things in it. I sought to understand the cause of things rather than stare at them in awe and ascribe them to unseen forces. I accepted reality, made informed decisions about my life and took responsibility for outcome of these decisions.
I suddenly developed this 'strange' love for all of humanity irrespective of religion, culture and race, as much, I try to make it enjoyable for everyone around me. Afterall, what's the point in hoping for a blissful afterlife while living a miserable life. I never felt so happy with so much satisfaction. Unfortunately, I tend to disagree severally with religious people on some issues, especially family. It's quite disheartening that they perceive me as 'bad' & 'lost'. All these happened within the space of 3 years, just before my graduation.

I joined Nairaland earlier but recently stumbled on a post and to my amazement, I wasn't alone after all. I'd love to met some people here in person e.g Johnny, winner, sharon and Seun. You guys are great. Though the atheists make such sarcastic arguments, their points are valid most of the time, while many Christians know so little about religion. These arguments really did a good job in further weakening my belief in the Bible God. If He is there, he'd understand my reasons for doubting the Bible account of him. He should be a just judge.

- Akdegreat
If you're truly ready to know and want to be 100% sure that your decision(s) are not based on emotions or mere human reasoning, then go to this site www.livingwordmedia.org, and download free materials on any question you may have ever had about God or Christianity. I can assure that if you're patient and have an open mind, your questions will be fully and thoroughly answered and explained.
The reason why I've was once again picked up interest in topics like this, where a once supposedly "Christian" who is now atheist or on the verge of becoming one is because of what my Pastor has been saying recently, "that sometimes it is understandable for atheists and others to doubt the existence of a God they NEVER knew!" You can start with "The Wrath of God", can God actually do evil? Was He the one that really responsible for all the evil acts recorded in the old testament Knowledge is key!
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by obinna58(m): 1:24am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


It looks like you don't even understand what Atheism is undecided .

This is really awkward . lipsrsealed
you ar the one Who Need more research Abt atheism
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 1:25am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


At all . But I'm on Twitter @kingbubuman
Awwww...... I'm not on Twitter
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Wilgrea7(m): 1:26am On Oct 26, 2016
MrMystrO:


My friend, if you still believe that there is an "Ever Loving" God who will allow you to undergo the most gruesome act of Terror and eternal pain, i Mean a state of pure and constant suffering for all of eternity just because of sins you commited during just one lifetime on earth, some of which might not even warrant a stroke of cain in this short inhumane world we are currently living in right now, talkless of eternity, then its either ur mind cannot decipher the difference between Love and Wickedness, Or you simply cant decipher aincient man made logical thoughts And REAL TRUTH.

its the uninformed ones that preach eternal conscious torment... it makes God look like a sadist when they quote rev 14:11 . God isn't like that

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:26am On Oct 26, 2016
Michael1812:
Awwww...... I'm not on Twitter

We are left with PMs then grin
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 1:27am On Oct 26, 2016
Mujtahida:

You can so conclude and then I turned it back to you but you fail to see that I am blowing back into your face the sand you are blowing into mine as in apply to your belief in the Bible God the logic you have applied to the evidence of the existence of my grandies. Now how do you fare? Any evidence?

U have forgotten u are the one who first complained first that Christians are always using the bible to defend things?


Great men like Plato, Aristotle, Socrates etc? How do we know they existed?
Is it not their works, books and archives?

Dont worry, Keep blowing sand there.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Mujtahida: 1:27am On Oct 26, 2016
mastermaestro:


It's your choice! Every entity including where you work, school, and your family has a head, so does this world. GOD is the head. You will answer to HIM when the time comes. Heaven or hell, your choice to make. Others can state it euphemistically, I won't. Accept JESUS CHRIST and be saved to an eternal life with GOD in Heaven, or live as though you were your own god and secure for yourself a one-way ticket to hell.

There is no compulsion in Christianity! Choose whom you wish to serve. To GOD be the glory, I have chosen to follow JESUS CHRIST forever!

In law a contract made in the circumstances of the bolded is void as a result of the threat of an unpleasant consequence. Such a contract will not be given legal effect. Seems human beings with all our frailties do better in applying common sense rules of justice than the supposedly all wise and just God of the Bible.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by mastermaestro(m): 1:27am On Oct 26, 2016
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MrMystrO:


My friend, if you still believe that there is an "Ever Loving" God who will allow you to undergo the most gruesome act of Terror and eternal pain, i Mean a state of pure and constant suffering for all of eternity just because of sins you commited during just one lifetime on earth, some of which might not even warrant a stroke of cain in this short inhumane world we are currently living in right now, talkless of eternity, then its either ur mind cannot decipher the difference between Love and Wickedness, Or you simply cant decipher aincient man made logical thoughts And REAL TRUTH.
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Don't type the nonsense you typed up there again. You can throw your life wherever you choose to, thankfully mine is sealed in the eternally safe arms and Blood of JESUS CHRIST. Most of you claiming intellect do NOT possess a fraction of my analytical ability. You simply are a pliable set of individuals who have fallen for sweet speeches of empty-headed self-righteous miserable atheists.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Wilgrea7(m): 1:27am On Oct 26, 2016
otemanuduno:
Yahweh? That guy's so daft. Imagine how he let someone like me worship him as the Almighty God for a greater part of my life undecided Now that I've seen the truth, I am here to reveal it to all that YAHWEH IS SATAN. I am very happy right now for the Op, losing his belief in Yahweh as God Almighty, as opposed to Kingebukasblog, 4everGod and Mrpresident1 whose eyes are still covered with the darkness of the veil of yahweh(Satan). I pray they see the light soon, AMEN!

how did Yahweh force u to worship him for a greater part of your life?

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Malakh: 1:28am On Oct 26, 2016
Akdegreat if you wanna know the truth,and answers to all your questions, we can whatsapp,I'm a Pharisee of the law and the Word of Yah says the mouth of the Priest should keep knowledge and they should seek the law in his mouth, so if you want answers,I'm more than willing to tell you but put this at the back of your mind Gods create good and evil, they do whatever they please, you as a clay shouldn't find fault with the Potter, this is why He said I am that I am,I will be who I want to be.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 1:32am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

We are left with PMs then grin
Alright.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by mastermaestro(m): 1:34am On Oct 26, 2016
Mujtahida:

In law a contract made in the circumstances of the bolded is void as a result of the threat of an unpleasant consequence. Such a contract will not be given legal effect. Seems human beings with all our frailties do better in applying common sense rules of justice than the supposedly all wise and just God of the Bible.

Why atheists are perturbed each time GOD is mentioned seriously wonders me! You guys show inordinate hypertensive obsession for any matter that concerns GOD'S undeniable existence, supremacy and eternity. Stop worrying about others' belief in GOD! You, like most atheists, will certainly cry for GOD'S mercy at your final moments on this earth.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by uvalued(m): 1:37am On Oct 26, 2016
chloro:
Think Harder and God will reveal himself to You.
which is the wrong way to start...i choose HOW you play the drum and you refuse and claim HOW to play it YOUR OWN WAY ...will you enjoy the drum?
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by wiseoneking: 1:41am On Oct 26, 2016
Akdegreat:
...Gradually, I had stopped going to my church as frequently as before. They had nothing new to teach me. I also began to form my opinions using empathy, rational enquiry, logic and reason rather than religious dogma. I dropped all my superstitions in favour of evidence about the natural world and things in it. I sought to understand the cause of things rather than stare at them in awe and ascribe them to unseen forces. I accepted reality, made informed decisions about my life and took responsibility for outcome of these decisions.
I suddenly developed this 'strange' love for all of humanity irrespective of religion, culture and race, as much, I try to make it enjoyable for everyone around me. Afterall, what's the point in hoping for a blissful afterlife while living a miserable life. I never felt so happy with so much satisfaction. Unfortunately, I tend to disagree severally with religious people on some issues, especially family. It's quite disheartening that they perceive me as 'bad' & 'lost'. All these happened within the space of 3 years, just before my graduation.

I joined Nairaland earlier but recently stumbled on a post and to my amazement, I wasn't alone after all. I'd love to met some people here in person e.g Johnny, winner, sharon and Seun. You guys are great. Though the atheists make such sarcastic arguments, their points are valid most of the time, while many Christians know so little about religion. These arguments really did a good job in further weakening my belief in the Bible God. If He is there, he'd understand my reasons for doubting the Bible account of him. He should be a just judge.

- Akdegreat
Just continue your doubting spree, eternity is arround when it will surely be late to mend. Happy ArtEisT.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:43am On Oct 26, 2016
jonbellion:
hmmm so you believe that the God of the universe has remained indifferent to it's creation. Well you may not be wrong deism makes more sense than believing in a personal God
I personally think Agnostism is the best stand anyway. I mean you have to know everything to make that kind of claim that a God or Gods don't exist.

But Agnosticism believes it is impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe - it is unknowable . If you want answers , agnosticism is not the right path to follow .
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Nobody: 1:43am On Oct 26, 2016
I don't mean RCCG in particular, pentecostal churches generally. I mean they are okay but not for inquisitive people.
Wilgrea7:

you have a huge point... i was a member of RCCG. i still attend due to some duties but I've exempted myself from them. they have a serious problem
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by dalaman: 1:46am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


But Agnosticism believes it is impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe - it is unknowable . If you want answers , agnosticism is not the right path to follow .

When did your God create the universe? You claim you know he exist and you communicate withwith him. Communicate with it right now and give us the exact dayday /date he created the universe and the method /mechanism he used to created the earth.
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:52am On Oct 26, 2016
dalaman:


When did your God create the universe? You claim you know he exist and you communicate withwith him. Communicate with it right now and give us the exact dayday /date he created the universe and the method /mechanism he used to created the earth.

There are more pressing issues bro . cool
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by olagbemi118(m): 1:54am On Oct 26, 2016
Akdegreat:
...Gradually, I had stopped going to my church as frequently as before. They had nothing new to teach me. I also began to form my opinions using empathy, rational enquiry, logic and reason rather than religious dogma. I dropped all my superstitions in favour of evidence about the natural world and things in it. I sought to understand the cause of things rather than stare at them in awe and ascribe them to unseen forces. I accepted reality, made informed decisions about my life and took responsibility for outcome of these decisions.
I suddenly developed this 'strange' love for all of humanity irrespective of religion, culture and race, as much, I try to make it enjoyable for everyone around me. Afterall, what's the point in hoping for a blissful afterlife while living a miserable life. I never felt so happy with so much satisfaction. Unfortunately, I tend to disagree severally with religious people on some issues, especially family. It's quite disheartening that they perceive me as 'bad' & 'lost'. All these happened within the space of 3 years, just before my graduation.

I joined Nairaland earlier but recently stumbled on a post and to my amazement, I wasn't alone after all. I'd love to met some people here in person e.g Johnny, winner, sharon and Seun. You guys are great. Though the atheists make such sarcastic arguments, their points are valid most of the time, while many Christians know so little about religion. These arguments really did a good job in further weakening my belief in the Bible God. If He is there, he'd understand my reasons for doubting the Bible account of him. He should be a just judge.

- Akdegreat
kip this at the back of ur mind: a fool says in his heart, there is no God...I almost became a fool like u r becoming. so, I understand ur stand. Ur search for knowledge brought u to this point. With much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief
Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Mujtahida: 1:54am On Oct 26, 2016
mastermaestro:


Why atheists are perturbed each time GOD is mentioned seriously wonders me! You guys show inordinate hypertensive obsession for any matter that concerns GOD'S undeniable existence, supremacy and eternity. Stop worrying about others' belief in GOD! You, like most atheists, will certainly cry for GOD'S mercy at your final moments on this earth.
Calm down. I thought we are carrying on a sane conversation, why are you working yourself into a frenzy. Just know I am not an atheist. I simply do not believe in the Bible God. I was a Christian but now I live my life like even though I believe God exists he has no immediate effect on my life. And if the bolded is true of your God he will have mercy on me when I cry for as your book says he is loving towards all he has made; his mercies endures forever; mercy triumphs over judgment etc. it seems you yourself do not believe in all this things said about your Bible God. You are just like your God - bitter, threatening, vindictive, vengeful, exasperated. Oya let me see how much of a Christian you are : turn your other cheek jare

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Mujtahida: 2:02am On Oct 26, 2016
felixomor1:


U have forgotten u are the one who first complained first that Christians are always using the bible to defend things?


Great men like Plato, Aristotle, Socrates etc? How do we know they existed?
Is it not their works, books and archives?

Dont worry, Keep blowing sand there.

Did Plato or Aristotle or Socrates ask you to believe in them? Did they demand anything from you? Did they offer you promises and threats as inducements for forming a relationship with them? Did they claim to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, infinite, changeless? That's why I say that for the kind of claims Christians make about God a book is not good enough. Carl Sagan said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I have blown more sand into your face

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by dalaman: 2:03am On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


There are more pressing issues bro . cool

No, the question exposes you and the fraud you have been claiming all along. If you truly know that your God exist and you communicate with it as you claim you should be able to give us specific answers to simple questions. When did your God create the universe? You just claimed that you can not know anything with agnosticism and that it is not the right path to follow. What can you know with your own religion? Communicate with your God already and tell us when exactly he created the universe. I know you'll prefer to talk about nonsense drivel instead of answering direct questions that will expose you and the fact that you know nothing about anything.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by cloudgoddess(f): 2:06am On Oct 26, 2016
Akdegreat:

I suddenly developed this 'strange' love for all of humanity irrespective of religion, culture and race, as much, I try to make it enjoyable for everyone around me. Afterall, what's the point in hoping for a blissful afterlife while living a miserable life. I never felt so happy with so much satisfaction.

Lennycool:

This is so true, being an atheist filled me with a deeper appreciation for life. It gave me something I never had with Christianity, which teaches you that the world was made for humans, this fills you with so much arrogance. The world is going to end anytime soon so we all shouldn't care anyway. Jesus is coming.
As an atheist I see the world as an interconnected system, we need to preserve it. Last time a toad entered my house I couldn't even kill it, I know and accept it plays a role in our ecosystem as do all life.

I know this feeling and it's beautiful. A sense of humbleness and connectedness, combined with wonder, curiosity, and a deep appreciation for life, earth, and this universe.

From this standpoint the Abrahamic worldview just looks far too human-centric, egotistical, and greedy. Not to mention boring.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Mujtahida: 2:16am On Oct 26, 2016
mastermaestro:



You are a million miles away from Christianity. Go get born again first, before you can be fit enough to engage me soundly in Scriptural discussions. It isn't your mere everyday literature. Discussing with you would be flogging a dead horse. Sensual wisdom is hollow in man's walk with CHRIST. Accept JESUS CHRIST and be saved! The preaching of the Cross is foolishness to those who are headed for destruction.
I gave my life to Christ, did the whole Christian thing, prayed, fasted, read books, the Bible, went to church, tried to live as a Christian. It all turned out to be bullshit. I took my life back and like a man I will bear the consequences if there are any for I cannot worship a God who cannot speak, I cannot live without personal experience of God, I cannot relate to God through a book! I died worshipping and serving such a God. I feel more alive now that I took back my life than when it was in the hands of your Jesus. I see the sun, moon, stars, the wonders and bounties of nature and that my brother is God for me.

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Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by felixomor1: 2:19am On Oct 26, 2016
Mujtahida:

Did Plato or Aristotle or Socrates ask you to believe in them? Did they demand anything from you? Did they offer you promises and threats as inducements for forming a relationship with them? Did they claim to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, infinite, changeless? That's why I say that for the kind of claims Christians make about God a book is not good enough. Carl Sagan said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I have blown more sand into your face

Them demanding anything bears no relationship with debating or questioning their existence.
The two are mutually exclusive.
I dont know where u are reasoning from.

Moreover, which claims do Christians make that is not already explained even in archeology or supernatural happenings or prophecies fulfilled?

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