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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 11:28pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:


The Bini are not expanding into Yoruba territories. They know the Yorubas have better organized leadership and intelligentsia than Ndiigbo do. Their main target is Western Igbo because they sense leadership vacuum and negligence in Igboland.

The Yorubas also had the advantage of centralized origin story of Odua to fall back on . We don't have such.

Many of us Igbo nationalists knew of Benue Igbos, Isobos(Cross River) Igbos and even few villages in Kogi before IPOB was born. So I don't see how IPOB can take credit for that. What IPOB and MNK has tried to do was suppress Igbo ethnic consciousness why claiming that all ethnic groups in Eastern region are imaginary ethnic group he called "Biafra" that existed before Nigeria.
MNK once even said that he is not Igbo, that he is Biafran. Personally he is not different from Zik who was engrossed with Nigeria identity while Awo and Saraduna worked hard to strengthen Yoruba and Northern identity. For while MNK and IPOB are busy brainwashing Igbo youths to accept a non existing brotherhood with these minorities, the minorities leaders are working aggressively to strengthen their own tribal identities by expanding into Igbo territories while making it obvious that they would not accept the Biafran identity IPOB and MNN are brainwashing Igbo youths with.

I see no difference between MNK and Zik and IPOB and NCNC.
While AG was strictly a Yoruba party and embraced it happily. NCNC was interested in wearing the toga of pan Nigerian even when the North and West saw them as Igbo party.
IPOB is the new NCNC, MNK is the new Zik, Minorities are our new Yoruba/North.

Funny how history repeats itself if not unchecked.
I respectively disagree with you that many people knew the existence of Igbos in Benue and Cross-River... I am sure 95% did not know...except those deep into Igbo history or border communities. Let us be truthful and frank...

I understand your anger, however, I get frustrated on these points too..But you must understand that MNKs move is also strategic.

I disagree with you that Yorubas ae not fighting... Follow the Facebook group,"! History Village, pre colonial and Post Colonial Nigeria. Yorubas are fighting on two fronts... The Bini on the west and Igala to the North... The Yorubas are fighting back so hard that they are also fighting for Itshekiri because the Bini people are almost taking the soul of the Itshekiris.

Do not think for once that you are the only victim... Yorubas on the other hand might not need to fight much because they have so many sea advantage on many fronts and those grounds are where the Binis are gaining ground...

The Igbos on the East and border with Cross-Rivers and Akwa Ibom on the eastern side have a stronghold on Igbo identity and keeping the area intact for two reasons..
They were warlike, you cannot battle for the heart of Arochukwu, Ohafia, Abiriba, Edda.. these were feared people in the past and still hold on to that Igbo identity with an iron fist despite obvious influences and akwa or cross river mixing over time... You dare not talk about their Igboneess.. Even Arochukwu is expanding well into cross Rivers... The other group is Izzi/Ezza - I do not need to expatiate on their fighting ability.

Another reason is that these areas are not as strategic geographically as Ndoki for example, although still very very important resource and history-wise.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 11:29pm On Mar 12, 2021
BKayy:

That is why we need a Beacon (A state or city that signifies progress). Onitsha is doing wonders but have is not up to her potential in dragging the Binis in.
We need to maintain port Harcourt and revive Aba. Port Harcourt is already doing her work perfectly what remains is a follow up Beacon that will guide the Ijaws through. Something like Aba and more importantly something in that Ndoki clan

Aba is actually the city to watch out for this decade. Big things are happening behind the scenes that many people do not know. But when it happens, people will be shocked.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:36pm On Mar 12, 2021
horsepower102:


Aba is actually the city to watch out for this decade. Big things are happening behind the scenes that many people do not know. But when it happens, people will be shocked.
I was there recently and I was impressed with the plans.
Aba should continue with her progress. The next Beacon should be Obigbo. I admire their courage. They stood the test of time. Something Ika couldn't do. They are a vital ground for the final link up

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:40pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

I respectively disagree with you that many people knew the existence of Igbos in Benue and Cross-River... I am sure 95% did not know...except those deep into Igbo history or border communities. Let us be truthful and frank...

I understand your anger, however, I get frustrated on these points too..But you must understand that MNKs move is also strategic.

I disagree with you that Yorubas ae not fighting... Follow the Facebook group,"! History Village, pre colonial and Post Colonial Nigeria. Yorubas are fighting on two fronts... The Bini on the west and Igala to the North... The Yorubas are fighting back so hard that they are also fighting for Itshekiri because the Bini people are almost taking the soul of the Itshekiris.

Do not think for once that you are the only victim... Yorubas on the other hand might not need to fight much because they have so many sea advantage on many fronts and those grounds are where the Binis are gaining ground...

The Igbos on the East and border with Cross-Rivers and Akwa Ibom on the eastern side have a stronghold on Igbo identity and keeping the area intact for two reasons..
They were warlike, you cannot battle for the heart of Arochukwu, Ohafia, Abiriba, Edda.. these were feared people in the past and still hold on to that Igbo identity with an iron fist despite obvious influences and akwa or cross river mixing over time... You dare not talk about their Igboneess.. Even Arochukwu is expanding well into cross Rivers... The other group is Izzi/Ezza - I do not need to expatiate on their fighting ability.

Another reason is that these areas are not as strategic geographically as Ndoki for example, although still very very important resource and history-wise.
The only problem Ndoki have is financial and lack of exposure to other Igbo. As vital as they are we were treating them with kids glove. Thank God for this generation. We must get most of the things right.
BTW, it's been long since I've seen ofoigbo here

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 11:53pm On Mar 12, 2021
BKayy:

The only problem Ndoki have is financial and lack of exposure to other Igbo. As vital as they are we were treating them with kids glove. Thank God for this generation. We must get most of the things right.
BTW, it's been long since I've seen ofoigbo here
See this screenshot from the Ndoki group a while ago, there are numerous Ijaws on the group writing propaganda every day... I was kinda shocked at the number of propaganda the Ijaw elements write everyday..... It was shocking to say the least. Until then, I did not understand the depth of the battle. In this screenshot, you could see some people fiercely fighting the Ijaw posters.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 11:55pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

See this screenshot from the Ndoki group a while ago, there are numerous Ijaws on the group writing propaganda every day... I was kinda shocked at the number of propaganda the Ijaw elements write everyday..... It was shocking to say the least. Until then, I did not understand the depth of the battle. In this screenshot, you could see some people fiercely fighting the Ijaw posters.

This is what OP has been telling us for years since he is a part of many facebook groups and have been observing everything going on.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 12:01am On Mar 13, 2021
Ekealterego:

See this screenshot from the Ndoki group a while ago, there are numerous Ijaws on the group writing propaganda every day... I was kinda shocked at the number of propaganda the Ijaw elements write everyday..... It was shocking to say the least. Until then, I did not understand the depth of the battle. In this screenshot, you could see some people fiercely fighting the Ijaw posters.
Wow. It is good to see Ndoki people holding their ground against the hyenas unlike in Nsukka page where some of them will support the movement when issues like this are raised.
Now on the brighter side, since Ijaw is fixated on Ndoki, they wouldn't mind if we link some of their coastal towns to Ndoki would they? grin

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by melodyogonna(m): 12:06am On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:


Continue eating minorities faeces and drinking their urine while they aggressively make incursions into Igboland.
I'm not eating anything my friend, you should mind how you refer to people.

I'm sure you won't still do anything to change anything you're complaining about apart from cussing on Nairaland here.

Nnamdi Kanu has said this repeatedly as the problem with Africa, not that I didn't know about it before but it's usually makes more sense to some people if it comes from a respected figure. He said the problem with blacks in Africa is that we only know how to cuss, complain, shout, then do nothing. You shout, you fuse, you complain, you type long epistles online yet you do nothing, waiting for imaginary saviours to help you run the matter.

Everyone has a divergent opinion about how things should be done, especially we Igbos. The good thing is that the road is too wide for any group to block the other. You should form your own group and go about things the way you think is the best.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 12:09am On Mar 13, 2021
BKayy:

Wow. It is good to see Ndoki people holding their ground against the hyenas unlike in Nsukka page where some of them will support the movement when issues like this are raised.
Now on the brighter side, since Ijaw is fixated on Ndoki, they wouldn't mind when we link some of their coastal towns to Ndoki would they? grin

The best way that we Igbos that are not are not in the forefront of this battle is to support Ndoki people with economic development.

We also need to put our house order and pursue serious development. Aku ruo uno.

For Example Asaba (including all of Enuani) people are proud of their Igboness for many reasons but one of the reasons is that Igbos from all over Igboland adopted that city and invested heavily there. We need to do the same with Obigbo so that we can strengthen the resolve of Ndoki people.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 12:29am On Mar 13, 2021
BKayy:

Wow. It is good to see Ndoki people holding their ground against the hyenas unlike in Nsukka page where some of them will support the movement when issues like this are raised.
Now on the brighter side, since Ijaw is fixated on Ndoki, they wouldn't mind if we link some of their coastal towns to Ndoki would they? grin
I mus5t say that they cannot fight this battle alone.. Check all their sub-communities in smaller Ndoki groups; you will find at least 20 Ijaw people writing propaganda and monitoring the happenings within the group. If I were them, I would start believing too with how proficient the elements within the groups are.
Their strategy is to first create that sense of ethnic nationhood and distinctiveness away from the larger Igbo group then link them to Ijaw or at least plant the seed of identity crisis. They are using the same strategy for the Egbema people in Imo... It is hard for people like Obigbo and Egbema in River state to be taken over because of their kins on the other side of the mainland Igbo states. However, the time to act is now... A distinct group with strong political might and resources to counter the IYC encroachment must be established as soon as possible.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Easternmind(m): 12:42am On Mar 13, 2021
Ekealterego:

See this screenshot from the Ndoki group a while ago, there are numerous Ijaws on the group writing propaganda every day... I was kinda shocked at the number of propaganda the Ijaw elements write everyday..... It was shocking to say the least. Until then, I did not understand the depth of the battle. In this screenshot, you could see some people fiercely fighting the Ijaw posters.
O si no gini? "Anadokiari" I am looking for my brother,lolz,when did you start looking for your brother? How come you don't recognize your brother,smh,Sense ndi a efuola,This ijaw guys writing those gibberish,are desperate to peddle foolishness and twist history for selfish gains,they didn't even come up with something smart or sensible.
Can't the Ijaw just hold on to bayelsa or to what they have and grow from there,it will benefit them a lot than this.
We need to develop our cities In south east this time around,it will do a lot work,The growth of Aba would be a shock,and of great importance.first let us get people like ndoki,Enuani,etc to interact with the igbos on the east more,they usually get brain washed from some minorites in the Niger delta.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Malawian(m): 1:03am On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:



Ndoki is so vital to future Igbo country that any serious Igbo must be deeply concerned by any plans to introduce identity crisis there.

You spoke of Czech republic and their access to the ocean through river Danube. Ndiigbo has that option through Ndoki. IMO river opens into the Atlantic through Ndoki. IMO river has its source and tributaries all from waters in Igboland which means we fully control the upstream and volume of the river.
This is unlike River Niger which is going to shrink in volume once Niger Republic are done with their Dam project. And worst still, too far from the sea coast and so will cost a lot to dredge unlike the IMO River at Ndoki which is just few Miles away from the Atlantic.

The Ijaws know this. That's why they are battling hard to at least introduce Identity crises and Igbophobia in those areas and make things difficult for us in the future.

I'm angry with MNK and IPOB because they like to curse Zik for his role in promotion of one Nigeria project while leaving Igboland vulnerable to other two big ethnic groups, while IPOB are doing same thing to Igboland with their useless multiethnic Biafra with these aggressive expansionist minorities.
And like Zik left Ndiigbo disadvantaged against the other two, so will IPOB with this senseless multi ethnic Biafra leave future Igbo generation shortchanged.
Honestly, are Ijaw, Igala, Bini such formidable tribes that should we wage war on them, they will not capitulate under a few days? I really don't see the fuss in all these fear mongering. We are very capable and within our own capacity to always take back any Igbo tribe stolen, and this includes the likes of Ika and Ukwuani.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by afube: 2:02am On Mar 13, 2021
Ekealterego:

I respectively disagree with you that many people knew the existence of Igbos in Benue and Cross-River... I am sure 95% did not know...except those deep into Igbo history or border communities. Let us be truthful and frank...

I understand your anger, however, I get frustrated on these points too..But you must understand that MNKs move is also strategic.

I disagree with you that Yorubas ae not fighting... Follow the Facebook group,"! History Village, pre colonial and Post Colonial Nigeria. Yorubas are fighting on two fronts... The Bini on the west and Igala to the North... The Yorubas are fighting back so hard that they are also fighting for Itshekiri because the Bini people are almost taking the soul of the Itshekiris.

Do not think for once that you are the only victim... Yorubas on the other hand might not need to fight much because they have so many sea advantage on many fronts and those grounds are where the Binis are gaining ground...

The Igbos on the East and border with Cross-Rivers and Akwa Ibom on the eastern side have a stronghold on Igbo identity and keeping the area intact for two reasons..
They were warlike, you cannot battle for the heart of Arochukwu, Ohafia, Abiriba, Edda.. these were feared people in the past and still hold on to that Igbo identity with an iron fist despite obvious influences and akwa or cross river mixing over time... You dare not talk about their Igboneess.. Even Arochukwu is expanding well into cross Rivers... The other group is Izzi/Ezza - I do not need to expatiate on their fighting ability.

Another reason is that these areas are not as strategic geographically as Ndoki for example, although still very very important resource and history-wise.








MNK is not the intellectual lightweight you make him out to be nor is he strategically naive.............MNK is pushing the independence of Ndigbo from the suffocating interference of a corrupt nigerian nation. The biafra he is pursuing did not drop from the sky last night,Biafra came quite close to becoming a recognised independent nation and it had borders,for context he had to start from somewhere and that somewhere includes eastern minorities.

MNK is by and large an agent of hope for the Igbo nation, he commands the respect of a greater proportion of Igbo youth and that counts for something,quit bitching about the guy,

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by afube: 2:07am On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:


When our director is licking their anus, what do you expect?
Nature abhors vacuum. We left those border Igbo speaking communities without building cultural garrisons there by ensuring potent presence of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo there through community projects and interventions, the minorities who are looking to swell their own numbers are trying their own luck. Can you blame them? Blame lack of political and strategic thinking/leadership in Igboland.

Can Ohaneze Ndiigbo president name up to 3 communities in Ndokiland?





Look igboid !! MNK is not the intellectual lightweight you make him out to be nor is he strategically naive.............MNK is pushing the independence of Ndigbo from the suffocating interference of a corrupt nigerian nation. The biafra he is pursuing did not drop from the sky last night,Biafra came quite close to becoming a recognised independent nation and it had borders,for context he had to start from somewhere and that somewhere includes eastern minorities.

MNK is by and large an agent of hope for the Igbo nation, he commands the respect of a greater proportion of Igbo youth and that counts for something,quit bitching about the guy,

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by afube: 2:14am On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:


Yes! There is none yet. But an Igala group known as "Ane Igala" has been making visits to local kings in Northern Igbo communities in Northern Enugu(Nsukka area) and Northern Anambra( Omabala area) claiming to be rekindling ancestral Igala relationship with them.

This is how it normally starts. We should be snuffing these things out in their bud and not wait for them to grow.

There should be active Ohaneze Ndiigbo presence in these border Igbo communities to ensure these aggressive expansionist minorities don't induce identity crisis in those places.

I had already highlighted how Ohaneze Ndiigbo can make their presence known in those communities.
No child should grow up in those communities with any shred of doubt about their Igbo identity.






so go and meet ohaneze, its their job to protect and project igbo interests,that is not the mandate of IPOB.

Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 2:36am On Mar 13, 2021
afube:









MNK is not the intellectual lightweight you make him out to be nor is he strategically naive.............MNK is pushing the independence of Ndigbo from the suffocating interference of a corrupt nigerian nation. The biafra he is pursuing did not drop from the sky last night,Biafra came quite close to becoming a recognised independent nation and it had borders,for context he had to start from somewhere and that somewhere includes eastern minorities.

MNK is by and large an agent of hope for the Igbo nation, he commands the respect of a greater proportion of Igbo youth and that counts for something,quit bitching about the guy,

Brother, you are quoting the wrong person, I am not badmouthing MNK, rather, I have extolled his virtue... Although, I strongly believe in a homogenous, or at most, a Biafra with the Akwa-cross.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 3:09am On Mar 13, 2021
BKayy:

Wow. It is good to see Ndoki people holding their ground against the hyenas unlike in Nsukka page where some of them will support the movement when issues like this are raised.
Now on the brighter side, since Ijaw is fixated on Ndoki, they wouldn't mind if we link some of their coastal towns to Ndoki would they? grin



Which Nsukka page is that?
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 3:59am On Mar 13, 2021
Malawian:

Honestly, are Ijaw, Igala, Bini such formidable tribes that should we wage war on them, they will not capitulate under a few days? I really don't see the fuss in all these fear mongering. We are very capable and within our own capacity to always take back any Igbo tribe stolen, and this includes the likes of Ika and Ukwuani.
I can't even sacrifice my goat for Ika and whatever you call them. They add nothing to the greater Igbo race but confusion. Enuani yes but ika NO

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Shiver99: 5:16am On Mar 13, 2021
You guys have solid points.

But you have to understand that the same way IPOB is brainqashing Igbos into a pan-biafran mindset is the same way it's brainwashing minorities.

Biafran renaissance is deeply Igbo-centric, no matter how much MNK protests. So it's very hard to fall in line with the Biafran vision without falling in line with some sort of Igbo conciousness. Which is why many Igbophobic minorities abhor it.

I remember some social media posts where ESN
were defending lower benue. In the comments some lower benue minorities were hailing them and pointing out their ancestry/similarities with Igbos or outright just calling themselves Igbos.

Even Asari the riverine had to emphasize his extensive Igbo heritage when championing Biafra.

As the biafran agenda brings more wins, such as ESN staving off bandits/army or more global recognition; You'll see more and more people shamelessly attaching to an Igbo origin while 'Igboids' will try to carry it on their head like their identity was never in question.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by owerrezeorba(m): 6:38am On Mar 13, 2021
Wow. It is good to see Ndoki people holding their ground against the hyenas unlike in Nsukka page where some of them will support the movement when issues like this are raised.
Now on the brighter side, since Ijaw is fixated on Ndoki, they wouldn't mind if we link some of their coastal towns to Ndoki would they? ;


Which Nsukka page is that!!!??
Don't think so perhaps it might be fake
There's no such thing in my Nsukka

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Armaggedon: 8:10am On Mar 13, 2021
Pazienza aka igboid aka goatgoat23 you are at worst being hysterical and at best
giving the ijaws too much credit. And even more stupid for taking on Ipob. Everyone knows Ijaws are aggressive and expansionists, not just to Igbos. They claim coastal Akwa ibom, Rivers, fight in Delta with itshekiri and urhobo and also fight in gelegele edo and ondo.

They have always had that mindset, only that the civil war defeat of Igbos fulfilled their fantasies, encouraged and made them bolder in their expansionist quest. Gowon created Rivers state in the minorities' own terms. Any town they pointed, it joined their new state and any one they renamed, FG would rebaptize. That's how Obigbo became Oyigbo, its Ogoni name and PH towns' names became rumu from Umu. Ogonization and ijawnisation became policies after the civil war. That's the prize of loosing the war! It can only be reversed if we get Biafra!

But you don't see it that way. you believe it can be reversed by throwing banters and hysterically writing epistles. You are even hating on Igbo communities who are a victim of these post civil war policies. It sounds like you're beginning to hate ndoki too. You claim IPOB is not doing well, Who recognized and joined the Igbankes into Biafra struggle? who always denounces Oyigbo and always uphold Obigbo as the name? Who is the First major figure to reinstate Igwuocha as the name of PH? He did it while you're busy saying that Ikwerres should be excised from being Igbo, how dumb can a so called Igbo nationalist be!
who joined Igbos from Benue into Biafra struggle? who always denounces politics of Identity in Rivers state and fired up Igbo nationalism among them? That's Nnamdi KANU

He is the greatest Igbo nationalist in recorded history. You are too emotional and not mature enough to discuss such delicate issues talk more working on them. You are only good for doing "nwuye di" with Ijaws and Igbophobic Igbos of the so-called SS. Your type is dangerous for Igbo nationalism.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 8:16am On Mar 13, 2021
goatgoat093:

That's the more reason we need to be very ruthless against these useless minorities, the soft belly aching and church mind has got to stop NOW, we are surrounded by very vicious and desperate "neighbors" itching to nibble at every piece of our territorial integrity by re-defining our history with their revisionisms...check almost all social media platforms especially Facebook, you will notice that these elements (mostly Ijaws and Benins) congregate in their sociocultural groups, at least 80% of their conversations are recanted on deeply worrying Igbo-phobic rhetorics and topics... the Benin's have not only stopped short of trying to forcefully "Beninize" the Igbos in Anioma including the vast majority like the Enuani's who insist they are undiluted Igbos, they have also expanded their madness to Onitsha, Oguta and Enugu-Ezike right on our soil! now it's the useless Ijaw irritants we're not dealing with... it's about time we start treating and putting these leeches in their rightful place... as the minorities that they are.



Exactly my sentiments.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:52am On Mar 13, 2021
Malawian:

Honestly, are Ijaw, Igala, Bini such formidable tribes that should we wage war on them, they will not capitulate under a few days? I really don't see the fuss in all these fear mongering. We are very capable and within our own capacity to always take back any Igbo tribe stolen, and this includes the likes of Ika and Ukwuani.

This is an ideological war not a physical war.
You can't invade and force Ukwuani and Ika people into your Biafra as things stand because they are deep in identity crises and would resist.
It would attract bad international publicity and make you exactly the same thing you accuse Nigerians of being.

You will have to get Biafra through peaceful means and you will not have communities where identity crises is present. Your director is shouting referendum, do you know what the result of referendum will be in Ika and Ukwuani as things stand? cheesy You will lose. No body stole Ukwuani or Ika. They simply became Igbophobic, encouraged by their minority neighbors, the same minorities your director is coopting into his utopian multiethnic Biafra.

Ndoki is salvageable but we have to move quick and drop the delusion of multiethnic Biafra. It is an ideological war, and has to be fought so.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 9:03am On Mar 13, 2021
Armaggedon:
Pazienza aka igboid aka goatgoat23 you are at worst being hysterical and at best
giving the ijaws too much credit. And even more stupid for taking on Ipob. Everyone knows Ijaws are aggressive and expansionists, not just to Igbos. They claim coastal Akwa ibom, Rivers, fight in Delta with itshekiri and urhobo and also fight in gelegele edo and ondo.

They have always had that mindset, only that the civil war defeat of Igbos fulfilled their fantasies, encouraged and made them bolder in their expansionist quest. Gowon created Rivers state in the minorities' own terms. Any town they pointed, it joined their new state and any one they renamed, FG would rebaptize. That's how Obigbo became Oyigbo, its Ogoni name and PH towns' names became rumu from Umu. Ogonization and ijawnisation became policies after the civil war. That's the prize of loosing the war! It can only be reversed if we get Biafra!

But you don't see it that way. you believe it can be reversed by throwing banters and hysterically writing epistles. You are even hating on Igbo communities who are a victim of these post civil war policies. It sounds like you're beginning to hate ndoki too. You claim IPOB is not doing well, Who recognized and joined the Igbankes into Biafra struggle? who always denounces Oyigbo and always uphold Obigbo as the name? Who is the First major figure to reinstate Igwuocha as the name of PH? He did it while you're busy saying that Ikwerres should be excised from being Igbo, how dumb can a so called Igbo nationalist be!
who joined Igbos from Benue into Biafra struggle? who always denounces politics of Identity in Rivers state and fired up Igbo nationalism among them? That's Nnamdi KANU

He is the greatest Igbo nationalist in recorded history. You are too emotional and not mature enough to discuss such delicate issues talk more working on them. You are only good for doing "nwuye di" with Ijaws and Igbophobic Igbos of the so-called SS. Your type is dangerous for Igbo nationalism.


You will not be able to reverse the Ogonization and Ijawnization policy if you are on your feet begging them to join your Biafra.

The way you are going. You will give away many concessions to the minorities to have them in Biafra that would make it impossible for Ndiigbo to reverse those policies.

What's the point of having Ikwerre in Biafra? Can you go to any Rumu village and do your rallies?
You know what Ikwerre Youths did the last time Ohaneze Ndiigbo tried to host Igbo day in PH? They raised so much dust that the governor of Rivers and the owner of the venue the events were scheduled to hold had to tell Ohaneze to look for a new city to hold the event.

Yes! Ikwerre is like a rotten tomato you have to pick and throw away lest it cause the rest of the good tomatoes to decay. Ikwerre is not Igbo and they are more Igbophobic than Ijaws. Unlike you lots that like living in fantasy, I live in reality. Ikwerre is gone!

I have never hated Ndoki. I'm only raising alarm so that we can nip things in their bud over there.

So you lots are well aware of these minorities aggressive expansionist agendas towards Igboland, you know they know that being part of Biafra will make their expansionist drive difficult, so they vehemently reject Biafra while working secretly to annex parts of Igboland. This make these groups our existential Enemies, yet you keep bringing out ridiculous maps with them in it?
What exactly are you lots hoping to achieve with the delusion of multiethnic Biafra? Who bewitched you?

We will not have another Zik(MNK) and NCNC (IPOB) in this era. Ndiigbo will not allow it.
Until IPOB become fully proud of being an Igbo only organization, chasing away all the non Igbo moles they have in their ranks. Until MNK drop the folly of multiethnic Biafra and IPOB and embrace pan Igboism and work towards it. I will continue to point out your flaws and bash you lots if need be.
Affliction must not arise a second time.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 9:23am On Mar 13, 2021
afube:






Look igboid !! MNK is not the intellectual lightweight you make him out to be nor is he strategically naive.............MNK is pushing the independence of Ndigbo from the suffocating interference of a corrupt nigerian nation. The biafra he is pursuing did not drop from the sky last night,Biafra came quite close to becoming a recognised independent nation and it had borders,for context he had to start from somewhere and that somewhere includes eastern minorities.

MNK is by and large an agent of hope for the Igbo nation, he commands the respect of a greater proportion of Igbo youth and that counts for something,quit bitching about the guy,

Zik was not an intellectual lightweight when he was pushing for pan Nigerianism and refused to embrace Igboism.
MNK and IPOB don't like the idea of being just Igbo, just like Zik. They want to pretend their organization is multiethnic. Yet Ndiigbo only would be the ones to bear the consequences of the actions of IPOB just as we bore those of NCNC.

MNK has never worked for any pan Igboism agenda. He is more engrossed in sucking minorities balls.
This was how he delusionally said PH (land of Igbophobic Ikwerres) and no longer Enugu, is now the capital of his delusional multiethnic Biafra, all in attempt to please the minorities.


Limit your Biafra to Igbo land. Work to prevent identity crises being instigated by aggressive expansionist minorities in Igbo border communities. Liase with Ohaneze to achieve this.
Drop the deception of IPOB being multiethnic organization. No minority accept your IPOB and Biafra , few hungry people from those minorities joining your IPOB doesn't mean the minorities are with you. Go to Rumu village, Uyo, Yenegoa, Warrior, etc and shout Biafra and see what the locals think.
Stop the self delusion already. Embrace the Igbo in you.
The money IPOB wasted in trying to woo the likes of Asari Dokubo, Anniko Briggs, etc into your useless multiethnic Biafra that failed woefully and left Ndiigbo with eggs on our faces would have gone a long way, in establishing community projects in Obiigbo in liaison with ADF or Ohaneze, and organizing parleys with the local Ezes and grassroot youths to strengthen their pan Igbo disposition.
Instead you wasted it bribing Asari to accept he is Biafra. Ifele ana emedikwa unu?

MNK escaped from Nigerian Military and police when they invaded his home in Umuahia through Ndoki water ways I learnt. You think if this water ways passed through Igbophobic Ikwerre, Ika or Ukwuani territories that MNK would would have escaped?

Unu ga arapu uno unu na agba oku na-achu oke.

Multi ethnic Biafra gbakwa oku ebe ahu. Ndi eze onyeagwanam. Ndi eriri eri.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Armaggedon: 9:45am On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:


You will not be able to reverse the Ogonization and Ijawnization policy if you are on your feet begging them to join your Biafra.

The way you are going. You will give away many concessions to the minorities to have them in Biafra that would make it impossible for Ndiigbo to reverse those policies.

What's the point of having Ikwerre in Biafra? Can you go to any Rumu village and do your rallies?
You know what Ikwerre Youths did the last time Ohaneze Ndiigbo tried to host Igbo day in PH? They raised so much dust that the governor of Rivers and the owner of the venue the events were scheduled to hold had to tell Ohaneze to look for a new city to hold the event.

Yes! Ikwerre is like a rotten tomato you have to pick and throw away lest it cause the rest of the good tomatoes to decay. Ikwerre is not Igbo and they are more Igbophobic than Ijaws. Unlike you lots that like living in fantasy, I live in reality. Ikwerre is gone!

I have never hated Ndoki. I'm only raising alarm so that we can nip things in their bud over there.

So you lots are well aware of these minorities aggressive expansionist agendas towards Igboland, you know they know that being part of Biafra will make their expansionist drive difficult, so they vehemently reject Biafra while working secretly to annex parts of Igboland. This make these groups our existential Enemies, yet you keep bringing out ridiculous maps with them in it?
What exactly are you lots hoping to achieve with the delusion of multiethnic Biafra? Who bewitched you?
You are only good for doing " nwunye di" . If your likes are Igbo leaders then Igbos are finished. Minorities wouldn't even need to fight you. All they'll need is to send their so called delegates to more Igbo communities, stare up your emotions and you'll end up branding the Igbo communities rotten tomatoes. Efulefu nationalist!

You lack even common sense, that's why arguing with you can be exasperating. Common sense should tell anybody who is not dense that identity crisis was implanted by redrawing of political boundaries and subsequent change of focus in Identity by the new Igbophobic establishment and it can only be solve with same. If you were not foolish and truly want to liberate Igbos, then why Igbo language is not made compulsory In most of Rivers, Why History is not taught and why Rivers state govt once attempted to supplant Igbo language with Ibani in bonny and Opobo, who killed Obi wali? etc are questions that should bother you not your silly, senseless and endless rants.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 9:58am On Mar 13, 2021
Armaggedon:
You are only good for doing " nwunye di" . If your likes are Igbo leaders then Igbos are finished. Minorities wouldn't even need to fight you. All they'll need is to send their so called delegates to more Igbo communities, stare up your emotions and you'll end up branding the Igbo communities rotten tomatoes. Efulefu nationalist!

You lack even common sense, that's why arguing with you can be exasperating. Common sense should tell anybody who is not dense that identity crisis was implanted by redrawing of political boundaries and subsequent change of focus in Identity by the new Igbophobic establishment and it can only be solve with same. If you were not foolish and truly want to liberate Igbos, then why Igbo language is not made compulsory In most of Rivers, Why History is not taught and why Rivers state govt once attempted to supplant Igbo language with Ibani in bonny and Opobo, who killed Obi wali? etc are questions that should bother you not your silly, senseless and endless rants.

So how exactly will you your senseless multiethnic Biafra address all these injustice against Ndiigbo?

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 10:11am On Mar 13, 2021
Armaggedon:
Pazienza aka igboid aka goatgoat23 you are at worst being hysterical and at best
giving the ijaws too much credit. And even more stupid for taking on Ipob. Everyone knows Ijaws are aggressive and expansionists, not just to Igbos. They claim coastal Akwa ibom, Rivers, fight in Delta with itshekiri and urhobo and also fight in gelegele edo and ondo.

They have always had that mindset, only that the civil war defeat of Igbos fulfilled their fantasies, encouraged and made them bolder in their expansionist quest. Gowon created Rivers state in the minorities' own terms. Any town they pointed, it joined their new state and any one they renamed, FG would rebaptize. That's how Obigbo became Oyigbo, its Ogoni name and PH towns' names became rumu from Umu. Ogonization and ijawnisation became policies after the civil war. That's the prize of loosing the war! It can only be reversed if we get Biafra!

But you don't see it that way. you believe it can be reversed by throwing banters and hysterically writing epistles. You are even hating on Igbo communities who are a victim of these post civil war policies. It sounds like you're beginning to hate ndoki too. You claim IPOB is not doing well, Who recognized and joined the Igbankes into Biafra struggle? who always denounces Oyigbo and always uphold Obigbo as the name? Who is the First major figure to reinstate Igwuocha as the name of PH? He did it while you're busy saying that Ikwerres should be excised from being Igbo, how dumb can a so called Igbo nationalist be!
who joined Igbos from Benue into Biafra struggle? who always denounces politics of Identity in Rivers state and fired up Igbo nationalism among them? That's Nnamdi KANU

He is the greatest Igbo nationalist in recorded history. You are too emotional and not mature enough to discuss such delicate issues talk more working on them. You are only good for doing "nwuye di" with Ijaws and Igbophobic Igbos of the so-called SS. Your type is dangerous for Igbo nationalism.




Nwunye di

Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 1:19pm On Mar 13, 2021
Igboid:


Zik was not an intellectual lightweight when he was pushing for pan Nigerianism and refused to embrace Igboism.
MNK and IPOB don't like the idea of being just Igbo, just like Zik. They want to pretend their organization is multiethnic. Yet Ndiigbo only would be the ones to bear the consequences of the actions of IPOB just as we bore those of NCNC.

MNK has never worked for any pan Igboism agenda. He is more engrossed in sucking minorities balls.
This was how he delusionally said PH (land of Igbophobic Ikwerres) and no longer Enugu, is now the capital of his delusional multiethnic Biafra, all in attempt to please the minorities.


Limit your Biafra to Igbo land. Work to prevent identity crises being instigated by aggressive expansionist minorities in Igbo border communities. Liase with Ohaneze to achieve this.
Drop the deception of IPOB being multiethnic organization. No minority accept your IPOB and Biafra , few hungry people from those minorities joining your IPOB doesn't mean the minorities are with you. Go to Rumu village, Uyo, Yenegoa, Warrior, etc and shout Biafra and see what the locals think.
Stop the self delusion already. Embrace the Igbo in you.
The money IPOB wasted in trying to woo the likes of Asari Dokubo, Anniko Briggs, etc into your useless multiethnic Biafra that failed woefully and left Ndiigbo with eggs on our faces would have gone a long way, in establishing community projects in Obiigbo in liaison with ADF or Ohaneze, and organizing parleys with the local Ezes and grassroot youths to strengthen their pan Igbo disposition.
Instead you wasted it bribing Asari to accept he is Biafra. Ifele ana emedikwa unu?

MNK escaped from Nigerian Military and police when they invaded his home in Umuahia through Ndoki water ways I learnt. You think if this water ways passed through Igbophobic Ikwerre, Ika or Ukwuani territories that MNK would would have escaped?

Unu ga arapu uno unu na agba oku na-achu oke.

Multi ethnic Biafra gbakwa oku ebe ahu. Ndi eze onyeagwanam. Ndi eriri eri.

There is some sense in what you are saying, but you also need to calmly discuss your reasons and approach. It is good that you substantiated your view with examples..

However, believe me, there is a sense of pan-Igboism now more than ever. There are a lot of Igbo groups on Facebook with a membership of up to 200-220k people. Although, there have been plans to hijack these groups from northern elements and other minorities (I don't really understand their motivation). One was hijacked already, a group with 220k people, I think they have been closed.

The one of particular interest is that of "Igbo history", 3000 BC and beyond.... These groups would have been unimaginable pre-IPOB or MNK... (Elements are also trying hard to invade the group too).
You see this group was created by an Ikwerre lady and still remains one of the most informative, intellectual and formidable groups... You could see representatives and people from these Igbos at the periphery who are trying hard to change the narrative.

I had a case where someone from Opobo was crying that they or their posts acknowledging his Igboness was not approved....I never thought even people from some Igbophobic Igbo clans could be so assertive and take offence when someone tries to deny their Igboness... These groups are growing...

I can tell you this was not so pre-MNK or pre-IPOB.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Afam4eva(m): 1:28pm On Mar 13, 2021
I have to say that the work some of us have put in over the years are beginning to work out. I've been a member of that same NDOKI page on facebook and the first time i went there, almost every comment i came across were denying their Igboness and regarded themselves as people who migrated from Ijawland but today you'll get eaten alive if you post any Ijaw nonsense on that page. It's obvious things are looking up.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by theTranslator: 1:56pm On Mar 13, 2021
Self determination! grin
Leave them alone! cheesy
Oil and coast is important o shocked

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