The Arabs are still fighting for Palestine.

look at both crowns and tell me it’s the same the crown the ugbodu king wears is a Yoruba crown

Exactly!
Immediately I saw the pics I knew it wasn't Yoruba crown because my Father has many of them at home.

Nonaira1:




Do you even READ what you quote.

This is where you got the quote from NAIRALAND!!!
https://www.nairaland.com/2837325/where-yoruba-igbo-peoples-meet

And a little research of the exact quote from the statement pulls up ONLY nairaland (evidenced by the screenshot)

When clicked on the first post made on Nairaland accredited that post as his, the author aka alj.harem who is well known on this NL for fabrication posted this link as the source (screenshot provided).

When clicked on the source provided, the article is NON EXISTANT ( screenshot provided)



See what desperation gets una to.

Question why would the king "trying to prescribe the language" according to you if it's highly spoken?
You the one that even said it and ironically enough, you alone contradicted your own self all in your attempt to attache by force. Go to Ugbodu or any olukumni town and I bet you all my savings you can count those fluent in olukumi in your hands. Go and research the people you desperately attache by force to. Visit them sef since you desperate to attache to them so bad

Will you just it? Dumb Youtube reading Osu.

Yyeske:
No shame, of all the Yorubas on nairaland, nobody can give me the meaning of Yoruba in the language or even examples of names of people and places with Yoruba prefix or suffix.

What's this one saying? Just say you're blind.

Nonaira1:


I don't give two bleeps about yoruba history or yoruba dressing style. I care only about una attache by force to my community. Until you lots stop trying to sneak una selves into aniomaland and stick only to una desperately attache to iteskiri, I will leave y'all alone. Since una are snakily wanna attache to anioma, I'll kerp letting una know how pathetic una look.

Look at this Osu Immigrant.. He has nothing to say when showed of his foolery.

GBTYO:
Pathetic liar you are...

The term Yoruba was coined by Sahelian scholar.

Much of the early written works of Yoruba history by the likes of Ajayi Crowther referenced this same Songhai Muslim scholar. The word Yoruba came from him and was propagated by the likes of Ajayi Crowther into the 19th and early 20th century vocabulary.

Never ever in pre-colonial times did the people now known as Yoruba ever refered to themselves as Yoruba.

So that makes OP (me) to be 100% accurate in my assertion that the term Yoruba was coined by an Arab Muslim foriegner

Hehehe....the 'juju those Yoruba people cooked for you is really working. Chai! You are so obsessed with their history...that you had to devote a whole thread to it!

igbodefender:

You are historicaly iliterate and intellecuualy poor . Your brain is a desert. There's nothing there, just empty space where trees of knowledge should be. Poor you.

Did you even realise what you're saying? Are you saying I'm Ibo as an Ondo guy? You need to be flogged.

Diademk07:

Did you even realise what you're saying? Are you saying I'm Ibo as an Ondo guy? You need to be flogged.

Come and try na. And don't put words in our mouth.

Nonaira1:


Ironically enough nothing to support your staement except nairaland post from a well known fabricated on NL and a blog that copied the NL post.

Ironically enough all the well known people from that community, not ONE is claiming yoruba including one who was a member of a music group consisted of predominately yorubas.

Ironically enough when the ugbodu king became a lawyer, all of whom in attendance to celebrate it, all of who Ugbodu none had yoruba names or dressed like yoruba despite it was an Ugbodu traditional celebration
http://www.cshowcaseonlinenews.com/2017/04/thanksgiving-mass-in-honour-of-oloza-of.html?m=1

Ironically enough a king that attends every anioma celebration including aniocha celebration and not ONE yoruba own is Yoruba

Desperation is sickening.

I repeat again Go and force am be Yoruba. Visit their towns and start forcing am since una are that desperate

We can only see the desperation from your end. Osu immigrant.

igbodefender:
Come and try na. And don't put words in our mouth.

Goan sit and stop peddling your moolight tales.

Nonaira1:


Oh and btw Agbor people ARE NOT olukumi nor do they speak Yoruba. The second language agbor people speak beside igbo is Bini. Tomorrow now ogwashi uku and Asaba would start being yoruba speakers too. Ndi ara

Desperate to be Deltans and attaching to every community una can think of. PATHETIC!!!

Agbor first language is Ika. Second Ozara or so. You're so pathetic and dumb

Nonaira1:


Nah
Zeal onyecheme, an olukumi, was claiming chinese

Rita odika, an olukumi, was claiming chinese

Dr. Anyacheme, an olukumi, was claiming chinese

Helen, an olukumi, was claiming Chinese

Nduka Ugbade, an olukumi, was claiming chinese

Afam Nkemdiche, an olukumi, was claiming chinese

Biko don't mind those chinese people not calling themselves yoruba. Don't mind them abeg

None claimed Ibo though. Get that sunk in. They are simply Olukumi. They may choose to have an independent identity like the itsekiri did but that doesn't mean a stupid Osu like yourself can claim them.

Diademk07:

Goan sit and stop peddling your moolight tales.

You will not dictate what we say or don't say. The only option you have is to counter our arguments with intelligent facts if can muster such. Otherwise STFU.

Again, what is it we won't hear on nairaland?

How is Oba an igbo word, yet the Oba is Ogbaland not Obaland? Both Oba and Ogba are still Yoruba anyway. The only place you hear titles like that are in Yorubaland. Examples are Oluwo of Iwo, Olubadan of Ibadan, Olowu of Owu and Olugbo of Ugbo among others. It's certain the ancestors of the Olukumi are from Ile Ife, but how does that concern Igbos?

The only place all the names you mentioned have meaning is Yoruba. Remember, you Igbos are originally forest dwellers, and those Yoruboid groups have probably been living on the land before civilization brought you out of the forest to cohabitate with them. It's difficult for Aborigines to lose their language, reason the native Americans, the Australoid and the Olukumi have had their language preserved despite being surrounded by strange cultures.

igbodefender:
Point of correction: Oba was originaly and still is an Igbo word. It was the title of the Obatalas of Ife who were also called 'Oba Igbo'.

Today, the traditional ruler of Ogbaland in Rivers State is Oba of Ogbaland. His ancestors were also Lucumi aborigines of Ife.

0monnak0da:

I disagree

Are you familiar with Bénin Republic at all? Do you know the most spoken language in Bénin Republic? If you disagree,does not change the fact as it concern the name‘, Anago'.

Cheers

Nonaira1:


This entire thread says otherwise



Does not look like it based on una desperation on this thread. Like I said before you should go to olukumni and start forcing am as yoruba. Attache by force desperados

In psychology, people tend to view other people from their own perspective. They think if I can do it other people can do it too. But you are wrong nonaira Olukumi people have never identified with Yoruba people in anything except in ancestral origin, and we are OK with that just the same way we cannot do anything about Yoruba people in Ghana, Sierra-Leon, or Benin Republic. We are happy and grateful to God for who we are and where we are..

We don't suffer from inferiority complex like you people who constantly think that for as long as Nigeria remains you will always be a Fulani slaves

Like I said before, Olukumi people decides how they want to live their own lives. .

Proudly Yoruba!

Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria

Olu317:
Are you familiar with Bénin Republic at all? Do you know the most spoken language in Bénin Republic? If you disagree,does not change the fact as it concern the name‘, Anago'.

Cheers

I still disagree

GBTYO:


Pathetic liar you are...

The term Yoruba was coined by Sahelian scholar.

Much of the early written works of Yoruba history by the likes of Ajayi Crowther referenced this same Songhai Muslim scholar. The word Yoruba came from him and was propagated by the likes of Ajayi Crowther into the 19th and early 20th century vocabulary.

Never ever in pre-colonial times did the people now known as Yoruba ever refered to themselves as Yoruba.

So that makes OP (me) to be 100% accurate in my assertion that the term Yoruba was coined by an Arab Muslim foriegner

It does not matter who coined the name. Even the name christian was coined by idol worshipers. Does that in any way negate the essence of Christianity.

[s]

Nonaira1:


Do you people ever have Shame at all? Seriously Afonjas does your clan ever have shame at all? How many times do we have to tell you people THERE ARE NOT ANY YORUBA IN ANIOMA LAND!!!! Stop repeatedly trying to attach unaselves to aniocha through olukumni. We no want una!!!! The olukumni history traces them to yoruba yes but today they are not yoruba. The community in question don't claim una. Even the few celebrities from that side have never once claimed una yet you people just can't stop this patheticness. Please stivk to itsekiri you've been claiming and leave Aniocha land alone. Abeg. We don't want una!!!

[/s] If your clan have shame, they wouldn't have had many version of where you come from up to the point of still looking for your root in 2018.

Yyeske:
In as much as I hate tribal nairaland wahala, I'll want to set the record straight on this.
Igbo means people in the Igbo language and that is why some names of people and places all over Igboland have an Igbo prefix.
Igboukwu is in Anambra and it means great people, Igbokwe means the people agree, Igboanugo means the people have heard etc. Just the few examples I can think of for now. So the word Igbo has a meaning in the Igbo language.

If igbo means people, what then does NDI means In igbo. Keep deceiving yourself. People ko, animal ni.

rlauncher:


In psychology, people tend to view other people from their own perspective. They think if I can do it other people can do it too. But you are wrong nonaira Olukumi people have never identified with Yoruba people in anything except in ancestral origin, and we are OK with that just the same way we cannot do anything about Yoruba people in Ghana, Sierra-Leon, or Benin Republic. We are happy and grateful to God for who we are and where we are..

We don't suffer from inferiority complex like you people who constantly think that for as long as Nigeria remains you will always be a Fulani slaves

Like I said before, Olukumi people decides how they want to live their own lives. .

Proudly Yoruba!

Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria

Your own brethren on this thread is contradicting you. Aren't they wailing because i said they aren't yoruba currently and not claiming y'all.
Keep deceiving yourself. Still attache by force desperado.

Of course you don't suffer that. You've been their slaves since illorin incidient and till date sees nothing wrong with your servitude. The Bleep. Do we look like we care

0monnak0da:

I still disagree

Pas problème

Firstpage:


What does attending events have to do with anything. The fact they don't deny where they come from is enough proof for anybody with brain.

Have you seen any Olukumi deny where they come from? answer that question you fool.

Since y'all attache by force desperado are all over NL shouting they are "yoruba clan in aniomaland" then obviously as a yoruba clan, they should be present/attend in any yoruba traditional event as they do for all anioma and aniocha event. Provide that to prove your assumptions of their yoruba claiming. The fact they've NEVER attended any yoruba events with the rest of your obas or EVER extended an olive branch to una is more than enough prove they don't see themselves as yoruba but no, you desperados would continously try to attache by force despite them ignoring y'all.

Know the difference between migration pattern and identity idiota. Everybody migrated from somewhere.
Several years ago, P.E.OKWOLI, an igala historian wrote an article stating that Umueri/Aguleri and Igala have the same ancestry due to similar migration pattern. Do you see either Aguleri claiming igalas as igbo or igalas claiming Aguleri and umueri as Igalas despite the migration pattern...Hell NO

Even Asaba we have both igbo and Igala ancestry. Do you see Igalas claiming Asaba as Igalas despite we accept our igala ancestry....Hell NO.

Arochukwu's have Ibibio ancestry. Do you see Ibibios claiming Arochukwu's as ibibio despite they accept their ibibio ancestry....hell NO

Although onitsha migration pattern is still a controversial as there are two stories to it but we all know Onitsha has some bini ancestry. Do you see bini claiming onitsha as bini due to ancestry.....hell NO

Why is that? They aren't attache by force desperado like you people.

The olukumi accepts their migration pattern, never once denied it, but till date, they aren't calling themselves yoruba. You lots out of your desperation have since use their migration pattern to forcefully attaching yourselves on them despite they show no signs they are interested. A perfect example is ZEAL of styl plus. When the media was labeling him as the igbo guy in the group. He could have easily made an announcement that he's yoruba like the rest of his members in the group considering he is olukumi but he NEVER once did. NOT once. What does that tell you? attache by force desperados.

Like i told your brother, go to their towns and start forcing them as yoruba since you lots are that desperate. Pathetic!!!

igbodefender:
These trolls wont post any of that because they simply don't have it.

They are a disgrace to their tribe.

Sad really. All they have is post they made on nairaland and reposted on blogs. So sad and shameful. I feel sorry for them. I hope they finally find a clan in delta that accept to be yoruba so they can stop their desperation. I pity am

igbodefender:
Point of correction: Oba was originaly and still is an Igbo word. It was the title of the Obatalas of Ife who were also called 'Oba Igbo'.

Today, the traditional ruler of Ogbaland in Rivers State is Oba of Ogbaland. His ancestors were also Lucumi aborigines of Ife.

Wow - u eboes can lie

And of course Olukunmi people of Delta state are descendants of Yoruba people. Nobody debates this except a fool.

0monnak0da:


To feel good the guy who walks in and finds his houseboy on top of his mother will tell himself and anyone who cares to listen that they were cleaning furniiture or that he fell on top of her blown by a strong wind from the ceiling fan.In fact he will persuade himself that it is true.

Achebe wrote Things fall Aparf for the consumption of forreigners? Really? Tell yourself that until you believe it. You folk ae renowned liars


Just like the fool who said Onitsha Market is the largest in the Milky Way and the US Army buys drones there. You hear that and you are waitig for the smiley but he is dead serious

Another dunce said Orji Uzor Kalu is so rich the CBN begged him take his money abroad because the could not cope.They had no space.
So he went and the World Bank could only accept half and the IMF took the other half

Where is the logic in your statement. He wrote Things Fall Apart for Foreigners? Why? Later he stopped aand changed? Really? Who was he writing for then? Why?

You folk lie like children ,6 year old children. You have no understanding of fiction and reality

Kindly explain why Igbo is so unpalatable to foreigners but Ogbuefi Ezeudu, Okonkwo , Ikemefuna and Obierika are acceptable to foreign stomachs. Why not Obuefi ? Why Ogbuefi?

I think there is something wrong with them.Maybe stunted growth of their brain or worse than that.They even said olukumi people were Igbo.Itshekiri and Olukumi people were Yoruba.They
migrated from Ife/Oyo but they are no more Yorubas but their root is Yoruba.Black Americans mostly were Yoruba,Igbo,Kenyans etc but they are no more Yoruba,Igbo etc except if they wish.By 1920,were the Olukumi people walking all over the place like the Igbo.
NO,they never did because their root is elsewhere. The raw truth is that Igbo means slaves according to what I read somewhere.
They were slaves to a minority tribe... Ijaw..too.

Yyeske:
I asked first, you can help your fellows and bail them out if you know any in Yorubaland

No wonder an Igboman said Igbos are the most foolish in the world.Why don't we have IjawEteke or BritainTed or whatever stupid prefix or suffix only mumus can think of.
Igbo real meaning is Slave.
Igboukwu means Ukwu slave.
Your name is very potent because it had made you slaves to a minority tribe like the Ijaw.They were your slavemasters yesterday,today maybe tomorrow.

NRI was the only Kingdom that existed then and their people called you Igbo then which meant and still means slave.

Have you wondered why you have not produced an executive president?
People do not want to vote for slaves.

Igbo means slave.

FisifunKododada:


Wow - u eboes can lie

Wow, anti-Igboists can lie. Google Ogbaland, Rivers State before allowing your shameless hatred for anything Igbo get the better of you!

Olu means Neck or voice or work depending on the dialect. in Igbo language. Umi means marrow or tube or relaxation, rest or recreation depending on the dialect..
Olukumi would mean neck is stronger than marrow or tube.It can also mean voice of marrow or voice of tube. It can also mean work is better than relaxation. Igbo names are descriptive.

Olukumi for me is more of Igala than Yoruba, their language sound more deviant Igala language.
Though their language is very difficult for an average Igala man to understand and they very closer to Igala than Yoruba.
But in Olukumi town like Ugbodu and Okunzu they are bilingual speaking olukumi language and Igbo language fluently. The 'Olukumi' as a word, I believe is an Igala word which means 'my friend'
Secondly there is no sign of Yoruba culture in their land, their names is purely Igbo, their culture is purely Igbo.
I remember visited the town Ugbodu taken a bike from Issele uku, en route Onisha uku down to Ugbodu.
I recall visiting the Paramount ruler of Ugbodu town the Odogwu of Ugbodu.
In 'Olukumi' father is refer as Bami, mother is refer to as Yami.
If I say 'mu pure water wa' means 'bring pure water come'
'Bu iji rumi' cut firewood for me
'maa ko iji ru' you people should park firewood

I just reminded you to be who you claim to be..thanks

did u read the person that started this thread and the nonsense he spew ojukwu ur people scream rat poison Awolowo anyhow is he not dead also. Don’t give what u can’t handle